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A01005 The Church conquerant ouer humane wit. Or The Churches authority demonstrated by M. VVilliam Chillingvvorth (the proctour for vvit against her) his perpetual contradictions, in his booke entituled, The religion of Protestants a safe vvay to saluation Floyd, John, 1572-1649.; Lacey, William, 1584-1673, attributed name. 1638 (1638) STC 11110; ESTC S102366 121,226 198

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