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A62864 Anti-pædobaptism, or, The third part being a full review of the dispute concerning infant baptism : in which the arguments for infant baptism from the covenant and initial seal, infants visible church membership, antiquity of infant baptism are refelled [sic] : and the writings of Mr. Stephen Marshal, Mr. Richard Baxter ... and others are examined, and many points about the covenants, and seals and other truths of weight are handled / by John Tombes. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1657 (1657) Wing T1800; ESTC R28882 1,260,695 1,095

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of_o the_o faithful_a have_v by_o their_o birth_n interest_n in_o that_o covenant_n consider_v how_o the_o apostle_n determine_v rom._n 9.8_o the_o child_n of_o the_o flesh_n may_v not_o be_v the_o child_n of_o god_n nor_o the_o seed_n nor_o child_n of_o the_o promise_n another_o ense_fw-mi of_o the_o promise_n gen._n 17.7_o be_v i_o will_v be_v a_o god_n to_o abraham_n and_o his_o natural_a seed_n by_o isaac_n and_o jacob_n but_o in_o this_o sense_n it_o be_v proper_a only_a to_o the_o jew_n and_o the_o argument_n be_v as_o frivolous_a god_n promise_v to_o be_v a_o god_n to_o the_o jew_n therefore_o infant-gentile_n who_o have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o that_o promise_n must_v have_v baptism_n which_o be_v no_o seal_n or_o token_n of_o that_o promise_n at_o all_o if_o mr._n m._n will_v have_v do_v something_o to_o his_o purpose_n he_o shall_v have_v show_v not_o as_o he_o do_v p._n 106_o 107_o etc._n etc._n in_o many_o word_n quite_o beside_o the_o business_n how_o the_o covenant_n be_v take_v strict_o and_o large_o and_o how_o they_o may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o covenant_n in_o some_o sense_n who_o have_v a_o visible_a right_n without_o save_a grace_n but_o have_v show_v in_o which_o word_n there_o be_v any_o promise_n that_o may_v infer_v right_a to_o gentile-believer_n infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v gen._n 17.7_o or_o how_o he_o can_v prove_v what_o he_o say_v page_n 103._o that_o baptism_n seal_v that_o promise_n in_o which_o god_n engage_v himself_o to_o be_v the_o god_n of_o believe_v christian_n and_o their_o seed_n i_o will_v fain_o know_v in_o what_o word_n in_o respect_n of_o what_o blessing_n and_o gift_n and_o in_o what_o manner_n or_o upon_o what_o term_v god_n thus_o engage_v himself_o the_o apostle_n say_v gal._n 3.16_o to_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n be_v the_o promise_v make_v i_o no_o where_o find_v they_o be_v make_v to_o a_o gentile_a believer_n and_o his_o seed_n the_o like_a play_v with_o ambiguity_n be_v in_o the_o use_n of_o the_o phrase_n foederate_a in_o covenant_n be_v under_o the_o covenant_n be_v in_o covenant_n covenanter_n when_o he_o say_v infant_n of_o believer_n be_v foederati_fw-la or_o covenanter_n with_o god_n or_o enter_v into_o covenant_n according_a to_o the_o plain_a meaning_n of_o the_o word_n they_o shall_v be_v assert_v to_o be_v such_o as_o make_v a_o promise_n to_o god_n for_o what_o be_v a_o covenanter_n but_o one_o that_o make_v a_o promise_n how_o do_v man_n enter_v into_o covenant_n but_o by_o some_o act_n testify_v assent_n to_o a_o promise_n now_o in_o this_o sense_n i_o shall_v grant_v his_o major_n and_o deny_v his_o minor_a which_o in_o this_o sense_n be_v against_o sense_n for_o when_o do_v any_o hear_v or_o see_v or_o otherwise_o perceive_v a_o infant_n of_o a_o believer_n make_v a_o promise_n to_o god_n or_o by_o any_o act_n of_o he_o show_v his_o assent_n to_o own_o god_n for_o his_o god_n in_o the_o other_o form_n he_o say_v all_o such_o as_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n shall_v be_v seal_v and_o that_o expression_n seem_v to_o have_v this_o sense_n that_o god_n by_o his_o act_n of_o promise_n as_o his_o word_n be_v page_n 103._o engage_v himself_o to_o be_v the_o god_n of_o believe_v christian_n and_o their_o seed_n which_o his_o word_n import_v page_n 92._o where_n have_v say_v all_o such_o as_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n shall_v be_v seal_v to_o prove_v it_o he_o allege_v gen._n 17.7_o 9_o 10_o 14._o where_o the_o very_a ground_n why_o god_n will_v have_v they_o seal_v be_v because_o of_o the_o covenant_n i_o will_v establish_v my_o covenant_n between_o i_o and_o thou_o and_o thy_o seed_n after_o thou_o etc._n etc._n so_o that_o the_o sense_n of_o his_o argument_n shall_v be_v thus_o all_o they_o who_o be_v in_o covenant_n that_o be_v to_o who_o god_n have_v promise_v to_o be_v their_o god_n they_o shall_v be_v seal_v etc._n etc._n but_o all_o infant_n of_o believe_v even_o gentile_a parent_n be_v in_o covenant_n that_o be_v god_n have_v promise_v to_o be_v their_o god_n ergo._fw-la of_o which_o i_o will_v deny_v both_o major_a and_o minor_a the_o minor_a be_v express_o contrary_a to_o ro._n 9.8_o though_o it_o be_v understand_v of_o true_a believer_n and_o most_o certain_o false_a of_o believer_n only_o in_o profession_n to_o who_o especial_o th●se_a of_o the_o gentile_n god_n never_o promise_v to_o be_v god_n much_o less_o to_o their_o natural_a seed_n yet_o the_o minor_a must_v be_v true_a of_o they_o or_o else_o this_o argument_n prove_v not_o they_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v which_o be_v their_o practice_n but_o see_v the_o argument_n for_o infant-baptism_n will_v not_o hold_v in_o these_o sense_n of_o the_o promise_n gen._n 17.7_o though_o the_o first_o sense_n be_v that_o which_o they_o give_v of_o that_o promise_n when_o they_o dispute_v against_o arminian_n and_o apply_v it_o to_o the_o elect_a only_o as_o the_o word_n of_o many_o show_n cite_v in_o my_o examen_fw-la part_n 3._o s._n 4._o in_o my_o praecursor_n s._n 10._o mr._n m._n himself_o so_o expound_v it_o with_o mr._n bayn_n pag._n 102._o of_o his_o defence_n therefore_o mr._n m._n have_v another_o sense_n to_o which_o he_o fly_v he_o talk_v of_o a_o outward_a and_o a_o inward_a covenant_n page_n 120._o and_o page_n 112._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o mean_v all_o the_o infant_n of_o believer_n be_v in_o the_o outward_a covenant_n that_o be_v they_o be_v to_o be_v repute_v as_o in_o the_o covenant_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o outward_a administration_n outward_a ordinance_n and_o church-privilege_n which_o when_o it_o come_v to_o application_n be_v mean_v of_o no_o other_o than_o baptism_n now_o and_o circumcision_n heretofore_o and_o therefore_o as_o i_o show_v in_o my_o apology_n s._n 10._o the_o major_a proposition_n be_v mere_o nugatory_n in_o this_o sense_n all_o that_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n that_o be_v that_o be_v to_o have_v the_o initial_a seal_n shall_v be_v seal_v with_o the_o initial_a seal_n which_o be_v true_a but_o ridiculous_a and_o in_o truth_n i_o may_v how_o ever_o it_o be_v censure_v apply_v to_o the_o discourse_n in_o this_o argument_n be_v it_o mr._n ms._n or_o the_o assembly_n the_o poet_n word_n partur_fw-la montes_fw-la nasc●tur_fw-la ridiculus_fw-la mus_fw-la and_o yet_o there_o be_v more_o shuffle_n in_o this_o thing_n mr._n m._n to_o make_v some_o show_n of_o answer_v my_o instance_n of_o woman_n and_o male_n under_o eight_o day_n old_a not_o be_v circumcise_v though_o in_o covenant_n limit_n his_o major_n in_o the_o first_o form_n thus_o suppose_v they_o only_o capable_a of_o the_o seal_n and_o no_o special_a bar_n put_v in_o against_o they_o in_o the_o other_o form_n thus_o unless_o they_o be_v either_o uncapable_a of_o it_o or_o be_v exempt_v by_o particular_a dispensation_n by_o the_o bar_n he_o mean_v god_n prohibition_n as_o these_o word_n page_n 93._o show_n god_n forbid_v they_o to_o have_v the_o seal_n till_o they_o be_v eight_o day_n old_a but_o a_o prohibition_n and_o a_o dispensation_n be_v not_o all_o one_o a_o prohibition_n be_v of_o a_o thing_n that_o may_v not_o be_v do_v a_o dispensation_n suppose_v the_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v do_v yet_o free_v the_o person_n from_o do_v it_o in_o some_o case_n for_o some_o time_n but_o let_v pass_v this_o exception_n against_o the_o expression_n i_o will_v know_v how_o god_n put_v a_o bar_n or_o forbid_v infant_n under_o eight_o day_n old_a to_o be_v circumcise_v i_o know_v no_o other_o but_o this_o that_o god_n appoint_v the_o eight_o day_n for_o they_o to_o be_v circumcise_v now_o if_o this_o be_v a_o forbid_v to_o circumcise_v before_o as_o i_o acknowledge_v it_o be_v and_o so_o do_v many_o protestant_a divine_n as_o parcus_n comment_fw-fr in_o gen._n 17.11_o errant_a masculi_fw-la in_o foedere_fw-la abjutero_fw-la etc._n etc._n anticipare_fw-la vero_fw-la signum_fw-la nec_fw-la licebat_fw-la nec_fw-la opus_fw-la erat_fw-la then_o that_o be_v forbid_v which_o be_v otherwise_o than_o god_n appoint_v and_o since_o our_o lord_n christ_n have_v not_o appoint_v any_o to_o be_v baptize_v till_o they_o be_v disciple_n he_o have_v prohibit_v any_o to_o be_v baptize_v till_o they_o be_v disciple_n and_o so_o what_o ever_o the_o london_n minister_n say_v in_o their_o word_n above_o recite_v there_o be_v just_a ground_n even_o a_o prohibition_n against_o baptise_v infant_n and_o so_o the_o minor_a of_o mr._n ms._n argument_n be_v not_o true_a upon_o all_o this_o debate_n i_o profess_v i_o find_v so_o much_o inconsiderateness_n or_o confusedness_n or_o nonsense_n or_o untruth_n or_o trifle_v if_o not_o juggle_v in_o mr._n ms._n argue_v that_o i_o must_v vary_v my_o answer_n as_o i_o find_v his_o meaning_n sometime_o deny_v the_o syllogism_n as_o be_v tautological_a and_o not_o have_v three_o term_n
covenant_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o thing_n promise_v as_o already_o possess_v but_o that_o they_o be_v in_o covenant_n in_o respect_n of_o god_n act_n of_o promise_n they_o have_v promise_n of_o that_o which_o they_o shall_v have_v when_o they_o be_v call_v as_o i_o often_o express_v myself_o which_o be_v right_o understand_v the_o cavil_n of_o mr._n bl._n vanish_v of_o itself_o for_o though_o the_o resurrection_n be_v not_o past_a because_o of_o a_o promise_n of_o it_o yet_o the_o term_n covenant_n be_v the_o same_o with_o a_o promise_n they_o may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o covenant_n in_o respect_n of_o a_o promise_n make_v to_o they_o who_o yet_o enjoy_v not_o the_o thing_n promise_v which_o be_v confirm_v even_o from_o the_o common_a allegation_n of_o paedobaptist_n who_o say_v that_o by_o virtue_n of_o the_o promise_n gen._n 17.7_o to_o be_v a_o god_n to_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n infant_n of_o believer_n be_v in_o the_o covenant_n which_o can_v be_v true_a only_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o promise_n make_v which_o be_v as_o much_o before_o they_o be_v bear_v as_o after_o to_o this_o mr._n bl._n answer_n 1._o that_o this_o can_v be_v a_o argument_n bare_o add_v hominem_fw-la see_v though_o we_o affirm_v yet_o he_o deny_v any_o such_o covenant_n i_o reply_v 1._o that_o it_o be_v true_a that_o i_o deny_v that_o gen._n 17.7_o there_o be_v a_o covenant_n make_v to_o believer_n and_o their_o seed_n but_o i_o deny_v not_o the_o covenant_n to_o be_v to_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n nor_o do_v i_o deny_v elect_a infant_n to_o be_v therein_o comprehend_v and_o that_o afore_o they_o be_v bear_v 2._o if_o it_o be_v only_o a_o argument_n bare_o add_v hominem_fw-la yet_o it_o be_v sufficient_a till_o the_o tenet_n on_o which_o it_o proceed_v be_v disclaim_v by_o they_o which_o mr._n bl._n have_v not_o yet_o the_o heart_n to_o do_v but_o he_o answer_v 2._o i_o say_v as_o they_o be_v in_o be_v so_o they_o be_v also_o in_o covenant_n not_o actual_o but_o potential_o which_o be_v nothing_o to_o master_n tomb_n his_o purpose_n i_o reply_v to_o be_v potential_o in_o covenant_n may_v be_v mean_v either_o in_o respect_n of_o possession_n of_o the_o thing_n promise_v and_o so_o i_o grant_v they_o be_v in_o covenant_n only_o potential_o or_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o make_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o so_o they_o be_v in_o covenant_n actual_o that_o be_v the_o promise_n be_v make_v to_o they_o and_o this_o be_v enough_o for_o my_o purpose_n to_o prove_v a_o person_n may_v be_v in_o covenant_n unborn_a in_o which_o sense_n only_a infant_n be_v in_o covenant_n and_o therefore_o if_o infant_n thus_o be_v in_o covenant_n make_v they_o visible_a church-member_n and_o give_v right_a to_o their_o baptism_n by_o the_o same_o reason_n unborn_a or_o uncalled_a infidel_n have_v right_a to_o baptism_n mr._n bl._n page_n 386._o say_v he_o willing_o close_v with_o i_o where_o i_o say_v that_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n be_v no_o rule_n to_o a_o minister_n who_o 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