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A61521 An answer to Mr. Cressy's Epistle apologetical to a person of honour touching his vindication of Dr. Stillingfleet / by Edw. Stillingfleet. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699.; Clarendon, Edward Hyde, Earl of, 1609-1674. 1675 (1675) Wing S5556; ESTC R12159 241,640 564

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mystical_a divinity_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o these_o sergeant_a write_n come_v into_o reputation_n in_o the_o western_a church_n after_o the_o translation_n of_o they_o by_o johannes_n erigena_n and_o anastasius_n what_o authority_n it_o gain_v among_o some_o of_o the_o schoolman_n by_o its_o agreeableness_n with_o the_o doctrine_n of_o some_o arabian_a philosopher_n about_o the_o intellectus_fw-la agens_fw-la and_o other_o principle_n of_o enthusiasm_n among_o they_o how_o it_o come_v into_o germany_n among_o the_o monk_n there_o and_o what_o pretence_n to_o vision_n and_o revelation_n come_v in_o upon_o it_o what_o favour_v it_o have_v receive_v from_o the_o jesuitical_a order_n i●bilum_fw-la maximilian_n sandaeus_n have_v publish_v a_o discourse_n on_o purpose_n to_o prove_v that_o from_o the_o very_a foundation_n of_o their_o order_n the_o jesuit_n have_v be_v the_o great_a admirer_n of_o and_o pretender_n to_o mystical_a divinity_n theolog._n but_o i_o must_v stop_v 1640._o lest_o mr._n cressy_n shall_v tell_v i_o that_o i_o take_v another_o opportunity_n to_o empty_v my_o voluminous_a store_n of_o collection_n whereas_o all_o the_o pain_n i_o have_v take_v in_o this_o matter_n have_v be_v to_o give_v he_o full_a satisfaction_n that_o i_o have_v read_v and_o consider_v what_o the_o author_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n devotion_n vindicate_v have_v say_v upon_o this_o argument_n which_o he_o so_o humble_o beseech_v the_o person_n of_o honour_n to_o peruse_v hope_v by_o that_o mean_v he_o will_v come_v to_o a_o better_a opinion_n of_o sancta_fw-la sophia_n and_o mystical_a divinity_n and_o mr._n cressy_n and_o i_o dare_v leave_v any_o person_n of_o honour_n and_o understanding_n to_o judge_v whether_o notwithstanding_o what_o he_o have_v say_v for_o it_o mr._n cr._n have_v reason_n to_o account_v this_o mystical_a divinity_n the_o perfection_n of_o christian_a prayer_n and_o devotion_n chap._n iii_o of_o the_o monastic_a order_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o particular_o of_o the_o benedictin_n §_o 1._o the_o second_o thing_n to_o which_o the_o charge_n of_o fanaticis●n_n relate_v be_v the_o foundation_n of_o their_o religious_a order_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n which_o i_o say_v be_v first_o institute_v among_o they_o by_o enthusiastic_a person_n upon_o the_o credit_n of_o their_o vision_n and_o revelation_n for_o which_o i_o instance_a in_o all_o their_o most_o celebrate_a order_n viz._n the_o benedictin_n carthusian_n dominican_n franciscan_n and_o jesuit_n and_o give_v a_o particular_a account_n of_o this_o from_o the_o authentic_a history_n among_o themselves_o of_o the_o several_a founder_n of_o they_o and_o beside_o i_o produce_v the_o testimony_n of_o bellarmin_n that_o their_o religious_a order_n be_v institute_v by_o the_o inspiration_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o mr._n cressy_n decline_v the_o dispute_n about_o the_o personal_a quality_n of_o the_o founder_n of_o religious_a order_n say_v the_o most_o commodious_a way_n to_o make_v a_o true_a judgement_n of_o they_o will_v be_v to_o examine_v their_o fruit_n 21._o for_o by_o their_o fruit_n say_v our_o saviour_n they_o will_v be_v know_v therefore_o to_o determine_v whether_o it_o be_v by_o god_n inspiration_n that_o they_o institute_v their_o respective_a order_n he_o propose_v these_o two_o way_n 1._o to_o examine_v their_o several_a rule_n according_a to_o which_o their_o disciple_n oblige_v themselves_o to_o conform_v their_o life_n and_o action_n 2._o whether_o god_n have_v acknowledge_v they_o for_o his_o servant_n by_o make_v use_n of_o they_o to_o the_o great_a benefit_n of_o his_o church_n and_o dilation_n of_o his_o honour_n by_o these_o way_n he_o desire_v it_o may_v be_v judge_v whether_o there_o be_v not_o sufficient_a ground_n for_o bellarmin_n to_o say_v that_o such_o order_n be_v institute_v by_o the_o inspiration_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o so_o do_v i._o which_o can_v be_v do_v without_o a_o particular_a enquiry_n into_o the_o rule_n and_o history_n of_o their_o several_a religious_a order_n that_o by_o they_o we_o may_v see_v what_o evidence_n appear_v of_o any_o divine_a inspiration_n and_o according_a to_o mr._n cressy_n particular_a zeal_n and_o concernment_n for_o the_o benedictin_a order_n i_o begin_v with_o that_o the_o person_n of_o honour_n have_v give_v that_o character_n of_o s._n benedict_n that_o he_o believe_v he_o to_o have_v be_v a_o devout_a man_n in_o a_o dark_a time_n 28._o according_a to_o his_o talon_n of_o understanding_n but_o that_o he_o may_v have_v be_v delude_v by_o the_o effect_n of_o a_o distemper_a fancy_n as_o many_o well_o mean_v man_n have_v be_v 39_o and_o that_o he_o can_v discern_v nothing_o like_o divine_a inspiration_n in_o his_o rule_n but_o present_o meet_v with_o a_o impertinent_a allegation_n of_o scripture_n ch_n 2._o apply_v that_o place_n 42._o rom._n 8._o cry_v abba_n father_n to_o the_o person_n of_o the_o abbot_n as_o represent_v christ_n he_o proceed_v far_a to_o say_v that_o neither_o the_o read_n of_o his_o rule_n nor_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n will_v oblige_v any_o man_n to_o be_v of_o beauties_n opinion_n that_o those_o order_n be_v institute_v by_o the_o inspiration_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o because_o of_o mr._n cressy_n great_a rage_n against_o i_o upon_o this_o subject_n of_o vision_n and_o revelation_n he_o desire_v to_o know_v his_o opinion_n particular_o concern_v the_o revelation_n of_o s._n 54._o francis_n on_o the_o mount_n palombo_n concern_v the_o literal_a observation_n of_o his_o rule_n without_o any_o gloss_n which_o be_v print_v with_o his_o rule_n and_o with_o the_o pope_n bull_n and_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n bonaventure_n mr._n cressy_a in_o answer_n to_o this_o take_v no_o manner_n of_o notice_n of_o s._n francis_n his_o rule_n or_o revelation_n but_o leave_v that_o to_o shift_v for_o itself_o but_o something_o he_o must_v say_v for_o the_o honour_n of_o s._n benedict_n and_o it_o all_o amount_n to_o as_o little_a as_o can_v be_v wish_v for_o he_o do_v not_o produce_v any_o one_o thing_n to_o make_v it_o appear_v more_o probable_a that_o s._n benedict_n write_v his_o rule_n by_o divine_a inspiration_n which_o have_v be_v indeed_o to_o his_o purpose_n but_o only_o answer_v to_o the_o place_n of_o scripture_n mention_v ch._n 2._o of_o his_o rule_n and_o then_o bring_v several_a testimony_n of_o the_o great_a reputation_n the_o benedictin_a rule_n have_v be_v in_o among_o pope_n 35._o and_o saint_n and_o council_n &_o king_n &_o prince_n in_o after_o age_n and_o what_o of_o all_o this_o must_v this_o rule_n therefore_o be_v write_v by_o divine_a inspiration_n be_v it_o not_o possible_a for_o man_n to_o think_v they_o good_a rule_n without_o believe_v they_o to_o have_v be_v inspire_v suppose_v this_o be_v approve_v as_o the_o best_a monastic_a rule_n in_o these_o western_a part_n by_o pope_n and_o prince_n and_o council_n do_v it_o hence_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v immediate_o indict_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n if_o it_o be_v it_o must_v be_v of_o equal_a authority_n with_o the_o bible_n if_o it_o be_v not_o the_o charge_n remain_v good_a that_o it_o be_v only_o a_o enthusiastical_a pretence_n to_o inspiration_n §_o 2._o but_o to_o take_v off_o the_o force_n of_o all_o that_o mr._n cressy_n say_v in_o behalf_n of_o the_o benedictin_a rule_n and_o to_o make_v good_a the_o first_o charge_n although_o mr._n cr._n have_v evident_o decline_v the_o proof_n of_o the_o affirmative_a which_o lie_v upon_o he_o i_o shall_v give_v thesis_n reason_n to_o prove_v that_o this_o rule_n be_v never_o write_v by_o divine_a inspiration_n 1._o because_o the_o main_a part_n of_o it_o be_v borrow_v out_o of_o former_a rule_n 2._o because_o what_o be_v of_o s._n benedict_v own_o have_v manifest_a sign_n of_o humane_a weakness_n particular_o misapplication_n of_o scripture_n mention_v by_o the_o person_n of_o honour_n 3._o because_o it_o be_v never_o receive_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n as_o write_v by_o divine_a inspiration_n 1._o because_o the_o main_a part_n of_o it_o be_v borrow_v out_o of_o former_a rule_n where_o we_o can_v with_o so_o much_o ease_n and_o certainty_n trace_v the_o footstep_n of_o humane_a industry_n in_o any_o writing_n it_o be_v very_o unreasonable_a to_o attribute_v it_o to_o divine_a inspiration_n and_o there_o be_v not_o one_o considerable_a part_n in_o the_o benedictin_a rule_n which_o we_o can_v even_o at_o this_o distance_n of_o time_n show_v from_o whence_o it_o be_v take_v hugo_n menardus_n a_o french_a benedictin_n have_v publish_v the_o concordia_fw-la regularum_fw-la write_v by_o benedict_n abbot_n of_o aniane_n not_o by_o the_o english_a benedict_n as_o reynerus_n will_v have_v it_o who_o be_v appoint_v by_o ludovicus_n pius_n to_o bring_v all_o the_o monastery_n within_o his_o empire_n to_o one_o uniform_a rule_n 52._o which_o it_o seem_v they_o have_v not_o before_o he_o therefore_o in_o pursuit_n of_o
he_o advise_v they_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o church_n to_o follow_v the_o pattern_n of_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n to_o live_v in_o a_o community_n together_o much_o after_o the_o same_o way_n which_o s._n augustin_n have_v bring_v into_o reputation_n in_o africa_n among_o his_o clergy_n and_o who_o from_o thence_o in_o latter_a time_n be_v call_v canon_n regular_a and_o which_o be_v very_o observable_a to_o our_o purpose_n eugenius_n the_o four_o in_o a_o bull_n in_o behalf_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o lateran_n church_n 14._o say_v express_o that_o st._n gregory_n command_v austin_n to_o establish_v this_o order_n in_o the_o english_a church_n and_o these_o canon_n without_o the_o first_o community_n continue_v in_o the_o church_n of_o canterbury_n long_o after_o the_o benedictin_a monk_n be_v bring_v into_o it_o for_o i_o find_v as_o low_o as_o thomas_n becket_n time_n that_o alexander_n the_o three_o write_v to_o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n to_o make_v good_a his_o promise_n to_o one_o who_o he_o have_v admit_v canon_n of_o that_o church_n relat_n and_o promise_v he_o the_o first_o prebend_n that_o feil_n from_o whence_o the_o gloss_n of_o the_o canon_n law_n deduce_v that_o a_o man_n may_v be_v institute_v canon_n of_o a_o church_n and_o yet_o expect_v the_o next_o vacancy_n suppose_v that_o he_o receive_v some_o profit_n though_o but_o small_a the_o mean_a while_n and_o thomas_n becket_n mention_n the_o prebend_n of_o canterbury_n that_o be_v vacant_a in_o one_o of_o his_o ms._n 62._o epistle_n to_o henry_n 2._o and_o that_o monk_n and_o canon_n have_v both_o continue_v in_o the_o same_o church_n be_v full_o prove_v by_o pennottus_n 61._o if_o therefore_o i_o shall_v grant_v that_o the_o benedictin_a monk_n come_v early_o into_o that_o church_n yet_o that_o prove_v nothing_o as_o to_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o nation_n by_o they_o for_o those_o be_v of_o the_o clergy_n who_o be_v employ_v in_o that_o work_n the_o monk_n by_o the_o benedictin_a rule_n be_v so_o strict_o tie_v to_o the_o service_n of_o the_o choir_n as_o make_v they_o fit_a for_o very_o little_o beside_o i_o shall_v not_o therefore_o disspute_v with_o mal●sbury_n or_o mr._n selden_n 1._o whether_o alfric_n be_v the_o first_o who_o bring_v in_o the_o monk_n or_o whether_o they_o be_v not_o settle_v by_o boniface_n in_o the_o time_n of_o laurentius_n but_o this_o i_o insist_v upon_o that_o whereas_o by_o that_o constitution_n of_o boniface_n the_o clergy_n of_o that_o church_n be_v require_v to_o associate_v to_o they_o a_o company_n of_o monk_n in_o all_o probability_n it_o be_v intend_v for_o this_o purpose_n that_o while_o the_o other_o be_v employ_v in_o other_o duty_n of_o their_o function_n the_o monk_n may_v be_v ready_a to_o attend_v the_o service_n of_o the_o choir_n and_o yet_o neither_o boniface_n nor_o gregory_n ever_o call_v they_o by_o the_o name_n of_o benedictin_a monk_n or_o so_o much_o as_o once_o mention_v that_o rule_n in_o all_o the_o affair_n relate_v to_o the_o saxon_a church_n which_o will_v seem_v very_o strange_a consider_v its_o novelty_n at_o that_o time_n and_o what_o small_a reputation_n it_o be_v in_o either_o in_o france_n or_o italy_n 43._o and_o however_o wilfrid_n or_o benedict_n biscop_n may_v in_o some_o particular_a monastery_n introduce_v the_o benedictin_a rule_n yet_o as_o that_o learned_a gentleman_n sr._n john_n marsham_n have_v observe_v anglican_n there_o be_v no_o general_n constitution_n prescribe_v it_o before_o the_o council_n of_o winchester_n under_o dunstan_n a._n d._n 965._o and_o then_o it_o be_v not_o the_o pure_a benedictin_a rule_n but_o a_o collection_n of_o ancient_a custom_n accommodate_v to_o that_o rule_n as_o will_v easy_o appear_v to_o any_o that_o will_v compare_v the_o rule_n and_o that_o concordia_fw-la regularis_fw-la together_o not_o as_o it_o be_v imperfect_o publish_v by_o mr._n selden_n but_o as_o it_o be_v extant_a entire_a in_o reyner_n appendix_n 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