they_o shall_v not_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o vision_n beatifical_a till_o after_o the_o resurrection_n occam_fw-la scotus_n lib._n 4._o do_v 45._o qu._n 4._o valentia_n with_o other_o deny_v that_o the_o saint_n depart_v or_o angel_n see_v all_o thing_n in_o speculo_fw-la trinitatis_fw-la in_o god_n who_o see_v all_o thing_n but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v essential_a to_o their_o happiness_n 27._o videt_fw-la omne_fw-la qui_fw-la videt_fw-la videntem_fw-la omne_fw-la greg._n m._n in_o 2._o tom._n 3._o digre_n 17._o p._n 118._o in_o august_n de_fw-fr civil_a dei_fw-la l._n 8._o c._n 27._o and_o which_o he_o be_v please_v to_o represent_v to_o they_o claudius_n espencaeus_fw-la testify_v that_o some_o old_a folk_n trust_v in_o the_o saint_n and_o ascribe_v no_o less_o to_o they_o than_o to_o god_n himself_o and_o think_v it_o easy_a to_o entreat_v or_o prevail_v with_o one_o of_o they_o for_o obtain_v their_o request_n and_o desire_n than_o he_o ludovicus_n vives_z profess_v he_o can_v 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add_v several_a other_o point_n of_o doctrine_n which_o if_o they_o be_v not_o already_o by_o the_o tridentine_a decree_n may_v become_v article_n of_o faith_n whensoever_o the_o pope_n please_v the_o pope_n infallibility_n 4._o to_o deny_v it_o be_v sententia_fw-la haeresi_fw-la proxima_fw-la non_fw-la proprie_fw-la haeretica_fw-la de_fw-fr infallib_n papae_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 1._o v._o caranzam_n sess_n 12.38.35_o v._o alphons_n de_fw-fr castro_n adv_fw-la haeres_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 2._o vid._n cap._n 4._o ibid._n stapleton_n contr._n 3._o qu._n 4._o say_v it_o be_v no_o point_n of_o faith_n but_o of_o opinion_n only_o cusan_a concord_n l._n 1._o c._n 14._o canus_n loc_fw-la com._n l._n 6._o c._n ult_n cajetan_n de_fw-fr authorit_fw-fr papae_fw-la c._n 26._o lib._n 1._o c._n 4._o valent._n lib._n 8._o analys_n fidei_fw-la cap._n 1._o pope_n hadrian_n in_o 4._o de_fw-la sacram._n confirmat_fw-la sub_fw-la finem_fw-la canus_n loc._n l._n 6._o c._n ult_n p._n 331._o valentia_n analys_n fidei_fw-la lib._n 8._o c._n 3._o &_o 4._o v._o bellar._n de_fw-fr pontif._n m._n waldensis_n doctrine_n sidei_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 19_o add_v alph._n de_fw-fr castro_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 4._o the_o ground_n rock_n and_o foundation_n of_o all_o their_o faith_n and_o religion_n be_v ferè_fw-la almost_o say_v bellarmin_n a_o article_n of_o faith_n and_o but_o almost_o which_o all_o prudent_a and_o consider_a man_n may_v well_o wonder_v at_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o only_o deny_v by_o the_o council_n of_o basil_n who_o decree_n that_o it_o be_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la a_o point_n of_o faith_n that_o the_o pope_n ought_v to_o be_v subject_a to_o a_o general_n council_n in_o regard_n he_o may_v be_v as_o liberius_n zepherinus_n honorius_n anastasius_n and_o some_o other_o pope_n be_v a_o notorious_a heretic_n and_o schismatic_a but_o strong_o confute_v by_o occam_n qu._n 1._o de_fw-fr potestate_fw-la pontif._n c._n 9_o almain_n quaest_n in_o vesp_n de_fw-fr autoritate_fw-la eccl._n c._n 10._o ovandus_fw-la 4._o dist_n 18._o prop._n 25._o coral_n 2._o nicolas_n clemangis_fw-la de_fw-la corrupto_fw-la eccles_n statu_fw-la alvarus_n pelagius_n de_fw-fr planctu_fw-la eccl._n contarenus_n gerson_n etc._n etc._n lyra_n in_o matth._n 16._o turrecremata_fw-la summ._n eccl._n l._n 4._o part_n 2._o c._n 16.20_o with_o many_o more_o grant_v the_o pope_n may_v be_v a_o heretic_n in_o his_o private_a person_n or_o judgement_n yea_o as_o alphons_n de_fw-fr castro_n bozius_n tom._n 2._o the_o sign_n eccles_n l._n 18._o c._n ult_n bannes_n 22._o qu._n 1._o art._n 10._o acknowledge_v that_o he_o may_v be_v not_o only_o a_o heretic_n himself_o but_o impose_v by_o his_o pontifical_a authority_n in_o his_o decree_n heresy_n on_o the_o whole_a church_n the_o truth_n be_v there_o be_v need_n of_o a_o infallible_a judge_n to_o determine_v where_o or_o in_o who_o the_o roman_a infallibility_n reside_v some_o of_o they_o say_v in_o the_o pope_n alone_o whether_o he_o mature_o consider_v what_o he_o decree_v or_o no._n whether_o the_o premise_n on_o which_o he_o build_v his_o conclusion_n be_v pertinent_a or_o not_o true_a or_o false_a some_o in_o the_o pope_n assist_v with_o a_o general_n or_o provincial_a council_n some_o in_o a_o general_n council_n without_o yea_o decree_a against_o the_o pope_n some_o in_o the_o universal_a tradition_n of_o the_o church_n they_o have_v little_a reason_n then_o to_o upbraid_v protestant_n with_o their_o difference_n of_o opinion_n in_o lesser_a matter_n see_v they_o differ_v among_o themselves_o in_o the_o fundamental_a article_n and_o ground_n of_o all_o their_o religion_n 2._o the_o immaculate_a conception_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n mary_n this_o be_v almost_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n among_o they_o insomuch_o that_o no_o divine_a can_v commence_v doctor_n as_o salmeron_n report_v in_o the_o university_n of_o paris_n 12._o orig._n hom._n 17._o in_o lucam_n chrysost_n hom._n 45._o &_o 46._o in_o matthaeum_n august_n quaest_n vet_z &_o novi_fw-la test_n qu._n 73._o theophylact._n in_o 2._o lucae_n &_o matth._n 12._o unless_o he_o swear_v to_o maintain_v it_o nevertheless_o it_o be_v not_o only_o contradict_v by_o the_o ancient_a father_n general_o but_o by_o the_o elder_a school_n man_n as_o banne_n part_v 1._o in_o tho._n qu._n art_n 8._o dub_v 5._o and_o turrecremata_fw-la de_fw-fr consecrat_fw-mi do_v 4._o num_fw-la 11._o acknowledge_v lombard_n lib._n 3._o sent._n do_v 3._o aquinas_n sum_n 3._o part_n qu._n 27._o art_n 2._o cajeran_n opusc_a tom._n 2._o tract_n 1._o the_o conceptione_n virg._n bonaventure_n dist_n 3._o in_o sent._n 3._o qu._n 1._o art._n 1._o capreolus_n l._n 3_o do_v 3._o to_o who_o many_o more_o may_v be_v add_v assirm_v the_o same_o 3._o that_o the_o apocryphal_a book_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v as_o of_o equal_a authority_n with_o the_o canonical_a be_v decree_v and_o so_o make_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n yet_o it_o be_v evident_o contradict_v not_o only_o by_o the_o laodicean_n council_n ruffinus_n 19_o augustin_n count_v gaudentium_fw-la l._n 2_o c._n 23._o see_v field's_n appendix_n to_o his_o three_o book_n of_o the_o church_n loc._n lib._n 2._o c._n 9_o biblioth_n lib._n 1._o c._n 19_o origen_n hierom_n p._n gregory_n the_o great_a and_o other_o but_o by_o multitude_n of_o their_o own_o modern_a writer_n as_o cajetan_n lyra_n hugo_n sigonius_n occam_n the_o ordinary_a gloss_n waldensis_n antoninus_n tostatus_n carthusianus_n faber_n clichtoveus_n driedo_n ferus_fw-la with_o many_o more_o canus_n even_o since_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n decree_n say_v it_o be_v no_o heresy_n to_o reject_v the_o book_n of_o baruc_n and_o sixtus_n senensis_n since_o that_o council_n deny_v the_o addition_n to_o the_o book_n of_o hester_n to_o be_v canonical_a 4._o that_o we_o be_v justify_v by_o our_o own_o good_a work_n or_o inherent_a righteousness_n and_o not_o by_o faith_n only_o be_v decree_v by_o the_o trent_n council_n as_o a_o article_n of_o catholic_n faith_n yet_o it_o be_v plain_o contradict_v not_o only_o by_o the_o
blood._n in_o the_o next_o chapter_n in_o 3_o verse_n together_o he_o call_v it_o bread._n may_v not_o we_o call_v it_o so_o or_o be_v it_o not_o what_o st._n paul_n call_v it_o but_o he_o call_v it_o the_o lord_n body_n true._n yet_o not_o in_o a_o literal_a but_o sacramental_a sense_n even_o as_o the_o cup_n which_o to_o be_v sure_o be_v not_o transubstantiate_v be_v term_v his_o blood_n or_o the_o new_a testament_n and_o covenant_n in_o his_o blood_n as_o the_o lamb_n be_v call_v the_o passover_n circumcision_n the_o covenant_n baptism_n the_o laver_n of_o regeneration_n in_o which_o nevertheless_o romanist_n do_v not_o believe_v any_o transubstantiation_n this_o bread_n we_o doubt_v not_o be_v in_o deed_n christ_n body_n as_o that_o rock_n in_o the_o wilderness_n be_v christ_n as_o christ_n be_v the_o true_a vine_n or_o true_a live_a bread_n which_o no_o sober_a man_n will_v interpret_v in_o a_o literal_a proper_a and_o substantial_a but_o in_o a_o sacramental_a symbolical_a or_o 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man_n who_o be_v void_a of_o grace_n die_v not_o in_o the_o lord_n go_v to_o hell_n not_o purgatory_n how_o do_v righteous_a and_o good_a man_n enter_v into_o peace_n and_o rest_n according_a to_o isa_n 57.20_o if_o after_o death_n they_o enter_v into_o fiery_a torment_n st._n paul_n say_v it_o general_o of_o all_o believer_n in_o christ_n not_o martyr_n only_o as_o some_o will_v evade_v that_o they_o sleep_v in_o jesus_n and_o will_v not_o have_v we_o to_o sorrow_n excessive_o for_o they_o how_o do_v they_o as_o it_o be_v sleep_v in_o christ_n bosom_n why_o shall_v we_o not_o mourn_v exceed_o for_o they_o if_o they_o probable_o lie_v in_o flame_n of_o fiâ—e_n under_o unspeakable_a torment_n not_o much_o inferior_a to_o they_o of_o hell_n as_o be_v grant_v except_v only_o the_o duration_n or_o continuance_n add_v john_n 52.4_o he_o that_o believe_v shall_v not_o come_v into_o condemnation_n but_o be_v pass_v from_o death_n to_o life_n but_o he_o that_o come_v unto_o purgatory_n come_v into_o condemnation_n possible_o it_o will_v be_v object_v that_o saint_n paul_n 1_o cor._n 3.12_o 1._o patres_fw-la aliqui_fw-la per_fw-la ignem_fw-la non_fw-la intelligunt_fw-la ignem_fw-la purgatorii_fw-la sed_fw-la divini_fw-la judicii_fw-la quomodo_fw-la loquor_fw-la paulus_n 1_o cor._n 3._o bellar._n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr purge_n cap._n 1._o augustin_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o operibus_fw-la c._n 15._o ad_fw-la dulcitium_fw-la qu._n 1._o bellarmin_n de_fw-fr purgator_n lib._n 1._o c._n 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o chrysostom_n expound_v it_o tom._n 5._o hom._n 28._o p._n 467._o ad_fw-la dulcitium_fw-la qu._n 1._o plain_o deliver_v the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n the_o fire_n shall_v try_v every_o man_n work_n he_o shall_v be_v save_v yet_o so_o as_o by_o fire_n but_o how_o can_v it_o be_v a_o plain_a place_n for_o purgatory_n when_o origen_n and_o augustine_n yea_o bellarmine_n himself_o confess_v it_o be_v a_o most_o obscure_a one_o and_o therefore_o very_o unfit_a to_o ground_v a_o article_n of_o faith_n upon_o st._n paul_n whole_a discourse_n in_o that_o chapter_n be_v metaphorical_a and_o allusive_a as_o those_o word_n especial_o evidence_n v._o 15._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o it_o be_v by_o fire_n or_o as_o by_o fire_n i._n e._n with_o much_o danger_n and_o difficulty_n like_o one_o who_o run_v through_o the_o fire_n to_o save_v his_o life_n that_o the_o place_n prove_v not_o the_o roman_a doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n be_v manifest_a by_o this_o argument_n urge_v by_o by_o saint_n augustine_n the_o fire_n st._n paul_n mention_v shall_v try_v every_o man_n work_n the_o fire_n of_o purgatory_n as_o they_o themselves_o grant_v tri_v not_o every_o man_n work_n 3._o ignis_fw-la probationis_fw-la non_fw-la purgationis_fw-la aug._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o operibus_fw-la c._n 15._o non_fw-fr est_fw-fr plenè_fw-la remissa_fw-la culpa_fw-la quamdiu_fw-la peccator_fw-la est_fw-la reus_fw-la solvendae_fw-la poenae_fw-la ceanus_fw-la loc_fw-la theolog._n lib._n 12._o pag._n 435._o exemplo_fw-la reatu_fw-la eximitur_fw-la &_o poena_fw-la tert._n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la cap_n 5._o so_o theodoret_n theophylact_fw-mi and_o anselm_n approve_v by_o bellarmin_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr purgator_n c._n 5._o pag._n 586._o malachi_n 3._o c._n v._o 3._o for_o it_o tri_v only_o such_o man_n work_n as_o die_v under_o the_o guilt_n of_o venial_a sin_n or_o such_o mortal_a one_o as_o be_v forgive_v but_o be_v not_o full_o satisfy_v for_o and_o therefore_o which_o be_v a_o contradiction_n be_v still_o to_o be_v punish_v therefore_o st._n paul_n fire_n can_v be_v the_o fire_n of_o purgatory_n into_o which_o the_o best_a and_o worst_a sort_n of_o man_n come_v not_o at_o all_o again_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o try_v man_n work_n whether_o they_o be_v good_a or_o bad_a and_o another_o to_o punish_v and_o by_o punish_v to_o purge_v away_o the_o guilt_n of_o such_o as_o be_v bad_a in_o all_o probability_n st._n paul_n by_o the_o fire_n in_o that_o text_n figurative_o express_v the_o severe_a judgement_n of_o christ_n at_o the_o last_o day_n the_o day_n shall_v declare_v it_o then_o indeed_o our_o saviour_n like_o a_o goldsmith_n or_o refiner_n shall_v exact_o try_v every_o man_n work_n etc._n etc._n then_o such_o as_o retain_v the_o foundation_n i._n e._n true_a faith_n in_o christ_n and_o build_v upon_o it_o wood_n hay_n stubble_n i._n e._n erroneous_a opinion_n and_o fond_a imagination_n of_o which_o this_o purgatory_n doctrine_n be_v one_o instance_n shall_v be_v save_v yet_o so_o as_o by_o fire_n i._n e._n with_o much_o danger_n undergo_a a_o strict_a scrutiny_n 10.14_o nor_o prayer_n to_o saint_n or_o angel_n psalm_n 50._o de_fw-fr sanct._n beat._n l_o 1._o c._n 19_o becanus_n in_o euchirid_n c._n 7._o salmeron_n in_o 1_o tim._n 2._o disput_fw-la 2._o art_n 7._o vide_fw-la sixtum_fw-la senens_fw-la biblioth_n lib._n 6._o annotat_fw-la 345._o enchiridion_n in_o 1_o tim._n 2._o disput_fw-la 7._o art_n 22._o qu._n 1._o art_n 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sacrifice_n in_o praise_n and_o thanksgiving_n and_o because_o as_o a_o priest_n he_o have_v offer_v up_o himself_o a_o perfect_a sacrifice_n to_o god_n for_o we_o 7._o v._o origen_n supra_fw-la psalm_n 20._o si_fw-mi cultus_fw-la tantum_fw-la dicatur_fw-la non_fw-la soli_fw-la deo_fw-la debetur_fw-la sed_fw-la religio_fw-la etc._n etc._n aug._n de_fw-fr civit._fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 10._o c._n 1._o de_fw-fr praep._n lib._n 12._o c._n 7._o hence_o we_o say_v to_o he_o let_v he_o remember_v all_o thy_o sacrifice_n etc._n etc._n here_o we_o see_v propitiation_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o intercession_n as_o for_o angel_n he_o grant_v to_o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d honour_n according_a to_o the_o dignity_n of_o their_o excellent_a nature_n so_o do_v we_o but_o reserve_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o religious_a honour_n or_o worship_n to_o god_n only_o this_o be_v the_o very_a doctrine_n of_o protestant_n the_o due_a honour_n of_o saint_n he_o explain_v thus_o we_o go_v to_o their_o sepulcher_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d at_o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o make_v prayer_n not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ipsis_fw-la to_o they_o as_o trapezuntius_fw-la false_o if_o not_o perfidious_o translate_v it_o but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d at_o they_o which_o be_v another_o thing_n but_o let_v we_o hear_v the_o testimony_n of_o athanasius_n the_o true_o great_a who_o every_o where_o in_o his_o oration_n against_o the_o arian_n arian_n orat._n tertia_fw-la in_o arian_n prove_v as_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o father_n unanimous_o do_v christ_n to_o be_v true_a god_n by_o this_o argument_n especial_o because_o he_o be_v pray_v to_o dei_fw-la v._o novatian_n de_fw-fr trinit_fw-la c._n 14._o si_fw-mi homo_fw-la tantummodo_fw-la christus_fw-la cur_n in_o orationibus_fw-la invocaeur_fw-fr etc._n etc._n quomodo_fw-la adest_fw-la ubique_fw-la invocatus_fw-la cum_fw-la haec_fw-la hominis_fw-la natura_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la sed_fw-la dei_fw-la which_o 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athanas_n orat._n 3._o in_o arian_n he_o add_v david_n pray_v to_o none_o for_o deliverance_n but_o to_o god_n to_o thou_o o_o lord_n have_v i_o cry_v etc._n etc._n and_o conclude_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v evident_a the_o patriarch_n jacob_n join_v none_o in_o his_o prayer_n to_o god_n but_o the_o word_n who_o he_o therefore_o call_v the_o angel_n because_o he_o alone_o reveal_v the_o father_n do_v not_o they_o then_o willing_o abuse_v themselves_o and_o other_o who_o take_v athanasius_n for_o a_o roman_n catholic_n or_o invocation_n of_o angel_n for_o a_o article_n of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_n faith_n hold_v by_o all_o sound_a christian_n in_o all_o age_n or_o that_o the_o angel_n appear_v to_o the_o old_a patriarch_n be_v a_o create_a angel_n i_o will_v add_v his_o contemporary_a saint_n hilary_n who_o although_o he_o grant_v which_o protestant_n deny_v not_o that_o the_o angel_n pray_v for_o the_o church_n militant_a here_o on_o earth_n yet_o he_o no_o where_n allow_v invocation_n of_o they_o but_o on_o psalm_n 29_o and_o 124._o he_o advise_v all_o christian_n to_o pray_v to_o god_n in_o regard_n he_o be_v omnipresent_v in_o all_o place_n ready_a to_o help_v which_o be_v not_o true_a of_o saint_n or_o angel_n in_o like_a manner_n on_o psalm_n 140._o he_o say_v 106._o in_o maledicto_fw-la est_fw-la religio_fw-la creaturae_fw-la hil._n de_fw-fr trinit_fw-la l._n 8._o p._n 106._o magnificentiae_fw-la dei_fw-la est_fw-la orari_fw-la it_o pertain_v to_o the_o magnificence_n or_o prerogative_n of_o god_n to_o be_v pray_v unto_o hitherto_o the_o coast_n be_v clear_a and_o we_o have_v the_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o the_o father_n for_o about_o 340_o year_n after_o christ_n against_o invocation_n of_o saint_n angel_n or_o any_o creature_n whence_o we_o undoubted_o conclude_v that_o it_o be_v though_o a_o part_n of_o the_o present_a roman_a yet_o not_o of_o the_o true_a ancient_a and_o catholic_n faith_n believe_v semper_fw-la ubique_fw-la &_o apud_fw-la omnes_fw-la always_o in_o all_o place_n by_o all_o sound_a christian_n for_o such_o doctrine_n as_o vincentius_n lyrinensis_n right_o note_n be_v only_o true_o catholic_n that_o be_v universal_a as_o the_o name_n itself_o catholic_n signify_v to_o proceed_v basil_n the_o great_a hom._n 3._o in_o hexaemeron_n all_o honour_n worship_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v due_a to_o god_n only_o in_o psalm_n 7._o he_o say_v our_o hope_n be_v to_o be_v place_v in_o god_n only_o in_o psal_n 18._o that_o if_o any_o man_n worship_v the_o creature_n beside_o though_o with_o the_o creator_n he_o give_v not_o glory_n to_o god_n but_o the_o creature_n and_o in_o psalm_n 45._o instead_o of_o saint_n and_o angel_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o in_o all_o our_o necessity_n god_n be_v our_o only_a refuge_n in_o his_o funeral_n oration_n on_o gordius_n he_o acquaint_v we_o with_o the_o true_a end_n of_o those_o commendatory_a or_o commemoratory_n solemnity_n observe_v on_o the_o natalitia_fw-la or_o festival_n of_o the_o martyr_n to_o wit_n to_o glorify_v god_n and_o to_o stir_v up_o the_o people_n to_o imitation_n of_o their_o virtue_n but_o no_o mention_n find_v we_o there_o of_o pray_v to_o they_o i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a that_o out_o of_o basil_n nazianzen_n gregory_n nyssen_n etc._n etc._n their_o funeral_n oration_n some_o rhetorical_a apostrophe_n to_o and_o compellation_n of_o the_o saint_n decease_v be_v urge_v for_o invocation_n of_o saint_n by_o bellarmine_n and_o other_o to_o which_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o in_o the_o most_o primitive_a and_o ancient_a father_n we_o as_o we_o have_v see_v find_v they_o not_o from_o the_o beginning_n it_o be_v not_o so_o second_o that_o rhetorical_a flourish_n of_o eloquence_n be_v no_o safe_a and_o sure_a ground_n to_o build_v a_o article_n of_o faith_n upon_o as_o theodoret_n grant_v non_fw-la ego_fw-la dogmatum_fw-la regulam_fw-la ea_fw-la duco_n 3_o dial._n 3_o quae_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la
ancient_a father_n clem._n rom._n epist_n ad_fw-la corinth_n justin_n martyr_n ad_fw-la diognet_fw-la origen_n in_o cap._n 3._o ad_fw-la rom._n ambrose_n in_o rom._n c._n 4._o &_o 9_o basil_n de_fw-fr humil._n theodoret_n the_o curand_n graec._n affect_v lib._n 7._o chrysostome_n in_o galat._n c._n 3._o hesychius_n in_o levit._n l._n 4._o c._n 3._o with_o other_o but_o by_o aquinas_n in_o galat._n 3._o lect_n 4._o in_o rom._n 3._o lect_n 4._o pighius_fw-la de_fw-fr justific_a cardinal_n contarenus_n the_o antirdidag_n coloniens_fw-la anselm_n apud_fw-la hosium_n tom._n 1._o confess_v cathol_n bonaventure_n 4._o do_v 15._o qu._n 1._o jansenius_n concordant_a c._n 20._o p._n 157._o gerson_n lib._n 4._o the_o consolat_a theolog._n prosa_fw-la 1._o 5._o that_o good_a work_n merit_v eternal_a life_n be_v in_o like_a manner_n decree_v by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n but_o waldensis_n sacramental_a tit._n 1._o c._n 7._o say_v he_o be_v the_o better_a catholic_n that_o simple_o deni_v all_o merit_n and_o confess_v that_o heaven_n be_v obtain_v by_o grace_n only_o the_o like_a be_v affirm_v by_o ferus_fw-la lib._n 3._o com._n cap._n 20._o in_o matthaeum_n stella_fw-la in_o lucam_fw-la c._n 8._o â—â—_o ibid._n c._n â—â—_o marsilius_n de_fw-fr gratuita_fw-la justif_a 6._o p._n adrian_n and_o clitoveus_n apud_fw-la cassand_n consult_v art._n 6._o faber_n stapulensis_n in_o cap._n 11._o add_v roman_n petavius_n the_o jesuit_n in_o effect_n deni_v all_o merit_n which_o he_o say_v dissert_n eccl._n lib._n 2._o c._n 4._o depend_v on_o god_n grace_n and_o free_a promise_n bellarmine_n after_o his_o long_a dispute_n about_o justification_n by_o work_n and_o salvation_n by_o merit_n confate_v all_o he_o have_v say_v in_o these_o few_o word_n 7._o de_fw-fr justif_a lib._n c._n 7._o tutissinum_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v the_o safe_a way_n propter_fw-la incertitudinem_fw-la propriae_fw-la justitiae_fw-la in_o regard_n of_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o our_o own_o 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