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A42758 An assertion of the government of the Church of Scotland in the points of ruling-elders and of the authority of presbyteries and synods with a postscript in answer to a treatise lately published against presbyteriall government. Gillespie, George, 1613-1648. 1641 (1641) Wing G745; ESTC R16325 120,649 275

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from_o mat._n 12.41.42_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o great_a than_o jonah_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o great_a than_o solomon_n to_o conclude_v this_o case_n the_o apostle_n as_o in_o other_o epistle_n so_o in_o this_o do_v sometime_o point_n at_o common_a duty_n belong_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n sometime_o at_o the_o duty_n of_o officer_n that_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o corinth_n shall_v have_v sorrow_v for_o the_o incestuous_a man_n and_o that_o it_o be_v a_o common_a duty_n to_o they_o not_o to_o be_v commingle_v with_o fornicator_n 5.11_o and_o to_o have_v no_o fellowship_n with_o the_o unfruitful_a work_n of_o darkness_n but_o rather_o to_o reprove_v they_o in_o like_a manner_n it_o concern_v they_o all_o to_o comfort_v he_o be_v penitent_a but_o as_o for_o the_o judge_a and_o excommunicate_v of_o he_o that_o do_v belong_v only_o to_o the_o presbytery_n of_o corinth_n and_o so_o calvin_n piscator_fw-la paraeus_n and_o many_o other_o expound_v the_o apostle_n word_n his_o digression_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n alone_o 13.14_o do_v not_o give_v forth_o sentence_n judiciary_n upon_o the_o offender_n be_v not_o against_o we_o but_o against_o the_o prelatical_a party_n therefore_o i_o pass_v it_o what_o he_o allege_v from_o act._n 1._o 15.16.17.19_o &_o 6._o &_o 14._o for_o the_o churche●_n right_a of_o suffrage_n in_o the_o election_n of_o officer_n we_o do_v most_o hearty_o assent_v unto_o it_o with_o this_o distinction_n that_o when_o the_o case_n be_v such_o as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o example_n allege_v that_o be_v when_o visible_a political_a church_n be_v to_o be_v erect_v not_o have_v be_v before_o than_o the_o right_n of_o suffrage_n in_o election_n do_v indeed_o belong_v to_o the_o whole_a body_n and_o though_o this_o way_n of_o election_n be_v ordinary_a it_o can_v prove_v that_o the_o people_n have_v the_o power_n of_o that_o authority_n in_o they_o to_o which_o they_o elect_v the_o officer_n no_o more_o than_o the_o elector_n of_o the_o emperor_n have_v in_o they_o power_n of_o the_o imperial_a dignity_n say_v baynes_n but_o now_o it_o be_v not_o ordinary_a for_o when_o there_o be_v already_o a_o settle_a ecclesiastical_a republic_n or_o a_o church_n with_o officer_n the_o officer_n for_o the_o time_n be_v aught_o by_o their_o suffrage_n to_o elect_v the_o officer_n that_o be_v want_v with_o the_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n 17.18_o somewhat_o he_o demur_v upon_o act._n 15._o for_o the_o vindication_n of_o which_o place_n i_o refer_v my_o reader_n to_o the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o former_a treatise_n chap._n 1._o &_o 8._o neither_o shall_v i_o stay_v to_o examine_v by_o what_o method_n either_o this_o discourse_n or_o the_o other_o about_o election_n fall_v into_o the_o proof_n of_o his_o proposition_n concern_v that_o part_n of_o the_o elder_n office_n which_o stand_v in_o the_o censure_v of_o offender_n 21._o he_o fall_v at_o last_o into_o his_o own_o channel_n conclude_v it_o to_o be_v a_o thing_n most_o equal_a that_o the_o whole_a church_n shall_v clear_o and_o undoubted_o take_v knowledge_n of_o the_o contumacy_n of_o the_o person_n that_o be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v &_o of_o the_o crime_n for_o which_o and_o this_o we_o also_o say_v with_o he_o one_o word_n i_o desire_v to_o have_v clear_v before_o we_o proceed_v 20._o one_o of_o his_o ground_n in_o his_o discourse_n about_o election_n be_v that_o the_o church_n officer_n as_o they_o be_v the_o servant_n of_o christ_n jesus_n so_o also_o her_o servant_n for_o jesus_n sake_n 1._o 2._o cor._n 4.5_o the_o professor_n of_o leyden_n say_v well_o that_o they_o be_v not_o proper_o the_o servant_n of_o the_o church_n but_o of_o god_n and_o of_o christ_n they_o be_v not_o lord_n of_o the_o church_n neither_o but_o ruler_n guide_n bishop_n and_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o not_o servant_n of_o the_o church_n except_v objective_n that_o be_v the_o servant_n of_o god_n in_o the_o church_n or_o for_o the_o church_n good_a if_o this_o be_v his_o meaning_n it_o be_v well_o but_o i_o doubt_v he_o have_v another_o meaning_n and_o that_o be_v that_o the_o church_n do_v give_v the_o power_n which_o be_v she_o unto_o her_o officer_n as_o her_o servant_n to_o exercise_v it_o in_o her_o name_n if_o this_o be_v the_o matter_n then_o let_v we_o mark_v with_o baynes_n 88_o that_o the_o church_n do_v not_o virtual_o and_o out_o of_o power_n make_v a_o officer_n but_o she_o do_v it_o in_o stewardlike_a manner_n minister_a to_o the_o sole_a lord_n and_o master_n of_o the_o house_n so_o that_o he_o who_o be_v take_v in_o do_v not_o his_o office_n in_o her_o name_n but_o in_o his_o master_n name_n as_o a_o butler_n take_v in_o by_o the_o steward_n of_o the_o house_n do_v not_o execute_v his_o office_n