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A90658 A reply to a confutation of some grounds for infants baptisme: as also, concerning the form of a church, put forth against mee by one Thomas Lamb. Hereunto is added, a discourse of the verity and validity of infants baptisme, wherein I endeavour to clear it in it self: as also in the ministery administrating it, and the manner of administration, by sprinkling, and not dipping; with sundry other particulars handled herein. / By George Philips of Watertown in New England. Phillips, George, 1593-1644. 1645 (1645) Wing P2026; Thomason E287_4; ESTC R200088 141,673 168

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of_o the_o manner_n of_o administration_n as_o i_o have_v show_v before_o a_o kingdom_n be_v not_o to_o be_v take_v there_o in_o the_o sense_n that_o it_o be_v here_o in_o matthew_n it_o cease_v to_o they_o but_o be_v not_o dissolve_v in_o itself_o nor_o in_o respect_n of_o other_o to_o who_o it_o be_v give_v not_o another_o kingdom_n and_o church_n estate_n give_v to_o other_o diverse_a from_o that_o but_o the_o very_a same_o so_o matth._n 22.1_o etc._n etc._n the_o marriage_n supper_n in_o one_o and_o the_o same_o continue_v all_o the_o time_n of_o that_o church_n estate_n before_o christ_n and_o in_o these_o church_n since_o christ_n they_o be_v invite_v and_o call_v from_o time_n to_o time_n but_o they_o will_v not_o come_v at_o last_o they_o be_v therefore_o destroy_v &_o the_o gentile_n call_v in_o their_o stead_n therefore_o that_o then_o and_o this_o now_o be_v but_o one_o covenant_n and_o the_o same_o church_n estate_n the_o form_n of_o it_o then_o and_o now_o the_o same_o 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to_o a_o company_n of_o unbaptised_a person_n but_o the_o assemble_v of_o a_o company_n of_o person_n baptize_v in_o christ_n name_n be_v the_o reason_n why_o they_o be_v denominate_v a_o true_a visible_a church_n rep._n i_o grant_v that_o according_a to_o the_o intent_n of_o the_o question_n that_o the_o assemble_v of_o a_o company_n of_o man_n unbaptise_v be_v not_o the_o occasion_n why_o they_o be_v denominate_v a_o church_n yet_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v general_o apply_v to_o a_o company_n of_o unbaptised_a person_n as_o act._n 19.31.39.41_o thrice_o together_o but_o that_o a_o church_n so_o meet_v be_v of_o baptize_v person_n yet_o the_o reason_n why_o a_o company_n of_o baptize_v person_n meet_v together_o be_v call_v a_o church_n be_v true_o and_o only_o because_o they_o meet_v together_o and_o that_o not_o accidental_o for_o so_o many_o thousand_o meet_v together_o in_o one_o place_n because_o they_o constant_o meet_v together_o in_o one_o place_n by_o agreement_n to_o perform_v the_o solemn_a duty_n which_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o perform_v to_o god_n and_o each_o other_o such_o a_o meeting_n together_o be_v that_o which_o only_o give_v they_o the_o denomination_n of_o a_o church_n nor_o be_v baptism_n any_o reason_n of_o their_o meeting_n together_o for_o then_o all_o baptize_v person_n must_v meet_v together_o in_o one_o place_n nor_o can_v this_o or_o that_o company_n be_v call_v a_o church_n for_o that_o reason_n much_o less_o several_a company_n church_n if_o there_o be_v nothing_o else_o add_v matth._n 18.19_o whatsoever_o two_o of_o you_o shall_v agree_v together_o in_o where_o the_o word_n agree_v be_v proper_o by_o a_o consent_n manifest_v by_o concur_v voice_n and_o paction_n so_o use_v matth._n 20.2.13_o to_o say_v no_o more_o to_o this_o though_o i_o may_v say_v much_o more_o because_o i_o be_o not_o privy_a to_o myself_o that_o it_o be_v use_v by_o i_o i_o come_v to_o the_o next_o reason_n which_o be_v that_o whatsoever_o make_v a_o man_n a_o member_n of_o a_o church_n or_o no_o member_n that_o make_v a_o company_n of_o man_n to_o be_v a_o church_n or_o no_o church_n there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n of_o the_o whole_a that_o there_o be_v of_o every_o part_n but_o the_o make_n or_o unmake_v or_o restore_v a_o man_n to_o be_v a_o member_n be_v by_o a_o covenant_n act_v esay_n 56.4_o 6._o ergo_fw-la that_o be_v the_o form_n of_o the_o church_n his_o answer_n grant_v that_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n be_v the_o ground_n upon_o which_o the_o church_n and_o every_o member_n thereof_o be_v state_v but_o he_o deny_v that_o a_o covenant_n act_v to_o become_v one_o another_o do_v form_n the_o church_n or_o member_n either_o nor_o do_v esa_n 56.4_o 5._o prove_v any_o such_o thing_n but_o only_o that_o the_o eunuch_n or_o stranger_n that_o take_v hold_v of_o god_n covenant_n that_o be_v be_v circumcise_v and_o perform_v the_o duty_n which_o they_o be_v thereby_o bind_v to_o perform_v gal._n 5.3_o shall_v have_v a_o place_n in_o his_o house_n not_o by_o act_v a_o covenant_n and_o neglect_v circumcision_n reply_n what_o he_o say_v here_o have_v be_v say_v before_o and_o answer_v and_o i_o be_o confident_a that_o he_o can_v make_v good_a what_o he_o grant_v that_o a_o church_n be_v ground_v upon_o god_n covenant_n and_o thereby_o state_v but_o in_o this_o sense_n i_o speak_v of_o a_o covenant_n act_v by_o believer_n between_o god_n and_o they_o which_o he_o always_o leave_v out_o and_o between_o themselves_o and_o therefore_o a_o covenant_n act_v do_v form_v the_o church_n or_o membership_n thereof_o esay_n 56._o do_v prove_v it_o sufficient_o where_o the_o lord_n say_v if_o a_o eunuch_n or_o stranger_n shall_v take_v hold_n of_o and_o embrace_v my_o covenant_n that_o be_v shall_v submit_v themselves_o to_o enter_v into_o covenant_n with_o i_o take_v i_o to_o be_v their_o god_n and_o become_v one_o of_o my_o people_n by_o join_v themselves_o to_o i_o and_o they_o thereby_o and_o receive_v circumcision_n as_o a_o seal_n thereof_o and_o do_v my_o work_n shall_v have_v a_o place_n in_o my_o house_n whereas_o he_o expound_v the_o covenant_n to_o be_v circumcision_n he_o do_v but_o run_v in_o a_o common_a mistake_n it_o be_v but_o a_o sign_n &_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o can_v be_v the_o covenant_n itself_o no_o more_o than_o a_o signor_fw-it seal_n of_o a_o thing_n can_v be_v the_o thing_n itself_o that_o it_o signify_v and_o seal_v and_o be_v not_o only_o a_o error_n in_o religion_n but_o against_o manifest_a reason_n too_o but_o of_o this_o often_o before_o though_o therefore_o they_o be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v yet_o that_o be_v the_o first_o thing_n before_o which_o there_o be_v nothing_o act_v visible_o and_o that_o they_o do_v not_o first_o make_v some_o outward_a profession_n and_o expression_n of_o be_v one_o with_o they_o and_o have_v their_o god_n to_o be_v they_o will_v never_o be_v prove_v by_o he_o and_o if_o he_o will_v not_o yield_v the_o contrary_a by_o what_o be_v and_o have_v be_v say_v let_v he_o be_v content_a that_o other_o man_n be_v of_o another_o judgement_n and_o have_v his_o leave_n to_o be_v quiet_a or_o else_o convince_v i_o of_o his_o call_n he_o have_v to_o deal_v in_o such_o matter_n as_o he_o do_v with_o arrogancy_n enough_o he_o add_v not_o by_o act_v a_o covenant_n neglect_v circumcision_n i_o grant_v it_o and_o so_o also_o not_o by_o act_v a_o covenant_n or_o circumcision_n and_o neglect_v sacrifice_n etc._n etc._n but_o act_v a_o covenant_n do_v form_v the_o church_n and_o give_v they_o right_o to_o circumcision_n and_o the_o rest_n which_o must_v be_v add_v or_o else_o they_o will_v be_v find_v despiser_n of_o god_n covenant_n which_o they_o have_v make_v whereby_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o observe_v circumcision_n and_o all_o other_o appointment_n of_o god_n before_o they_o be_v circumcise_v as_o be_v manifest_a in_o all_o they_o that_o live_v before_o abraham_n day_n and_o in_o abraham_n day_n by_o god_n express_v himself_o to_o abraham_n gen._n 12_o 13.15_o chapter_n which_o be_v before_o he_o be_v circumcise_v as_o for_o that_o gal._n 5.3_o it_o have_v be_v full_o answer_v before_o and_o therefore_o i_o omit_v it_o my_o next_o reason_n be_v take_v from_o the_o comparison_n of_o a_o church_n with_o a_o candlestick_n rev._n 1.12.20_o such_o as_o be_v the_o form_n of_o a_o candlestick_n such_o by_o proportion_n be_v the_o form_n of_o a_o church_n as_o the_o matter_n signify_v the_o matter_n of_o a_o church_n proportional_o but_o the_o form_n of_o the_o candlestick_n be_v the_o join_v together_o of_o the_o shaft_n and_o branch_n signify_v the_o unite_n together_o of_o many_o member_n and_o christ_n which_o can_v be_v but_o by_o agreement_n
church-office_n be_v in_o the_o church_n itself_o hereunto_o i_o add_v these_o reason_n first_o that_o which_o concern_v all_o the_o church_n it_o be_v reason_n it_o shall_v be_v do_v by_o all_o the_o church_n but_o to_o have_v this_o or_o that_o man_n a_o officer_n to_o administer_v concern_v all_o the_o church_n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v reason_n it_o shall_v be_v do_v by_o the_o church_n to_o choose_v he_o to_o office_n second_o no_o adjunct_n in_o order_n of_o nature_n be_v before_o the_o subject_n nor_o be_v capable_a of_o receive_v any_o thing_n but_o as_o it_o adhere_v to_o and_o so_o from_o the_o subject_n but_o ministry_n be_v the_o adjunct_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o church_n be_v the_o subject_n ergo_fw-la the_o ministry_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o any_o power_n but_o as_o it_o adhere_v to_o the_o church_n and_o so_o from_o it_o as_o the_o eye_n in_o the_o body_n etc._n etc._n three_o the_o church_n be_v the_o spouse_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o body_n but_o a_o presbytery_n be_v not_o the_o spouse_n not_o the_o body_n but_o a_o part_n of_o the_o spouse_n or_o body_n rom._n 12.1_o cor._n 12._o ergo_fw-la the_o power_n be_v in_o the_o church_n primary_o and_o not_o in_o the_o presbytery_n else_o the_o head_n shall_v not_o derive_v power_n to_o the_o body_n at_o all_o and_o though_o the_o presbyter_n qua_fw-la believer_n be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n with_o the_o rest_n that_o make_v up_o the_o whole_a yet_o as_o presbyter_n they_o be_v part_n of_o christ_n and_o not_o of_o the_o church_n the_o mouth_n and_o eye_n of_o christ_n and_o not_o of_o the_o church_n so_o they_o and_o the_o church_n as_o believer_n have_v no_o power_n but_o they_o derive_v it_o immediate_o from_o christ_n which_o i_o can_v see_v how_o it_o may_v be_v make_v good_a four_o if_o the_o church_n have_v power_n to_o refuse_v a_o man_n and_o to_o put_v he_o out_o than_o she_o have_v power_n to_o choose_v and_o put_v he_o in_o but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a else_o she_o 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ergo_fw-la the_o power_n belong_v to_o the_o church_n and_o not_o to_o the_o presbytery_n the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a exod._n 19.1_o pet._n 2.5_o rev._n 7.6_o and_o that_o as_o a_o church_n the_o consequent_a be_v evident_a because_o etc._n etc._n they_o shall_v be_v titular_a thing_n only_o and_o have_v a_o naked_a name_n only_o without_o power_n and_o they_o that_o be_v not_o king_n and_o priest_n etc._n etc._n as_o the_o presbytery_n qua_fw-la tale_n they_o shall_v have_v the_o power_n last_o of_o all_o if_o the_o word_n go_v tell_v the_o church_n be_v mean_v not_o of_o the_o presbytery_n only_o but_o of_o the_o church_n of_o saint_n the_o whole_a body_n consist_v of_o flock_n and_o elder_n than_o the_o power_n belong_v not_o to_o the_o presbytery_n but_o to_o the_o whole_a but_o the_o word_n go_v tell_v the_o church_n be_v not_o mean_v of_o a_o presbytery_n but_o of_o the_o whole_a consist_v of_o flock_n and_o elder_n ergo_fw-la the_o power_n belong_v to_o the_o church_n as_o 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salute_v the_o whole_a church_n and_o may_v do_v it_o well_o enough_o without_o any_o inconvenience_n yea_o and_o the_o text_n say_v he_o do_v and_o therefore_o it_o be_v more_o than_o likely_a even_o a_o most_o certain_a truth_n the_o place_n therefore_o will_v not_o prove_v that_o the_o word_n church_n do_v mean_a presbytery_n nor_o argue_v that_o go_v tell_v the_o church_n be_v tell_v the_o presbytery_n second_o from_o the_o relation_n of_o the_o party_n offend_v which_o be_v to_o the_o church_n and_o not_o to_o the_o presbytery_n for_o their_o fellowship_n be_v with_o the_o church_n as_o church_n the_o covenant_n and_o brotherhood_n be_v with_o they_o and_o therefore_o though_o the_o presbytery_n orderly_o exercise_v the_o power_n yet_o it_o be_v in_o ordine_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la there_o be_v no_o particular_a relation_n between_o the_o party_n and_o presbytery_n as_o may_v advantage_v the_o presbytery_n to_o exercise_v such_o a_o act_n of_o power_n over_o the_o party_n no_o more_o than_o they_o may_v administer_v the_o sacrament_n to_o a_o private_a person_n but_o to_o he_o as_o a_o church_n member_n and_o with_o the_o whole_a church_n three_o the_o presbytery_n consist_v of_o three_o or_o four_o elder_n be_v ofsend_v by_o a_o brother_n bind_v up_o in_o fellowship_n with_o a_o hundred_o private_a brethren_n now_o the_o presbytery_n admonish_v they_o can_v go_v no_o further_o if_o they_o be_v the_o church_n and_o the_o brother_n not_o hear_v the_o presbytery_n be_v to_o be_v account_v as_o a_o publican_n and_o heathen_a though_o not_o one_o of_o the_o hundred_o know_v of_o it_o and_o so_o if_o a_o private_a brother_n offend_v and_o bring_v it_o to_o the_o prebytery_n four_o the_o presbytery_n may_v be_v the_o party_n offend_v and_o then_o you_o must_v tell_v the_o church_n that_o the_o church_n offend_v that_o be_v go_v tell_v themselves_o if_o you_o say_v i_o may_v tell_v the_o classis_fw-la i_o answer_v take_v for_o grant_v there_o be_v such_o a_o 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