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A08329 The pseudo-scripturist. Or A treatise wherein is proued, that the wrytten Word of God (though most sacred, reuerend, and diuine) is not the sole iudge of controuersies, in fayth and religion Agaynst the prime sectaries of these tymes, who contend to maintayne the contrary. Written by N.S. Priest, and Doctour of Diuinity. Deuided into two parts. And dedicated to the right honorable, and reuerned iudges of England, and the other graue sages of the law. S. N. (Sylvester Norris), 1572-1630. 1623 (1623) STC 18660; ESTC S120360 119,132 166

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of_o sin_n etc._n etc._n and_o hence_o of_o necessity_n must_v arise_v in_o the_o heart_n of_o man_n manifest_a blasphemy_n against_o god_n the_o say_a author_n 267._o author_n ibid._n in_o conclus_fw-la p._n 267._o in_o the_o same_o book_n say_v also_o thus_o let_v any_o godly_a or_o friendly_a reader_n whatsoever_o think_v what_o deadly_a poison_n do_v pour_v itself_o into_o man_n under_o the_o caluinian_a doctrine_n by_o which_o all_o christianisme_n almost_o be_v overthrow_v 6._o brentius_n prophetar_n brentius_n in_o recognit_v prophetar_n say_v all_o the_o zwinglians_n work_n be_v full_a of_o depravation_n cunninge_n deceit_n and_o slander_n westphalus_n 19_o westphalus_n apolog_fw-la cont_n caluin_n p._n 430._o c._n 19_o report_v that_o all_o the_o caluinian_a work_n be_v stuff_v with_o taunt_n curse_n and_o lie_v and_o he_o further_o affirm_v that_o he_o be_v able_a to_o show_v certain_a page_n of_o caluins_n work_n of_o which_o every_o one_o contain_v above_o 30._o notable_a lie_n and_o taunt_n conradus_n schlusselb_n caluinist_n schlusselb_n in_o praefat_fw-la theo_fw-la caluinist_n protest_v that_o the_o caluiniste_n do_v nourish_v arian_n and_o turkish_a impiety_n in_o their_o heart_n which_o do_v not_o seldom_o at_o fit_a time_n open_o disclose_v itself_o 7._o stankarus_fw-la 4._o stankarus_fw-la contra_fw-la caluin_n k._n 4._o thus_o write_v to_o caluin_n what_o devil_n o_o caluin_n have_v seduce_v thou_o to_o speak_v with_o arius_n against_o the_o son_n of_o god_n &c_n &c_n and_o after_o the_o say_v lutheran_n conclude_v beware_v o_o christian_n reader_n and_o especial_o all_v you_o minister_n beware_v of_o the_o book_n of_o caluin_n and_o principal_o in_o the_o article_n of_o the_o trinity_n incarnation_n mediator_n the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n hunnius_n depravation_n hunnius_n in_o ●his_fw-la epist_n dedicatory_a of_o the_o confut_o of_o caluins_n depravation_n charge_v caluin_n that_o he_o wre_v the_o scripture_n horrible_o from_o the_o true_a sense_n to_o the_o overthrow_n of_o himself_o and_o other_o and_o thus_o pass_v over_o the_o censure_n which_o the_o book_n caluinus_fw-la judaizans_fw-la &_o caluino-papismus_a afford_v against_o he_o as_o also_o omit_v many_o other_o lutheran_n writing_n against_o caluin_n and_o his_o sect_n and_o leave_v out_o of_o the_o former_a lutheran_n for_o brevity_n sake_n infinite_a other_o most_o notorious_a passage_n direct_v to_o the_o same_o purpose_n this_o already_o set_v down_o shall_v suffice_v concern_v their_o condemnation_n of_o he_o &_o the_o sacramentary_n 9_o now_o let_v we_o see_v on_o the_o contrary_a side_n how_o the_o sacramentary_n do_v bear_v themselves_o towards_o luther_n and_o the_o lutheran_n content_v ourselves_o with_o the_o same_o few_o place_n only_o of_o their_o censure_n which_o may_v serve_v for_o a_o taste_n of_o the_o rest_n 10._o and_o first_o zuinglius_fw-la 459._o zuinglius_fw-la tom._n 2._o in_o respon_n ad_fw-la luther_n confess_v fol._n 458._o &_o 459._o call_v luther_n martion_n &_o further_o say_v that_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o high_a blasphemy_n against_o the_o nature_n &_o essence_n of_o god_n in_o that_o he_o teach_v that_o christ_n die_v according_a to_o his_o divinity_n he_o further_o thus_o speak_v of_o luther_n touch_v the_o same_o point_n this_o can_v be_v by_o no_o reason_n explain_v or_o excuse_v for_o luther_n clear_o and_o manifest_o confess_v that_o he_o will_v not_o acknowledge_v christ_n to_o be_v his_o saviour_n if_o only_o his_o humanity_n have_v suffer_v zuinglius_fw-la 401._o zuinglius_fw-la in_o respon_n ad_fw-la luther_n l._n de_fw-fr sacram._n fol._n 401._o also_o writing_n in_o another_o place_n against_o luther_n doctrine_n thus_o say_v thou_o luther_n shall_v be_v force_v either_o to_o deny_v the_o whole_a scripture_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n or_o to_o acknowledge_v martion_n heresy_n 11._o caluin_n 16._o caluin_n instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 17._o §._o 16._o speak_v of_o luther_n heresy_n say_v by_o the_o lutheran_n martion_n be_v raise_v out_o of_o hell_n and_o in_o another_o place_n westphalum_fw-la place_n admonit_fw-la 3._o ad_fw-la westphalum_fw-la caluin_n say_v the_o lutheran_n be_v forger_n and_o liar_n 12._o joannes_n campanus_n aduersar_n campanus_n in_o colloq_fw-la lat_fw-la luther_n tom._n 2._o c._n de_fw-fr aduersar_n a_o sacramentary_a say_v as_o certain_a as_o god_n be_v god_n so_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o luther_n be_v a_o devilish_a liar_n 13._o last_o for_o great_a contraction_n of_o this_o point_n oecolampadius_n affirm_v that_o the_o lutheran_n bring_v forth_o only_o a_o colour_n or_o shadow_n as_o heretic_n common_o be_v accustom_v to_o do_v of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n they_o bring_v not_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o yet_o will_v seem_v to_o lancthonen_fw-mi to_o dialog_n count_v me._n lancthonen_fw-mi build_v upon_o the_o word_n of_o god_n see_v with_o what_o full_a &_o intemperate_a term_n they_o do_v interchange_v one_o another_o now_o as_o we_o have_v see_v the_o lutheran_n condemn_v the_o sacramentary_n for_o their_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n and_o these_o they_o again_o so_o neither_o of_o