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A61522 The Bishop of Worcester's answer to Mr. Locke's letter, concerning some passages relating to his Essay of humane understanding, mention'd in the late Discourse in vindication of the Trinity with a postscript in answer to some reflections made on that treatise in a late Socinian pamphlet. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1697 (1697) Wing S5557; ESTC R18564 64,712 157

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