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be_v 22._o pag._n 168._o satis_fw-la conâ—â—at_fw-la occidentalem_fw-la seâ—_n romanaâ—_n mille_fw-la à _fw-la christo_fw-la â—nnis_fw-la in_o â—olenni_fw-la et_fw-la ordinaria_fw-la hâ—â—jus_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la dispensatione_fw-la â—tramque_fw-la paâ—â—â—_n et_fw-la â—iâ—â—_n specâ—em_fw-la omnibus_fw-la ecclesiâ—_n christi_fw-la member_n eâ—hibuiâ—â—e_v iâ—_n quod_fw-la ex_fw-la in_o nuâ—â—â—iâ—_n veâ—â—rum_fw-la scriptorum_fw-la taâ—_n grâ—coâ—um_fw-la quam_fw-la latinorum_n testimony_n manifesâ—â—â—_n est_fw-la atq_fw-la ut_fw-la ita_fw-la facerent_fw-la inductor_n fuisse_fw-la 〈◊〉_d institute_n exemploque_fw-la christi_fw-la and_o of_o the_o latin_a for_o a_o thousand_o or_o more_o year_n to_o administer_v it_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n not_o only_o to_o the_o clergy_n but_o to_o the_o people_n also_o by_o the_o institution_n &_o example_n of_o christ_n 〈◊〉_d â—ellarâ—_n de_fw-fr euchar._n l._n 4._o c._n 24._o ecclesia_fw-la autem_fw-la vetus_fw-la ministrabaâ—â—â—b_fw-la 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vary_a opinion_n together_o now_o in_o this_o sense_n who_o be_v there_o that_o be_v acquaint_v any_o thing_n in_o popish_a writing_n but_o can_v point_v out_o many_o thousand_o vary_a opinion_n among_o the_o papist_n themselves_o which_o they_o condemn_v not_o as_o we_o do_v those_o folly_n mention_v by_o genebrard_n and_o not_o go_v out_o of_o the_o compass_n of_o the_o papal_a creed_n and_o to_o give_v they_o a_o taste_n in_o their_o hierarchy_n there_o have_v be_v eleven_o point_n of_o popish_a irish_a divinity_n etc._n divinity_n censura_fw-la propositionum_fw-la ad_fw-la sacrae_fw-la theologiae_n facultatem_fw-la allatae_fw-la per_fw-la patricium_n cahil_fw-la rectorem_fw-la s._n michaelis_fw-la dublinensis_fw-la etc._n etc._n condemn_v by_o above_o 60._o doctor_n of_o sorbon_n late_o amplâ—â—â—_n late_o actum_fw-la apud_fw-la sorbonam_fw-la in_o congregationibus_fw-la publicis_fw-la sacrae_fw-la facultatis_fw-la theologiae_n parisiensis_fw-la habitis_fw-la diebus_fw-la secunda_fw-la &_o septima_fw-la â—aâ—arij_fw-la 1632._o et_fw-la confirmatum_fw-la in_o coâ—itiis_fw-la extraordinariis_fw-la deciâ—â—â—_n quinti_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la mensis_fw-la &_o anni_fw-la praesentibus_fw-la sexaginta_fw-la doctoribus_fw-la &_o amplâ—â—â—_n with_o such_o term_n as_o these_o lame_a manca_fw-la lame_a censura_fw-la in_o ista_fw-la â—_o propositioneâ—numeratio_fw-la membrorum_fw-la hierarchiae_n ecclesiasticae_fw-la est_fw-la manca_fw-la false_a falsa_fw-la false_a â—_o falsa_fw-la contrary_a to_o common_a right_n contraria_fw-la right_n 4._o juri_fw-la communi_fw-la contraria_fw-la ambiguous_a ambigua_fw-la ambiguous_a 2._o ambigua_fw-la injurious_a injuâ—iosa_fw-la injurious_a 7._o injuâ—iosa_fw-la inept_v ridiculous_a against_o the_o sense_n and_o use_n of_o the_o church_n â—sum_fw-la church_n 6_o inepta_fw-la ridicula_fw-la contra_fw-la communem_fw-la ecclesiâ—_n sensum_fw-la &_o â—sum_fw-la contrary_a to_o divine_v natural_a and_o positive_a law_n 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a_o manifest_a contradiction_n in_o his_o word_n against_o himself_o for_o above_o he_o more_o than_o once_o say_v the_o jesuite_n 〈◊〉_d our_o opinion_n profane_a novelty_n and_o heretical_a novelty_n if_o novelty_n how_o be_v they_o now_o become_v heresy_n far_o spread_v and_o of_o so_o long_a continuance_n that_o we_o be_v bold_a to_o make_v duration_n the_o mark_n of_o our_o church_n ibid._n church_n reply_v ibid._n the_o jesuite_n imagine_v here_o contradiction_n and_o why_o because_o â—â—_o opinion_n of_o long_a continuance_n can_v be_v style_v a_o novelty_n so_o that_o if_o we_o can_v manifest_v that_o a_o novelty_n may_v be_v of_o long_a continuance_n our_o jesuite_n be_v deceive_v in_o his_o slippery_a hope_n and_o what_o will_v he_o make_v novum_fw-la in_o religion_n but_o that_o which_o be_v not_o antiquissimum_fw-la our_o saviour_n when_o he_o will_v declare_v pharisaical_a tradition_n to_o be_v novelty_n do_v not_o respect_v their_o long_a continuance_n in_o the_o corrupt_a 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suscepit_fw-la reljquam_fw-la vero_fw-la omnem_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la de_fw-la mendacio_fw-la praejudicandam_fw-la quae_fw-la sapiaâ—_n contra_fw-la veritatem_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la &_o apostolorum_fw-la &_o christi_fw-la &_o dei._n for_o a_o point_n be_v 〈◊〉_d in_o religion_n that_o do_v not_o proceed_v from_o god_n and_o his_o bless_a spirit_n either_o in_o terminis_fw-la or_o by_o deduction_n from_o his_o word_n that_o be_v the_o ancient_n of_o day_n whatsoever_o pretence_n of_o duration_n and_o continuance_n may_v be_v suppose_v 〈◊〉_d be_v never_o general_o receive_v by_o the_o roman_a faction_n themselves_o before_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n â—â—_o acorus_a in_o 4._o d._n 11._o q._n 3._o apud_fw-la bellarm._n de_fw-fr euchil_n 3._o c._n 23._o ditis_fw-la ante_fw-la lateranense_n concilium_fw-la non_fw-la fuisse_fw-la dogma_fw-la fidei_fw-la transubstantiationem_fw-la â—_o rhem._n an_n not_o upon_o the_o 1._o of_o tim._n 6._o â—â—_o and_o yet_o we_o be_v condemn_v for_o call_v this_o a_o novelty_n whereas_o it_o creep_v in_o many_o hundred_o year_n after_o those_o word_n which_o they_o themselves_o account_v novelty_n both_o in_o the_o arrian_n which_o have_v their_o similis_n substantiâ—_n and_o christ_n to_o be_v ex_fw-la non_fw-la existentibus_fw-la and_o also_o other_o heretic_n that_o have_v their_o christiparam_n and_o such_o likeâ—_n â—_z new_a coin_a term_n agreeable_a to_o their_o sect_n wherefore_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o to_o free_v your_o doctrine_n from_o be_v novelty_n because_o they_o be_v of_o long_a continuance_n see_v the_o word_n of_o ancient_a heretic_n be_v of_o more_o long_a continuance_n and_o auncient_a in_o birth_n even_o many_o hundred_o year_n before_o they_o may_v better_o claim_v that_o privilege_n and_o be_v nevertheless_o style_v novelty_n by_o yourselves_o and_o as_o the_o rhemist_n acknowledge_v of_o word_n so_o we_o say_v concern_v point_n of_o doctrine_n that_o we_o be_v to_o esteem_v their_o newness_n or_o oldnes_n by_o 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therefore_o our_o jesuite_n and_o his_o contradiction_n contradict_v his_o imagine_a vanity_n and_o not_o prove_v or_o confirm_v the_o same_o for_o his_o other_o collectanea_n that_o if_o they_o be_v prophant_n novelty_n then_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o lyrinensis_n they_o ought_v to_o be_v impugn_a by_o produce_v and_o confir_v the_o agree_a sentence_n of_o ancient_a doctor_n second_o that_o the_o consent_n of_o ancient_a father_n be_v call_v the_o rule_n of_o the_o ancient_a faith_n by_o lirinensis_n in_o the_o place_n allege_v 36_o allege_v reply_v pag._n 36_o 1._o we_o have_v show_v before_o finem_fw-la before_o see_v before_o sect._n 5._o prope_fw-la finem_fw-la that_o we_o dissent_v not_o from_o lyrinensis_n be_v right_o understand_v for_o all_o kind_n of_o heresy_n be_v profane_a novelty_n howsoever_o they_o differ_v in_o extent_n or_o age_n yet_o all_o kind_n of_o heresy_n be_v not_o to_o be_v impugn_a though_o profane_a novelty_n after_o this_o manner_n in_o vincentius_n 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etc._n etc._n ideoque_fw-la ego_fw-la apostolus_fw-la dei_fw-la petrus_n qui_fw-la vos_fw-la adoptivos_fw-la habeo_fw-la filios_fw-la ad_fw-la defendendum_fw-la de_fw-la manibus_fw-la adversariorum_fw-la hanc_fw-la romanam_fw-la civitatem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d pro_fw-la co_fw-la quod_fw-la maximas_fw-la afflictiones_fw-la &_o oppressiones_fw-la à _fw-la pessima_fw-la longobâ—â—dorum_fw-la gente_fw-la patiuntur_fw-la etc._n etc._n ut_fw-la â—â—â—_o petrus_n vocatus_fw-la dei_fw-la apostolus_fw-la in_o hâ—c_fw-la vitâ_fw-la &_o in_fw-la die_fw-la futuri_fw-la exanimis_fw-la vobis_fw-la alterna_fw-la impendens_fw-la patrotiâ—â—â—_n in_o regno_fw-la dei_fw-la 〈…〉_o tabernacula_fw-la 〈◊〉_d parâ—n_n ad_fw-la remp_n venet._n paâ—â—â—_n igitur_fw-la idemque_fw-la petrus_n vicem_fw-la christi_fw-la agens_fw-la in_o terâ—â—s_fw-la and_o it_o be_v not_o long_o since_o paul_n the_o 〈◊〉_d be_v make_v peter_n also_o by_o cardinal_n baroniusâ—_n â—_z so_o that_o we_o see_v it_o be_v not_o well_o agree_v at_o 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lad_n may_v happy_o repine_v at_o either_o of_o both_o the_o name_n vet_n 〈…〉_o of_o a_o bishop_n son_n before_o that_o other_o of_o a_o pâ—rson_n and_o with_o good_a reason_n too_o forasmuch_o as_o his_o father_n do_v willing_o forsake_v the_o parsinage_n to_o get_v the_o title_n of_o a_o bishop_n â—â—_o reply_v pag._n â—â—_o here_o the_o jesuite_n will_v turn_v arsby_n if_o he_o want_v 〈◊〉_d wit_n for_o who_o see_v not_o the_o couse_n lay_v aside_o and_o the_o guard_a habit_n gird_v on_o that_o he_o may_v recreate_v the_o whole_a court_n so_o that_o jesuite_n we_o may_v know_v want_v not_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nor_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d many_o time_n 〈◊〉_d i_o will_v 〈◊〉_d the_o â—â—â—inde_n to_o explain_v himself_o and_o to_o show_v in_o what_o purpose_n he_o have_v bring_v forth_o this_o 〈◊〉_d for_o as_o it_o thus_o stand_v his_o comedy_n will_v not_o be_v understand_v â—â—ither_o answer_v the_o inquiry_n for_o he_o will_v confess_v the_o bishop_n of_o antioch_n to_o differ_v from_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n more_o than_o 〈◊〉_d person_n form_n from_o himself_o who_o father_n be_v a_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d he_o must_v acknowledge_v they_o to_o have_v the_o same_o head_n member_n command_n prerogative_n and_o upon_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d will_v not_o say_v that_o petâ—â—â—_n be_v the_o poor_a pâ—â—sâ—â—_n of_o antioch_n and_o leave_v his_o 〈◊〉_d to_o get_v his_o universal_a bishopric_n of_o rome_n for_o if_o you_o do_v it_o will_v destroy_v all_o your_o argument_n from_o tu_fw-la es_fw-la petrus_n &_o 〈◊〉_d pro_fw-la te_fw-la petre_n &_o pasâ—e_n eve_n for_o if_o the_o bishopric_n 〈◊〉_d peter_n a_o monarch_n how_o â—â—_o their_o monarchy_n be_v found_v in_o s._n peter_n or_o that_o church_n get_v any_o thing_n by_o peter_n his_o plaâ—ing_n his_o seat_n there_o and_o from_o hence_o you_o see_v the_o force_n of_o his_o reason_n that_o make_v the_o inheritance_n to_o defâ—â—â—d_v upon_o rome_n rather_o than_o upon_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n because_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o here_o of_o peter_n the_o bishop_n antioch_n only_o of_o peter_n the_o parson_n so_o that_o we_o may_v easy_o perceive_v that_o what_o he_o have_v produce_v be_v not_o to_o answer_v the_o inquiry_n but_o to_o stoâ—ne_v the_o child_n of_o bishop_n and_o priest_n â—_o parson_n as_o he_o call_v they_o but_o he_o may_v take_v notice_n that_o the_o child_n of_o priest_n be_v never_o of_o base_a â—â—eeme_n till_o the_o base_a and_o filthy_a carriage_n of_o the_o romish_a clergy_n acquire_v it_o for_o among_o the_o priest_n we_o find_v some_o marry_v to_o the_o blood_n royal_a as_o iâ—hojaâ—â—_n 11._o iâ—hojaâ—â—_n 2._o châ—_n 22._o 11._o 〈◊〉_d why_o shall_v god_n take_v such_o strict_a care_n for_o the_o choice_n of_o their_o wife_n 14_o wife_n leu._n 2d_o â—â—_o 14_o if_o he_o contemn_v their_o generation_n since_o our_o saviour_n time_n be_v it_o infamy_n to_o philip_n 〈◊〉_d that_o their_o father_n be_v a_o evangelist_n 20_o evangelist_n act_n 21._o â—_o â—_o naâ—ianâ—_n monoâ—_n in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 20_o do_v the_o jesuite_n ever_o read_v that_o s._n 〈◊〉_d repine_v at_o the_o bishop_n his_o father_n be_v gregory_n the_o great_a make_v the_o less_o that_o his_o great_a 〈…〉_o a_o pope_n or_o do_v it_o 〈…〉_o 〈◊〉_d châ—yre_n that_o the_o 〈…〉_o 〈◊〉_d the_o same_o â—_o no_o the_o child_n of_o priest_n and_o 〈◊〉_d lawful_o marry_v never_o dishonour_v their_o 〈◊〉_d neither_o be_v the_o child_n 〈◊〉_d by_o their_o 〈◊〉_d from_o a_o priest_n but_o when_o 〈…〉_o and_o mac_n a_o nâ—â—buiâ—_n and_o 〈…〉_o their_o pope_n and_o clergy_n with_o their_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d tertio_fw-la â—_o 〈◊〉_d notâ—â—_n vitam_fw-la greâ—â—â—ij_fw-la papae_fw-la 1._o factus_fw-la est_fw-la pontifex_fw-la â—_o gregoâ—ius_n qui_fw-la natus_fw-la atavo_n felice_n papa_n ejus_fw-la nominis_fw-la tertio_fw-la last_o fill_v the_o world_n full_a of_o their_o unlawful_a 〈◊〉_d this_o invent_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o make_v many_o holy_a birthâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d because_o their_o 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right_o be_v term_v unspotted_a or_o no_o 6â—_n no_o reply_v pag._n 6â—_n in_o discuss_v whereof_o he_o dare_v not_o free_a this_o church_n of_o his_o so_o much_o adore_v from_o all_o spot_n but_o only_o those_o which_o be_v of_o misbelief_n 6â—_n misbelief_n reply_v pag._n 6â—_n and_o spot_n of_o misbelief_n who_o spot_n can_v they_o be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n foâ—_n that_o company_n which_o beleive_v not_o aright_o can_v be_v esteem_v the_o church_n universal_a or_o particular_a so_o that_o every_o pure_a church_n in_o this_o sense_n have_v equal_a privilege_n though_o he_o pretend_v it_o for_o the_o only_a triumph_n of_o the_o roman_a 〈◊〉_d every_o man_n for_o â—e_v that_o be_v a_o heretic_n true_o &_o 〈◊〉_d by_o 〈◊〉_d appellation_n 〈◊〉_d be_v 〈◊〉_d of_o christ_n neither_o of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o jesuites_n preface_n be_v full_a of_o confidence_n as_o the_o answerer_n provoke_v i_o to_o the_o former_a disputation_n though_o i_o ween_v to_o his_o smart_n so_o do_v he_o give_v i_o the_o like_a occasion_n to_o buckle_v with_o he_o in_o this_o 6â—_n this_o reply_v pag._n 6â—_n who_o have_v we_o here_o hercules_n with_o his_o distasse_fw-la smart_n your_o father_n and_o fellow_n use_v not_o to_o make_v such_o worthy_n smart_n you_o have_v rather_o destroy_v then_o wound_v man_n of_o his_o quality_n but_o where_o or_o when_o be_v this_o smart_n give_v i_o be_o sure_a wound_n or_o scar_n we_o see_v none_o sure_o the_o jesuite_n have_v be_v chaplain_n to_o the_o knight_n errant_a that_o fight_v sleep_v that_o conquer_v in_o his_o dream_n otherwise_o he_o can_v not_o stand_v so_o fortify_v with_o imagination_n as_o he_o here_o appear_v nemo_fw-la alieno_fw-la sensu_fw-la est_fw-la miser_n he_o feel_v nothing_o he_o complain_v not_o it_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o he_o smart_v because_o you_o conceit_n that_o you_o have_v give_v he_o a_o wound_n this_o have_v declare_v your_o desire_n but_o not_o manifest_v the_o event_n you_o presume_v of_o but_o the_o jesuite_n seem_v to_o promise_v as_o much_o in_o this_o section_n because_o in_o a_o twit_v fashion_n the_o answerer_n say_v that_o he_o not_o only_o confound_v urbem_fw-la &_o orbem_fw-la but_o also_o mingle_v heaven_n and_o earth_n together_o by_o give_v the_o title_n of_o unspotted_a unto_o the_o catholic_a church_n of_o romeâ—_n â—_z 62_o reply_v pag_n 62_o have_v not_o this_o just_a charge_n a_o just_a ground_n if_o unspotted_a be_v a_o property_n belong_v to_o the_o triumphant_a church_n can_v it_o without_o confusion_n be_v attribute_v to_o any_o church_n upon_o earth_n how_o this_o word_n unspotted_a be_v take_v in_o antiquity_n s._n augustine_n have_v determine_v and_o the_o jesuite_n say_v nothing_o material_o in_o opposition_n why_o shall_v it_o not_o then_o continue_v in_o its_o strength_n still_o i_o will_v know_v whether_o the_o church_n in_o general_a or_o in_o her_o member_n can_v be_v without_o spot_n that_o be_v not_o defile_v in_o manner_n though_o free_a from_o false_a belief_n the_o church_n that_o be_v free_a as_o much_o as_o humane_a imperfection_n will_v permit_v confess_v herself_o black_a though_o comely_a 5._o comely_a cant._n 1._o 5._o and_o the_o jesuites_n citation_n out_o of_o paâ—â—anus_n acknowledge_v a_o freedom_n only_o from_o heresy_n 〈◊〉_d paciâ—â—_n epist_n 3._o ecclesia_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la habens_fw-la â—aculam_fw-la neque_fw-la rugam_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la haereses_fw-la non_fw-la 〈◊〉_d which_o every_o true_a church_n and_o true_a member_n have_v but_o how_o will_v the_o jesuite_n prove_v the_o roman_a church_n unspotted_a first_o he_o must_v have_v two_o thing_n grant_v he_o according_a to_o his_o present_a understanding_n or_o â—lse_o a_o â—ople_n first_o by_o the_o roman_a church_n we_o must_v understand_v the_o church_n universal_a as_o have_v be_v declare_v say_v he_o in_o the_o former_a section_n â—â—_o section_n reply_v pag._n â—â—_o second_o unspotted_a must_v have_v relation_n to_o spot_n of_o misbelief_n only_o and_o then_o i_o say_v say_v the_o jesuit_n that_o the_o roman_a church_n have_v ever_o be_v find_v and_o will_v always_o remain_v in_o that_o kind_n unspotted_a even_o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n ibid._n world_n reply_v ibid._n this_o be_v afterwit_n but_o if_o the_o jesuit_n have_v not_o prove_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v the_o universal_a in_o the_o former_a section_n if_o the_o universal_a have_v be_v without_o spot_n of_o misbelief_n when_o the_o roman_a in_o her_o prime-member_n have_v be_v infect_v with_o leprosy_n this_o will_v declare_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n if_o their_o position_n be_v true_a be_v not_o without_o spot_n or_o catholic_n either_o for_o the_o first_o the_o jesuite_n will_v get_v by_o petition_n that_o by_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v understand_v the_o church_n universal_a but_o let_v he_o know_v it_o be_v too_o great_a a_o alm_n to_o grant_v a_o adversary_n coâ—â—ngunt_fw-la joh._n sansour_n in_o polycratic_n l._n 6._o c._n 24._o romana_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quae_fw-la materomnium_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la est_fw-la se_fw-la non_fw-la tam_fw-la matrem_fw-la exhibet_fw-la alijs_fw-la quam_fw-la novercam_fw-la sedentin_n eâ_fw-la scribas_fw-la &_o phâ—risae_n ponentes_fw-la onâ—â—a_fw-la importabiliâ—_n in_o humeris_fw-la hominum_fw-la quae_fw-la digito_fw-la non_fw-la coâ—â—ngunt_fw-la and_o too_o great_a a_o imposture_n to_o be_v approve_v in_o they_o for_o i_o be_o sure_a no_o modest_a man_n will_v dream_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n can_v be_v so_o forsake_v by_o christ_n that_o it_o be_v not_o worthy_a to_o be_v govern_v but_o by_o reprobate_n as_o aliace_n testify_v of_o the_o roman_a church_n reproboâ—_n church_n card_n de_fw-fr aliaco_fw-it lib._n the_o reform_v eccl._n cap._n the_o reform_v religionum_fw-la in_o proverbium_fw-la abierit_fw-la ad_fw-la hunc_fw-la statum_fw-la venisse_fw-la romanâ—â—_n ecclesium_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la fit_a digna_fw-la regi_fw-la nisi_fw-la per_fw-la 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have_v be_v late_o lay_v open_a by_o the_o reverend_a and_o learned_a the_o lord_n bishop_n of_o leichfield_n and_o therefore_o i_o may_v here_o forbear_v it_o for_o the_o second_o i_o will_v brief_o declare_v the_o jesuite_n vanity_n herein_o and_o first_o to_o take_v away_o all_o ambiguity_n s._n augustine_n that_o use_v this_o term_n of_o unspotted_a not_o of_o the_o primitive_a roman_a but_o of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_a church_n expound_v what_o he_o mean_v by_o the_o same_o wheresoever_o in_o these_o book_n i_o have_v make_v mention_n of_o the_o church_n not_o have_v spot_n or_o wrinkle_n it_o be_v not_o so_o to_o be_v take_v as_o if_o she_o be_v so_o now_o but_o that_o she_o be_v prepare_v to_o be_v so_o when_o she_o shall_v appear_v to_o be_v glorious_a for_o now_o by_o reason_n of_o certain_a ignorances_n and_n infirmity_n of_o her_o member_n the_o whole_a church_n have_v cause_n to_o say_v every_o day_n forgive_v we_o our_o trespass_n nostra_fw-la trespass_n august_n retract_v l._n 2._o c._n â—8_o vbi_fw-la cunque_fw-la iâ—_n his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d memorari_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la
non_fw-la habentem_fw-la maculam_fw-la aut_fw-la rugam_fw-la non_fw-la sie_n accipiendum_fw-la est_fw-la quasi_fw-la jam_fw-la sit_fw-la sed_fw-la quae_fw-la prâ—paratur_fw-la ut_fw-la sit_fw-la quando_fw-la apparebit_fw-la etiam_fw-la gloriosa_fw-la nunc_fw-la enim_fw-la propter_fw-la quasdam_fw-la ignoranties_n &_o in_o firmitate_v membrorum_fw-la fuorum_fw-la habet_fw-la unde_fw-la quotidie_fw-la tota_fw-la dicat_fw-la dimitte_v nobis_fw-la debita_fw-la nostra_fw-la neither_o be_v it_o the_o question_n in_o those_o time_n whether_o the_o catholic_a church_n can_v be_v spot_v with_o heresy_n but_o with_o sin_n which_o be_v affirm_v by_o the_o catholic_a church_n against_o the_o pelagian_n and_o this_o the_o jesuite_n seem_v now_o to_o conceive_v and_o therefore_o tell_v we_o that_o by_o reason_n of_o ignorant_a and_o infirmity_n of_o her_o member_n in_o other_o matter_n the_o church_n have_v daily_a occasion_n to_o pray_v for_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n 43._o sin_n reply_v pag._n 43._o now_o the_o jesuite_n give_v the_o title_n â—â—spotted_a unto_o the_o primitive_a church_n of_o rome_n which_o he_o account_v the_o catholic_a how_o can_v the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n understand_v the_o jesuite_n term_n but_o according_a to_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n as_o it_o be_v vulgar_o take_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n second_o it_o be_v not_o amiss_o to_o conceive_v that_o the_o jesuite_n in_o his_o challenge_n call_v the_o primitive_a church_n of_o rome_n 〈◊〉_d challenge_n 〈◊〉_d in_o his_o challenge_n in_o his_o enquiry_n in_o this_o section_n he_o lay_v down_o the_o roman_a church_n without_o reâ—â—raynt_n of_o primitive_a and_o last_o in_o his_o proof_n he_o think_v he_o have_v get_v the_o day_n if_o from_o antiquity_n he_o can_v prove_v that_o the_o catholic_a church_n can_v fail_v so_o that_o you_o may_v easy_o â—spy_v who_o be_v guilty_a of_o mingle_v one_o question_n with_o another_o but_o let_v we_o examine_v this_o new_a question_n as_o the_o jesuite_n have_v propose_v it_o whether_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n may_v right_o be_v term_v unspotted_a or_o no_o â—â—_o no_o reply_v pag_n â—â—_o that_o the_o ancient_a roman_a church_n be_v invincible_a never_o fundamental_o err_v in_o the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n in_o all_o her_o member_n for_o the_o first_o 400._o or_o 500_o year_n after_o christ_n the_o jesuite_n tell_v we_o our_o doctor_n and_o master_n grannt_v challenge_n grannt_v in_o his_o challenge_n so_o that_o the_o controversy_n be_v not_o what_o the_o primitive_a church_n of_o rome_n be_v in_o regard_n of_o heresy_n but_o what_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v liable_a unto_o in_o her_o succession_n which_o the_o jesuite_n resolve_v and_o as_o he_o will_v make_v we_o believe_v from_o augustine_n and_o other_o anncient_a father_n say_v that_o in_o the_o truth_n and_o soundness_n of_o her_o faith_n and_o doctrine_n she_o be_v evermore_o invincible_a and_o not_o liable_a to_o any_o spot_n or_o stain_v 43_o stain_v reply_v pag._n 43_o but_o neither_o do_v augustine_n origen_n eusebius_n alexander_n b._n of_o alexandria_n athanasius_n cyrill_n b._n of_o jerusalem_n or_o philo_n carpathius_n etc._n etc._n who_o he_o urge_v 650_o urge_v reply_v pag_n 64_o &_o pag_n 650_o say_v any_o thing_n for_o the_o roman_a but_o for_o the_o catholic_a church_n to_o which_o they_o bear_v testimony_n that_o it_o can_v fail_v so_o that_o our_o jesuite_n fall_v under_o bellarmine_n censure_n who_o affirm_v that_o they_o do_v but_o trifle_v away_o the_o time_n who_o contend_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n can_v absolute_o fail_v because_o it_o be_v grant_v by_o the_o protestant_n themselves_o concedunt_fw-la themselves_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la mil_fw-mi l._n 3._o c._n 13._o notandum_fw-la autem_fw-la est_fw-la muluâ—_n ex_fw-la nostris_fw-la tempus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d dum_fw-la probant_fw-la absolute_a ecclesiam_fw-la non_fw-la posse_fw-la dâ—ficere_fw-la 〈◊〉_d calâ—â—â—â—_n &_o eâ—teri_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—i_fw-la 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sensu_fw-la propter_fw-la internam_fw-la gratiam_fw-la ita_fw-la est_fw-la domus_fw-la magna_fw-la cheisti_fw-la â—st_a area_n &_o agre_z dominicus_fw-la in_o alio_fw-la sensu_fw-la propter_fw-la externam_fw-la collectionem_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o peter_n church_n be_v somewhat_o harsh_a chrysostome_n near_o give_v the_o church_n no_o such_o title_n only_o their_o poor_a forge_a cyrill_n have_v ecclesia_fw-la apostolica_fw-la petri_n a_o evidence_n answerable_a to_o the_o cause_n yet_o not_o convince_a for_o the_o same_o title_n may_v be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n but_o can_v the_o word_n of_o chrysostome_n stretch_v to_o the_o roman_a church_n â—et_z the_o jesuite_n show_v it_o if_o he_o be_v able_a that_o church_n whereof_o chrysostome_n speak_v be_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n not_o of_o peter_n that_o church_n whereof_o he_o be_v a_o pastor_n constituit_fw-la pastor_n chrys_n in_o mat_n homâ—â—â—_n ecclesiae_fw-la futurae_fw-la pastorem_fw-la constituit_fw-la not_o a_o monarch_n the_o rock_n upon_o which_o it_o be_v build_v be_v not_o peter_n but_o christ_n believe_v &_o confess_v by_o peter_n confessionem_fw-la ibid._n et_fw-la super_fw-la hanc_fw-la petram_fw-la aedificabo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la meam_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la fidem_fw-la atque_fw-la confessionem_fw-la peter_n have_v no_o gift_n give_v he_o to_o preserve_v this_o church_n from_o amid_o â—â—erce_a assault_n and_o rage_a flood_n in_o this_o father_n opinion_n though_o the_o jesuite_n will_v persuade_v it_o but_o peter_n be_v confirm_v in_o his_o faith_n confess_v by_o this_o promise_n make_v that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o the_o churchy_n neither_o have_v peter_n power_n give_v he_o to_o make_v the_o church_n invincible_a but_o to_o declare_v it_o monstravit_fw-la ibid_fw-la petrus_n ecclesiam_fw-la per_fw-la universum_fw-la orbem_fw-la amplificatam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d validiâ—â—â—â—_n monstravit_fw-la and_o as_o the_o father_n ground_n this_o privilege_n of_o the_o unspotted_a crucifix_n â—_o non_fw-fr enim_fw-la turbari_fw-la te_fw-la con_fw-mi venâ—â—_n cùm_fw-la audicris_fw-la quia_fw-la tratar_n &_o crucifix_n integrity_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n upon_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n to_o peter_n matt_n 16._o so_o also_o they_o oftentimes_o deduce_v the_o same_o from_o the_o virtue_n of_o that_o prayer_n which_o christ_n make_v to_o his_o father_n for_o peter_n faith_n that_o it_o shall_v never_o fail_v luc_n 22._o wherein_o doubtless_o he_o be_v hear_v for_o his_o reverence_n heb._n 5._o 7._o â—â—_o reply_v pag._n â—â—_o there_o be_v no_o ground_n why_o the_o roman_a shall_v enjoy_v this_o privilege_n either_o from_o christ_n promise_n or_o his_o prayer_n &_o as_o the_o jesuite_n have_v fail_v in_o deduce_v any_o thing_n from_o the_o former_a so_o do_v he_o show_v his_o ability_n in_o this_o latter_a at_o his_o first_o entrance_n for_o first_o he_o bring_v in_o forge_a epistle_n under_o the_o name_n of_o lucius_n â—_o lucius_n bellarm._n l._n 2_o de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n c._n â—_o dare_v not_o affirm_v this_o epistle_n to_o be_v undoubted_a &_o it_o be_v dare_v gallo_n &_o volusâ—_n ano_fw-la cosâ—_n when_o as_o they_o be_v not_o consul_n at_o that_o time_n as_o appear_v by_o baron_n annal._n to_o â—_o a_o â—_o and_o felix_n 273._o felix_n the_o epistle_n be_v date_v claudio_n &_o paterno_n coss_n when_o as_o there_o be_v none_o such_o in_o his_o time_n baron_fw-fr ad_fw-la aâ—_n 273._o good_a bishop_n who_o will_v have_v 〈◊〉_d the_o pride_n that_o they_o be_v urge_v here_o to_o 〈…〉_o the_o rest_n he_o cite_v 〈◊〉_d good_a bishop_n we_o will_v not_o deny_v yet_o his_o goodness_n do_v not_o declare_v itself_o at_o all_o time_n when_o he_o speak_v of_o s._n peter_n or_o the_o roman_a church_n but_o his_o infirmity_n for_o as_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n both_o before_o and_o after_o he_o desire_v more_o than_o be_v fit_a so_o it_o will_v be_v no_o difficulty_n to_o show_v that_o they_o contend_v 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church_n which_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o venerable_a antiquity_n we_o find_v approve_v to_o remain_v ever_o free_a from_o all_o error_n to_o that_o rock_n against_o which_o the_o power_n of_o hell_n shall_v never_o prevail_v to_o that_o foundation_n which_o christ_n have_v settle_v by_o his_o promise_n and_o make_v for_o ever_o immovable_a by_o his_o obtain_a prayer_n 6â—_n reply_v pag._n 6â—_n how_o non-erring_a a_o church_n your_o roman_a have_v be_v in_o her_o head_n be_v already_o declare_v how_o infallible_a a_o rule_n of_o faith_n your_o chief_a pastor_n have_v prove_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n venerable_a antiquity_n by_o several_a example_n have_v detect_v what_o a_o rock_n peter_n pretend_a successor_n have_v be_v when_o the_o devil_n be_v let_v loose_a to_o split_v so_o far_o as_o possible_a the_o ship_n of_o the_o church_n have_v not_o be_v leave_v you_o untell_v and_o who_o can_v believe_v that_o christ_n his_o prayer_n for_o peter_n faith_n be_v effectual_a for_o 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suspicion_n reply_v pag._n 93_o be_v not_o here_o wisdom_n merus_fw-la logicus_fw-la be_v a_o better_a rational_a than_o we_o find_v here_o he_o will_v prove_v by_o scripture_n tradition_n be_v no_o less_o to_o be_v believe_v then_o point_v of_o faith_n express_v in_o holy_a writ_n will_v it_o follow_v therefore_o confession_n image-worship_n etc._n etc._n may_v be_v prove_v by_o good_a &_o certain_a ground_n out_o of_o sacred_a scripture_n where_o be_v your_o canonist_n schoolman_n &_o late_a jesuite_n their_o eye_n or_o wit_n that_o they_o can_v neither_o see_v nor_o find_v out_o this_o but_o rather_o reckon_v these_o point_n among_o tradition_n not_o lay_v down_o in_o scripture_n â—_o scripture_n see_v before_o light_v â—_o they_o see_v what_o you_o pretend_v your_o argument_n be_v no_o news_n they_o use_v they_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n with_o as_o much_o wilynes_n as_o you_o either_o have_v or_o can_v do_v yet_o they_o can_v never_o prove_v those_o point_n that_o be_v 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falso_fw-la 415._o ecclesia_fw-la propheâ—â—_n est_fw-la more_o than_o a_o prophet_n propheta_fw-la prophet_n idem_fw-la falso_fw-la 224._o plâ—â—quaâ—_n propheta_fw-la yea_o great_a than_o all_o the_o prophet_n prophetis_fw-la prophet_n idem_fw-la circ_n false_o 286._o major_a omnibus_fw-la prophetis_fw-la have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n for_o 〈◊〉_d â—iâ—ar_n dicit_fw-la â—iâ—ar_n idem_fw-la falso_fw-la 416._o spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la vicarium_fw-la dicit_fw-la thus_o we_o see_v what_o judge_n the_o jesuite_n do_v contest_v for_o and_o how_o far_o they_o labour_v to_o extend_v his_o power_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o pope_n who_o be_v not_o only_o a_o prophet_n but_o more_o than_o a_o prophet_n yeaâ—_n great_a than_o all_o the_o prophet_n who_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n for_o his_o vicâ—â—_n either_o with_o or_o without_o a_o council_n have_v only_o power_n to_o determine_v matter_n of_o faith_n whereby_o we_o may_v know_v what_o to_o believe_v and_o what_o not_o with_o authority_n not_o only_o equal_a but_o superior_a to_o the_o scripture_n now_o what_o strength_n do_v the_o jesuite_n bring_v to_o confirm_v this_o rule_n his_o first_o place_n be_v esay_n liiii_o and_o the_o 17._o thou_o shall_v judge_v every_o tongue_n that_o shall_v resist_v theâ—_n in_o thy_o judgement_n 99_o judgement_n reply_v pag._n 99_o sure_o the_o jesuite_n be_v like_a to_o their_o divine_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n who_o be_v restrain_v to_o the_o scripture_n and_o forbid_a schoole-disputes_a bring_v all_o the_o place_n out_o of_o the_o prophet_n and_o psalm_n where_o they_o stand_v the_o word_n confiteor_n and_o its_o verbal_a confissiâ—_n to_o prove_v auricular_a confession_n and_o they_o be_v account_v best_o learn_v who_o bring_v most_o of_o they_o 345._o they_o hist_o council_n tridâ—â—_n l._n 4._o p._n 345._o for_o here_o be_v nothing_o whereby_o to_o make_v the_o pope_n the_o infallible_a judge_n of_o controversy_n unless_o he_o will_v conclude_v 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