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A54213 The skirmisher defeated and truth defended being an answer to a pamphlet, entituled, A skirmish made upon Quakerism / by William Penn. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1676 (1676) Wing P1364; ESTC R21605 31,443 43

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pretended Minister of the Gospel to have consulted before he had engaged himself upon so strange a Skirmish That this Injury done me may more distinctly appear I shall here set down once more I hope without Offence to the Reader the present Parson's Text not his Sermon that 's too tedious No Command in the Scripture is any further obliging upon any Man then as he finds a Conviction upon his Conscience It is Conviction that can only oblige to Obedience When any Man is convinced that what was commanded another is required of him then and not till then he is rightly authorized to perform it I omit to mention his Comment but every Thing that is vicious prophane and diabolical he makes to follow upon those Premises That my Reader may the better see whether my Matter and Design at large merits any such Constructions I chuse to insert and that as the best and briefest Way the 5th Chapter of my Rejoynder to J. Faldo which contains his Charge and Proof my Answer thus pared and patched by J. C. his Reply and my Rejoynder as a more compleat Defence of E. B's and my Assertion against the vile Interpretations of J. Faldo so dexterously followed by J. C. and therefore equally fit for him Here follows the 5th Chapter of my Rejoynder to J. F. containing a Vindication of my Doctrine from any such Evil Consequences as are by I. C. charged upon it with this further Advertisement that the Reader observe that those Lines of Capital Letters are the Passages quoted by I. C. and all the rest of my Answer in the Common Letter with Comma's on the sides herein recited and much more is wilfully omitted by my Adversary also the Reader is desired to consider of the Marginal Notes by which he will be help't to understand the Disingenuity of I. C. against me my Friends and our holy Profession Of Scripture-Commands what are binding and what not Our Adversary's Disingenuity observed BUt however he has fail'd in his last Chapter doubtless he thinks he has done my Business in this he begins like himself Rep. My Charge and Argument in this Chapter is The Quakers affirm the Doctrines Commands Promises holy Examples expressed in Scripture as such not to be at all binding to us such an Argument and so proved by me mark Reader as a Thousand Penns can never invalid it Rejoyn What can there be more conceited then this He must live very lonely and far from Neighbours that proclaims so much Praise to himself and have wonderful Confidence to bid Defiance so vainly to others Reader I beseech thee for the Truth 's sake on whose side soever thou shalt find it to be to examine with all Impartiallity his Charge our Answer his Reply and our Rejoynder If his Honesty Reason and Justice hold any Proportion to his great Confidence we yield But if upon an impartial Consideration he shall be found to clip and pervert our Matter and to shuffle with us in his own once do a poor People Right in giving Judgment against this horrible Injustice The Charge thou hast heard the Proof was this That is no Command of God to me what he commanded to another Did any of the Saints which we read of act by that Command which was to another not having the Command to themselve c. Now before I give my Answer as it was set down in my Book I shall insert his Quotation of my Answer Rep To this saith P. I answer briefly and plainly and he is as good as his word No Commands saith he in the Scripture are any further obliging upon any Man then as he finds a Conviction upon his Conscience otherwise men should be engaged without if not against Conviction a thing unreasonable in a Man Rejoyn He has a notable way of Contracting his Adversary's Answers I will set down what I writ faithfully plainly and briefly Edward Burroughs's Expression may be taken two wayes and both safe enough to the Honour and Credit of the Scripture though not to the Charity or Honesty of J. Faldo Now follows that part he cited NO COMMAND IN THE SCRIPTURE IS ANY FURTHER OBLIGING UPON ANY MAN THEN AS HE FINDS A CONVICTION UPON HIS CONSCIENCE otherwise Men should be engaged without if not against Conviction a thing Unreasonable in a Man Therefore the Apostle when he wrote to the Church exhorted them not to do those things whereof they were ashamed to shun what was manifested to be Evil and affirms that whatever might be known of God was manifested within for God had shown is unto them SO THAT CONVICTION CAN ONLY OBLIGE TO OBEDIENCE and since what works that Conviction is the manifesting Light universal Grace or quickning Spirit in the Heart of Mankind it follows that the principal Ground for our Faith in the Scriptures and Reason of our Obedience to the holy Precepts therein contained is the Manifestation Conviction and secret drawing of the Light or Spirit of God in the Conscience And thus E B's words are sound and scriptural for the Scriptures are chiefly believed to be true upon Conviction therefore every Practice therein AND WHEN ANY MAN IS CONVINCED THAT WHAT WAS COMMANDED ANOTHER IS REQUIRED OF HIM THEN AND NOT TILL THEN HE IS RIGHTLY AUTHORIZED TO PERFORM IT Again Such Commands either relate to Ordinary or Extraordinary Cases By Ordinary Cases I mean such as chiefly concern Faith and holy Life which are general permanent and indispensible and then I deny his Consequence By Extraordinary Cases I understand Moses 's going to Pharaoh the Prophets several manneres of Appearance to the Kings Priests and People of Israel with other Temporary Commands relating to outward services c. And so we say that what is commanded One Man is not binding as such upon another But when the Lord shall say If thou sinnest thou shalt dye If thou keepest my Commands thou shalt ●ive Be ye holy for I the Lord your God am holy For your selves KNOW YE NOT how ye ought to follow us c I say these Precepts and Examples are obliging upon all why because they more or less meet with a Conviction In the Consciences of all For I am perswaded none that has a reasonable Soul who has not out-lived his Day but would readily say These are true and weighty Sayings For Faith in God and a holy self-denying Life are necessary both to Temporal Eternal Happiness It was Reader to this sober Answer he slung out his foregoing Rant and makes this following Comment and Reply Viz. says J. Faldo Rep. They are no Commands unless we think so 'T is no sin to break all the Commands in the Bible if our Consciences can be so blind dead or hardened as not to tell us 't is a sin They who thought they did God good service in killing his Servants did not sin in the least because they were not convinced of a Command to the contrary To vindicate