suppose_v that_o those_o 3000._o stand_v near_o unto_o he_o that_o speak_v and_o with_o best_a advantage_n to_o hear_v there_o be_v many_o thousand_o more_o present_a which_o can_v hardly_o be_v the_o supposition_n of_o any_o consider_a man_n in_o the_o case_n in_o hand_n respon_n not_o to_o take_v much_o notice_n how_o far_o the_o probable_a opinion_n of_o some_o will_v be_v accept_v for_o proof_n against_o we_o when_o nothing_o but_o demonstration_n will_v be_v accept_v on_o our_o behalf_n i_o shall_v first_o demand_v of_o the_o querist_n that_o if_o the_o child_n and_o family_n of_o those_o that_o glad_o receive_v the_o word_n and_o be_v baptize_v be_v indeed_o part_n of_o that_o number_n of_o 3000._o that_o be_v add_v to_o the_o church_n or_o to_o the_o discsple_n as_o he_o say_v it_o be_v the_o probable_a opinion_n of_o some_o that_o they_o be_v than_o i_o demand_v i_o say_v whether_o these_o child_n and_o family_n be_v baptize_v or_o no_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v they_o be_v not_o 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it_o since_o we_o read_v of_o very_o foul_a evil_n in_o some_o of_o the_o primitive_a church_n themselves_o but_o do_v not_o find_v the_o sound_a party_n exhort_v to_o separate_v from_o the_o corrupt_a but_o to_o proceed_v against_o they_o in_o a_o churchway_n for_o their_o cure_n by_o admonition_n conviction_n and_o excommunication_n in_o case_n of_o obstinacy_n xviii_o querie_n answer_v what_o be_v say_v to_o the_o next_o precedent_n querie_n will_v be_v a_o full_a and_o pertinent_a answer_n to_o this_o and_o therefore_o shall_v say_v no_o more_o to_o it_o xix_o querie_n answer_v to_o this_o i_o say_v that_o whatever_o else_o a_o company_n of_o true_a believer_n have_v do_v yet_o if_o they_o have_v not_o do_v that_o which_o be_v necessary_a upon_o scripture-account_n to_o render_v themselves_o a_o true_a church_n according_a to_o gospel_n order_n than_o it_o be_v not_o unreasonable_a for_o a_o christian_n to_o deny_v they_o to_o be_v such_o a_o church_n but_o yet_o for_o all_o that_o 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as_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v gal._n 3.27_o and_o yet_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o they_o who_o so_o say_v do_v stumble_v at_o the_o same_o stone_n of_o danger_n and_o peril_n of_o soul_n at_o which_o the_o jew_n stumble_v if_o they_o be_v jew_n when_o they_o urge_v and_o practise_v circumcision_n as_o necessary_a for_o justification_n gal._n 5.2_o because_o they_o urge_v and_o practise_v that_o for_o necessary_a which_o be_v now_o abolish_v we_o that_o which_o be_v command_v and_o remain_v in_o force_n we_o urge_v baptism_n to_o be_v necessary_a as_o a_o precept_n of_o christ_n and_o necessary_a as_o a_o mean_n of_o salvation_n they_o perhaps_o judge_v circumcision_n as_o other_o work_n of_o the_o law_n meritorious_a according_a to_o the_o querist_n own_o declare_v judgement_a upon_o another_o occasion_n and_o therefore_o i_o doubt_v the_o querist_n do_v not_o deal_v so_o kind_o with_o the_o ordinance_n of_o baptism_n nor_o the_o baptist_n themselves_o as_o he_o shall_v do_v in_o 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much_o as_o ever_o any_o man_n do_v say_v in_o opposition_n to_o that_o practice_n for_o if_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n nor_o example_n in_o scripture_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o any_o person_n at_o any_o other_o time_n save_v at_o or_o about_o the_o time_n of_o their_o first_o entrance_n upon_o the_o profession_n of_o christ_n nor_o yet_o competent_a ground_n in_o reason_n or_o religion_n why_o it_o shall_v otherwise_o be_v practise_v then_o certain_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n or_o example_n in_o scripture_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n nor_o yet_o any_o competent_a ground_n why_o such_o a_o thing_n shall_v be_v practise_v and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o infant_n in_o their_o infancy_n can_v make_v no_o profession_n of_o christ_n nor_o do_v they_o in_o their_o infancy_n make_v any_o entrance_n upon_o a_o
the_o apostollicall_a writing_n be_v write_v of_o baptism_n be_v apparent_a that_o baptism_n be_v administer_v to_o none_o by_o the_o apostle_n but_o those_o of_o who_o they_o concern_v their_o regeneration_n make_v no_o doubt_n page_n 21._o cassander_n in_o libello_fw-la de_fw-la infantium_fw-la baptismo_fw-la it_o be_v certain_a that_o some_o believer_n in_o time_n past_a have_v withhold_v baptism_n from_o their_o child_n until_o they_o be_v grow_v and_o can_v understand_v and_o remember_v the_o mystery_n of_o their_o faith_n yea_o also_o counsel_v not_o to_o administer_v baptism_n as_o by_o tertullian_n and_o gregory_n nazianzen_n appear_v in_o same_o page_n zwinglius_fw-la in_o his_o book_n of_o article_n artic._n 18._o in_o the_o old_a time_n child_n be_v open_o instruct_v who_o when_o they_o come_v to_o understand_v be_v call_v catechuman_n i._n e_o such_o as_o be_v instruct_v in_o the_o word_n of_o salvation_n and_o when_o they_o have_v imprint_v the_o faith_n in_o their_o heart_n and_o make_v confession_n thereof_o with_o their_o mouth_n they_o be_v admit_v to_o baptism_n page_n 25._o lodovicus_n vives_fw-la in_o augustinum_n de_fw-la civetate_fw-la dei_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 26._o no_o man_n in_o time_n past_a be_v bring_v to_o be_v baptise_v but_o those_o who_o be_v come_v to_o their_o full_a growth_n who_o have_v learn_v what_o it_o concern_v of_o their_o own_o accord_n desire_v the_o same_o page_n 31._o luther_n in_o his_o book_n of_o annabaptisme_n acknowledge_v that_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o sacred_a scripture_n that_o child_n baptism_n be_v institute_v by_o christ_n or_o begin_v by_o the_o first_o christian_n after_o thâ—_n apostles_n page_n 20._o rupertus_n tuitienfis_n lib_n 4_o de_fw-la divinus_fw-la officiis_fw-la cap._n 18._o in_o former_a time_n the_o custom_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v that_o they_o administer_v not_o the_o sacrament_n oâ—_n regeneration_n but_o only_o at_o the_o feast_n of_o easter_n and_o penticost_n 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we_o be_v new_o bear_v be_v they_o also_o by_o new_a birth_n renew_v and_o then_o in_o call_v upon_o god_n the_o father_n the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n they_o be_v wash_v in_o water_n note_v that_o this_o author_n be_v one_o of_o the_o first_o extant_a after_o the_o apostle_n day_n take_v also_o a_o few_o instance_n of_o such_o who_o though_o bear_v of_o christian_a parent_n yet_o be_v not_o baptize_v till_o instruct_v in_o the_o faith_n page_n 16._o erasmus_n and_o wiclevius_n in_o vita_fw-la hieronomi_fw-la ex_fw-la ipsis_fw-la scriptis_fw-la collecta_fw-la hieronimus_fw-la bear_v in_o the_o city_n sydon_n of_o christian_a parent_n and_o bring_v up_o in_o the_o christian_a religion_n be_v baptize_v at_o rome_n in_o the_o 30_o year_n of_o his_o age_n also_o paulinus_n de_fw-fr vita_fw-la ambrosij_fw-la &_o nauclerus_fw-la chror_fw-la gener._n 13._o ambrose_n bear_v of_o christian_a parent_n his_o father_n name_n be_v ambrose_n and_o his_o mother_n name_n marcelina_n remain_v instruct_v in_o the_o faith_n unbaptise_v till_o he_o be_v choose_v bishop_n of_o milan_n at_o which_o time_n he_o receive_v baptism_n of_o a_o catholic_n priest_n likewise_o nauclerus_fw-la generate_v 14._o anno_fw-la dom._n 391._o augustinus_n the_o son_n of_o the_o virtuous_a monica_n be_v instruct_v in_o the_o faith_n be_v baptize_v when_o he_o be_v about_o 30_o year_n of_o age_n at_o the_o feast_n of_o easter_n moreover_o idem_n generate_v 14._o constantinus_n the_o emperor_n bear_v of_o helena_n the_o christian_a queen_n be_v by_o christian_a priest_n convert_v to_o the_o faith_n and_o be_v baptize_v by_o pope_n silvester_n historia_fw-la tripartita_fw-la lib._n 1._o bibliorum_fw-la de_fw-la trinitate_fw-la theodosius_n the_o emperor_n bear_v in_o spain_n his_o parent_n be_v both_o christian_n be_v even_o from_o his_o youth_n instruct_v and_o educate_v in_o the_o catholic_n faith_n who_o fal_v sick_a at_o thessalonia_n be_v by_o achalio_n bâ—shop_n of_o the_o city_n baptize_v and_o thereupon_o recover_v of_o his_o sickness_n page_n 21._o pontius_n the_o son_n of_o markus_n a_o christian_n be_v catechise_v and_o instruct_v in_o the_o christian_a religion_n and_o afterward_o be_v baptize_v by_o pontiano_n the_o bishop_n page_n 22._o nazarius_n the_o son_n of_o a_o christian_a woman_n call_v perpetua_fw-la embrace_v and_o follow_v his_o mother_n religion_n even_o from_o his_o tender_a age_n who_o be_v catechise_v &_o instruct_v by_o lino_n the_o pope_n receive_v also_o baptism_n also_o tecla_n and_o erasma_n daughter_n of_o valentinian_n a_o christâ—an_n of_o aquilea_n be_v in_o the_o day_n of_o nero_n the_o emperor_n instruct_v in_o the_o faith_n by_o their_o father_n and_o bring_v up_o in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n who_o be_v catechise_v by_o harmagora_n be_v baptize_v in_o a_o run_a water_n and_o now_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_n whether_o these_o testimony_n against_o the_o practice_n of_o baptise_v infant_n of_o old_a have_v not_o much_o more_o in_o they_o and_o be_v worthy_a of_o much_o more_o credit_n theâ—_n mr._n philpots_n testimony_n for_o it_o together_o with_o austin_n and_o jerom_n to_o help_v he_o xl._n querie_n answer_v 1._o whether_o faith_n or_o the_o profession_n of_o faith_n be_v the_o only_a or_o best_a ground_n whereon_o to_o build_v a_o baptismal_a administration_n we_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o dispute_v it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o accord_v to_o scripture_n it_o be_v such_o a_o ground_n as_o without_o which_o baptism_n be_v not_o administer_v to_o any_o that_o we_o can_v find_v in_o the_o apostle_n day_n and_o therefore_o we_o say_v neither_o ought_v it_o now_o so_o to_o be_v 2._o if_o the_o querist_n think_v that_o the_o apostle_n do_v insist_v upon_o believe_v or_o a_o profession_n of_o believe_v in_o such_o man_n and_o woman_n as_o be_v baptize_v by_o they_o only_o for_o want_v of_o better_a ground_n as_o suppose_v there_o be_v better_a to_o be_v have_v let_v he_o but_o prove_v it_o and_o i_o will_v think_v so_o too_o or_o else_o for_o my_o part_n i_o think_v they_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o expect_v better_a than_o those_o which_o be_v every_o way_n sufficient_a or_o then_o such_o as_o god_n have_v appoint_v for_o that_o purpose_n or_o if_o god_n do_v appoint_v any_o oâ—her_n why_o do_v not_o the_o querist_n produce_v we_o a_o copy_n of_o that_o order_n or_o appointmâ—nt_n of_o god_n 3._o the_o querist_n put_v the_o question_n whether_o faith_n or_o a_o profession_n of_o faith_n in_o order_n to_o baptism_n be_v insist_v on_o mere_o as_o or_o because_o such_o in_o their_o absolute_a or_o positive_a nature_n or_o whether_o not_o rather_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o relative_a nature_n and_o property_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o for_o my_o part_n i_o be_o of_o the_o querist_n mind_n as_o unto_o this_o that_o it_o be_v altogether_o irrational_a yea_o indeed_o i_o think_v a_o thing_n so_o irrational_a as_o never_o enter_v into_o any_o man_n head_n to_o think_v that_o faith_n or_o a_o profession_n of_o faith_n shall_v be_v require_v of_o man_n in_o order_n to_o baptism_n simple_o for_o faith_n sake_n or_o mere_o for_o profession_n sake_n 4._o but_o though_o we_o be_v not_o so_o absurd_a as_o to_o hold_v faith_n necessary_a to_o baptism_n only_o for_o faith_n sake_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o then_o we_o must_v needs_o hold_v with_o the_o querist_n that_o faith_n be_v no_o otherwise_o or_o in_o no_o other_o respect_n to_o be_v insist_v on_o as_o necessary_a to_o baptism_n but_o only_o as_o it_o be_v significative_a or_o declarative_a unto_o the_o baptizer_n and_o other_o of_o the_o happy_a estate_n of_o those_o in_o who_o faith_n be_v as_o be_v person_n in_o the_o grace_n and_o favour_n of_o god_n for_o if_o person_n be_v in_o a_o happy_a condition_n as_o touch_v god_n love_v to_o they_o be_v not_o the_o adequate_a reason_n why_o he_o wouâ—d_v have_v they_o baptised_a than_o the_o knowledge_n
such_o who_o ground_n on_o which_o they_o stand_v be_v truth_n though_o they_o ought_v with_o all_o sweetness_n love_n and_o meekness_n to_o invite_v and_o persuade_v other_o to_o come_v over_o to_o they_o yet_o may_v by_o no_o mean_n depart_v thence_o or_o remove_v their_o stand_n no_o though_o it_o be_v to_o gain_v other_o to_o they_o 1_o cor._n 9.21_o to_o they_o that_o be_v without_o law_n as_o without_o law_n be_v not_o without_o law_n to_o god_n but_o under_o the_o law_n to_o christ_n that_o i_o may_v gain_v they_o that_o be_v without_o law_n jer._n 15.19_o let_v they_o return_v to_o thou_o but_o return_v not_o thou_o unto_o they_o phil._n 3.15_o 16._o if_o in_o any_o thing_n you_o be_v otherwise_o mind_v god_n shall_v reveal_v even_o this_o unto_o you_o nevertheless_o whereto_o we_o have_v already_o attain_v let_v we_o walk_v by_o the_o same_o rule_n let_v we_o mind_v the_o same_o thing_n 6._o though_o endless_a genealogy_n and_o strive_v â—bout_o the_o law_n and_o the_o eat_n of_o meat_n and_o herb_n be_v but_o such_o thing_n and_o the_o truth_n concern_v they_o but_o of_o that_o nature_n as_o that_o for_o the_o sake_n thereof_o peace_n must_v not_o be_v break_v tit._n 3.9_o 1_o tim._n 1.4_o rom._n 14._o yet_o first_o such_o point_n or_o question_n as_o concern_v the_o fulfil_n of_o any_o righteousness_n of_o which_o those_o that_o concern_v the_o essential_o of_o baptism_n be_v mat._n 3.15_o be_v such_o as_o of_o which_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n do_v consist_v and_o in_o the_o defence_n of_o which_o man_n serve_v jesus_n christ_n and_o be_v accept_v with_o god_n and_o aught_o to_o be_v approve_v of_o man_n ronvere_n 14.17_o 18._o second_o not_o only_a gospel_n doctrine_n about_o matter_n of_o faith_n but_o also_o matter_n of_o gospel_n order_n such_o as_o the_o apostle_n call_v ordinance_n appointment_n or_o tradition_n 1_o cor._n 11.2_o even_o these_o be_v truth_n to_o be_v contend_v for_o and_o not_o to_o be_v let_v go_v for_o peace_n sake_n and_o the_o apostle_n think_v this_o a_o sufficient_a answer_n to_o such_o as_o shall_v contend_v against_o these_o viz._n that_o they_o have_v no_o such_o custom_n neither_o the_o church_n of_o god_n ver_fw-la 16._o with_o ver_fw-la 2_o 3_o 4_o 5._o etc._n etc._n and_o if_o the_o church_n of_o god_n then_o have_v no_o such_o custom_n neiâ—her_o as_o to_o sprinkle_v or_o baptise_v little_a child_n or_o to_o admit_v member_n to_o church-communion_n without_o baptism_n do_v not_o the_o apostle_n say_v here_o though_o produce_v upon_o another_o occasion_n evince_v their_o contention_n sinful_a and_o unreasonable_a likewise_o that_o shall_v plead_v for_o and_o practice_v such_o thing_n as_o these_o contrary_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o first_o church_n which_o in_o all_o laudable_a thing_n be_v pattern_n to_o all_o succeed_a church_n the_o apostle_n have_v in_o 2_o thes_n 2._o give_v notice_n of_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n itâ—_n begin_v then_o to_o work_v ver_fw-la 7._o and_o the_o come_n of_o the_o man_n of_o sin_n with_o all_o deceiveableness_n of_o unrighteousness_n ver_fw-la 10._o which_o we_o know_v in_o the_o papal_a apostasy_n have_v fall_v out_o as_o well_o in_o matter_n of_o gospel_n order_n as_o in_o point_n of_o faith_n he_o to_o prevent_v a_o defection_n in_o both_o exhort_v they_o for_o 15._o to_o stand_v fast_o and_o to_o hold_v the_o tradition_n which_o they_o have_v be_v teach_v yea_o and_o in_o chap._n 3._o v._n 6._o count_n that_o a_o disorderly_a walk_n which_o be_v not_o after_o the_o tradition_n which_o they_o have_v receive_v from_o the_o apostle_n and_o if_o it_o be_v the_o wisdom_n and_o duty_n of_o the_o church_n then_o to_o stand_v fast_o and_o to_o hold_v fast_o the_o tradition_n which_o they_o have_v receive_v from_o the_o apostle_n as_o well_o touch_v matter_n of_o gospel_n order_n as_o otherwise_o to_o prevent_v their_o fall_n into_o anti-christian_n pollution_n then_o doubtless_o the_o way_n for_o man_n now_o to_o recover_v themselves_o and_o other_o from_o under_o those_o pollution_n be_v by_o return_v back_o to_o these_o apostolical_a tradition_n and_o stand_v fast_o in_o they_o which_o doubtless_o be_v their_o duty_n what_o disturbance_n soever_o may_v follow_v thereupon_o errata_fw-la page_n 9_o l._n 15._o r._n those_o particular_a case_n p._n 25._o l._n 21._o r._n neither_o p._n 44._o l._n 13_o r._n a_o p._n 49._o l._n 25._o r._n suppose_v p._n 52._o l._n 1_o r._n formal_o ib._n l._n 4._o r._n be_v p._n 55._o l._n 16._o r._n such_o as_o have_v p._n 55_o l._n 24._o r._n the_o time_n of_o his_o baptism_n p._n 57_o l._n 25._o r._n and_o p._n 58._o l._n 24._o r._n of_o 59_o l._n 4._o r._n describe_v p._n 59_o l._n 32._o r._n those_o p._n 60._o l._n 6_o r._n word_n p._n 61._o l._n 16._o r._n line_n p._n 61._o l._n 26._o r._n of_o p._n 61._o l._n 28._o r._n when_o p._n 63._o l._n 3._o r._n 2_o p._n 64._o l._n 14._o r._n unreasonable_a p._n 66._o l._n 1._o r._n much_o ib._n l._n 2._o r._n bapti_fw-la ib._n l._n 14._o r._n meet_v p._n 69._o l._n 26._o r._n about_o p._n 72._o l._n 12._o r._n charge_v p._n 72._o l._n 19_o r._n those_o p._n 72._o l._n 19_o r._n practise_v a_o answer_n to_o mr._n i._o g._n his_o xl._n query_n touch_v church-communion_n between_o such_o as_o have_v be_v baptize_v after_o they_o have_v believe_v and_o other_o who_o have_v not_o otherwise_o be_v baptize_v then_o in_o their_o jnfancie_n as_o likewise_o touch_v infant_n and_o after_o baptism_n the_o thought_n of_o the_o worthy_a author_n of_o the_o book_n entitle_v philadelphia_n touch_v the_o subject_a matter_n of_o that_o book_n be_v propound_v queriâ—-wise_a there_o be_v i_o suppose_v little_a question_n to_o be_v make_v but_o that_o it_o be_v with_o a_o expectation_n on_o his_o part_n to_o receive_v a_o return_n from_o the_o hand_n of_o some_o friend_n or_o other_o in_o order_n to_o a_o further_a discovery_n of_o truth_n in_o that_o particular_a case_n of_o conscience_n about_o which_o the_o query_n be_v 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of_o edification_n and_o yet_o neither_o be_v most_o edify_v nor_o yet_o matter_n of_o spiritual_a detriment_n unless_o the_o comparative_n of_o less_o and_o more_o be_v not_o in_o use_n in_o those_o day_n i_o will_v willing_o grant_v that_o the_o whole_a ministration_n of_o moses_n be_v edify_v to_o a_o degree_n and_o therefore_o circumcision_n also_o though_o administer_v to_o infant_n in_o some_o respect_n or_o other_o but_o i_o shall_v withal_o deny_v that_o it_o or_o circumcision_n as_o administer_v to_o infant_n be_v most_o edify_a for_o than_o it_o shall_v have_v remain_v still_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v heb._n 8.7_o if_o that_o first_o covenant_n have_v be_v faultless_a then_o shall_v no_o place_n have_v be_v seek_v for_o the_o second_o it_o be_v then_o because_o of_o that_o little_a low_a and_o mean_a degree_n of_o spiritual_a benefit_n or_o edification_n that_o be_v to_o be_v have_v by_o circumcision_n as_o administer_v to_o infant_n or_o by_o other_o rite_n or_o ordinance_n of_o the_o law_n that_o the_o same_o be_v abrogate_a and_o make_v void_a as_o be_v most_o evident_a also_o by_o that_o other_o say_v of_o the_o apostle_n heb._n 7.18.19_o for_o there_o be_v very_o a_o disannul_n of_o the_o commandment_n go_v before_o for_o the_o weakness_n and_o unprofitablenesse_n of_o it_o for_o the_o law_n make_v nothing_o perfect_a if_o so_o be_v it_o not_o most_o unreasonable_a to_o say_v that_o the_o law_n or_o any_o part_n of_o it_o and_o particular_o circumcision_n as_o administer_v to_o infant_n be_v most_o edify_a or_o if_o it_o be_v most_o edify_v according_a to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o god_n dispensation_n for_o the_o time_n then_o be_v be_v there_o any_o show_n or_o appearance_n of_o reason_n in_o it_o that_o a_o administration_n to_o infant_n must_v be_v most_o edify_v now_o under_o the_o gospel_n because_o such_o a_o thing_n be_v the_o most_o edify_a way_n which_o god_n be_v please_v to_o vouchsafe_v the_o church_n in_o her_o nonage_n under_o the_o law_n when_o as_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o as_o edify_v as_o it_o be_v it_o be_v disannul_v for_o the_o unprofitablenesse_n of_o it_o 4._o what_o ever_o the_o confidence_n of_o the_o querist_n be_v to_o the_o contrary_a yet_o there_o be_v not_o only_o a_o colour_n of_o reason_n but_o the_o substance_n or_o reason_n also_o why_o baptism_n shall_v not_o be_v so_o edify_v as_o to_o its_o end_n â—hen_o administer_v to_o infant_n as_o circumcisian_n be_v and_o may_v be_v as_o to_o its_o end_n when_o it_o be_v administer_v to_o infant_n because_o circumcision_n be_v no_o such_o transient_a act_n as_o baptism_n be_v but_o such_o as_o remain_v a_o permanent_a sign_n in_o the_o flesh_n as_o a_o visible_a matter_n of_o signification_n and_o instruction_n to_o the_o party_n circumcise_v all_o his_o day_n gen._n 17.13_o which_o be_v a_o thing_n that_o no_o man_n can_v affirm_v of_o infant_n baptism_n xxiv_o querie_n answer_v that_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n in_o the_o apostle_n day_n be_v not_o sufficient_o or_o at_o all_o signify_v by_o those_o scripture_n which_o mention_v the_o baptise_v of_o household_n act_n 16.15.33_o 1_o cor._n 1.16_o will_v sufficient_o appear_v 1._o because_o the_o household_n who_o be_v baptise_a be_v record_v be_v only_o but_o three_o it_o may_v with_o as_o good_a probability_n be_v affirm_v that_o there_o be_v no_o little_a child_n in_o they_o as_o that_o there_o be_v and_o in_o that_o respect_n we_o be_v upon_o equal_a ground_n with_o our_o friend_n in_o deny_v what_o they_o take_v liberty_n only_o to_o suppose_v 2._o if_o there_o be_v infant_n in_o those_o household_n yet_o the_o word_n house_n or_o household_n in_o scripture_n frequent_o import_v not_o all_o and_o every_o individual_a soul_n in_o the_o house_n but_o either_o the_o major_a part_n or_o so_o many_o of_o the_o house_n which_o according_a to_o common_a reason_n be_v to_o be_v suppose_v capable_a of_o those_o affirmation_n that_o be_v make_v concern_v they_o 1_o sam._n 1.21_o 22._o gen._n 50.4_o &_o 35.2_o 2_o sam._n 3.1_o jer._n 35.3.18_o mat._n 10.13_o &_o 12.35_o john_n 4.53_o act_n 18.8_o &_o 10.2_o josh_n 24.15_o 2_o tim._n 4.19_o rom._n 16.10_o 11._o and_o according_o must_v those_o scripture_n be_v understand_v where_o household_n be_v say_v to_o be_v baptise_a 3._o in_o that_o it_o be_v say_v concern_v one_o of_o the_o three_o household_n who_o baptism_n be_v record_v that_o the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v speak_v to_o they_o and_o that_o they_o believe_v act_v 16.34_o and_o of_o another_o that_o they_o addict_v themselves_o to_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o saint_n 1_o cor._n 16.15_o with_o chap._n 1._o v._n 16._o it_o be_v evident_a that_o either_o there_o be_v no_o infant_n in_o those_o household_n or_o else_o that_o when_o they_o speak_v of_o household_n they_o mean_v only_o such_o of_o they_o as_o have_v attain_v the_o age_n of_o so_o much_o understanding_n as_o to_o do_v hear_v and_o believe_v such_o thing_n as_o be_v incompetible_a to_o 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