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A54154 The invalidity of John Faldo's vindication of his book, called Quakerism no Christianity being a rejoynder in defence of the answer, intituled, Quakerism a new nick-name for old Christianity : wherein many weighty Gospel-truths are handled, and the disingenuous carriage of by W.P. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1673 (1673) Wing P1305; ESTC R24454 254,441 450

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more_o spiritual_a nature_n and_o dignity_n than_o the_o flesh_n christ_n take_v of_o the_o seed_n of_o abraham_n for_o he_o be_v make_v the_o high_a priest_n of_o the_o second_o covenant_n be_v without_o beginning_n of_o day_n or_o end_n of_o life_n four_o because_o christ_n himself_o magnify_v the_o spirit_n above_o the_o flesh_n they_o look_v not_o far_o than_o his_o body_n or_o flesh_n as_o it_o be_v visible_a to_o the_o world_n and_o he_o appoint_v they_o to_o look_v far_o yea_o to_o his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n spiritual_o which_o be_v meat_n indeed_o and_o drink_v indeed_o be_v that_o live_a bread_n which_o come_v down_o from_o heaven_n that_o who_o eat_v thereof_o shall_v live_v forever_o joh._n 6._o 48_o to_o 58_o &_o 63._o and_o those_o that_o see_v not_o through_o and_o beyond_o that_o visible_a body_n of_o flesh_n which_o be_v the_o veil_n which_o the_o eternal_a word_n take_v to_o trasact_v and_o represent_v as_o in_o a_o common_a person_n that_o which_o every_o child_n of_o god_n ought_v measurable_o to_o witness_v in_o his_o own_o particular_a unto_o the_o behold_n and_o partake_v of_o the_o divine_a wisdom_n power_n and_o righteousness_n that_o dwell_v therein_o which_o be_v meat_n indeed_o and_o drink_v indeed_o unto_o every_o hungry_a and_o thirsty_a soul_n they_o be_v not_o yet_o come_v to_o the_o chief_a cornerstone_n that_o be_v elect_a and_o precious_a but_o be_v carnal_a not_o know_v the_o scripture_n nor_o the_o power_n of_o god_n mat._n 22._o 29._o five_o christ_n jesus_n lay_v far_o more_o weight_n upon_o the_o come_v of_o the_o comforter_n or_o himself_o in_o his_o second_o and_o spiritual_a appearance_n in_o they_o among_o who_o he_o bodily_a converse_v then_o upon_o the_o continuance_n of_o his_o bodily_a presence_n joh._n 16._o 7._o intimate_v that_o he_o intend_v a_o more_o spiritual_a communion_n with_o they_o they_o in_o he_o and_o he_o in_o they_o even_o as_o he_o be_v in_o his_o father_n &_o his_o father_n in_o he_o chap._n 17_o 21_o 23._o a_o fellowship_n beyond_o what_o they_o have_v already_o know_v how_o can_v it_o otherwise_o have_v be_v expedient_a as_o the_o text_n express_v it_o if_o the_o change_n from_o his_o visible_a to_o invisible_a presence_n have_v not_o be_v both_o more_o glorious_a and_o advantageous_a his_o disciple_n believe_v he_o for_o the_o word_n he_o speak_v chap._n 16._o 30._o but_o ver_fw-la 31._o 32._o jesus_n answer_v they_o do_v you_o now_o believe_v behold_v the_o hour_n come_v yea_o be_v now_o come_v that_o you_o shall_v be_v scatter_v every_o man_n to_o his_o own_o as_o much_o as_o if_o he_o have_v say_v you_o shall_v then_o know_v i_o and_o believe_v in_o i_o upon_o a_o more_o clear_a and_o certain_a ground_n when_o you_o shall_v have_v receive_v thus_o of_o my_o fullness_n and_o grace_n for_o grace_n joh._n 1._o 16._o and_o be_v scatter_v to_o it_o which_o be_v hard_o to_o be_v do_v while_o i_o stay_v in_o this_o capacity_n among_o you_o therefore_o it_o be_v expedient_a that_o i_o go_v away_o as_o to_o my_o bodily_a presence_n joh._n 16._o 7._o on_o which_o you_o have_v such_o great_a dependence_n but_o i_o christ_n will_v not_o leave_v you_o comfortless_a i_o will_v come_v a_o comforter_n unto_o you_o chap._n 14._o 3_o 18_o 19_o 20._o for_o lo_o i_o be_o with_o you_o always_o even_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n mat._n 28._o 20._o this_o be_v the_o christ_n of_o god_n six_o because_o the_o apostle_n paul_n desire_v not_o thence_o forth_o to_o know_v christ_n after_o the_o flesh_n but_o spiritual_o as_o he_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n reveal_v in_o himself_o 2_o cor._n 5._o 16._o gal._n 1._o 15_o 16._o and_o as_o the_o apostle_n count_v all_o other_o knowledge_n dross_n &_o dung_n to_o that_o of_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n in_o the_o face_n of_o jesus_n christ_n reveal_v in_o he_o so_o be_v he_o not_o content_v that_o the_o galatian_n shall_v rest_v in_o a_o fleshly_a knowledge_n of_o jesus_n christ_n but_o travel_v in_o birth_n with_o they_o 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