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A39573 Baby-baptism meer babism, or, An answer to nobody in five words to every-body who finds himself concern'd in't by Samuel Fisher. Fisher, Samuel, 1605-1665. 1653 (1653) Wing F1055; ESTC R25405 966,848 642

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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d utter_o inconsistent_a each_o with_o other_o as_o to_o be_v let_v into_o a_o room_n when_o and_o while_o one_o be_v already_o in_o the_o room_n be_v impossible_a yet_o with_o mr._n b._n person_n be_v let_v into_o the_o visible_a church_n after_o they_o be_v in_o it_o yea_o they_o must_v be_v in_o it_o say_v he_o before_o they_o may_v be_v admit_v to_o be_v in_o it_o nor_o will_v his_o distinction_n of_o a_o member_n complete_a and_o incomplete_a p._n 24._o which_o he_o use_v before_o to_o the_o term_n disciple_n which_o i_o know_v he_o will_v make_v help_v he_o at_o all_o here_o since_o with_o himself_o a_o incomplete_a member_n be_v one_o that_o have_v but_o jus_o ad_fw-la rem_fw-la not_o in_o re_fw-mi ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la not_o in_o ecclesia_fw-la a_o right_a to_o only_o not_o a_o stand_n in_o the_o church_n a_o title_n to_o the_o relative_a change_n and_o not_o a_o be_v yet_o in_o that_o relative_a change_n that_o he_o say_v pass_n upon_o he_o by_o 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