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A53737 A vindication of the Animadversions on Fiat lux wherein the principles of the Roman church, as to moderation, unity and truth are examined and sundry important controversies concerning the rule of faith, papal supremacy, the mass, images, &c. discussed / by John Owen. Owen, John, 1616-1683. 1664 (1664) Wing O822; ESTC R17597 313,141 517

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