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A66150 A defence of the exposition of the doctrine of the Church of England against the exceptions of Monsieur de Meaux, late Bishop of Condom, and his vindicator : the contents are in the next leaf. Wake, William, 1657-1737. 1686 (1686) Wing W236; ESTC R524 126,770 228

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unbaptise_v be_v a_o truth_n which_o never_o any_o one_o before_o calvin_n dare_v open_o call_v in_o question_n it_o be_v so_o firm_o root_v in_o the_o mind_n of_o all_o the_o faithful_a this_o be_v so_o notorious_o false_a that_o not_o only_o the_o most_o learned_a of_o their_o own_o 3._o own_o first_o we_o have_v cassander_n libr._n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la infant_n p._n 762._o and_o he_o there_o cite_v of_o his_o side_n jo._n gerson_n serm._n in_o nat._n b._n mariae_fw-la par_fw-fr 3._o preach_v before_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n and_o all_o the_o father_n there_o assemble_v p._n 769._o gabriel_n biel_n in_o 4._o do_v 4._o q._n 2._o cajetan_n in_o 3._o p._n d._n th._n q._n 68_o art_n 1_o 2_o 3._o tilmannus_n segebergensis_n de_fw-fr 7_o sacram._n c._n 1._o art_n 3._o church_n as_o i_o prove_v before_o but_o the_o very_a nicetam_fw-la very_a grot._fw-la via_fw-la ad_fw-la pacem_fw-la p._n 290._o in_o art_n
peccatum_fw-la institutum_fw-la non_fw-la utique_fw-la propter_fw-la remedium_fw-la sed_fw-la ad_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la et_fw-fr d._n 26._o l._n a._n cum_fw-la alia_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la post_fw-la peccatum_fw-la &_o propter_fw-la peccatum_fw-la exordium_n sumpserint_fw-la matrimonii_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la etiam_fw-la ante_fw-la peccatum_fw-la legitur_fw-la institutum_fw-la à_fw-la domino_fw-la sacrament_n to_o have_v be_v institute_v not_o only_o before_o christ_n but_o even_o before_o the_o fall_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o cite_v either_o for_o ostentation_n or_o for_o the_o silly_a reason_n mention_v by_o the_o vindicator_n 3._o vindicator_n 4_o sent._n d._n 26._o q._n 3._o durandus_fw-la in_o express_a term_n declare_v that_o forasmuch_o as_o it_o neither_o confer_v grace_n where_o it_o be_v not_o nor_o increase_v it_o where_o it_o be_v it_o can_v be_v a_o sacrament_n true_o and_o proper_o so_o call_v it_o be_v therefore_o evident_o false_a to_o say_v that_o lombard_n be_v 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such_o as_o be_v requisite_a to_o make_v a_o true_a and_o proper_a sacrament_n to_o all_o which_o he_o have_v think_v fit_a not_o to_o offer_v one_o word_n in_o answer_n article_n 15_o 16_o 17_o 18._o of_o the_o eucharist_n as_o to_o the_o business_n of_o the_o eucharist_n 72._o vindicat._n p._n 72._o i_o have_v not_o enter_v on_o any_o argument_n about_o it_o have_v not_o mounseur_fw-fr de_fw-fr meaux_n here_o think_v fit_a to_o lay_v aside_o the_o character_n of_o a_o expositor_n to_o assume_v that_o of_o a_o disputant_n for_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n which_o be_v the_o principal_a part_n of_o this_o controversy_n i_o propose_v two_o argument_n to_o confirm_v the_o interpretation_n which_o our_o church_n give_v of_o they_o one_o from_o the_o the_o natural_a import_n of_o the_o word_n themselves_o the_o other_o from_o the_o intention_n of_o our_o saviour_n in_o the_o institution_n of_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n to_o the_o former_a of_o these_o the_o vindicator_n think_v he_o 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