the_o valentinian_o that_o i_o mean_v which_o irenaeus_n speak_v to_o in_o this_o place_n be_v as_o you_o may_v see_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o thirteen_o chapter_n that_o none_o but_o s._n paul_n be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o truth_n as_o have_v only_o receive_v it_o by_o revelation_n whereby_o all_o his_o argument_n in_o the_o precedent_a chapter_n from_o the_o authority_n of_o s._n peter_n s._n stephen_n s._n philip_n etc._n etc._n have_v be_v overthrow_v to_o strengthen_v they_o he_o prove_v in_o the_o thirteen_o chapter_n that_o not_o only_a s._n paul_n but_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o disciple_n also_o understand_v the_o mystery_n of_o salvation_n and_o in_o the_o 14_o particular_o s._n luke_n and_o these_o two_o viz._n scripture_n be_v not_o the_o sole_a rule_n of_o faith_n s._n paul_n alone_o be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o mystery_n of_o salvation_n a_o exact_a study_a of_o irenaeus_n and_o impartial_a lover_n of_o truth_n will_v have_v to_o be_v the_o same_o as_o to_o the_o place_n itself_o this_o i_o conceive_v to_o be_v your_o argument_n s._n paul_n deliver_v all_o he_o know_v to_o s._n luke_n s._n luke_n write_v all_o be_v deliver_v he_o therefore_o s._n paul_n know_v all_o that_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n s._n luke_n write_v all_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n to_o which_o i_o have_v already_o answer_v that_o though_o i_o shall_v admit_v the_o conclusion_n little_o will_v be_v advance_v in_o order_n to_o our_o question_n since_o we_o deny_v not_o but_o all_o may_v be_v contain_v in_o scripture_n some_o way_n or_o other_o particular_o or_o under_o general_a head_n but_o that_o all_o be_v so_o contain_v as_o be_v necessary_a for_o the_o salvation_n of_o mankind_n to_o which_o effect_n we_o conceive_v certainty_n and_o to_o that_o evidence_n requisite_a neither_o of_o which_o be_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o naked_a word_n leave_v without_o any_o guard_n to_o the_o violent_a and_o contrary_a storm_n of_o criticism_n but_o i_o conceive_v you_o do_v the_o saint_n wrong_v and_o understand_v the_o word_n all_o in_o a_o sense_n far_o different_a from_o what_o he_o do_v for_o have_v learn_v from_o s._n john_n so_o little_a a_o book_n as_o s._n luke_n can_v not_o hold_v true_o all_o till_o you_o can_v prove_v he_o mean_v his_o book_n for_o a_o rule_n of_o faith_n and_o intend_v to_o deliver_v in_o it_o all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n i_o must_v believe_v it_o be_v no_o ordinary_a violence_n that_o can_v force_v such_o a_o sense_n upon_o it_o as_o have_v neither_o a_o likely_a nor_o any_o ground_n but_o since_o your_o own_o profession_n and_o large_a citation_n show_v both_o a_o confidence_n and_o esteem_n of_o irenaeus_n give_v i_o leave_v with_o that_o serious_a earnestness_n which_o the_o concern_v of_o eternity_n for_o no_o less_o be_v in_o question_n require_v to_o press_v your_o own_o word_n upon_o you_o and_o desire_v you_o to_o observe_v and_o impartial_o weigh_v the_o truth_n while_o i_o represent_v the_o proceed_n of_o irenaeus_n to_o you_o and_o make_v you_o judge_v whether_o of_o we_o take_v part_n with_o the_o father_n whether_o with_o his_o adversary_n the_o error_n of_o the_o valentinian_o be_v build_v upon_o certain_a obscure_a place_n of_o scripture_n or_o rather_o indeed_o upon_o certain_a deceitful_a reason_n in_o philosophy_n as_o your_o denial_n of_o transubstantiation_n for_o example_n be_v and_o a_o denial_n even_o of_o the_o b._n trinity_n if_o you_o please_v may_v be_v but_o perceive_v the_o rule_n of_o christianity_n do_v not_o allow_v that_o for_o a_o foundation_n of_o faith_n they_o endeavour_v to_o support_v the_o edifice_n by_o scripture_n brag_v no_o doubt_n among_o their_o follower_n it_o be_v clear_o on_o their_o side_n but_o be_v press_v to_o a_o trial_n give_v in_o evidence_n the_o obscure_a place_n mention_v against_o this_o irenaeus_n contend_v that_o parable_n because_o capable_a of_o many_o solution_n be_v not_o to_o be_v rely_v upon_o and_o consequent_o since_o only_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o scripture_n be_v scripture_n that_o scripture_n be_v vain_o pretend_v where_o the_o many_o sense_n leave_v we_o uncertain_a which_o be_v the_o true_a one_o then_o examine_v the_o place_n for_o his_o side_n and_o show_v they_o both_o in_o clearness_n and_o number_n to_o overbalance_n the_o other_o he_o overthrow_v their_o pretence_n and_o preserve_v the_o majesty_n of_o scripture_n to_o his_o party_n the_o same_o do_v we_o to_o you_o who_o build_v most_o of_o your_o mistake_n in_o faith_n upon_o mistake_n in_o philosophy_n pretend_v plain_a scripture_n and_o when_o it_o come_v to_o trial_n bring_v place_n capable_a of_o as_o many_o sense_n as_o the_o valentinian_n parable_n be_v of_o solution_n we_o answer_v as_o he_o do_v that_o there_o be_v no_o rely_v upon_o such_o place_n and_o examine_v those_o we_o conceive_v to_o be_v of_o our_o side_n and_o compare_v they_o with_o you_o both_o in_o clearness_n and_o number_n conclude_v your_o sense_n not_o true_a and_o scripture_n not_o only_o not_o for_o you_o but_o against_o you_o yet_o all_o this_o while_n neither_o he_o nor_o we_o think_v scripture_n for_o this_o dispute_v out_o of_o it_o the_o only_a rule_n of_o faith_n whether_o it_o be_v or_o no_o be_v not_o in_o these_o case_n our_o question_n but_o since_o as_o the_o valentinian_o do_v then_o you_o will_v now_o undertake_v to_o prove_v scripture_n be_v against_o we_o and_o as_o irenaeus_n then_o so_o we_o now_o acknowledge_v nothing_o be_v to_o be_v hold_v against_o scripture_n we_o do_v as_o he_o do_v show_v you_o can_v make_v good_a your_o undertake_n next_o the_o valentinian_o by_o the_o privilege_n of_o their_o nearness_n to_o the_o primitive_a time_n better_o acquaint_v with_o the_o ground_n of_o faith_n than_o you_o will_v have_v justify_v their_o interpretation_n by_o tradition_n a_o evident_a proof_n what_o it_o be_v which_o those_o first_o age_n hold_v the_o interpreter_n of_o scripture_n and_o that_o so_o undeniable_o that_o even_o heretic_n pretend_v to_o it_o what_o say_v irenaeus_n to_o this_o do_v he_o answer_v as_o you_o do_v that_o tradition_n be_v not_o to_o be_v regard_v but_o the_o cause_n to_o be_v decide_v by_o scripture_n and_o that_o the_o only_a rule_n by_o no_o mean_n but_o careful_o and_o diligent_o prove_v tradition_n to_o be_v against_o they_o which_o he_o also_o declare_v to_o be_v not_o what_o they_o pretend_v by_o abuse_n of_o those_o word_n sapientiam_fw-la loquimur_fw-la inter_fw-la perfectos_fw-la whisper_v corner_n conveyance_n of_o one_o to_o another_o such_o as_o the_o cabala_n you_o object_n to_o we_o but_o the_o open_a plain_a profession_n of_o those_o church_n to_o who_o the_o apostle_n leave_v their_o doctrine_n and_o its_o practice_n and_o among_o which_o he_o conceive_v that_o of_o the_o roman_a church_n alone_o sufficient_a this_o public_a testimony_n as_o he_o so_o we_o lay_v claim_v to_o and_o profess_v with_o he_o will_v be_v sufficient_a even_o though_o there_o be_v no_o scripture_n at_o all_o which_o nevertheless_o since_o god_n infinite_a goodness_n have_v provide_v for_o we_o we_o do_v not_o understand_v the_o force_n of_o the_o former_a impair_v by_o the_o addition_n of_o a_o new_a force_n but_o that_o belong_v to_o another_o question_n give_v i_o leave_v to_o end_v the_o present_a one_o with_o this_o confidence_n that_o you_o can_v but_o see_v we_o follow_v the_o father_n step_n and_o you_o those_o who_o follow_v the_o valentinian_o and_o that_o it_o appear_v by_o what_o have_v be_v say_v your_o minor_a neither_o be_v nor_o since_o you_o have_v fail_v in_o likelihood_n ever_o will_v be_v prove_v part_n ii_o tradition_n the_o rule_n of_o faith_n sect_n i._o ¶_o 1_o certainty_n of_o tradition_n ¶_o 1._o in_o the_o three_o dialogue_n the_o certainty_n of_o your_o tradition_n have_v endeavour_v to_o take_v away_o the_o certainty_n of_o scripture_n i_o think_v in_o vain_a be_v endeavour_v i_o be_v glad_a of_o the_o promise_n to_o do_v the_o work_v only_o by_o reason_n and_o common_a sense_n without_o any_o quotation_n of_o author_n because_o i_o want_v that_o vast_a knowledge_n in_o antiquity_n which_o be_v requisite_a for_o the_o decide_n of_o this_o question_n by_o it_o but_o i_o see_v my_o hope_n be_v frustrate_v for_o your_o cause_n neither_o be_v here_o nor_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o reason_n alone_o without_o that_o read_n which_o yet_o i_o want_v the_o reason_n here_o or_o any_o other_o that_o may_v be_v manage_v without_o quotation_n of_o author_n i_o be_o ready_a to_o see_v and_o examine_v and_o as_o ready_a to_o subscribe_v unto_o if_o they_o convince_v i_o but_o i_o think_v it_o unreasonable_a for_o you_o to_o pretend_v to_o prove_v your_o religion_n infallible_a and_o yet_o bring_v no_o positive_a argument_n that_o be_v of_o themselves_o sufficient_a to_o convince_v but_o only_o to_o stand_v upon_o your_o guard_n
be_v already_o a_o christian_a i_o do_v not_o see_v the_o word_n can_v be_v bring_v to_o bear_v your_o sense_n since_o manifest_o he_o can_v not_o have_v be_v so_o without_o already_o be_v certain_a of_o the_o body_n of_o christianity_n so_o that_o your_o exposition_n make_v the_o evangelist_n very_o wise_o take_v a_o great_a deal_n of_o pain_n in_o write_v a_o book_n to_o inform_v theophilus_n certain_o of_o what_o he_o certain_o know_v before_o mr._n whites_n interpretation_n therefore_o seem_v much_o the_o more_o genuine_a and_o yet_o even_o admit_v you_o i_o can_v as_o i_o say_v before_o imagine_v any_o approach_n to_o our_o difference_n for_o st._n luke_n express_o confine_v his_o design_n to_o the_o instruction_n of_o theophilus_n he_o that_o extend_v it_o to_o more_o act_v manifest_o without_o any_o warrant_n from_o he_o you_o urge_v afterward_o the_o first_o of_o the_o act_n which_o you_o say_v mr._n white_n pass_v over_o as_o commentator_n do_v hard_a place_n true_o your_o severity_n be_v beyond_o what_o i_o have_v ever_o meet_v with_o and_o you_o be_v the_o first_o example_n of_o expect_v a_o man_n shall_v answer_v more_o than_o be_v object_v mr._n white_a be_v speak_v to_o the_o gospel_n and_o these_o word_n be_v in_o the_o act_n and_o yet_o you_o except_v against_o he_o for_o take_v no_o notice_n of_o they_o as_o for_o the_o difficulty_n itself_o since_o those_o word_n can_v be_v take_v in_o their_o proper_a natural_a signification_n st._n john_n plain_o tell_v we_o the_o world_n will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o contain_v the_o book_n which_o may_v be_v write_v i_o do_v not_o see_v any_o ground_n you_o have_v to_o understand_v by_o they_o the_o substance_n of_o christian_a doctrine_n with_o submission_n to_o better_a judgement_n i_o apprehend_v that_o by_o all_o be_v mean_v all_o he_o think_v fit_a to_o communicate_v to_o theophilus_n that_o sense_n seem_v to_o flow_v natural_o from_o the_o place_n compare_v together_o but_o whether_o that_o interpretation_n be_v true_a or_o no_o i_o be_o sure_a nothing_o appear_v why_o a_o man_n shall_v accept_v of_o you_o for_o whereas_o you_o will_v prove_v it_o out_o of_o st._n luke_n exact_a knowledge_n that_o be_v manifest_o nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n every_o body_n see_v it_o follow_v not_o because_o s._n luke_n know_v all_o therefore_o he_o deliver_v all_o and_o for_o the_o quarrel_n against_o mr._n white_n for_o leave_v out_o the_o word_n exact_o beside_o that_o as_o i_o come_v from_o say_v it_o be_v far_o from_o be_v very_o pertinent_a exact_a know_v be_v much_o a_o different_a thing_n from_o exact_a teach_v all_o he_o know_v mr._n white_n put_v in_o stead_n of_o it_o that_o he_o be_v present_a almost_o at_o all_o thing_n etc._n etc._n which_o in_o matter_n of_o fact_n be_v the_o most_o exact_a knowledge_n that_o can_v be_v and_o for_o the_o second_o proof_n that_o otherwise_o he_o can_v not_o say_v he_o have_v deliver_v all_o christ_n do_v or_o teach_v i_o have_v already_o tell_v you_o though_o that_o word_n can_v be_v take_v proper_o to_o signify_v true_o all_o yoâ—_n do_v it_o wrong_v to_o take_v it_o so_o improper_o as_o you_o do_v the_o substance_n of_o christian_a doctrine_n be_v a_o strange_a english_a of_o the_o latin_a word_n omne_fw-la but_o be_v all_o this_o give_v to_o the_o respect_n of_o the_o person_n which_o suffer_v i_o not_o to_o pass_v by_o any_o thing_n you_o say_v without_o take_v notice_n of_o it_o though_o otherwise_o your_o conclusion_n which_o i_o be_o now_o come_v to_o do_v not_o any_o way_n prejudice_v the_o tenet_n i_o be_o maintain_v to_o contain_v sufficient_a truth_n and_o to_o be_v a_o sufficient_a mean_n to_o salvation_n which_o may_v possible_o be_v true_a in_o respect_n of_o some_o person_n and_o circumstance_n be_v quite_o another_o thing_n then_o to_o decide_v all_o quarrel_n carry_v on_o by_o factious_o litigious_a person_n and_o this_o in_o all_o time_n and_o case_n for_o a_o conclusion_n i_o beseech_v you_o to_o accept_v of_o this_o observation_n that_o a_o serious_a reflection_n on_o what_o you_o do_v yourself_o will_v satisfy_v you_o whether_o party_n truth_n take_v in_o this_o question_n for_o whatever_o force_n custom_n and_o a_o prepossess_v fancy_n have_v on_o your_o word_n to_o make_v they_o maintain_v st._n luke_n gospel_n alone_o sufficient_a nature_n contradict_v they_o so_o powerful_o that_o your_o action_n speak_v the_o clean_a contrary_n and_o plain_o prove_v it_o be_v not_o sufficient_a for_o since_o you_o can_v hold_v that_o a_o sufficient_a mean_n to_o you_o which_o you_o do_v not_o sufficient_o know_v to_o be_v a_o mean_n and_o this_o sufficiency_n of_o the_o gospel_n you_o do_v not_o know_v without_o the_o act_n which_o nature_n force_v you_o to_o rely_v upon_o even_o while_o you_o be_v maintain_v you_o need_v they_o not_o you_o see_v plain_o your_o word_n and_o action_n agree_v not_o and_o that_o while_o you_o will_v by_o the_o former_a persuade_v the_o sufficiency_n of_o the_o gospel_n alone_o the_o late_a unresistable_o convince_v something_o else_o viz._n the_o act_n be_v necessary_a to_o its_o sufficiency_n that_o be_v that_o it_o alone_o be_v not_o sufficient_a sect_n v._o answer_v to_o those_o father_n who_o be_v bring_v for_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o scripture_n my_o next_o argument_n for_o scripture_n sufficiency_n shall_v be_v out_o of_o the_o father_n which_o mr_n white_a p._n 175._o think_v improper_a for_o we_o who_o will_v not_o rely_v on_o their_o authority_n for_o any_o one_o point_n what_o though_o we_o receive_v not_o from_o they_o any_o authoritative_a testimony_n yet_o we_o embrace_v a_o rational_a one_o from_o any_o not_o because_o they_o say_v it_o therefore_o it_o be_v true_a but_o because_o we_o see_v no_o reason_n to_o dis-beleeve_a or_o have_v sufficient_a reason_n to_o believe_v they_o testify_v truth_n as_o a_o judge_n collect_v a_o truth_n from_o witness_n every_o one_o of_o which_o be_v a_o fallible_a man_n yet_o by_o behold_v circumstance_n see_v their_o concurrent_a testimony_n can_v be_v false_a here_o we_o have_v ground_n enough_o to_o believe_v that_o scripture_n be_v a_o sufficient_a rule_n to_o they_o because_o they_o say_v and_o confess_v it_o be_v i_o be_o ready_a to_o believe_v any_o tradition_n as_o well_o as_o the_o bible_n provide_v we_o have_v as_o good_a ground_n to_o believe_v it_o come_v from_o the_o apostle_n as_o i_o have_v of_o the_o bible_n suppose_v it_o be_v not_o a_o sufficient_a argument_n for_o we_o who_o beside_o have_v scripture_n on_o our_o side_n yet_o it_o be_v a_o sufficient_a argument_n against_o you_o who_o pretend_v to_o derive_v your_o religion_n from_o they_o who_o go_v before_o you_o who_o you_o include_v in_o your_o church_n as_o mr_n white_a if_o the_o bible_n have_v once_o that_o authority_n we_o plead_v for_o in_o your_o church_n it_o shall_v have_v it_o still_o the_o contrary_a be_v a_o novelty_n therefore_o i_o must_v count_v your_o doctrine_n false_a till_o you_o have_v solve_v this_o argument_n that_o which_o be_v the_o rule_n must_v be_v but_o scripture_n be_v the_o rule_n ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n ¶_o 2._o first_o i_o must_v take_v out_o of_o the_o way_n your_o objection_n out_o of_o those_o father_n i_o make_v use_n of_o that_o they_o be_v of_o your_o opinion_n which_o you_o gather_v out_o of_o several_a expression_n of_o they_o as_o that_o of_o austin_n who_o and_n other_o their_o word_n i_o have_v of_o late_o read_v in_o your_o author_n plead_v thus_o your_o cause_n i_o will_v not_o believe_v the_o gospel_n unless_o the_o authority_n etc._n etc._n in_o which_o and_o all_o other_o of_o their_o expression_n we_o must_v understand_v unless_o we_o will_v say_v through_o heat_n of_o dispute_n they_o sometime_o contradict_v their_o own_o sense_n plain_o deliver_v at_o other_o time_n according_a to_o their_o intent_n and_o so_o i_o see_v not_o any_o thing_n that_o make_v against_o we_o as_o that_o mention_v either_o s._n austin_n mean_v the_o church_n of_o all_o age_n or_o that_o present_a in_o which_o he_o live_v if_o that_o precise_o abstract_o without_o consideration_n of_o the_o antiquity_n of_o it_o and_o its_o doctrinal_a succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n his_o doctrine_n have_v be_v nothing_o available_a against_o the_o manichee_n against_o who_o he_o dispute_v for_o they_o may_v have_v allege_v the_o authority_n of_o their_o church_n with_o as_o good_a ground_n against_o he_o therefore_o when_o he_o allege_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n or_o tradition_n to_o be_v a_o sufficient_a proof_n of_o that_o which_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o scripture_n he_o mean_v the_o universal_a tradition_n of_o all_o age_n which_o be_v as_o evident_a as_o that_o of_o scripture_n tradition_n or_o as_o clear_o derive_v from_o the_o apostle_n by_o universal_a tradition_n as_o the_o scripture_n itself_o and_o such_o a_o
happiness_n now_o i_o beseech_v you_o can_v a_o man_n tell_v news_n except_o he_o teâ—l_v all_o he_o know_v or_o be_v not_o that_o to_o be_v call_v new_a which_o leave_v untell_v any_o thing_n belong_v to_o the_o same_o subject_n to_o argue_v therefore_o that_o because_o s._n john_n book_n contain_v news_n concern_v the_o way_n to_o heaven_n therefore_o it_o contain_v all_o that_o concern_v our_o way_n to_o heaven_n seem_v very_o unreasonable_a but_o what_o be_v more_o it_o be_v also_o nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o be_v it_o grant_v that_o all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n be_v contain_v in_o every_o of_o the_o gospel_n it_o will_v not_o follow_v they_o be_v so_o contain_v as_o be_v necessary_a that_o be_v accompany_v with_o evidence_n enough_o to_o guide_v mankind_n secure_o through_o all_o vicissitude_n to_o happiness_n and_o yet_o no_o less_o be_v requisite_a to_o make_v scripture_n the_o only_a rule_n of_o faith_n to_o the_o question_v you_o make_v in_o the_o last_o place_n whether_o the_o evangelist_n can_v be_v imagine_v to_o have_v write_v half_a a_o gospel_n i_o conceive_v your_o very_a next_o word_n be_v a_o answer_n for_o i_o beseech_v you_o have_v s._n john_n write_v those_o many_o thing_n which_o their_o multitude_n make_v he_o omit_v have_v they_o not_o all_o be_v gospel_n so_o that_o whatever_o proportion_n they_o bear_v of_o ½_n or_o â…“_n or_o â…›_n to_o the_o thing_n write_v this_o be_v certain_a he_o do_v not_o write_v all_o the_o gospel_n he_o know_v yes_o but_o he_o write_v say_v you_o all_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n you_o say_v so_o but_o will_v not_o take_v it_o amiss_o if_o your_o bare_a assertion_n have_v not_o the_o force_n to_o oblige_v every_o one_o to_o think_v so_o against_o the_o plain_a signification_n of_o the_o word_n you_o ground_n it_o upon_o for_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n be_v not_o as_o i_o say_v before_o that_o which_o the_o word_n gospel_n import_v ¶_o 2._o mr_n white_a answer_n to_o the_o place_n first_o s._n john_n writing_n be_v not_o to_o make_v a_o complete_a history_n of_o our_o saviour_n act_n and_o doctrine_n but_o only_o to_o specify_v such_o particular_n as_o prove_v that_o christ_n be_v the_o true_a consubstantial_a son_n of_o god_n to_o assert_v be_v not_o to_o prove_v s._n john_n intend_v only_o etc._n etc._n it_o may_v be_v as_o easy_o deny_v as_o affirm_v that_o be_v like_o a_o obstinate_a sophister_n that_o intend_v not_o truth_n but_o to_o say_v somewhat_o only_o to_o stop_v his_o adversary_n mouth_n a_o sign_n of_o a_o bad_a cause_n it_o be_v a_o sufficient_a confutation_n of_o any_o new_a assertion_n to_o prove_v it_o have_v no_o ground_n i_o see_v none_o imaginable_a mr_n white_a build_v his_o assertion_n on_o unless_o he_o have_v some_o he_o do_v not_o express_v which_o will_v be_v strange_a in_o this_o weighty_a matter_n but_o possible_o that_o assertion_n of_o s._n john_n sole_a intent_n to_o prove_v christ_n deity_n without_o which_o back_n door_n he_o can_v evade_v the_o force_n of_o the_o argument_n be_v build_v upon_o the_o 31_o verse_n of_o that_o 20_o chapter_n but_o these_o thing_n be_v write_v by_o i_o for_o this_o intent_n that_o you_o may_v believe_v that_o jesus_n be_v the_o christ_n the_o son_n of_o god_n but_o if_o you_o will_v give_v i_o leave_v i_o will_v prove_v the_o contrary_a with_o as_o much_o probability_n and_o i_o think_v certainty_n out_o of_o the_o same_o text_n not_o dis-jointed_n as_o mr_n white_n make_v use_v of_o it_o to_o force_v a_o false_a confession_n but_o take_v whole_o those_o thing_n be_v write_v by_o i_o for_o this_o end_n to_o bring_v you_o to_o salvation_n by_o your_o believe_a or_o entertainine_v the_o gospel_n that_o christ_n be_v the_o messiah_n for_o which_o end_n i_o have_v give_v you_o here_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v requisite_a to_o beget_v such_o a_o save_a faith_n in_o you_o although_o i_o may_v have_v write_v more_o i_o have_v not_o content_v myself_o with_o those_o which_o be_v sufficient_a for_o what_o end_n â—_o to_o show_v you_o only_o in_o a_o speculative_a way_n that_o christ_n be_v god_n no_o that_o will_v not_o save_v but_o that_o you_o may_v believe_v jesus_n be_v the_o christ_n the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o that_o believe_a you_o may_v have_v life_n through_o his_o name_n their_o have_a life_n seem_v rather_o to_o be_v his_o chief_a end_n because_o it_o be_v in_o the_o last_o place_n quod_fw-la est_fw-la ultimum_fw-la in_o executione_fw-la est_fw-la primum_fw-la in_o intention_n or_o if_o you_o will_v begin_v at_o the_o other_o end_n the_o word_n do_v not_o show_v it_o st._n john_n chief_a design_n to_o prove_v christ_n the_o consubstantial_a son_n of_o god_n for_o thus_o they_o run_v that_o you_o may_v believe_v that_o jesus_n be_v the_o christ_n or_o messiah_n the_o son_n of_o god_n that_o be_v the_o saviour_n of_o the_o world_n who_o be_v to_o come_v that_o you_o may_v be_v save_v by_o he_o ¶_o 2._o you_o next_o except_v against_o the_o answer_n mr._n white_n give_v to_o the_o 20_o of_o john_n and_o first_o that_o he_o assert_n but_o prove_v not_o which_o you_o say_v be_v a_o sign_n of_o a_o bad_a cause_n a_o trick_n of_o a_o obstinate_a sophister_n etc._n etc._n but_o pray_v recollect_v yourself_o and_o remember_v a_o answerer_n that_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v go_v beyond_o his_o bound_n to_o affirm_v deny_v or_o distinguish_v be_v the_o whole_a sphere_n of_o his_o activity_n and_o when_o you_o say_v it_o be_v a_o sufficient_a confutation_n of_o a_o new_a assertion_n to_o show_v it_o have_v no_o ground_n you_o say_v very_o true_a but_o pray_v take_v along_o with_o you_o that_o your_o assertion_n of_o scripture_n sufficiency_n to_o the_o effect_n we_o speak_v of_o be_v the_o new_a assertion_n unheard_a of_o in_o the_o world_n before_o luther_n and_o a_o interpretation_n of_o this_o place_n in_o favour_n of_o it_o every_o jot_n as_o new_a no_o such_o sense_n have_v ever_o be_v think_v of_o till_o the_o necessity_n of_o justify_v a_o unreasonable_a tenet_n force_v as_o unreasonable_a a_o explication_n if_o you_o please_v prove_v your_o ground_n and_o do_v not_o take_v it_o for_o grant_v till_o it_o be_v disprove_v when_o you_o have_v do_v so_o show_v this_o which_o you_o call_v a_o new_a assertion_n of_o mr._n whites_n have_v no_o ground_n for_o before_o sure_o you_o ought_v not_o to_o think_v it_o sufficient_o confute_v till_o than_o i_o can_v see_v why_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o sign_n of_o a_o bad_a cause_n to_o believe_v the_o apostle_n and_o take_v his_o word_n when_o he_o tell_v we_o the_o design_n of_o his_o writing_n be_v that_o we_o may_v believe_v the_o divinity_n of_o the_o son_n but_o you_o can_v prove_v the_o contrary_a with_o as_o much_o probability_n out_o of_o the_o same_o text_n if_o you_o do_v no_o more_o mr._n white_n have_v do_v as_o much_o as_o he_o shall_v do_v for_o if_o both_o explication_n be_v probable_a his_o adversary_n have_v conclude_v nothing_o against_o he_o but_o you_o think_v you_o can_v prove_v it_o with_o certainty_n let_v we_o see_v whether_o it_o be_v rational_a for_o i_o to_o think_v so_o and_o first_o after_o you_o have_v quarrel_v with_o mr._n white_a for_o dis-jointing_a the_o text_n as_o i_o conceive_v very_o unground_o when_o except_o this_o word_n christ_n which_o be_v not_o any_o way_n material_a he_o cite_v the_o verse_n true_o yourself_o instead_o of_o set_v it_o together_o again_o deliver_v not_o the_o text_n out_o of_o which_o you_o undertake_v to_o conclude_v but_o a_o large_a paraphrase_n upon_o it_o and_o this_o without_o tell_v we_o whether_o it_o be_v your_o own_o or_o recommend_v by_o any_o authority_n or_o in_o fine_a any_o ground_n why_o we_o shall_v accept_v it_o and_z of_o which_o nothing_o be_v certain_a but_o that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o text_n and_o this_o you_o call_v certainty_n pray_v sir_n remember_v to_o assert_v be_v not_o to_o prove_v remember_v it_o may_v be_v as_o easy_o deny_v as_o affirm_v remember_v obstinate_a sophistry_n and_o sign_n of_o a_o bad_a cause_n next_o all_o the_o use_v you_o make_v of_o your_o paraphrase_n be_v to_o establish_v this_o conclusion_n who_o certainty_n too_o be_v by_o this_o time_n relent_v into_o seem_v that_o their_o have_a life_n seem_v to_o be_v his_o chief_a end_n be_v it_o so_o as_o i_o conceive_v the_o end_n of_o all_o the_o apostle_n not_o only_o in_o their_o writing_n but_o both_o their_o and_o their_o master_n end_n in_o all_o his_o action_n be_v the_o life_n of_o christian_n sure_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v their_o life_n need_v no_o other_o either_o sustenance_n or_o physic_n then_o this_o gospel_n be_v it_o grant_v it_o be_v a_o principal_a mean_n to_o this_o end_n that_o it_o be_v the_o only_a or_o whole_a mean_n
tradition_n i_o be_o ready_a to_o embrace_v it_o be_v clear_a how_o high_a he_o value_v the_o church_n authority_n in_o that_o lib._n 2._o the_o util_a cred_a c._n 14._o this_o therefore_o i_o believe_v by_o fame_n strengthen_v by_o celebrity_n consent_n antiquity_n so_o that_o he_o do_v no_o more_o than_o we_o who_o notwithstanding_o be_v of_o a_o contrary_a mind_n to_o you_o ¶_o 3._o first_o we_o believe_v the_o thing_n of_o religion_n because_o they_o be_v publish_v and_o hold_v in_o that_o church_n or_o place_n where_o we_o live_v yet_o not_o sufficient_o for_o that_o not_o a_o sufficient_a ground_n of_o belief_n because_o of_o fame_n till_o the_o universal_a celebrity_n consent_n and_o antiquity_n do_v strengthen_v it_o he_o see_v not_o christ_n have_v recommend_v the_o church_n for_o a_o infallible_a decider_n of_o emergent_a controversy_n but_o for_o a_o credible_a witness_n of_o ancient_a tradition_n whosoever_o therefore_o refuse_v to_o follow_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n understand_v of_o all_o place_n and_o age_n in_o thing_n clear_o descend_v from_o christ_n let_v he_o be_v look_v upon_o to_o refuse_v christ_n but_o if_o he_o be_v understand_v any_o where_o assert_v only_o the_o present_a church_n authority_n sufficient_a to_o determine_v it_o must_v be_v in_o thing_n that_o be_v not_o matter_n of_o faith_n that_o which_o he_o prove_v by_o tradition_n he_o do_v not_o affirm_v it_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n or_o thing_n contain_v in_o scripture_n for_o his_o augustine_n word_n be_v evident_a ¶_o 4._o in_o iis_fw-la quae_fw-la apertè_fw-la posita_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o sacris_fw-la scripture_n omne_fw-la ea_fw-la reperiuntur_fw-la quae_fw-la continent_n fidem_fw-la moresque_fw-la vivendi_fw-la aug._n the_o doct_n christiana_n lib._n 2._o c._n 9_o nemo_fw-la mihi_fw-la dicat_fw-la o_fw-la quid_fw-la dexit_fw-la donatus_n aut_fw-la quid_fw-la dexit_fw-la parm._n aut_fw-la pontus_n aut_fw-la quilibet_fw-la eorum_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la catholicis_fw-la episcopis_fw-la consentiendum_fw-la est_fw-la sic_fw-la ubi_fw-la sort_n fallantur_fw-la ut_fw-la contra_fw-la canonicas_fw-la scripturas_fw-la aliquid_fw-la sentiant_fw-la aug._n de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la eccl._n c._n 10._o again_o ecclesiam_fw-la svam_fw-la demonstrarent_fw-la si_fw-la possunt_fw-la non_fw-la in_o sermonibus_fw-la &_o rumoribus_fw-la afrorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o conciliis_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la suorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o literis_fw-la quorumlibet_fw-la disputatorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o signis_fw-la &_o prodigiis_fw-la fallacibus_fw-la quia_fw-la etiam_fw-la contra_fw-la ista_fw-la verbo_fw-la domini_fw-la cauti_fw-la redditi_fw-la sumus_fw-la sed_fw-la in_fw-la scripto_fw-la legis_fw-la in_fw-la prophetarum_fw-la praedictis_fw-la in_o cantibus_fw-la psalmorum_fw-la in_fw-la ipsius_fw-la pastoris_fw-la vocibus_fw-la in_fw-la evangelistarum_fw-la praedicationibus_fw-la &_o laboribus_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la canonicis_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la librorum_fw-la authoritatibus_fw-la eodem_fw-la lib._n c._n 16._o utrum_fw-la ipsi_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la teneant_fw-la non_fw-la nisi_fw-la divinarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la canonicis_fw-la libris_fw-la ostendant_fw-la quia_fw-la nec_fw-la nos_fw-la propterea_fw-la dicimus_fw-la credi_fw-la debere_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la christi_fw-la sumus_fw-la aut_fw-la quia_fw-la ipsam_fw-la commendavit_fw-la optatus_n ambrose_n vel_fw-la alii_fw-la innumerabiles_fw-la nostrae_fw-la communionis_fw-la episcopi_fw-la aut_fw-la quia_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la colligarum_fw-la conciliis_fw-la predicata_fw-la est_fw-la aut_fw-la quia_fw-la per_fw-la totum_fw-la orbem_fw-la tanta_fw-la mirabilia_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la fiunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n quaecunque_fw-la talia_fw-la in_o catholicâ_fw-la fiunt_fw-la ideo_fw-la approbantur_fw-la quia_fw-la in_o catholica_fw-la fiunt_fw-la non_fw-la ideo_fw-la manifestatur_fw-la catholica_fw-la quia_fw-la haec_fw-la in_o ea_fw-la fiunt_fw-la ipse_fw-la dominus_fw-la jesus_n cum_fw-la resurrexit_fw-la a_o mortuis_fw-la &_o discipulorum_fw-la oculis_fw-la corpus_fw-la suum_fw-la offerret_fw-la ne_fw-la quid_fw-la tamen_fw-la fallaciae_fw-la se_fw-la pati_fw-la arbitrarentur_fw-la magis_fw-la eos_fw-la testimoniis_fw-la legis_fw-la &_o prophetarum_fw-la &_o psalmorum_fw-la conformando_n esse_fw-la judicavit_fw-la ibidem_fw-la non_fw-la audiamus_fw-la haec_fw-la dico_fw-la sed_fw-la haec_fw-la dixit_fw-la dominus_fw-la sunt_fw-la certae_fw-la libri_fw-la dominici_n quorum_fw-la authoritati_fw-la utrique_fw-la consentimus_fw-la ibi_fw-la quaeramus_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la ibi_fw-la discutiamus_fw-la causam_fw-la nostram_fw-la eod._n lib._n c._n 23._o chrysost_n in_o act._n hom._n 33._o take_v from_o heretic_n the_o opinion_n which_o thâ—â—_n maintain_v with_o the_o heathen_a that_o they_o may_v defend_v their_o question_n by_o scripture_n alone_o and_o they_o can_v stand_v tertullian_n de_fw-fr resurrectione_n carnis_fw-la hierom_n on_o matth._n 23._o writing_n of_o a_o opinion_n that_o john_n baptist_n be_v kill_v because_o he_o foretell_v the_o come_n of_o christ_n say_v thus_o this_o because_o it_o have_v no_o authority_n from_o scripture_n may_v as_o easy_o be_v condemn_v as_o approve_v i_o may_v here_o add_v aquinas_n his_o word_n 1_o quest_n 36._o art_n 2._o ad_fw-la 1m._o confess_v what_o he_o have_v prove_v out_o of_o dionysius_n we_o be_v to_o affirm_v nothing_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n but_o what_o we_o find_v in_o scripture_n thus_o you_o will_v have_v scripture_n alone_o some_o of_o you_o as_o mr_n white_n confess_v to_o be_v the_o rule_n for_o some_o truth_n though_o not_o for_o other_o which_o indeed_o be_v humane_a invention_n but_o i_o shall_v not_o urge_v you_o to_o maintain_v all_o your_o doctor_n affirm_v which_o notwithstanding_o you_o who_o build_v upon_o authority_n have_v more_o cause_n to_o do_v then_o we_o only_o observe_v the_o father_n be_v against_o you_o i_o proceed_v to_o give_v you_o more_o proof_n of_o it_o ¶_o 1_o 2_o 3_o 4._o i_o come_v now_o to_o your_o testimony_n from_o the_o father_n and_o beg_v leave_v before_o i_o enter_v upon_o they_o to_o pause_v a_o while_n upon_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o we_o that_o our_o eye_n be_v strong_o fix_v upon_o it_o may_v not_o be_v divert_v by_o that_o variety_n of_o object_n which_o the_o many_o notion_n find_v in_o testimony_n will_v present_v it_o you_o assert_v we_o deny_v scripture_n to_o be_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n every_o of_o which_o word_n deserve_v its_o particular_a reflection_n for_o first_o by_o scripture_n be_v mean_v either_o the_o word_n or_o sense_n that_o be_v the_o word_n contain_v a_o sense_n so_o as_o that_o another_o may_v be_v find_v in_o the_o same_o word_n or_o else_o a_o sense_n express_v accidental_o by_o such_o word_n &_o which_o may_v have_v be_v express_v by_o other_o by_o a_o rule_n since_o it_o be_v our_o belief_n must_v be_v regulate_v and_o our_o belief_n be_v of_o thing_n not_o sound_n be_v understand_v either_o a_o determinate_a sense_n or_o certain_a mean_n to_o arrive_v at_o it_o we_o say_v then_o that_o scripture_n take_v the_o first_o way_n can_v be_v a_o rule_n nothing_o be_v more_o evident_a than_o that_o word_n mere_o as_o such_o without_o due_a qualification_n which_o be_v not_o find_v in_o all_o word_n be_v neither_o sense_n nor_o mean_n to_o arrive_v at_o a_o determinate_a one_o since_o the_o same_o word_n may_v comprehend_v many_o sense_n take_v scripture_n the_o second_o way_n and_o the_o question_n be_v quite_o change_v none_o deny_v the_o sense_n of_o it_o to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n by_o which_o all_o our_o belief_n and_o action_n be_v to_o be_v regulate_v our_o dispute_n then_o in_o that_o case_n be_v not_o whether_o it_o be_v a_o rule_n but_o how_o it_o be_v know_v whether_o by_o the_o bare_a word_n in_o which_o it_o be_v couch_v which_o we_o deny_v because_o other_o sense_n be_v couch_v in_o the_o very_a same_o word_n or_o by_o the_o church_n authority_n interpret_n it_o by_o tradition_n which_o you_o conceive_v unnecessary_a to_o scripture_n interpret_v by_o tradition_n or_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n acknowledge_v by_o tradition_n we_o submit_v all_o our_o thought_n and_o action_n but_o deny_v the_o title_n of_o a_o rule_n can_v belong_v to_o scripture_n take_v for_o the_o mere_a word_n unsence_v that_o be_v character_n and_o conceive_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n can_v be_v sufficient_o discover_v by_o the_o bare_a scan_n of_o the_o word_n which_o after_o all_o be_v capable_a of_o many_o sense_n leave_v it_o undetermined_a which_o be_v the_o true_a one_o faith_n be_v to_o be_v consider_v either_o in_o respect_n of_o one_o or_o some_o few_o man_n or_o in_o respect_n of_o a_o multitude_n for_o since_o the_o same_o cause_n produce_v not_o the_o same_o effect_n upon_o different_a subject_n it_o be_v not_o possible_a that_o to_o every_o of_o those_o many_o who_o be_v comprehend_v in_o a_o church_n the_o same_o knowledge_n shall_v be_v necessary_a that_o there_o be_v a_o rewarder_n of_o good_a and_o punisher_n of_o evil_n may_v for_o aught_o i_o can_v tell_v be_v enough_o for_o some_o extraordinary_o dispose_v creature_n to_o know_v but_o mankind_n require_v the_o knowledge_n of_o much_o more_o again_o outward_a circumstance_n extreme_o vary_v the_o disposition_n of_o the_o subject_n we_o live_v both_o in_o calm_n and_o storm_n and_o to_o day_n a_o
that_o be_v all_o mr_n white_n do_v a_o subtle_a turk_n may_v the_o same_o way_n prove_v as_o well_o his_o false_a religion_n true_a part_n ii_o sect_n 1._o ¶_o 1._o be_v now_o arrive_v at_o the_o second_o part_n of_o your_o discourse_n i_o find_v nothing_o in_o the_o first_o paraph_n necessary_a to_o be_v take_v notice_n of_o but_o the_o last_o word_n viz._n that_o it_o be_v unreasonable_a to_o pretend_v to_o prove_v our_o religion_n infallible_a and_o yet_o bring_v no_o positive_a argument_n etc._n etc._n in_o the_o first_o branch_n of_o which_o say_v you_o be_v not_o much_o amiss_o nothing_o be_v more_o unreasonable_a then_o that_o a_o church_n which_o confess_o be_v once_o the_o true_a one_o shall_v be_v put_v to_o prove_v she_o be_v now_o no_o false_a one_o when_o all_o the_o maxim_n of_o common_a sense_n and_o proceed_n of_o nature_n suppose_v her_o innocence_n till_o the_o contrary_n be_v not_o by_o surmise_n and_o probability_n but_o plain_o and_o undeniable_o prove_v whoever_o therefore_o say_v she_o have_v fail_v aught_o to_o prove_v it_o and_o not_o expect_v she_o shall_v prove_v the_o impossibility_n of_o the_o contrary_n it_o be_v true_a the_o condescendence_n of_o charity_n have_v prevail_v to_o undertake_v so_o unreasonable_a a_o task_n here_o but_o not_o without_o protest_v against_o the_o necessity_n of_o do_v it_o as_o you_o see_v in_o the_o second_o paraph_n of_o this_o dialogue_n but_o the_o second_o be_v so_o injurious_a that_o have_v all_o man_n be_v of_o your_o temper_n perhaps_o it_o will_v have_v be_v well_o do_v to_o have_v stand_v whole_o upon_o that_o sure_a guard_n you_o reproach_n mr_n white_a withal_o and_o which_o the_o advantage_n of_o his_o cause_n give_v he_o and_o never_o meddle_v with_o positive_a argument_n which_o though_o unanswered_a and_o for_o aught_o i_o can_v imagine_v unanswerable_a since_o i_o do_v not_o believe_v any_o man_n can_v say_v more_o than_o you_o have_v do_v you_o will_v yet_o deny_v to_o be_v so_o much_o as_o argument_n that_o persuasion_n of_o you_o too_o which_o think_v so_o much_o read_v necessary_a to_o your_o information_n i_o can_v allow_v of_o but_o because_o you_o produce_v no_o reason_n for_o it_o can_v oppose_v it_o no_o otherwise_o then_o by_o profess_v my_o dislike_n of_o it_o ¶_o 2._o in_o his_o first_o encounter_n he_o give_v a_o compendium_n of_o the_o argument_n page_n 8._o her_o doctrine_n be_v receive_v from_o christ_n and_o still_o hand_v along_o to_o the_o present_a time_n suppose_v i_o say_v for_o example_n in_o the_o eight_o age_n a_o error_n creep_v in_o he_o will_v reply_v it_o enter_v not_o in_o because_o that_o age_n hold_v nothing_o be_v to_o be_v admit_v as_o of_o faith_n except_o that_o be_v deliver_v to_o it_o by_o the_o former_a therefore_o see_v that_o be_v then_o first_o believe_v it_o be_v not_o deliver_v by_o the_o former_a therefore_o not_o receive_v i_o answer_v no_o new_a opinion_n when_o first_o it_o creep_v up_o be_v entertain_v by_o any_o as_o a_o new_a thing_n which_o be_v not_o before_o but_o as_o forget_v or_o not_o discern_v or_o lose_v before_o do_v you_o think_v the_o arian_n look_v upon_o their_o doctrine_n as_o new_a which_o be_v never_o believe_v before_o or_o that_o be_v contrary_a to_o what_o the_o apostle_n teach_v if_o they_o do_v they_o will_v hauâ—_n cast_v off_o all_o christianity_n and_o hold_v nothing_o with_o the_o orthodox_n mr_n white_n bring_v in_o our_o objection_n the_o church_n do_v not_o stand_v upon_o that_o same_o traditional_a ground_n former_o as_o rome_n now_o he_o reply_n if_o this_o principle_n do_v not_o always_o govern_v the_o church_n it_o be_v introduce_v in_o some_o age_n the_o eight_o for_o example_n either_o say_v he_o against_o this_o the_o church_n have_v assurance_n in_o that_o eight_o age_n all_o she_o hold_v be_v descend_v lineal_o as_o we_o speak_v from_o the_o apostle_n or_o not_o if_o she_o have_v then_o questionless_a she_o hold_v her_o doctrine_n upon_o that_o maxim_n if_o not_o than_o she_o wilful_o belie_v and_o damn_a etc._n etc._n voluntary_o take_v up_o this_o new_a etc._n etc._n be_v this_o the_o demonstration_n ¶_o 2._o your_o state_v and_o oppose_a mr_n whites_n argument_n make_v i_o suspect_v you_o do_v not_o yet_o perfect_o comprehend_v it_o i_o beg_v leave_n to_o put_v you_o in_o mind_n there_o be_v two_o thing_n he_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v 1._o that_o if_o the_o church_n always_o rely_v upon_o the_o maxim_n of_o immediate_a delivery_n she_o can_v admit_v no_o error_n into_o her_o faith_n 2._o that_o she_o do_v always_o rely_v upon_o that_o maxim_n the_o first_o he_o prove_v thus_o if_o a_o error_n come_v in_o it_o come_v in_o at_o some_o time_n let_v that_o time_n be_v the_o eight_o age_n and_o if_o the_o church_n then_o admit_v nothing_o but_o what_o she_o have_v receive_v and_o this_o she_o have_v not_o receive_v for_o you_o put_v it_o then_o first_o to_o come_v in_o she_o do_v not_o admit_v it_o then_o nor_o by_o the_o same_o evidence_n can_v admit_v any_o error_n in_o any_o age_n to_o the_o second_o we_o shall_v speak_v in_o the_o four_o paraph_n to_o this_o you_o answer_v no_o new_a opinion_n be_v entertain_v as_o a_o new_a thing_n which_o be_v not_o before_o but_o as_o forget_v or_o not_o discern_v or_o lose_v before_o a_o answer_n which_o i_o dare_v not_o profess_v a_o perfect_a comprehension_n of_o not_o see_v to_o which_o of_o the_o premise_n it_o be_v direct_o oppose_v by_o a_o plain_a grant_n denial_n or_o distinction_n one_o of_o which_o ought_v always_o to_o keep_v company_n with_o every_o answer_n but_o conceive_v the_o force_n of_o the_o argument_n be_v not_o any_o thing_n impair_v by_o it_o for_o let_v it_o be_v entertain_v as_o lose_v as_o forget_v or_o how_o you_o will_v so_o it_o be_v not_o immediate_o deliver_v either_o the_o rule_n must_v be_v break_v or_o it_o can_v not_o be_v entertain_v and_o this_o i_o think_v evident_a even_o by_o your_o very_a term_n for_o if_o it_o be_v entertain_v as_o forget_v than_o it_o be_v entertain_v as_o a_o thing_n which_o some_o former_a age_n forget_v to_o deliver_v than_o some_o former_a age_n do_v not_o deliver_v it_o then_o if_o nothing_o be_v entertain_v but_o what_o be_v deliver_v pray_v how_o can_v this_o find_v entertainment_n to_o your_o question_n of_o the_o arian_n i_o answer_v it_o be_v very_o likely_a the_o ringleader_n among_o they_o persuade_v their_o follower_n such_o fine_a thing_n as_o you_o say_v that_o their_o doctrine_n be_v not_o new_a etc._n etc._n but_o nothing_o can_v blind_v they_o so_o far_o as_o not_o to_o see_v it_o be_v not_o teach_v they_o by_o their_o immediate_a forefather_n and_o though_o conceit_n of_o arius_n virtue_n and_o learning_n prevail_v with_o the_o more_o ignorant_a as_o ambition_n and_o interest_n with_o the_o more_o subtle_a not_o to_o value_v and_o to_o desert_v this_o rule_n yet_o it_o be_v impossible_a they_o shall_v be_v ignorant_a that_o they_o do_v desert_n it_o they_o will_v then_o have_v cast_v off_o all_o christianity_n say_v you_o and_o true_o the_o experience_n of_o my_o own_o country_n make_v i_o believe_v they_o will_v have_v they_o continue_v unoppose_v long_o enough_o to_o have_v pursue_v their_o principle_n whether_o it_o will_v have_v lead_v they_o but_o nature_n endure_v not_o a_o immediate_a passage_n from_o one_o extreme_a to_o another_o a_o consideration_n which_o be_v touch_v before_o i_o now_o say_v no_o more_o to_o and_o pass_v to_o your_o next_o difficulty_n which_o by_o your_o acknowledge_v be_v bring_v in_o by_o mr._n whites_n objection_n i_o perceive_v be_v level_v against_o the_o second_o not_o the_o first_o conclusion_n our_o business_n now_o therefore_o be_v to_o examine_v whether_o the_o church_n have_v always_o adhere_v to_o this_o maxim_n there_o be_v no_o dispute_n but_o that_o if_o she_o have_v she_o can_v not_o admit_v of_o any_o error_n in_o her_o faith_n ¶_o 3._o this_o i_o be_o sure_a of_o that_o either_o i_o do_v understand_v nothing_o of_o it_o or_o there_o be_v no_o force_n in_o it_o by_o assurance_n i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v not_o absolute_a certainty_n if_o he_o do_v the_o second_o horn_n of_o the_o dilemma_n upon_o which_o we_o fall_v do_v we_o no_o hurt_n i_o conceive_v he_o mean_v think_v if_o the_o eight_o age_n think_v all_o she_o hold_v be_v descend_v lineal_o from_o the_o apostle_n than_o she_o hold_v her_o doctrine_n upon_o that_o maxim_n but_o she_o think_v all_o she_o hold_v be_v descend_v lineal_o from_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o that_o the_o minor_a to_o be_v supply_v if_o we_o turn_v the_o first_o part_n into_o a_o catagorical_a syllogism_n therefore_o she_o hold_v her_o doctrine_n upon_o that_o maxim_n this_o i_o think_v be_v the_o conclusion_n for_o i_o do_v not_o clear_o discern_v
receive_v all_o decision_n from_o you_o for_o certainty_n and_o these_o shall_v be_v derive_v to_o follow_a age_n and_o so_o tradition_n of_o late_a date_n go_v for_o apostolic_a god_n forbid_v not_o the_o doctor_n out_o of_o two_o truth_n deliver_v to_o gather_v a_o three_o nor_o those_o that_o be_v no_o doctor_n to_o do_v the_o same_o if_o they_o can_v but_o who_o give_v the_o doctor_n of_o your_o church_n power_n to_o command_v their_o people_n to_o believe_v all_o their_o decision_n certain_o true_a without_o any_o more_o ado_n whether_o they_o be_v true_a or_o no_o it_o matter_n not_o as_o long_o as_o they_o be_v uncertain_a to_o any_o one_o he_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o believe_v they_o certain_o true_a p._n 31._o mr_n white_a demand_n whether_o the_o refuser_n have_v a_o demonstration_n against_o those_o truth_n he_o refuse_v to_o give_v absolute_a assent_n unto_o no_o what_o then_o must_v he_o therefore_o assent_v be_v it_o not_o a_o sufficient_a ground_n not_o to_o assent_v because_o he_o have_v no_o sufficient_a to_o assent_v i_o think_v it_o be_v and_o i_o pray_v do_v you_o show_v the_o contrary_a if_o i_o mistake_v ¶_o 10._o a_o hundred_o mathematician_n only_o tell_v i_o there_o be_v another_o world_n beside_o this_o just_o such_o another_o they_o be_v satisfy_v but_o give_v i_o no_o ground_n to_o know_v the_o same_o must_v i_o needs_o swear_v it_o be_v so_o and_o assent_v to_o that_o i_o know_v not_o as_o a_o certain_a truth_n thus_o you_o suffer_v yourselves_o to_o be_v lead_v by_o the_o nose_n into_o a_o thousand_o absurdity_n though_o the_o man_n by_o his_o probability_n be_v not_o to_o conclude_v rash_o all_o the_o doctor_n determination_n to_o be_v false_a yet_o though_o he_o have_v no_o probability_n against_o their_o decision_n he_o must_v deny_v assent_n only_o upon_o this_o ground_n that_o he_o have_v not_o sufficient_a evidence_n to_o conclude_v their_o determination_n certain_a i_o ask_v of_o you_o when_o a_o council_n of_o you_o meet_v and_o from_o two_o truth_n receive_v arrive_v at_o the_o discovery_n of_o a_o three_o tenet_n can_v the_o council_n err_v in_o this_o deduction_n or_o no_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n to_o say_v they_o can_v there_o be_v no_o promise_n for_o it_o they_o be_v all_o every_o one_o of_o they_o single_o take_v one_o by_o one_o fallible_a man_n as_o well_o as_o other_o nay_o mr_n white_a p._n 227._o say_v they_o may_v when_o he_o deny_v any_o father_n saying_n a_o sufficient_a proof_n of_o a_o point_n no_o say_v he_o not_o the_o chief_a of_o they_o no_o not_o 300_o of_o they_o together_o for_o so_o many_o bishop_n in_o a_o council_n have_v err_v well_o then_o it_o be_v possible_a they_o shall_v err_v though_o i_o will_v suppose_v it_o less_o probable_a than_o that_o one_o man_n shall_v err_v well_o but_o still_o it_o be_v possible_a they_o shall_v err_v and_o with_o what_o candour_n can_v mr_n white_n call_v it_o a_o obstinate_a and_o malepert_a pride_n not_o to_o subscribe_v to_o a_o fallible_a judgement_n as_o infallible_a or_o certain_a i_o call_v it_o blind_a folly_n to_o do_v it_o must_v i_o believe_v that_o true_a which_o i_o have_v no_o sufficient_a ground_n for_o i_o have_v it_o not_o because_o their_o bare_a assertion_n or_o judgement_n who_o may_v be_v mistake_v be_v fallible_a so_o than_o i_o shall_v believe_v a_o lie_n moral_o if_o not_o logical_o to_o i_o though_o not_o in_o itself_o because_o it_o be_v uncertain_a ¶_o 11._o now_o consider_v be_v this_o a_o trifle_n uno_fw-la absurdo_fw-la concesso_fw-la mille_fw-la sequuntur_fw-la though_o the_o first_o uncertainty_n which_o they_o conclude_v a_o certain_a truth_n be_v but_o a_o small_a falsehood_n as_o it_o be_v possible_a afterward_o more_o must_v needs_o follow_v be_v build_v upon_o the_o former_a and_o so_o what_o wonder_v that_o church_n swarm_v with_o error_n where_o such_o a_o principle_n be_v admit_v yet_o this_o way_n must_v be_v take_v the_o certain_a word_n of_o the_o eternal_a god_n shall_v be_v throw_v aside_o and_o fallible_a man_n that_o be_v party_n too_o in_o the_o cause_n shall_v ascend_v the_o throne_n and_o make_v their_o word_n a_o law_n there_o be_v difference_n between_o keep_v quiet_a and_o not_o contradict_v and_o between_o be_v force_v to_o subscribe_v to_o what_o a_o man_n know_v not_o certain_o this_o be_v wickedness_n in_o they_o that_o force_v it_o it_o be_v force_v often_o to_o sin_n what_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n be_v sin_n but_o beside_o though_o mr_n white_n say_v one_o single_a man_n can_v have_v a_o demonstration_n against_o that_o which_o be_v determine_v true_a though_o we_o suppose_v it_o rare_a it_o be_v possible_a for_o one_o man_n to_o find_v out_o what_o all_o the_o world_n beside_o be_v ignorant_a of_o as_o many_o have_v mr_n whites_n own_o instance_n of_o des_n cartes_n be_v sufficient_a who_o find_v out_o more_o than_o many_o learned_a clerk_n with_o twice_o the_o pore_a and_o will_v you_o force_v all_o to_o subscribe_v notwithstanding_o ¶_o 9_o 10_o 11._o the_o discourse_n in_o your_o follow_a paragraph_n be_v strong_a and_o worthy_a yourself_o and_o though_o by_o mistake_n of_o our_o tenet_n not_o conclude_v against_o we_o yet_o full_a of_o excellent_o deduce_v truth_n and_o first_o to_o defend_v mr_n white_a who_o only_o maintain_v the_o addition_n of_o truth_n why_o do_v you_o so_o confident_o call_v that_o a_o evident_a way_n how_o error_n may_v enter_v and_o spread_v itself_o in_o the_o church_n be_v truth_n and_o error_n all_o one_o or_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o man_n be_v content_a to_o admit_v of_o what_o they_o see_v to_o be_v true_a they_o will_v not_o check_v at_o what_o they_o either_o see_v be_v false_a or_o do_v not_o see_v be_v true_a will_v it_o ever_o follow_v out_o of_o mr_n whites_n position_n that_o there_o be_v no_o harm_n in_o add_v of_o truth_n that_o the_o mischief_n of_o add_v error_n can_v be_v avoid_v now_o because_o i_o conceive_v the_o mistake_n your_o whole_a discourse_n run_v upon_o be_v occasion_v by_o a_o wrong_a apprehension_n of_o the_o infallibility_n of_o council_n i_o find_v it_o necessary_a to_o observe_v that_o though_o some_o of_o our_o doctor_n speak_v of_o council_n so_o indistinct_o that_o they_o beget_v such_o a_o opinion_n of_o their_o infallibility_n and_o authority_n as_o i_o perceive_v you_o fancy_n yet_o the_o best_a divine_n with_o who_o mr_n white_a agree_v do_v not_o allow_v any_o power_n in_o the_o church_n of_o make_v new_a article_n of_o faith_n that_o be_v of_o make_v that_o to_o be_v faith_n to_o day_n which_o be_v not_o faith_n yesterday_o and_o the_o day_n before_o and_o always_o which_o it_o can_v not_o be_v without_o be_v teach_v by_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n whence_o it_o be_v evident_o consequent_a that_o if_o they_o can_v make_v any_o new_a thing_n to_o be_v faith_n neither_o can_v they_o oblige_v any_o to_o receive_v and_o believe_v it_o as_o faith_n their_o power_n therefore_o of_o impose_v faith_n upon_o we_o whatever_o fancy_v the_o confusion_n of_o some_o discourse_n have_v raise_v extend_v no_o far_a than_o to_o such_o thing_n as_o both_o be_v and_o be_v know_v to_o be_v faith_n before_o their_o imposition_n and_o sure_o no_o danger_n can_v be_v suspect_v from_o a_o authority_n of_o command_v that_o which_o the_o whole_a world_n see_v whether_o they_o have_v authority_n to_o do_v or_o no._n and_o so_o much_o for_o faith_n as_o for_o truth_n collect_v from_o premise_n first_o it_o appear_v they_o have_v no_o power_n to_o introduce_v they_o into_o the_o catalogue_n of_o faith_n i_o except_o such_o as_o appear_v plain_o at_o first_o sight_n and_o need_v no_o skill_n at_o all_o to_o their_o deduction_n which_o though_o in_o rigour_n they_o be_v not_o proper_o faith_n be_v yet_o in_o a_o moral_a estimation_n account_v the_o same_o and_o so_o by_o the_o world_n which_o in_o such_o plain_a thing_n can_v be_v deceive_v be_v indifferent_o believe_v second_o a_o council_n be_v a_o assembly_n of_o the_o learn_a man_n in_o the_o church_n can_v be_v deny_v to_o see_v into_o consequence_n far_o enough_o to_o know_v whether_o they_o be_v true_o deduce_v or_o no_o so_o that_o if_o they_o engage_v for_o the_o truth_n of_o any_o one_o as_o it_o can_v be_v exalt_v into_o faith_n so_o neither_o can_v it_o be_v imagine_v fall_n without_o some_o prejudice_n cross_v the_o disposition_n of_o nature_n which_o move_v we_o to_o believe_v every_o one_o in_o his_o trade_n neither_o do_v i_o think_v whatever_o you_o say_v of_o your_o hundred_o mathematician_n in_o which_o science_n be_v yourself_o a_o master_n to_o trust_v be_v improper_a but_o that_o if_o half_a a_o hundred_o carpenter_n shall_v agree_v such_o a_o piece_n of_o timber_n will_v fit_v such_o a_o house_n or_o as_o many_o surveyor_n that_o
though_o mr._n white_n can_v not_o you_o see_v be_v good_a if_o the_o father_n hold_v non-admission_n they_o hold_v no_o prayer_n because_o say_v you_o they_o know_v not_o before_o admission_n every_o man_n condition_n this_o you_o see_v i_o have_v deny_v but_o put_v case_n i_o have_v not_o i_o be_o afraid_a you_o will_v come_v short_a of_o your_o account_n s._n austin_n and_o other_o father_n be_v allege_v by_o veron_n a_o excellent_a french_a controvertist_n to_o maintain_v prayer_n to_o saint_n even_o while_o they_o doubt_v whether_o these_o saint_n hear_v the_o prayer_n make_v to_o they_o and_o you_o may_v reflect_v that_o prayer_n to_o saint_n be_v a_o part_n of_o tradition_n rivet_v into_o our_o heart_n by_o a_o universal_a and_o undeniable_a practice_n but_o whether_o soul_n free_v from_o the_o commerce_n of_o body_n receive_v intelligence_n of_o what_o pass_v among_o body_n and_o this_o again_o either_o from_o the_o nature_n of_o their_o state_n or_o divine_a revelation_n whether_o the_o return_n of_o our_o prayer_n to_o saint_n be_v from_o their_o mediation_n or_o only_o from_o the_o goodness_n of_o god_n make_v use_n of_o our_o affection_n to_o creature_n like_o ourselves_o to_o give_v we_o those_o benefit_n which_o otherwise_o we_o have_v never_o demand_v and_o so_o never_o receive_v and_o the_o like_a be_v school_n question_n in_o which_o speculative_a wit_n according_a to_o the_o difference_n of_o their_o learning_n and_o study_n have_v meet_v with_o either_o truth_n or_o error_n but_o act_v all_o the_o while_n as_o scholar_n and_o never_o doubt_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o the_o practice_n which_o occasion_v all_o these_o dispute_n and_o which_o they_o see_v firm_o settle_v upon_o a_o more_o solid_a foundation_n than_o all_o their_o school-learning_n for_o have_v they_o do_v so_o they_o have_v dispute_v it_o as_o well_o as_o the_o rest_n to_o take_v then_o all_o part_n of_o your_o argument_n it_o be_v false_a the_o father_n hold_v non-admission_n be_v false_a that_o non-admission_n import_v ignorance_n of_o our_o condition_n last_o it_o be_v false_a that_o non_fw-la admission_n and_o ignorance_n both_o of_o they_o exclude_v prayer_n to_o saint_n that_o be_v in_o the_o father_n judgement_n for_o the_o question_n be_v not_o what_o be_v true_a or_o false_a but_o what_o they_o hold_v to_o be_v so_o since_o they_o pray_v to_o they_o even_o then_o when_o they_o doubt_v whether_o they_o be_v hear_v or_o no._n now_o i_o beseech_v you_o reflect_v if_o to_o reject_v such_o argument_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o a_o rot_a cause_n what_o it_o be_v to_o be_v persuade_v by_o they_o and_o persuade_v in_o matter_n of_o no_o less_o concern_v then_o eternity_n ¶_o 2._o suppose_v that_o be_v mr._n whites_n meaning_n the_o saint_n know_v what_o we_o pray_v to_o they_o before_o they_o be_v admit_v into_o heaven_n be_v that_o your_o tenet_n to_o what_o purpose_n else_o do_v he_o bring_v jeremies_n pray_v in_o the_o macchabee_n to_o say_v that_o he_o pray_v in_o general_n as_o we_o do_v for_o the_o whole_a church_n though_o we_o know_v not_o its_o particular_a state_n be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n the_o question_n be_v whether_o we_o may_v pray_v to_o the_o saint_n and_o in_o order_n to_o our_o pray_v to_o they_o whether_o they_o can_v know_v every_o particular_a man_n prayer_n if_o you_o say_v they_o do_v you_o and_o your_o apocryphal_a book_n contradict_v the_o undoubted_a word_n of_o god_n by_o his_o prophet_n isai_n 63.16_o abraham_n know_v we_o not_o and_o isaac_n be_v ignorant_a of_o we_o which_o your_o s._n thomas_n can_v not_o otherwise_o solve_v then_o by_o imagine_v the_o saint_n before_o christ_n be_v not_o yet_o admit_v to_o heaven_n ¶_o 3._o here_o come_v your_o convince_a as_o you_o think_v argument_n against_o the_o knowledge_n of_o saint_n from_o the_o prophet_n isaiah_n araham_n know_v we_o not_o and_o israel_n be_v ignorant_a of_o we_o but_o i_o will_v beg_v of_o you_o not_o to_o put_v so_o much_o confidence_n in_o word_n without_o a_o full_a mastery_n of_o their_o sense_n for_o it_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n be_v true_o scripture_n you_o have_v find_v indeed_o the_o word_n ignorant_a and_o know_v we_o not_o but_o what_o be_v mean_v by_o that_o word_n and_o what_o that_o be_v be_v the_o whole_a difficulty_n you_o settle_v not_o you_o know_v that_o word_n luke_n 13.25_o 27._o be_v apply_v to_o the_o master_n of_o the_o house_n mat._n 25.12_o to_o the_o bridegroom_n and_o i_o hope_v you_o will_v not_o from_o it_o argue_v any_o ignorance_n in_o that_o master_n and_o that_o bridegroom_n mark_v 13.32_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n be_v deny_v to_o that_o son_n who_o be_v so_o man_n that_o he_o be_v also_o god_n can_v sure_o at_o any_o time_n be_v imagine_v to_o want_v his_o omniscience_n since_o therefore_o it_o be_v manifest_a those_o word_n have_v in_o scripture_n many_o sense_n what_o possibility_n be_v there_o by_o the_o bare_a sound_n without_o further_a inquiry_n to_o conclude_v any_o one_o the_o context_n and_o your_o own_o late_a translation_n which_o for_o ignorant_a put_v acknowledge_v not_o persuade_v i_o they_o have_v here_o the_o same_o sense_n as_o when_o god_n be_v say_v not_o to_o know_v impious_a person_n but_o it_o be_v not_o for_o i_o to_o prove_v but_o to_o show_v you_o have_v not_o do_v so_o and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n to_o wonder_v so_o excellent_a a_o wit_n shall_v make_v such_o a_o bravado_n with_o a_o bulrush_n which_o nevertheless_o i_o impute_v to_o the_o weakness_n of_o your_o cause_n who_o armoury_n afford_v no_o better_a weapon_n ¶_o 3._o that_o which_o mr._n white_a prove_v out_o of_o the_o parable_n of_o dives_n pray_v to_o abraham_n be_v as_o ridiculous_a for_o if_o it_o be_v a_o proof_n it_o be_v either_o nothing_o to_o the_o question_n or_o contrary_a to_o that_o scripture_n name_v but_o the_o principal_a answer_n for_o the_o former_a be_v but_o trifle_n sign_n of_o a_o rot_a cause_n saint_n be_v admit_v to_o heaven_n before_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n therefore_o see_v god_n and_o so_o all_o thing_n know_v our_o prayer_n and_o so_o sit_v to_o be_v pray_v unto_o but_o see_v this_o naked_a groundless_a not_o prove_v assertion_n be_v the_o principal_a answer_n how_o chance_v not_o a_o word_n to_o the_o argument_n that_o prevent_v and_o utter_o destroy_v it_o the_o father_n do_v hold_v the_o contrary_a be_v this_o a_o satisfaction_n to_o the_o argument_n only_o to_o say_v i_o do_v not_o believe_v it_o be_v judge_n yourself_o and_o give_v a_o better_a ¶_o 3._o you_o call_v mr._n whites_n touch_v upon_o the_o parable_n of_o dives_n ridiculous_a and_o say_v it_o be_v either_o nothing_o to_o the_o question_n or_o contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n name_v but_o since_o you_o do_v no_o more_o than_o say_v so_o you_o will_v pardon_v i_o if_o i_o have_v not_o that_o captivation_n of_o my_o understanding_n to_o your_o word_n which_o you_o refuse_v the_o church_n and_o give_v i_o leave_v to_o put_v you_o in_o mind_n you_o can_v affirm_v it_o contrary_a to_o that_o scripture_n till_o you_o be_v assure_v what_o that_o scripture_n be_v and_o far_o since_o scripture_n can_v be_v contrary_a to_o itself_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o i_o to_o believe_v you_o may_v as_o soon_o miss_v the_o sense_n of_o it_o as_o mr._n white_n who_o principal_a answer_n you_o in_o the_o next_o place_n call_v a_o naked_a groundless_a not_o prove_v assertion_n and_o for_o naked_a i_o think_v you_o mean_a want_n of_o either_o proof_n or_o ground_n for_o sure_a you_o will_v not_o except_v against_o the_o want_n of_o rhetoric_n and_o then_o it_o be_v the_o same_o with_o one_o of_o the_o other_o expression_n to_o the_o first_o of_o which_o i_o reply_v he_o have_v express_v the_o ground_n of_o it_o viz._n tradition_n and_o to_o the_o second_o that_o be_v the_o defendant_n it_o be_v not_o his_o part_n to_o prove_v but_o how_o chance_n no_o word_n to_o the_o argument_n according_a to_o the_o small_a insight_n i_o have_v in_o logic_n no_o argument_n either_o require_v or_o can_v have_v a_o full_a answer_n than_o a_o plain_a denial_n of_o its_o premise_n which_o i_o take_v to_o be_v do_v here_o the_o argument_n be_v this_o divers_a father_n you_o say_v the_o father_n hold_v non-admission_n before_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n wherefore_o they_o must_v also_o hold_v no_o prayer_n to_o saint_n now_o if_o i_o aver_v the_o admission_n of_o saint_n before_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n be_v teach_v by_o tradition_n i_o think_v i_o say_v also_o that_o it_o be_v teach_v by_o the_o father_n and_o consequent_o deny_v they_o teach_v the_o contrary_a and_o must_v believe_v till_o i_o be_o better_a instruct_v in_o the_o law_n of_o disputation_n when_o thus_o much_o be_v say_v to_o a_o argument_n more_o ought_v not_o
your_o mind_n be_v in_o the_o same_o temper_n it_o be_v in_o the_o first_o sect._n of_o this_o part_n will_v have_v be_v reason_n sufficient_a not_o only_o to_o doubt_v but_o to_o reject_v it_o that_o you_o have_v not_o evidence_n of_o its_o certainty_n for_o there_o a_o man_n must_v plain_o deny_v assent_n to_o what_o even_o all_o doctor_n determine_v though_o he_o have_v no-so_a much-as-probable_a objection_n against_o they_o upon_o this_o only_a ground_n that_o he_o have_v not_o evidence_n their_o determination_n be_v certain_a and_o here_o he_o must_v yield_v assent_n because_o he_o have_v not_o evidence_n the_o thing_n he_o assent_v to_o be_v not_o certain_a which_o be_v want_n of_o evidence_n must_v at_o one_o time_n produce_v dissent_n at_o another_o assent_n as_o it_o suit_v with_o your_o inclination_n to_o the_o case_n it_o be_v apply_v d_o to_z beside_o if_o all_o part_n of_o scripture_n have_v be_v doubt_v of_o etc._n vid._n hierom._n de_fw-fr scrip._n eccl._n in_o petro_n jacobo_n juda_n paulo_n spondan_n ad_fw-la a_o 60._o &_o 98._o com._n laod._n etc._n etc._n and_o deny_v too_o nay_o some_o which_o you_o receive_v by_o several_a even_o of_o the_o father_n why_o shall_v not_o you_o think_v you_o have_v reason_n to_o doubt_v as_o well_o as_o those_o who_o live_v near_o the_o primitive_a time_n and_o shall_v know_v more_o who_o shall_v satisfy_v a_o critical_a soul_n that_o all_o their_o doubt_n be_v ever_o fair_o answer_v and_o they_o not_o more_o oppress_v by_o strength_n then_o satisfy_v by_o reason_n and_o this_o also_o destroy_v your_o pretence_n to_o universal_a tradition_n of_o time_n and_o place_n since_o that_o can_v not_o in_o your_o ground_n be_v deliver_v with_o universality_n which_o by_o some_o have_v be_v deny_v and_o for_o your_o monument_n of_o antiquity_n i_o beseech_v you_o pretend_v not_o to_o prove_v it_o that_o way_n for_o i_o think_v i_o deal_v liberal_o if_o i_o allow_v you_o to_o have_v examine_v ten_o author_n of_o every_o age_n and_o what_o proof_n be_v ten_o of_o the_o sentiment_n of_o 1000000_o then_o what_o do_v you_o find_v in_o these_o author_n certain_a place_n of_o scripture_n cite_v out_o of_o such_o book_n as_o we_o still_o have_v but_o whether_o those_o book_n contain_v then_o the_o same_o number_n of_o chapter_n and_o verse_n they_o do_v now_o you_o will_v find_v very_o few_o to_o speak_v to_o nay_o i_o do_v not_o believe_v you_o will_v find_v ten_o in_o all_o age_n that_o give_v you_o a_o catalogue_n of_o the_o book_n themselves_o much_o less_o of_o the_o chapter_n and_o verse_n so_o that_o your_o conspiracy_n of_o all_o monument_n of_o antiquity_n will_v not_o amount_v to_o ten_o man_n in_o fifteen_o age_n i_o must_v desire_v you_o not_o to_o mistake_v what_o i_o have_v say_v as_o if_o i_o also_o doubt_v of_o scripture_n which_o i_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n reverence_v it_o as_o such_o and_o know_v the_o denier_n of_o it_o be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n heretic_n all_o i_o aim_v at_o be_v by_o a_o argument_n ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la to_o show_v the_o power_n of_o prejudice_n to_o which_o what_o be_v reason_n when_o of_o one_o side_n ceases_z to_o be_v reason_n when_o on_o the_o contrary_n if_o therefore_o you_o faithful_o pursue_v your_o own_o principle_n what_o ever_o you_o think_v the_o true_a ground_n why_o you_o receive_v scripture_n be_v the_o present_a church_n authority_n and_o you_o shall_v as_o you_o right_o infer_v receive_v the_o sense_n as_o well_o as_o word_n from_o she_o and_o for_o your_o fear_n of_o the_o alcoran_n you_o will_v need_v no_o other_o security_n than_o your_o own_o thought_n if_o you_o reflect_v that_o all_o which_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o mahometan_a church_n if_o that_o name_n be_v tolerable_a conclude_v be_v that_o what_o she_o say_v be_v deliver_v by_o mahomet_n be_v true_o deliver_v by_o mahomet_n and_o to_o so_o much_o i_o think_v you_o will_v allow_v her_o testimony_n good_a believe_v you_o do_v not_o doubt_v but_o that_o mahomet_n be_v true_o author_n of_o the_o alcoran_n and_o so_o much_o if_o you_o allow_v she_o you_o can_v deny_v the_o testimony_n of_o a_o christian_a church_n viz._n that_o what_o she_o affirm_v be_v deliver_v by_o christ_n be_v true_o deliver_v by_o christ_n and_o far_a tradition_n reach_v not_o now_o the_o minor_a necessary_a to_o a_o conclusion_n of_o religion_n that_o what_o be_v deliver_v by_o mahomet_n be_v inspire_v by_o god_n i_o be_o sure_a you_o hold_v as_o great_a impiety_n to_o grant_v as_o blasphemy_n to_o deny_v that_o which_o we_o subsume_v viz._n that_o what_o be_v deliver_v by_o christ_n do_v true_o proceed_v from_o god_n tradition_n then_o of_o the_o alcoâ—an_n and_o tradition_n of_o christian_a doctrine_n agree_v in_o this_o that_o they_o prove_v the_o one_o to_o have_v descend_v from_o mahomet_n the_o other_o from_o christ_n but_o christianity_n endure_v not_o either_o that_o a_o delivery_n from_o mahomet_n shall_v or_o that_o a_o delivery_n from_o christ_n shall_v not_o argue_v a_o necessity_n of_o obedience_n to_o what_o be_v so_o deliver_v as_o to_o sacred_a and_o heavenly_a truth_n ¶_o 2._o second_o i_o say_v if_o you_o can_v prove_v or_o produce_v any_o tradition_n for_o any_o reveal_v truth_n not_o contain_v in_o the_o bible_n as_o clear_o universal_a for_o time_n and_o place_n as_o that_o tradition_n which_o assure_v i_o the_o bible_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n i_o must_v embrace_v it_o ¶_o 2._o second_o i_o conceive_v there_o be_v no_o point_n of_o our_o faith_n but_o have_v not_o only_o as_o clear_o a_o universal_a tradition_n but_o a_o much_o clear_a both_o for_o time_n and_o place_n then_o the_o scripture_n a_o truth_n which_o since_o you_o may_v find_v in_o the_o first_o section_n of_o rushworth_n second_o dialogue_n i_o shall_v only_o wonder_v here_o you_o see_v not_o that_o the_o very_a argument_n which_o you_o make_v against_o the_o universality_n of_o tradition_n for_o some_o point_n as_o that_o they_o have_v be_v doubt_v of_o and_o reject_v by_o some_o be_v every_o whit_n as_o forcible_a against_o scripture_n whereof_o there_o be_v no_o paâ—â—_n which_o have_v not_o be_v both_o doubt_v of_o and_o reject_v too_o by_o heretic_n indeed_o at_o least_o for_o the_o most_o part_n for_o some_o also_o of_o the_o father_n have_v doubt_v even_o of_o some_o book_n which_o yourselves_o receive_v but_o so_o also_o be_v they_o who_o reject_v the_o point_n in_o question_n who_o opposition_n if_o it_o be_v not_o allow_v against_o scripture_n can_v be_v valid_a to_o any_o thing_n but_o prejudice_n against_o point_n of_o doctrine_n be_v true_a therefore_o if_o you_o please_v to_o your_o own_o reason_n and_o embrace_v that_o principle_n and_o the_o communion_n of_o those_o who_o own_o it_o which_o alone_o can_v with_o certainty_n convey_v to_o you_o these_o sacred_a truth_n which_o be_v necessary_a for_o your_o happiness_n ¶_o 3._o three_o i_o can_v grant_v your_o church_n be_v the_o only_a one_o before_o luther_n time_n there_o be_v the_o greek_a abyssen_n and_o other_o there_o may_v be_v in_o several_a part_n of_o the_o world_n that_o i_o know_v not_o of_o ¶_o 3._o three_o what_o you_o mean_v here_o by_o our_o church_n i_o can_v tell_v if_o only_o that_o number_n of_o orthodox_n christian_n who_o live_v within_o the_o precinct_n of_o the_o roman_a either_o diocese_n or_o patriarchate_o i_o know_v no_o body_n maintain_v i_o be_o sure_a i_o do_v not_o believe_v the_o number_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v confine_v to_o that_o pale_a but_o to_o answer_v of_o every_o particular_a place_n where_o christian_n live_v till_o it_o be_v agree_v what_o they_o hold_v and_o of_o what_o may_v be_v too_o as_o well_o as_o what_o be_v seem_v unreasonable_a eifor_o i_o to_o undertake_v or_o you_o to_o exact_v thus_o much_o be_v true_a in_o general_n that_o whatever_o company_n of_o man_n wherever_o they_o live_v hold_v this_o only_a principle_n of_o unity_n both_o in_o faith_n and_o government_n so_o as_o to_o be_v a_o church_n be_v not_o another_o but_o our_o church_n and_o who_o hold_v it_o not_o be_v no_o church_n at_o all_o ¶_o 4._o four_o i_o see_v no_o necessity_n that_o any_o one_o particular_a church_n shall_v continue_v uncorrupted_a or_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a the_o great_a number_n of_o professor_n of_o christianity_n shall_v have_v uncorrupted_a religion_n in_o the_o day_n of_o elijah_n the_o prophet_n there_o be_v but_o 700_o that_o have_v not_o bow_v the_o knee_n to_o baal_n which_o the_o prophet_n that_o think_v himself_o alone_o know_v not_o of_o ¶_o 4._o that_o there_o be_v any_o necessity_n a_o particular_a church_n shall_v always_o remain_v uncorrupted_a or_o that_o the_o great_a number_n of_o professor_n of_o christianity_n shall_v have_v uncorrupted_a religion_n be_v two_o proposition_n which_o