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A89851 A second answer to Thomas Moore, to that which he calls, his Defence against the poyson, &c. Wherein is shewed the crooked wayes, the Serpent is forced to take to keep God and his creatures at a distance, and yet would do it under the name of a teacher. But is seen to be the same, that perswaded man out from his guide in spirit, and now would keep him so, lest his unclean wayes in the heart of man should be discovered with the spiritual light of Christ; and so man should turn to the Lord, who is that spirit, and the vail be done away, ... Here is also 54. lies gathered out from amongst a multitude more, with T.M. hath heaped up for his defence, against the truth, which he calles the poyson of Satan, which are sent him back to the 48. that I sent him before, that he may either prove them, or they root with the founder, for the truth they touch not. / Set forth to clear the truth from this froth, cast upon it by the enemy thereof, By a friend to the seed of truth, called James Naylor. Naylor, James, 1617?-1660. 1656 (1656) Wing N314; Thomason E868_9; ESTC R202991 29,892 39

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laid down if thou intends any to believe thee therein and this is like the rest of thy stuffe out of the dark bottle fit for such a believer to receive then grounds● of whose faith are other mens words from their Imaginations where the word of God is personally absent and know neither light nor spirit of God within them And much adoe thou makes and many crooked wayes thou takes to preach Jerusalem out of this world and that must be alwayes to come and that yet it came not from God to any and to disprove that which John spoke in Rev. 21. 2. 10. who saw the new Jerusalem thou sayst that was but a Vision and from that thou conjurest up a deal of thy own filth to cast upon me not worth mentioning after thee but this I say to thee thou must first see thy self in Babylon yea and the slandeous mouth slopt ere thou knowest the new Jerusalem the City of God or his dwelling place the lyars and 〈◊〉 are with one and now it is seen in the Mount of God asking of Vision seen by others but the strong man keeping the house and thou joyned with him so bring forth his works opposing thy self an enemy of Sion and her Children who are come and comming to their rest which thou would destroy the faith concerning God Christ the word their In-dwelling in the Saints as in thy first Book who would deny that the Apostles preached the word and faith in the hearr And when I instanced that place Rom. 10. 8 9. where the Apostle saith The word of faith is migh in the heart In this book thou would'st cast a mist before it least any should look for it there saying he saith not the word and faith but the word of faith And sayst thou he saith not simply in their hearts but nigh them in their hearts What shifts is the Devil put to to keep Creatures from looking what God hath placed in their hearts where God hath written his Law and placed his word a guide to all that minde it what shameful shifts art thou put to lest the Devil should be discovered in the heart and his Kingdom fall Is not the word and faith where the word of faith is if ever that Creature come to faith or can any have either of them but in their hearts And doth not the Apostle say they are in their hearts because he saith they are nigh them in their hearts But from the word nigh if thy divination fail not thou wilt attempt to preach them clear out of the heart so that which the Apostle saith nigh in the heart by thy will must never come near the heart but would put word and faith as far off as thou hast put Grace and Light who saith The Grace of God that bringeth salvation teacheth not to look to any light within for direction And as thou dealest concerning God Christ The word Faith and light so dost thou with the City of the living God being blinde thy self would keep all at a distance from others such are thy Visions such as thy Imaginations But seeing thou would put that Jerusalem John saw out of the expectations of any whilest the world stands Read Heb. 12. 22. And judge if thou canst of that Heavenly Jerusalem whether that was a Vision also and whether the Apostle spoke truth when he said the Hebrews was come to the City of the living God to the Heavenly Jerusalem salem but they had denyed Babels Builders and the Idoll-Priests and their Idoll-worship else could not they have seen an entrance into Sion a City which thou hast sufficiently cleared thy self to be ignorant of And thou askest where did James read of its being taken away after its comming down from Heaven I say in thee I read it and thy Generation whose work is to deny it present I need go no further for proof then thy own Books As for the rest of thy heap of confusion thy lies thy slanders and thy threatnings be they to thy self for me they touch not but seeing thou denyest Jerusalem what City was that the Ephesians was Citizens of with the Saints which was builded upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophers Jesus Christ himself being the chief Corner-stone in whom they was builded a habitation of God Ephes 2. 19. 20 21 22. was not this the City of the living God the new Jerusalem but this makes ill for thy Doctrine whose work is to preach God out of his people yet when thou writest again let us see what a shift the Serpent hath to avoid this for he must be discovered in all his holes and thou canst not hide him Yet didst thou but declare thy own experience I should not contend with thee knowing thou canst declare no more of God his word his light his faith his dwelling place then thou knowest But seeing thou goes about to limit God out of his dwelling in the hearts of his people in faithfulness to God and love to souls I can do no lesse then bear testimony against thee and thy work which is contrary to the Ministers of Christ who preached reconciliation to God and God in his people but thou preaches division and separation and thy work is against any believing reconciliation And because I tell thee of thy shuffling in thy Answer to thy third Query which asks Where the Covenant of God is having respect to the manifestation of it to the Creature for so is the intent of the Query And because I tell thee thou shuffles and answers not to the Question thou tells me therein I have crodden undersoot the Son of God and put him to open shame and that there is no more sacrifice for sin I say it is thy deceit I tread upon and puts to open shame which is for open shame before the Son of God who is the Sacrifice and remains a Witness against thy confusion The fourth Query thou pretended to answer asks What and where that anointing is c. And because I tell thee thou would'st put that to literal teaching thou rakes up a Seal of thy own Imaginations out of thy own bosome to cast upon me as though I had said That the name of God in Christ Jesus is no better then literal Teaching when my Answer is to reprove thee for setting litteral-teaching instead of the Unction and Name of Christ And that thou do'st thrust out from the Spirit within to the Litteral-teaching thy Answer doth clearly manifest though first to cover it with thou makes a Confession to the person of Christ and such like words to blind the eye lest thy intent should be seen Afterward thou comes to tell what the summe of this Anointing is the sum of the Gospel concerning Christ which thou saist is meant the things heard from the beginning called the Anointing which after thou brings to the writings of Paul to Timothy And following it a little further thou brings it to be the same to this day which is
thy book which I plainly laid down to see if thou would'st plainly oppose them as thou hadst secretly sought to undermine them that so the Serpent might be brought out of his holes and discovered in the sight of the simple which now thou casts thy venom at them calling it a Wolf but dar'st not deny one of them And because they may stand as Witnesses against thy deceit in this book as they did in the other and seeing this may come to the hands of some which the other does not I am free to send them to thee again and to all the world and do not call them Woolfs till thou hast so proved them neither seek to cast thy dirt upon them by shuffling them out of their place and seek to make people believe I mean another thing then I speak so turning the truth into a lye before thou dare encounter with it that being thy old way by which thou hast raised these lying slanders in thy book not having a ground for raising a slander from any thing that I have spoken in it till thou hast taken it one piece from another and thrust in thy own Forgeries and Meanings to make some shew unto people to cover thy nakedness without which as it appears thou durst not meddle to oppose these Truths though they be much in thy way which are as followeth 1 That the light of Christ is the first principle that shews a man his condition and leads to Christ the Saviour and without it the Gospel is hid from every Creature living and without it none can read with profit 2 That though Christ Jesus in himself hath suffered and satisfied the whole will of God for all the world yet none but who by faith in this comes to receive a measure of the same Christ in the same spirit and power and life in them can have redemption by him from sin and death 3 That the Word of God is spiritual and who hath it hath it in their heart and that none who hath it not in their hearts hath eternal life though they may have the letter as the Devil hath to pervert to wrong ends to plead for sin and tempt the sons of God 4 That none can understand the Scriptures nor know the voice of Christ in them but who have that spirit and light in them that gave them forth to open their understanding to know the mystery and life of them 5 That no man knows his own heart but who first owns the light of Christ to search it and the same light that searches the heart gives light to know God and his glory 6 That the least measure of living faith that is not a fancy but stands in Christ Jesus is present power against all sinne and the greatest power of Satan if the Creature abide faithful in it and run to no other helps but mind obedience in it 7 That no man can be a Minister of Christ nor preach him truly but who preacheth perfection and that is the end of his Ministry which thou callest a Doctrine of Devils 8 That there is not one particular of the worship you perform in your high places but it is added or altered from what it was when Christ appointed it and established it 9 That God and his Word is now manifest in the bodies of his Saints in the same manner and as freely as formerly he hath been and that there he is a sufficient Teacher and shield against sinne without any other help to all according to the measure of their knowledge of him present 10 That no man can receive the things of Gods spirit but who minde somewhat of God in them to receive it withall 11 That the least measure of Gods spirit is an infallible guide and without it no man knows Christ nor can judge of any thing of God or his truth his Kingdom or the way to it or the Devil and his subtleties but lies open to be deceived in all things and to be led by men of corrupt minds in whom the Devil is 12 That the ground of all Errors Sects and Opinions Heresies and Blasphemies that are in the world is in being led from the guidance of this spirit and all live in error but who are guided by it but none ever errs who was guided by it alone nor ever shall These being the main things for which thou accuses us in thy book having wrested them contrary to our judgment and practice thereby to darken the way of truth more dear to me then life to the end that all may find it and rest to their souls I have laid them down as plain as I can as they are in Jesus in me revealed without any adding or diminishing as in the sight of God so when thou writes to oppose again let it be plain to the people whether thou owns or denies so the difference may be judged with the truly wise in heart and the ground of it nad do not cast a mist over the truth as in thy book and yet dare neither own nor deny but secretly bite and devour Here is also some of thy lies sent back to the Authour and when thou provest them I shall make my defence till then let them rot with the raiser of them which are as followeth 1 That I own my self to be one of those that sleight and reject the word of the Lord. 2 That the way of lying proud boasting and false accusing is the perfection of our Doctrine and Principles 3 That I own Some other spirit then that in and with the Scriptures as Gods Spirit 4 That we would present men perfect in themselves while there is nothing perfect that so they may not look to the perfection of Christ 5 That we promise others liberty freedom from sin glorious Conquest in themselves 6 That we count that sin that is looking to that Jesus which is the very Christ 7 That we never make it our work in our speakings or writings to preach lift up or commend that Jesus as he is in that one personall body c. 8 That we preach not Jesus and the Resurrection as the Apostles did 9 That we make up our whole Doctrine and matter without that which God hath laid in Zion for a foundation 10 That we magnifie not the Son of Man 11 That I assert nothing in my Book of that Jesus of Nazareth in that which he hath done c 12 That I array Christ as Herod did that I may marre his visage and mock at him 13 That in my Book I say I am Christ and that we leave nothing of the Declarations of hope that we so invert not 14 That if any do preach things according to Scripture we revile it as the Heathen reviled the Apostles for preaching Jesus and the Resurrection 15 That I am a denyer of Christ as Judas was 16 That we make not Jesus the sum and subject matter of our preaching 17 That we pervert all those Scriptures that speak of
believed or received in others thou hast sufficiently manifested herein if thou hadst said no more nor did the Apostle speak of them that minded the light or spirit within but of them that minded earthly things minding your bellies more then the work of God as thou and thy Companions did at the dispute who broke it up because it was an hour past dinner time such are belly Gods and not they who minde the light or spirit of Christ within them And let all honest people judge what it is thy deceitful lips will not make the Scriptures speak who would make the sence of the Apostles words to intend against minding a spirituall light within whose words is of such as minde earthly things yet in this as in all other of thy deceits which thou darst not plainly a vouch thou so layes down the thing as to leave thy self a way to escape if thou be taxed for thy falshood as by thy words some pretended light opposed to Christ when any may see thy envy is at the light of Christ and his spirit within for no other do we pretend and this is not opposire to Christ as he is in Heaven but the only thing that revealeth him in spirit And thou layest down two Reasons to prove thy deceits which no Scripture will the first opposing that the Apostle did mean Earth-worms in a grosse and carnall sence and in thy second thou sayst they were walkers Brethren they had not such a form of godliness as stood in talking only but in walking also In the first whereof thou strikest at the Apostles words who said they minded earthly things but thou sayst not Earth-worms and in thy second thou strikes at uptight walking yet doth neither of them prove any thing for the further then thy confusion And thou wouldst prove me to be one whose God is my belly and the thing thou wouldst prove it withall is because I say the Apostles preached the spirit and light within shining in their hearts to give the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus and this Treasure they had in Earthen Vessels but if angred 2 Cor. 4. 6 7. they may see that instead of proving me one whose God is my belly thou hast proved thy self one whose Father is the Devill who saith the Apostle saith no such thing but saith it s my spirit of Antichrist so let plain Scripture judge which is good reason that it should be believed before thy lying spirit who goeth on to deny the spirit and light to shine into their hearts as though God would shine into their hearts without his spirit and light and such dark stuffe thou utters who knowest not his spirit and light mangling thy confusions to darken the truth as though I had said their hearts should give them the glory of God without his light and spirit when my words are with the Apostle and all the Servants of God who witness the light and spirit to give the knowledge of God without which there can be no knowledge of God which Treasure is in the Earthen Vessels which words thou leavest out lest they should have spoyled thy design in perverting the words and deceiving the simple And thou makest much adoe in thy Book to drive a believers light far distant without as far from them as to the place where Christ was crucified saying he that was crucified on the Tree was the fountain of Believers light which though he be the fountain to those who have him in them yet is he known to none but by hear-say who have him not to such the fountain is sealed therefore dost thou blind utter forth so much of thy folly who imagineth a fountain without thee but darkness within which cannot comprehend the light though in the darkness it shine and the Devill himself knowes what was done upon Mount Calvary and the wickedst men in the Nation as well as thee who hast it not in thee so you believe in a Tradition who have not the Revelation And thou makes a babling to blinde people with as that the Apostle preached not the Earthen Vessels or themselves I say those are thy own words for none else I know that intends them or mentions them but the most of thy bustling in thy Book is to wrest my words or to add to them thy own and so start a lye out of thy own bosom and when thou hast done much to do thou makes to conflite it and this pleaseth thy fancy as though thou hadst done some great thing when thou hast but confuted thy self and laid open thy solly And thou goest creeping about to make people believe that Christ is not a spirit but darst not deny it yet as thy manner is casts a mist before it Christ in spirit being that thou seeks most to oppose for nothing else discovereth the 2 Cor. 5 16. Devills seat in man and therefore said the Apostle I know him no more after the flesh and When they shall turn to the Lord the vail shall be taken away now the Lord is that spirit and where the spirit of the Lord is there is liberty 2 Cor. 3. 16 17 but this liberty breaketh the Devills Kingdom therefore his Ministers he sets to keep people without in the letter imagining a thing at a distance but to believe the appearance of Christ in spirit that is death to him and his Ministry and whereas thou tells of Christ being glorified in Heaven in your nature I say Christ was never of the nature of the lyer neither in Heaven nor on Earth though he was flesh yet it was not that which lusteth against the spirit none knowes his flesh nor nature but who knowes the word in them which thou opposeth which art full of the old Leaven and thou askestance a question of the Scriptures say the same so take thy Question back and apply it to thy self In thy first Book thou made an objection Can flesh and blood enter into the Kingdom of Heaven and thou answers No yet the same flesh and bones may the blood being powred out and gone to which answer what confused stuffe is this that proceeds from thy imaginations Is Christ ascended without blood or is it onely the blood of people that keeps the in from ascending which they must leave behinde them taking the same flesh and bones but not the same blood and in this Book thou excuses the matter with saying he is ascended without material blood and yet with the vertues of that blood I say again hath he materiall flesh and bones and not materiall blood then is he not the same that he was when he was upon earth But why dost thou not make some answer to thy other clause how people must do to get shut of their blood seeing thy faith is they cannot ascend till their blood be poured forth This being a new Doctrine which the Scripture doth not declare of it stands in need of better grounds then yet thou hast