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A20601 M. Antonius de Dominis Archbishop of Spalato, declares the cause of his returne, out of England. Translated out of the Latin copy, printed at Rome this prese[n]t yeare; Marcus Antonius de Dominis archiepisc. Spalaten. sui reditus ex Anglia consilium exponit. English De Dominis, Marco Antonio, 1560-1624.; Coffin, Edward, 1571-1626. 1623 (1623) STC 7000; ESTC S120942 32,270 106

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