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A85394 Hagiomastix, or The scourge of the saints displayed in his colours of ignorance & blood: or, a vindication of some printed queries published some moneths since by authority, in way of answer to certaine anti-papers of syllogismes, entituled a Vindication of a printed paper, &c. ... / By John Goodwin, pastor of a Church of Christ in Colemanstreet. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1647 (1647) Wing G1169; Thomason E374_1; ESTC R201334; ESTC R201335 139,798 168

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so_o clear_a in_o any_o other_o church_n as_o it_o be_v here_o in_o england_n i_o see_v the_o moral_a of_o the_o fable_n verify_v if_o a_o man_n be_v the_o painter_n the_o lion_n shall_v be_v make_v to_o couch_v at_o his_o foot_n three_o that_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o be_v not_o settle_v in_o other_o kingdom_n or_o state_n as_o it_o be_v among_o we_o it_o seem_v they_o make_v a_o difference_n between_o clear_n and_o settle_v and_o so_o i_o believe_v that_o in_o their_o sense_n there_o be_v a_o very_a great_a difference_n indeed_o the_o former_a be_v god_n way_n the_o latter_a mens_fw-la in_o the_o four_o place_n they_o add_v it_o may_v just_o be_v believe_v that_o if_o he_o calvin_n be_v now_o alive_a in_o this_o kingdom_n he_o will_v not_o publish_v or_o maintain_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o observation_n of_o the_o lord_n day_n as_o it_o be_v enjoin_v by_o the_o law_n and_o ordinance_n of_o this_o realm_n but_o may_v not_o the_o justness_n of_o these_o man_n belief_n in_o this_o case_n be_v just_o question_v be_v it_o a_o just_a or_o righteous_a thing_n to_o believe_v or_o to_o suppose_v that_o a_o man_n of_o worth_n of_o able_a part_n of_o eminent_a learning_n of_o a_o compose_a judgement_n of_o a_o tender_a conscience_n will_v balk_v with_o god_n and_o his_o own_o soul_n in_o shun_v to_o declare_v what_o upon_o mature_a study_n upon_o diligent_a and_o faithful_a inquiry_n he_o judge_v to_o be_v the_o counsel_n or_o will_n of_o god_n through_o fear_n of_o a_o ordinance_n or_o law_n in_o a_o civil_a state_n i_o believe_v if_o calvin_n be_v now_o alive_a whether_o in_o this_o kingdom_n or_o in_o any_o other_o he_o will_v con_v these_o gentleman_n small_a thanks_n for_o such_o a_o commendation_n the_o dregs_o settle_v in_o the_o bottom_n of_o this_o answer_n be_v these_o can_v it_o be_v less_o than_o a_o wilful_a slander_n and_o malicious_a purpose_n of_o render_v the_o ordinance_n odious_a to_o name_v death_n as_o a_o punishment_n for_o maintain_v any_o thing_n against_o the_o ordinance_n and_o law_n about_o the_o lord_n day_n etc._n etc._n but_o so_o this_o querist_n deal_v in_o other_o of_o his_o query_n etc._n etc._n but_o let_v charity_n or_o reason_n or_o common_a sense_n or_o who_o you_o will_v judge_n whether_o it_o be_v less_o than_o a_o wilful_a slander_n and_o malicious_a purpose_n of_o render_v the_o querist_n odious_a without_o a_o cause_n to_o charge_v he_o with_o name_v death_n as_o a_o punishment_n for_o maintain_v any_o thing_n against_o the_o ordinance_n and_o law_n about_o the_o lord_n day_n to_o queree_n whether_o calvin_n deserve_v either_o imprisonment_n or_o death_n for_o teach_v and_o maintain_v etc._n etc._n which_o be_v the_o tenor_n of_o the_o queree_n be_v this_o to_o charge_v 56._o sect._n 56._o the_o ordinance_n with_o threaten_a death_n as_o a_o punishment_n for_o maintain_v any_o thing_n about_o the_o lord_n day_n against_o the_o ordinance_n and_o law_n if_o not_o how_o can_v it_o render_v the_o ordinance_n odious_a except_o haply_o it_o be_v either_o in_o the_o jealous_a conscience_n of_o such_o man_n who_o be_v under_o some_o regret_n and_o secret_a counterworking_n of_o conscience_n through_o fear_n lest_o the_o ordinance_n though_o please_v to_o they_o that_o be_v to_o their_o flesh_n shall_v yet_o be_v odious_a indeed_o in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n or_o else_o in_o the_o over-jealous_a conceit_n of_o those_o who_o chief_a hope_n and_o comfort_n on_o earth_n be_v bind_v up_o in_o the_o honour_n and_o success_n of_o the_o ordinance_n and_o who_o lie_v under_o the_o bondage_n of_o this_o fear_n that_o if_o the_o ordinance_n shall_v prove_v odious_a in_o the_o eye_n of_o man_n themselves_o shall_v suffer_v and_o bear_v the_o same_o burden_n with_o it_o to_o say_v that_o nicholas_n or_o matthew_n or_o any_o other_o person_n be_v either_o homo_fw-la or_o brutum_n be_v it_o any_o way_n to_o name_n or_o intimate_v that_o brutu●s_v be_v either_o the_o genus_fw-la or_o species_n of_o either_o but_o when_o man_n mind_n be_v set_v to_o do_v unworthy_o they_o become_v uncapable_a of_o great_a difference_n then_o be_v between_o conjunctive_a and_o dis-junctive_a particle_n though_o there_o be_v no_o such_o affinity_n or_o likeness_n between_o these_o which_o need_v encumber_v any_o sober_a man_n judgement_n in_o or_o about_o their_o dijudication_n but_o gangraena_fw-la and_o her_o paramour_n have_v justify_v all_o the_o son_n of_o presbytery_n beside_o in_o all_o their_o slander_n calumny_n false_a aspersion_n malicious_a imputation_n and_o report_n they_o that_o be_v malicious_a be_v not_o malicious_a in_o comparison_n of_o he_o that_o superabounds_a in_o malice_n omnis_fw-la caesarea_n cedat_fw-la labour_n amphitheatro_fw-la unused_a pro_fw-la cunct_n be_v fama_fw-la loquatur_fw-la opus_fw-la let_v all_o man_n malice_n give_v gangraena_fw-la place_n let_v fame_n instead_o of_o all_o this_o one_o piece_n grace_n in_o their_o answer_n to_o their_o twelve_o argument_n if_o they_o mean_v as_o 56._o sect._n 56._o they_o say_v they_o make_v some_o part_n of_o atonement_n for_o their_o delinquency_n against_o the_o query_n hitherto_o for_o here_o they_o grant_v that_o no_o man_n be_v punishable_a for_o his_o mere_a mistake_n whatever_o his_o opinion_n be_v but_o for_o be_v so_o pertinacious_a in_o his_o mistake_n in_o matter_n of_o great_a consequence_n as_o that_o he_o will_v not_o forbear_v to_o publish_v his_o mistake_n to_o the_o infection_n of_o other_o and_o the_o mischief_n of_o their_o soul_n and_o to_o the_o ruin_n or_o at_o least_o miserable_a 57_o sect._n 57_o disturbance_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n i_o free_o acknowledge_v that_o whosoever_o out_o of_o pertinacy_n in_o his_o mistake_n not_o only_o in_o matter_n of_o great_a consequence_n but_o even_o of_o lesser_a will_v not_o forbear_v to_o publish_v his_o mistake_n to_o the_o infection_n of_o other_o etc._n etc._n i._n e._n with_o a_o desire_n or_o intention_n to_o infect_v and_o mischief_n the_o soul_n of_o other_o etc._n etc._n deserve_v severe_o to_o be_v punish_v nor_o shall_v i_o ever_o plead_v mercy_n for_o such_o a_o man_n if_o the_o ordinance_n have_v explain_v itself_o after_o any_o such_o manner_n as_o this_o i_o i_o presume_v with_o many_o other_o shall_v have_v be_v satisfy_v in_o it_o without_o any_o more_o ado_n and_o not_o have_v need_v to_o crave_v satisfaction_n about_o it_o as_o now_o we_o have_v do_v but_o in_o case_n any_o man_n shall_v real_o and_o conscientious_o judge_v that_o opinion_n of_o he_o which_o other_o call_v a_o mistake_n and_o perhaps_o be_v so_o indeed_o to_o be_v a_o truth_n of_o god_n and_o shall_v withal_o real_o judge_v that_o he_o be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n to_o hold_v forth_o such_o a_o opinion_n as_o be_v in_o his_o judgement_n and_o conscience_n the_o undoubted_a truth_n of_o god_n and_o withal_o necessary_a to_o be_v publish_v and_o make_v know_v unto_o man_n for_o their_o spiritual_a benefit_n and_o good_a in_o case_n i_o say_v the_o publish_n of_o his_o opinion_n or_o mistake_n upon_o such_o term_n as_o these_o shall_v prove_v the_o infection_n of_o other_o or_o inconvenience_n or_o if_o you_o will_v mischief_n the_o soul_n of_o other_o etc._n etc._n i_o have_v no_o ground_n either_o in_o reason_n or_o religion_n to_o judge_v this_o man_n worthy_a either_o death_n or_o band_n nay_o if_o to_o publish_v such_o mistake_n and_o that_o even_o with_o pertinacy_n which_o tend_v to_o the_o infection_n of_o other_o and_o mischief_n of_o soul_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o matter_n worthy_a either_o death_n or_o band_n i_o have_v sufficient_a ground_n both_o in_o reason_n and_o religion_n to_o judge_v and_o think_v that_o very_o many_o minister_n of_o the_o anti-independent_a interest_n yea_o many_o of_o very_o eminent_a repute_n among_o they_o will_v upon_o due_a examination_n and_o trial_n be_v find_v in_o the_o condemnation_n the_o strength_n of_o their_o answer_n to_o their_o thirteen_o argument_n 57_o sect._n 57_o lean_v upon_o this_o staff_n that_o the_o open_a and_o public_a profession_n of_o error_n be_v more_o pernicious_a than_o the_o practice_n of_o sin_n in_o a_o like_a kind_n and_o degree_n they_o instance_n to_o teach_v there_o be_v no_o christ_n be_v more_o dangerous_a they_o say_v then_o to_o live_v as_o if_o there_o be_v no_o christ_n and_o yet_o make_v a_o profession_n of_o he_o well_o but_o my_o judgement_n and_o the_o judgement_n i_o believe_v of_o many_o more_o and_o this_o doctrine_n be_v at_o odds_n but_o these_o man_n attempt_v a_o reconciliation_n by_o the_o mediation_n of_o this_o reason_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o their_o doctrine_n the_o one_o they_o mean_v the_o public_a profession_n of_o error_n justifi_v what_o it_o do_v as_o lawful_a under_o pretend_a 57_o sect._n 57_o ground_n of_o truth_n the_o other_o practise_v and_o yet_o possible_o not_o so_o impudent_o
one_o or_o the_o other_o be_v so_o or_o such_o as_o he_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v as_o to_o the_o two_o instance_n wherein_o they_o insist_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o 91._o sect._n 91._o trinity_n and_o the_o incarnation_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n affirm_v that_o a_o man_n ought_v not_o to_o refuse_v to_o believe_v they_o although_o for_o the_o manner_n of_o they_o he_o can_v by_o his_o reason_n comprehend_v they_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o as_o by_o my_o reason_n i_o can_v and_o do_v comprehend_v and_o know_v they_o to_o be_v incomprehensible_a so_o i_o believe_v they_o according_o to_o be_v again_o second_o as_o by_o my_o reason_n i_o neither_o do_v nor_o can_v comprehend_v or_o conceive_v the_o particular_a modus_fw-la or_o manner_n of_o either_o so_o neither_o do_v i_o or_o ought_v i_o nor_o indeed_o can_v i_o without_o run_v a_o extreme_a hazard_n of_o a_o erroneous_a belief_n believe_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o concern_v they_o save_v only_o their_o incomprehensiblenesse_n in_o the_o general_a or_o that_o they_o be_v incomprehensible_a which_o as_o be_v say_v i_o be_o able_a by_o my_o reason_n to_o comprehend_v so_o then_o these_o two_o assertion_n or_o doctrine_n well_o understand_v first_o that_o a_o man_n ought_v to_o believe_v no_o more_o than_o what_o he_o have_v reason_n and_o ground_n for_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o second_o t●●●_n that_o a_o man_n ought_v to_o believe_v no_o more_o than_o what_o he_o be_v able_a by_o his_o reason_n to_o comprehend_v be_v but_o of_o a_o equipollent_a import_n and_o there_o be_v nothing_o more_o much_o more_o nothing_o more_o erroneous_a in_o the_o one_o then_o in_o the_o other_o that_o towards_o the_o beginning_n of_o this_o answer_n yea_o there_o be_v a_o piece_n of_o a_o duplicate_v of_o it_o in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o answer_n too_o be_v extreme_o unreasonable_a and_o obnoxious_a wherein_o they_o suppose_v yea_o little_o less_o than_o in_o terminis_fw-la affirm_v that_o they_o that_o will_v be_v satisfy_v what_o the_o ordinance_n mean_v by_o make_v it_o a_o error_n to_o hold_v that_o a_o man_n ought_v to_o believe_v no_o more_o than_o what_o by_o his_o reason_n he_o be_v able_a to_o comprehend_v must_v read_v the_o socinian_n book_n and_o there_o inform_v themselves_o what_o their_o proper_a opinion_n be_v for_o be_v it_o in_o any_o degree_n reasonable_a equal_a or_o just_a that_o such_o a_o ordinance_n or_o law_n shall_v be_v make_v and_o that_o for_o the_o imprisonment_n which_o be_v by_o interpretation_n the_o utter_a undo_n of_o man_n in_o case_n of_o delinquency_n the_o sense_n or_o meaning_n whereof_o they_o be_v in_o a_o utter_a incapacity_n to_o understand_v unless_o they_o read_v such_o book_n which_o first_o be_v only_o extant_a in_o such_o a_o language_n which_o not_o one_o of_o a_o hundred_o be_v able_a to_o 92._o sect._n 92._o understand_v and_o second_o be_v so_o rare_a and_o hard_o to_o be_v get_v that_o for_o the_o space_n of_o 13_o year_n and_o upward_o ever_o since_o my_o come_n to_o the_o city_n though_o i_o have_v from_o time_n to_o time_n make_v a_o narrow_a inquiry_n after_o they_o and_o lay_v out_o in_o several_a place_n where_o i_o conceive_v i_o shall_v be_v most_o likely_a to_o speed_v for_o some_o or_o other_o of_o they_o yet_o can_v i_o never_o to_o this_o day_n procure_v either_o for_o love_n or_o money_n as_o the_o say_n be_v so_o much_o as_o any_o one_o of_o they_o their_o groundless_a mistake_n about_o what_o the_o querist_n as_o they_o say_v will_v imply_v to_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n in_o the_o ordinance_n and_o their_o turn_n of_o the_o querie_n with_o a_o wet_a finger_n as_o if_o there_o be_v nothing_o material_a in_o it_o but_o a_o heap●_n of_o word_n i_o pass_v by_o and_o pardon_v be_v content_a they_o shall_v be_v number_v among_o their_o infirmity_n quotidianae_fw-la incursionis_fw-la in_o their_o answer_n to_o the_o thirty_o querie_n they_o maintain_v that_o 92._o sect._n 92._o the_o ordinance_n do_v express_v what_o it_o mean_v by_o obstinacy_n when_o it_o threaten_v the_o publish_n of_o such_o and_o such_o doctrine_n with_o obstinacy_n their_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o ordinance_n appoint_v admonition_n to_o go_v before_o punishment_n but_o be_v this_o a_o explication_n of_o what_o it_o mean_v by_o obstinacy_n certain_o these_o grand_a assertor_n of_o the_o ordinance_n have_v quit_v themselves_o upon_o term_n of_o more_o wisdom_n for_o the_o honour_n of_o it_o if_o they_o have_v plain_o g●●●ted_v that_o it_o have_v not_o indeed_o make_v any_o sufficient_a explication_n of_o itself_o in_o that_o particular_a for_o be_v a_o man_n to_o be_v judge_v obstinate_a who_o shall_v do_v that_o though_o after_o admonition_n which_o his_o admonition_n notwithstanding_o he_o judge_v and_o that_o upon_o good_a ground_n to_o be_v his_o duty_n to_o do_v be_v the_o apostle_n obstinate_a for_o preach_v in_o the_o na●●_n of_o jesus_n after_o that_o the_o highpriest_n ruler_n and_o elder_n solemn_o meet_v in_o a_o council_n have_v admonish_v they_o yea_o and_o strait_o charge_v and_o command_v they_o that_o they_o shall_v in_o no_o wise_n speak_v or_o teach_v any_o more_o in_o that_o name_n 18._o name_n act._n 4._o 18._o oh_o england_n awake_a for_o i_o fear_v thou_o sleep_v look_v about_o thou_o and_o consider_v how_o easy_o and_o when_o thou_o least_o think_v of_o it_o thou_o may_v be_v a_o obstinate_a offender_n if_o man_n of_o this_o spirit_n shall_v be_v thy_o judge_n in_o their_o 31_o answer_n they_o tell_v a_o mystical_a or_o misty_a story_n of_o 93._o sect._n 93._o the_o sense_n or_o meaning_n whereof_o i_o be_o no_o way_n guilty_a yet_o i_o shall_v tell_v it_o after_o they_o because_o some_o possible_o may_v understand_v it_o though_o i_o can_v as_o some_o perhaps_o say_v they_o of_o the_o querist_n friend_n may_v be_v thank_v for_o it_o they_o speak_v of_o that_o strong_a opposition_n insinuate_v in_o 93._o sect._n 93._o the_o querie_n between_o the_o government_n establish_v by_o the_o parliament_n and_o that_o so_o importunate_o desire_v by_o the_o minister_n who_o have_v endeavour_v to_o bind_v heavy_a burden_n upon_o other_o ever_o persecute_v they_o for_o not_o yield_v to_o those_o thing_n which_o even_o the_o conscience_n of_o those_o that_o press_v they_o know_v they_o can_v and_o believe_v they_o may_v not_o yield_v unto_o so_o careful_a and_o tender_a be_v they_o of_o their_o brethren_n conscience_n so_o be_v it_o neither_o of_o that_o kind_n they_o will_v have_v it_o be_v no_o way_n in_o favour_n of_o there_o independency_n for_o first_o it_o be_v the_o strange_a news_n to_o i_o that_o i_o have_v hear_v many_o a_o day_n that_o any_o of_o my_o friend_n shall_v deserve_v thanks_n either_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o opposition_n they_o speak_v of_o between_o the_o two_o government_n i_o can_v believe_v that_o any_o person_n man_n or_o woman_n congregational_o incline_v 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power_n every_o whit_n as_o bountiful_o as_o well_o for_o the_o comfort_n and_o preservation_n of_o man_n life_n whilst_o they_o 14._o sect._n 14._o stand_v by_o they_o as_o for_o the_o restore_n or_o recall_v of_o they_o when_o they_o be_v depart_v 10._o depart_v act._n 9_o 40._o act._n 20._o 9_o 10._o yea_o the_o scripture_n teach_v we_o to_o look_v upon_o the_o bless_a condition_n of_o christ_n glorify_v as_o a_o more_o hopeful_a ground_n of_o obtain_v grace_n and_o favour_n from_o he_o in_o every_o kind_n than_o his_o be_v in_o the_o form_n of_o a_o servant_n be_v for_o if_o when_o we_o be_v enemy_n say_v the_o apostle_n we_o be_v reconcile_v to_o god_n by_o the_o death_n of_o his_o son_n much_o more_o be_v reconcile_v we_o shall_v be_v save_v by_o his_o life_n 10._o life_n rom._n 5._o 10._o four_o the_o say_a answer_n blush_v also_o with_o the_o red_a of_o this_o inference_n or_o supposal_n viz._n that_o because_o that_o negative_a expression_n of_o christ_n mention_v that_o he_o come_v not_o to_o destroy_v man_n life_n be_v not_o necessary_o a_o absolute_a negation_n but_o rather_o a_o prefer_n of_o one_o thing_n before_o another_o therefore_o it_o be_v necessary_o and_o absolute_o a_o prefer_n of_o one_o thing_n before_o another_o and_o the_o meaning_n of_o it_o necessary_o and_o absolute_o this_o that_o christ_n come_v not_o only_o or_o so_o much_o to_o destroy_v man_n life_n but_o to_o save_v they_o do_v the_o possibility_n or_o nonnecessity_n of_o the_o be_v of_o a_o thing_n either_o so_o or_o so_o necessary_o and_o absolute_o imply_v the_o be_v of_o it_o otherwise_o this_o it_o seem_v be_v one_o of_o the_o logic_n pillar_n upon_o which_o presbytery_n have_v build_v her_o house_n five_o and_o last_o the_o answer_n we_o speak_v of_o vanish_v away_o and_o die_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o this_o most_o senseless_a and_o importune_a reason_n 14._o sect._n 14._o if_o peter_n by_o his_o word_n strike_v ananias_n and_o sapphira_n dead_a for_o their_o sacrilegious_a dissimulation_n and_o christ_n himself_o threaten_v destruction_n to_o jerusalem_n for_o reject_v he_o their_o messiah_n then_o be_v the_o destroy_n of_o man_n life_n by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n for_o contradict_v the_o most_o fundamental_a doctrine_n of_o christ_n agreeable_a to_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n do_v the_o antecedent_n and_o consequent_a in_o this_o hypotheticall_a proposition_n agree_v any_o whit_n better_o than_o harp_n and_o harrow_n be_v the_o contradict_v of_o what_o a_o man_n know_v no_o sufficient_a ground_n or_o reason_n why_o he_o shall_v judge_v or_o think_v it_o to_o be_v a_o truth_n nor_o with_o his_o best_a endeavour_n be_v able_a so_o to_o judge_v of_o it_o which_o according_a to_o the_o common_a tenet_n of_o these_o man_n themselves_o be_v the_o case_n of_o all_o unregenerate_a man_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o fundamental_a doctrine_n of_o christ_n a_o sin_n of_o the_o like_a nature_n or_o equal_o punishable_a with_o the_o sin_n of_o sacrilegious_a dissimulation_n which_o the_o sinner_n can_v but_o know_v to_o be_v a_o abomination_n see_v before_o sect._n 11._o or_o be_v the_o threaten_n of_o destruction_n by_o christ_n himself_o to_o jerusalem_n upon_o a_o old_a score_n of_o all_o manner_n of_o provocation_n and_o abomination_n which_o have_v run_v on_o for_o many_o generation_n together_o which_o threaten_v notwithstanding_o be_v not_o 14._o sect._n 14._o put_v in_o execution_n till_o almost_o forty_o year_n after_o it_o be_v denounce_v be_v such_o a_o threaten_v i_o say_v as_o this_o by_o christ_n himself_o of_o a_o like_a consideration_n with_o the_o actual_a and_o present_a inflict_v of_o the_o punishment_n of_o death_n upon_o a_o man_n by_o a_o civil_a magistrate_n only_o for_o contradict_v in_o word_n such_o or_o such_o tenet_n in_o christian_a religion_n suppose_v the_o most_o fundamental_a of_o the_o truth_n or_o likelihood_n whereof_o the_o miserable_a wretch_n have_v no_o assurance_n nor_o perhaps_o know_v how_o to_o 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to_o have_v strike_v it_o with_o all_o those_o heavy_a judgement_n or_o plague_n that_o have_v fall_v upon_o it_o in_o as_o much_o as_o they_o foretell_v and_o preadmonish_v the_o nation_n of_o they_o before_o they_o come_v the_o great_a difference_n be_v that_o peter_n have_v his_o prediction_n of_o sapphira_n death_n by_o a_o more_o immediate_a revelation_n from_o god_n the_o minister_n have_v their_o prediction_n of_o the_o judgement_n execute_v upon_o this_o nation_n by_o the_o mediation_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o hold_v forth_o ground_n for_o such_o prediction_n if_o magistrate_n be_v able_a upon_o substantial_a ground_n to_o foreshow_v what_o judgement_n will_v fall_v upon_o those_o that_o shall_v oppose_v the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n in_o case_n these_o judgement_n shall_v fall_v upon_o they_o according_o without_o the_o magistrate_n interposall_n for_o their_o procurement_n i_o shall_v free_o allow_v they_o this_o imitation_n of_o peteter_n in_o strike_v ananias_n and_o sapphira_n dead_a with_o his_o word_n for_o i_o much_o doubt_n whether_o it_o have_v be_v lawful_a for_o peter_n have_v prophesy_v of_o sapphira_n death_n to_o have_v slay_v she_o with_o a_o sword_n for_o the_o vindication_n of_o his_o prophecy_n but_o sure_o these_o man_n be_v not_o aware_a of_o their_o friend_n if_o of_o themselves_o when_o they_o plead_v the_o example_n of_o peter_n smite_v ananias_n and_o sapphira_n with_o death_n for_o dissimulation_n to_o strengthen_v the_o hand_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o punish_v offender_n according_o for_o i_o very_o believe_v be_v it_o his_o duty_n and_o he_o conscientious_a in_o the_o performance_n of_o it_o to_o smite_v hypocrisy_n and_o dissimulation_n with_o the_o sword_n that_o great_a and_o numerous_a party_n which_o the_o anti-querists_a have_v for_o the_o present_a in_o the_o land_n will_v soon_o be_v reduce_v to_o the_o shake_n of_o a_o olive_n tree_n and_o to_o the_o glean_v of_o grape_n after_o the_o vontage_n in_o the_o mean_a while_o 1●_n sect._n 1●_n we_o clear_o see_v with_o what_o rot_a timber_n the_o house_n of_o the_o lord_n so_o call_v be_v now_o build_v by_o the_o great_a architect_n of_o it_o we_o have_v now_o do_v with_o the_o answer_n of_o our_o syllogist_n to_o their_o first_o argument_n and_o have_v find_v the_o argument_n laugh_v the_o answer_n in_o the_o face_n to_o scorn_v proceed_v we_o in_o the_o next_o place_n to_o the_o examination_n of_o their_o answer_n 15._o sect._n 15._o give_v to_o their_o second_o syllogism_n which_o by_o the_o strength_n of_o their_o imagination_n and_o logic_n together_o they_o hale_v and_o pull_v out_o of_o my_o second_o querie_n that_o unhappy_a querie_n of_o classic_a indignation_n at_o which_o so_o many_o of_o this_o way_n have_v make_v shipwreck_n of_o their_o patience_n and_o manlike_o ingenuity_n discover_v themselves_o not_o to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 21._o 〈◊〉_d jam._n 5._o 21._o subject_n to_o like_a passion_n with_o other_o man_n which_o be_v eliiah_n infirmity_n but_o to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o subject_n to_o passion_n appropriate_v to_o themselves_o of_o a_o worse_o and_o more_o deplorable_a nature_n than_o other_o man_n but_o let_v we_o hear_v how_o they_o answer_v this_o argument_n of_o their_o own_o this_o they_o attempt_v to_o do_v first_o by_o reason_n second_o by_o passion_n for_o the_o first_o this_o answer_n or_o rather_o this_o part_n of_o their_o answer_n stand_v upon_o two_o leg_n with_o much_o ado_n the_o first_o be_v this_o that_o they_o who_o after_o admonition_n maintain_v damnable_a heresy_n be_v no_o long_o to_o be_v esteem_v brethren_n but_o enemy_n to_o christ_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o be_v to_o be_v according_o deal_v with_o 4._o with_o page_n 4._o this_o ground_n be_v true_a but_o as_o true_a it_o be_v that_o it_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o first_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n as_o damnable_a heresy_n in_o the_o argument_n which_o they_o propose_v to_o answer_v but_o only_o of_o such_o opinion_n which_o for_o aught_o the_o inflicter_n of_o death_n know_v may_v be_v the_o sacred_a truth_n of_o christ_n if_o they_o will_v grant_v that_o such_o opinion_n may_v be_v damnable_a heresy_n which_o for_o aught_o the_o man_n they_o speak_v of_o know_v may_v be_v sacred_a truth_n of_o christ_n i_o grant_v both_o the_o truth_n and_o pertinencie_n of_o the_o supposition_n or_o ground_n but_o if_o they_o grant_v it_o it_o undo_v they_o in_o all_o they_o further_o have_v to_o say_v either_o in_o way_n of_o reason_n or_o of_o passion_n in_o this_o answer_n as_o will_v appear_v present_o and_o second_o whereas_o they_o say_v that_o such_o who_o after_o admonition_n shall_v maintain_v damnable_a heresy_n etc._n etc._n be_v to_o be_v deal_v with_o all_o according_o i._n either_o as_o god_n have_v command_v or_o as_o otherwise_o be_v reasonable_a in_o such_o case_n i_o know_v no_o man_n 〈…〉_o in_o this_o gainsay_v they_o but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o inflict_v of_o the_o heavy_a censure_n of_o death_n upon_o man_n these_o be_v the_o term_n of_o the_o syllogism_n which_o they_o pretend_v to_o answer_v 16._o sect._n 16._o be_v these_o equipollent_a expression_n in_o their_o logic_n to_o deal_v with_o a_o offender_n according_a to_o his_o offence_n and_o to_o inflict_v the_o heavy_a censure_n of_o death_n upon_o he_o sure_o these_o man_n be_v stoic_n and_o hold_v the_o paradox_n omnia_fw-la peccata_fw-la esse_fw-la aequalia_fw-la i._n that_o all_o sin_n be_v equal_a the_o question_n between_o they_o and_o their_o syllogism_n be_v not_o whether_o they_o who_o maintain_v damnable_a heresy_n after_o admonition_n be_v to_o be_v deal_v with_o according_o no_o nor_o yet_o whether_o such_o be_v to_o be_v punish_v with_o death_n but_o whether_o it_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o mind_n of_o christ_n for_o man_n to_o inflict_v the_o censure_n of_o death_n upon_o man_n for_o hold_v forth_o such_o opinion_n which_o for_o ●ught_v they_o know_v may_v be_v the_o sacred_a truth_n of_o christ_n but_o to_o this_o question_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o all_o their_o answer_n neither_o in_o the_o more_o lightsome_a part_n of_o it_o which_o shall_v have_v be_v reason_n have_v it_o prove_v nor_o yet_o in_o the_o dark_a of_o it_o which_o be_v passion_n without_o dispute_n the_o second_o leg_n make_v of_o reason_n such_o as_o it_o be_v upon_o which_o this_o answer_n 16._o sect._n 16._o stand_v in_o the_o rational_a part_n of_o it_o be_v this_o that_o the_o opinion_n threaten_v with_o death_n in_o the_o ordinance_n the_o maker_n of_o the_o ordinance_n do_v certain●y_o know_v to_o be_v damnable_a heresy_n this_o they_o prove_v by_o this_o reason_n because_o they_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o manifest_a word_n of_o god_n and_o overthrow_v the_o very_a foundation_n of_o christian_a religion_n but_o by_o the_o way_n what_o if_o the_o maker_n of_o the_o ordinance_n which_o i_o and_o many_o more_o suppose_v to_o be_v man_n of_o clergie-order_n rather_o than_o person_n of_o any_o other_o interest_n or_o capacity_n have_v that_o certainty_n of_o knowledge_n which_o be_v here_o with_o so_o much_o confidence_n assert_v to_o they_o though_o this_o i_o confess_v be_v it_o grant_v will_v be_v somewhat_o to_o the_o syllogism_n though_o not_o much_o neither_o yet_o be_v it_o nothing_o at_o all_o to_o the_o querie_n from_o whence_o the_o syllogism_n pretend_v legitimacie_n of_o descent_n for_o certain_a i_o be_o that_o the_o querie_n deny_v it_o not_o if_o it_o be_v reply_v yea_o but_o it_o intimate_v a_o denial_n of_o i●_n i_o demand_v upon_o what_o ground_n be_v this_o supposition_n build_v or_o what_o reason_n be_v there_o to_o charge_v the_o querie_n with_o such_o a_o intimation_n if_o it_o be_v answer_v because_o it_o be_v frame_v upon_o occasion_n of_o the_o ordinance_n and_o own_v relation_n to_o it_o and_o therefore_o except_o some_o such_o supposition_n as_o this_o be_v virtual_o contain_v in_o it_o viz._n that_o the_o maker_n of_o the_o ordinance_n do_v not_o certain_o know_v the_o opinion_n threaten_v therein_o with_o death_n to_o be_v damnable_a heresy_n the_o querie_n be_v altogether_o eccentrical_a and_o irrelative_a to_o the_o point_n to_o which_o it_o pretend_v i_o answer_v that_o this_o be_v a_o most_o simple_a and_o unclerk-like_a allegation_n and_o no_o way_n demonstrative_a 17._o sect._n 17._o for_o first_o what_o though_o the_o querie_n be_v frame_v upon_o occasion_n of_o the_o 17._o sect._n 17._o ordinance_n yet_o be_v it_o not_o necessary_a that_o it_o shall_v speak_v to_o or_o of_o any_o of_o the_o particular_n contain_v in_o the_o ordinance_n when_o a_o man_n be_v below_o intend_v to_o go_v up_o into_o a_o chamber_n or_o upper_a room_n he_o do_v not_o set_v his_o first_o nor_o second_o nor_o three_o step_n into_o the_o
20._o the_o ordinance_n if_o they_o have_v judge_v this_o a_o damnable_a heresy_n contrary_a to_o the_o manifest_a word_n of_o god_n overthrow_v etc._n etc._n what_o reason_n can_v be_v give_v why_o they_o shall_v be_v more_o favourable_a to_o it_o refuse_v to_o charge_v it_o with_o death_n then_o unto_o many_o other_o upon_o which_o the_o thought_n meet_v to_o lay_v this_o heavy_a sentence_n conceive_v they_o to_o be_v opinion_n or_o doctrine_n of_o that_o deep_a demerit_n and_o dangerous_a import_n will_v these_o anti-querists_a charge_n this_o honourable_a house_n with_o injustice_n or_o partiality_n between_o doctrine_n and_o doctrine_n opinion_n and_o opinion_n howsoever_o second_o it_o be_v evident_a from_o the_o tenderness_n of_o this_o honourable_a 20._o sect._n 20._o house_n in_o not_o suffer_v the_o say_a opinion_n to_o pass_v for_o a_o damnable_a heresy_n etc._n etc._n that_o if_o the_o maker_n of_o the_o ordinance_n do_v certain_o know_v that_o all_o the_o opinion_n sentence_v therein_o with_o death_n be_v damnable_a heresy_n contrary_a to_o the_o manifest_a word_n of_o god_n overthrow_v etc._n etc._n that_o they_o know_v more_o than_o all_o the_o say_v honourable_a house_n beside_o which_o consider_v i_o summon_v all_o reader_n and_o person_n under_o heaven_n to_o consider_v and_o give_v sentence_n whether_o these_o son_n of_o shame_n ●nd_v folly_n have_v not_o much_o more_o reason_n if_o they_o dare_v to_o have_v vent_v that_o outrage_n of_o senseless_a choler_n and_o most_o unchristian_a passion_n against_o this_o honourable_a hose_n itself_o then_o against_o i_o which_o they_o pour_v out_o pag._n 5._o of_o their_o vindication_n or_o revenge_n rather_o in_o these_o word_n first_o to_o the_o querist_n who_o be_v you_o sir_n that_o have_v dare_v to_o conceive_v in_o your_o heart_n such_o a_o wickedness_n and_o blasphemy_n as_o this_o querie_n contain_v in_o the_o bowel_n of_o it_o look_v again_o upon_o the_o opinion_n which_o the_o ordinance_n threaten_v with_o death_n or_o if_o you_o will_v not_o i_o summon_v all_o reader_n in_o the_o name_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n to_o look_v upon_o they_o and_o to_o stand_v amaze_v at_o your_o impudence_n that_o have_v be_v so_o audacious_a as_o to_o affirm_v or_o insinuate_v which_o yet_o i_o have_v not_o do_v in_o the_o least_o as_o have_v be_v sufficient_o prove_v though_o these_o son_n of_o levi_n be_v so_o impudent_a and_o audacious_a as_o to_o calumniate_v i_o with_o it_o that_o all_o those_o thing_n or_o even_o any_o of_o they_o may_v for_o all_o that_o the_o parliament_n know_v or_o any_o that_o will_v not_o make_v himself_o infallible_a be_v the_o sacred_a truth_n of_o god_n and_o present_o after_o what_o be_v you_o that_o speak_v thus_o a_o atheist_n or_o a_o devil_n behold_v oh_o england_n a_o map_n of_o thy_o misery_n thy_o teacher_n imagine_v mischief_n in_o their_o heart_n they_o sharpen_v their_o tongue_n like_o a_o serpent_n adder_n poison_n be_v under_o their_o lip_n 3._o lip_n psal_n 140._o 3._o be_v such_o lip_n meet_v to_o preserve_v knowledge_n but_o why_o do_v they_o charge_v i_o and_o not_o the_o parliament_n rather_o with_o wickedness_n blasphemy_n impudence_n audaciousness_n 21._o sect._n 21._o why_o do_v they_o not_o ask_v the_o respective_a member_n thereof_o what_o be_v you_o that_o speak_v thus_o be_v you_o atheist_n or_o be_v you_o devil_n yea_o why_o do_v they_o not_o charge_v the_o assembly_n as_o they_o regard_v the_o honour_n of_o god_n and_o of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n etc._n etc._n to_o deliver_v they_o up_o unto_o satan_n that_o they_o may_v learn_v not_o to_o blaspheme_v they_o be_v the_o person_n against_o who_o the_o pretend_a ground_n of_o all_o these_o brutish_a vociferation_n lie_v not_o i_o they_o be_v they_o who_o if_o the_o forementioned_a intelligence_n be_v authentic_a and_o true_a have_v affirm_v or_o at_o least_o thorough_o insinuate_v that_o all_o the_o doctrine_n and_o opinion_n threaten_v in_o the_o ordinance_n with_o death_n be_v not_o certain_o know_v to_o they_o either_o to_o be_v damnable_a heresy_n or_o contrary_a to_o the_o manifest_a word_n of_o god_n or_o overthrow_v the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a religion_n they_o have_v declare_v their_o sense_n to_o the_o contrary_a and_o that_o upon_o a_o most_o weighty_a and_o christian_a ground_n for_o in_o as_o much_o as_o the_o scripture_n or_o manifest_a word_n of_o god_n do_v no_o where_n affirm_v that_o god_n be_v one_o in_o three_o person_n they_o have_v the_o great_a reason_n in_o the_o world_n not_o to_o sentence_v the_o denial_n thereof_o with_o death_n if_o once_o this_o door_n be_v open_v that_o the_o exposition_n or_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n or_o deduction_n from_o scripture_n make_v by_o man_n shall_v be_v make_v bind_v upon_o the_o judgement_n and_o conscience_n of_o other_o under_o civil_a mulct_n and_o penalty_n in_o any_o kind_n where_o or_o when_o or_o in_o what_o case_n shall_v it_o be_v shut_v or_o who_o shall_v be_v find_v meet_a to_o separate_v the_o vile_a from_o the_o precious_a in_o this_o kind_n i_o mean_v to_o determine_v what_o exposition_n or_o deduction_n they_o be_v the_o denial_n whereof_o shall_v deserve_v to_o be_v punish_v and_o again_o what_o or_o which_o of_o either_o kind_n they_o be_v that_o may_v be_v refuse_v without_o danger_n reader_n give_v i_o leave_v to_o try_v to_o cut_v the_o comb_n of_o these_o man_n 21._o sect._n 21._o confidence_n by_o propound_v a_o question_n to_o they_o i_o shall_v not_o ask_v they_o what_o they_o be_v whether_o they_o be_v atheist_n or_o devil_n they_o may_v possible_o have_v learn_v by_o this_o how_o to_o answer_v these_o question_n but_o the_o querie_n i_o shall_v put_v to_o they_o be_v this_o how_o or_o by_o what_o mean_n or_o upon_o what_o ground_n they_o themselves_o certain_o know_v that_o this_o opinion_n which_o be_v one_o of_o those_o which_o as_o have_v oft_o be_v say_v the_o ordinance_n threaten_v with_o death_n viz._n that_o god_n be_v not_o one_o in_o three_o person_n be_v either_o a_o damnable_a heresy_n or_o contrary_a to_o the_o manifest_a word_n of_o god_n or_o overthrow_v the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a religion_n certain_a i_o be_o that_o the_o scripture_n which_o we_o vulgar_a and_o unlearned_a one_o call_v the_o word_n of_o god_n it_o may_v be_v the_o seraphical_a doctor_n to_o 11._o sect._n 11._o who_o we_o now_o address_v have_v some_o other_o word_n of_o god_n which_o we_o know_v not_o of_o no_o where_n affirm_v or_o hold_v forth_o this_o that_o god_n be_v one_o in_o three_o person_n nor_o do_v it_o any_o where_o use_v the_o term_n or_o word_n person_n in_o reference_n unto_o god_n if_o it_o be_v reply_v and_o say_v yea_o but_o it_o plain_o affirm_v god_n to_o be_v one_o in_o three_o and_o it_o as_o plain_o ascribe_v to_o every_o of_o these_o three_o such_o thing_n which_o plain_o evince_v they_o to_o be_v so_o many_o person_n i_o answer_v first_o that_o my_o memory_n serve_v i_o as_o ill_o as_o the_o conscience_n and_o reason_n of_o these_o man_n serve_v their_o master_n in_o draw_v up_o their_o vindication_n that_o be_v quite_o fail_v i_o if_o the_o scripture_n any_o where_o plain_o affirm_v that_o god_n be_v one_o in_o three_o this_o certain_o be_v a_o phrase_n or_o expression_n which_o the_o scripture_n know_v not_o it_o be_v indeed_o say_v concern_v the_o father_n the_o word_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n that_o these_o three_o be_v one_o 8._o one_o 1_o joh._n 5._o 8._o but_o to_o say_v that_o god_n be_v one_o in_o these_o or_o any_o other_o three_z be_v the_o voice_n of_o man_n not_o of_o god_n therefore_o these_o gentleman_n can_v reasonable_o or_o with_o truth_n say_v that_o they_o certain_o know_v the_o denial_n of_o this_o to_o be_v a_o damnable_a heresy_n etc._n etc._n by_o the_o scripture_n at_o least_o not_o by_o the_o scripture_n alone_o without_o the_o mediation_n and_o interveen_n of_o their_o own_o reason_n and_o understanding_n to_o draw_v it_o forth_o by_o way_n of_o inference_n or_o deduction_n now_o then_o if_o the_o knowledge_n which_o they_o have_v of_o any_o conclusion_n suppose_v it_o be_v a_o truth_n depend_v though_o but_o in_o part_n upon_o the_o act_n &_o working_n of_o their_o own_o reason_n and_o understanding_n which_o be_v confess_o fallible_a and_o very_o obnoxious_a to_o mistake_n especial_o in_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n unpossible_a it_o be_v that_o this_o knowledge_n shall_v be_v certain_a yea_o though_o the_o ground_n or_o principle_n from_o whence_o they_o derive_v it_o be_v never_o so_o certain_a or_o infallible_a it_o be_v a_o know_a maxim_n in_o logic_n that_o conclusio_fw-la sequitur_fw-la deteriorem_fw-la partem_fw-la if_o either_o of_o the_o premise_n be_v but_o probable_a or_o contingent_a the_o conclusion_n raise_v from_o they_o will_v never_o be_v a_o necessary_a or_o certain_a truth_n i_o
his_o be_v in_o london_n though_o it_o be_v never_o so_o true_a that_o there_o he_o be_v yea_o and_o that_o he_o have_v inform_v peter_n of_o never_o so_o many_o thing_n it_o be_v not_o the_o ground_n cause_n or_o reason_n of_o any_o thing_n which_o necessary_o furnish_v a_o man_n with_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o thing_n but_o the_o apprehension_n and_o knowledge_n of_o they_o and_o that_o in_o their_o relation_n of_o causality_n unto_o the_o thing_n so_o that_o the_o vindicator_n be_v quite_o out_o in_o assign_v the_o contrariety_n which_o be_v in_o the_o opinion_n sentence_v in_o the_o ordinance_n to_o the_o manifest_a word_n of_o god_n together_o with_o their_o destructivenesse_n to_o the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a religion_n as_o a_o reason_n or_o ground_n why_o the_o maker_n of_o the_o ordinance_n must_v needs_o certain_o know_v they_o to_o be_v damnable_a heresy_n five_o whereas_o our_o querie_n opponent_n talk_v with_o so_o much_o peremptorinesse_n 24._o sect._n 24._o and_o importune_a confidence_n of_o a_o certain_a knewledge_n in_o the_o ordinance-maker_n and_o consequent_o in_o themselves_o that_o the_o opinion_n condemn_v in_o the_o ordinance_n be_v damnable_a heresy_n i_o be_o half_a jealous_a from_o the_o air_n of_o their_o confidence_n that_o 25._o sect._n 25._o they_o understand_v not_o what_o they_o say_v nor_o whereof_o they_o affirm_v 7._o affirm_v 1_o tim._n 1._o 7._o i_o mean_v that_o they_o know_v not_o or_o at_o least_o consider_v not_o what_o belong_v to_o a_o certainty_n of_o knowledge_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n and_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n it_o be_v a_o gracious_a and_o excellent_a degree_n of_o persuasion_n concern_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o much_o more_o concern_v the_o truth_n of_o particular_a doctrine_n in_o it_o when_o man_n be_v call_v to_o it_o by_o god_n be_v make_v able_a and_o willing_a thereby_o to_o lay_v down_o their_o life_n for_o they_o or_o in_o confirmation_n of_o they_o if_o themselves_o 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sancti_fw-la etc._n etc._n ut_fw-la est_fw-la renatorum_fw-la proprium_fw-la ita_fw-la solum_fw-la corda_fw-la eorum_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la de_fw-fr veritate_fw-la &_o authoritate_fw-la scripturae_fw-la sacrae_fw-la convincit_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la persuadet_fw-la ut_fw-la assentiantur_fw-la &_o in_o eâ_fw-la firmiter_fw-la acquiescant_fw-la reliqua_fw-la omne_fw-la communia_fw-la sunt_fw-la etiam_fw-la non_fw-la conversis_fw-la quos_fw-la quidem_fw-la etiam_fw-la convincunt_fw-la atque_fw-la ora_fw-la contradicentibus_fw-la obturant_fw-la sed_fw-la sola_fw-la non_fw-fr persuadent_fw-la nec_fw-la movent_fw-la ad_fw-la assentiendum_fw-la nisi_fw-la intus_fw-la testimonium_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la accedat_fw-la ursimus_n catech._n proleg_n c._n 4._o sect._n 14._o haec_fw-la cer●è_fw-la à_fw-la legentibus_fw-la &_o audientibus_fw-la percipiuntur_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la cum_fw-la fructu_fw-la fiat_fw-la &_o verâ_fw-la fide_fw-la necessarium_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la suorum_fw-la uniuscujusque_fw-la afflatu_fw-la spiri●ls_n svi_fw-la cor_fw-la tangat_fw-la ut_fw-la veritatem_fw-la divinam_fw-la in_o his_o scriptis_fw-la elucentem_fw-la agnoscat_fw-la ad_fw-la quorum_fw-la lumen_fw-la alioqui_fw-la ambulare_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la qui_fw-la spirituali_fw-la caecitate_fw-la detin●ntur_fw-la donee_n deus_fw-la iis_fw-la quibus_fw-la verbum_fw-la illud_fw-la legitur_fw-la aut_fw-la praedicatur_fw-la corda_n illuminet_fw-la sine_fw-la quo_fw-la spiritûs_fw-la motu_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la verae_fw-la testimonium_fw-la quod_fw-la medium_n ad_fw-la fidem_fw-la utile_fw-la etiam_fw-la censemus_fw-la sed_fw-la neque_fw-la unicum_fw-la neque_fw-la sufficiens_fw-la prorsus_fw-la esset_fw-la inefficax_n andr._n rivet_n isag_n cap._n ●_o sect._n 8._o quare_fw-la quod_fw-la piis_fw-la hominibus_fw-la sole_a clarius_fw-la est_fw-la illis_fw-la qui_fw-la sunt_fw-la mentibus_fw-la obtenebratis_fw-la quavis_fw-la est_fw-la caligine_fw-la obscurius_fw-la musc_n loc._n de_fw-fr sacris_fw-la scripture_n quare_fw-la si_fw-la nostrum_fw-la illud_fw-la credere_fw-la scripturae_fw-la pendet_fw-la à_fw-la spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-it quid_fw-la obstat_fw-la quò_fw-la minùs_fw-la concl●damus_fw-la quod_fw-la proposuimus_fw-la scripturae_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la quoad_fw-la nos_fw-la pendere_fw-la à_fw-la spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-it agente_fw-it in_o conscientiis_fw-la nostris_fw-la probatur_fw-la jam_fw-la minor_fw-la nemo_fw-la credit_n iis_fw-la quae_fw-la continentur_fw-la i●_n scripturâ_fw-la sanctâ_fw-la nisi_fw-la doctus_fw-la à_fw-la deo_fw-la at_o quicunque_fw-la credit_n scripturae_fw-la credit_n iis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la quae_fw-la continentur_fw-la in_o eâ_fw-la ergo_fw-la nemo_fw-la credit_n scripturae_fw-la nisi_fw-la doctus_fw-la à_fw-la deo_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la per_fw-la fidem_fw-la insusam_fw-la minor_n per_fw-la se_fw-la patet_fw-la quia_fw-la scripturae_fw-la credere_fw-la in_fw-la hac_fw-la saltem_fw-la controversiâ_fw-la est_fw-la eam_fw-la habere_fw-la pro_fw-la verè_fw-la divinâ_fw-la extráque_fw-la omnem_fw-la comparationis_fw-la aleam_fw-la chamier_n panstrat_n lib._n 6._o cap._n 3._o sect._n 2_o 3._o et_fw-la posteà_fw-la loquens_fw-la de_fw-fr augustino_n sic_fw-la bone_fw-la ille_fw-la pater_fw-la propriá_fw-la experientiâ_fw-la didicit_fw-la eam_fw-la fidem_fw-la quâ_fw-la amplectimur_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la esse_fw-la à_fw-la deo_fw-la non_fw-fr vero_fw-la acquisitum_fw-la aliquid_fw-la assert_v and_o seal_v up_o the_o truth_n of_o both_o in_o the_o conscience_n of_o man_n as_o a_o argument_n of_o that_o interest_n i_o mean_v as_o a_o argument_n demonstrative_o and_o infallible_o conclusive_a be_v it_o then_o such_o a_o hideous_a or_o enormous_a supposition_n as_o these_o man_n desire_v to_o inform_v the_o world_n in_o thunder_n and_o lightning_n or_o be_v it_o at_o any_o such_o distance_n from_o their_o own_o principle_n to_o suppose_v that_o man_n may_v possible_o not_o know_v certain_o the_o great_a truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o be_v truth_n and_o consequent_o not_o know_v certain_o that_o the_o opinion_n threaten_v with_o death_n in_o the_o ordinance_n be_v damnable_a heresy_n be_v there_o any_o thing_n more_o horrid_a or_o strange_a in_o such_o a_o supposition_n than_o there_o be_v in_o this_o that_o god_n have_v not_o by_o the_o supernatural_a infallible_a 26._o sect._n 26._o immedate_n work_n of_o his_o spirit_n reveal_v and_o seal_v up_o to_o the_o conscience_n of_o many_o man_n the_o unquestionable_a truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o be_v it_o any_o
cause_n so_o that_o whatsoever_o they_o shall_v say_v or_o argue_v in_o order_n unto_o this_o it_o receive_v this_o modification_n from_o between_o the_o efficient_a and_o the_o end_n it_o be_v sufficient_o argue_v and_o prove_v may_v they_o no●_n in_o a_o manner_n as_o well_o pretend_v and_o say_v when_o they_o have_v only_o cite_v those_o first_o word_n in_o genesis_n in_o the_o beginning_n god_n make_v heaven_n and_o earth_n that_o they_o have_v by_o this_o scripture_n sufficient_o prove_v the_o jus_fw-la divinum_fw-la of_o presbytery_n as_o make_v their_o boast_n that_o they_o have_v sufficient_o answer_v my_o second_o querie_n with_o those_o impertinent_a weak_a reasonless_a truthless_a allegation_n as_o have_v be_v abundant_o prove_v of_o which_o this_o answer_n so_o call_v be_v make_v but_o as_o it_o be_v in_o that_o old_a say_n among_o the_o roman_n between_o their_o two_o captain_n that_o ode●●●u●_n conquer_v but_o gallienus_n triumph_v so_o be_v it_o between_o the_o present_a syllogism_n and_o the_o answer_n to_o it_o the_o syllogism_n conquer_v and_o the_o answer_n triumph_v oh_o england_n my_o heart_n be_v enlarge_v towards_o thou_o and_o i_o will_v open_v my_o mouth_n proportionable_o unto_o thou_o take_v heed_n of_o the_o grand_a imposture_n of_o this_o word_n sufficient_o in_o the_o writing_n and_o in_o the_o teach_n of_o thy_o teacher_n they_o have_v learn_v to_o call_v their_o chaff_n wheat_n and_o to_o say_v of_o stone_n that_o they_o be_v bread_n but_o in_o what_o degree_n these_o man_n be_v straighten_v for_o want_v of_o reason_n 30._o sect._n 30._o in_o answer_v their_o own_o argument_n they_o be_v enlarge_v in_o 30._o sect._n 30._o passion_n against_o my_o querie_n but_o what_o be_v they_o so_o super-superlative_o incense_v against_o it_o because_o they_o be_v able_a to_o make_v no_o better_o work_v of_o answer_v it_o or_o di●_n th●_n spirit_n of_o it_o touch_v the_o apple_n of_o their_o eye_n and_o so_o through_o the_o extream●ty_n of_o the_o 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people_n with_o he_o may_v be_v avenge_v of_o their_o enemy_n speak_v unto_o the_o sun_n and_o moon_n to_o stand_v still_o sun_n stand_v thou_o still_o upon_o gibeon_n and_o thou_o moon_n in_o the_o valley_n of_o ajalon_n 12._o ajalon_n josh_n 10._o 12._o so_o do_v not_o these_o man_n their_o heart_n be_v set_v to_o take_v revenge_n upon_o the_o querist_n when_o they_o gird_v themselves_o to_o the_o work_n command_v their_o reason_n and_o consciensce_n to_o stand_v still_o and_o cease_v from_o their_o motion_n each_o of_o they_o respective_o direct_v themselves_o to_o their_o own_o and_o say_v reason_n stand_v thou_o still_o over_o passion_n and_o thou_o conscience_n in_o the_o valley_n of_o indignation_n until_o we_o have_v avenge_v ourselves_o in_o fire_n and_o brimstone_n upon_o our_o enemy_n that_o arch-enemy_n of_o our_o most_o belove_a design_n but_o if_o in_o the_o day_n of_o their_o answer_n i_o mean_v in_o the_o rational_a part_n of_o it_o we_o find_v nothing_o but_o night_n and_o darkness_n can_v we_o hope_v in_o the_o night_n thereof_o i_o mean_v the_o passionate_a part_n of_o it_o to_o find_v day_n or_o so_o much_o as_o the_o dawning_n of_o reason_n truth_n or_o understanding_n i_o have_v once_o thought_n of_o speak_v particular_o to_o every_o strain_n and_o passage_n herein_o but_o upon_o more_o mature_a debate_n with_o myself_o about_o the_o undertake_n i_o consider_v that_o in_o case_n i_o be_v a_o engineer_n i_o shall_v do_v but_o childish_o to_o load_v a_o cannon_n only_o to_o batter_v a_o mushroom_n or_o a_o bubble_n which_o child_n raise_v with_o soap_n and_o spittle_n out_o of_o a_o nutshell_n and_o thus_o our_o second_o querie_n that_o great_a abomination_n of_o classic_a soul_n have_v full_o recover_v herself_o out_o of_o those_o fog_n and_o 31._o sect._n 31._o mist_n which_o partly_o by_o the_o ignorance_n partly_o by_o the_o ill_a will_n of_o her_o adversary_n be_v spread_v round_o about_o she_o and_o shine_v in_o perfect_a beauty_n be_v only_o trouble_v and_o full_a of_o sorrow_n for_o this_o that_o ever_o she_o shall_v be_v a_o occasion_n to_o man_n pretend_v to_o religion_n of_o so_o much_o rebuke_v and_o shame_n as_o must_v needs_o fall_v upon_o those_o who_o have_v oppose_v she_o 31._o sect._n 31._o their_o three_o argument_n rejoice_v against_o their_o answer_n give_v to_o it_o because_o this_o also_o be_v build_v upon_o sandy_a foundation_n as_o 1._o that_o to_o be_v call_v rabbi_n be_v to_o require_v man_n to_o believe_v that_o which_o they_o teach_v they_o mere_o because_o they_o teach_v it_o without_o any_o authority_n from_o god_n in_o his_o word_n this_o be_v a_o most_o strange_a and_o truthless_a say_n and_o excuse_v scribe_n and_o pharisee_n and_o who_o not_o from_o ever_o desire_v to_o be_v call_v rabbi_n for_o certain_o none_o of_o these_o be_v ever_o so_o simple_a as_o to_o require_v man_n to_o believe_v that_o which_o they_o teach_v they_o mere_o because_o they_o teach_v it_o without_o any_o authority_n from_o god_n in_o his_o word_n there_o be_v none_o of_o they_o all_o but_o pretend_a authority_n from_o god_n in_o his_o word_n for_o what_o they_o teach_v but_o especial_o it_o be_v the_o firstborn_a of_o incredibility_n that_o they_o shall_v require_v man_n to_o believe_v what_o they_o teach_v they_o upon_o this_o ground_n mere_o because_o they_o teach_v it_o without_o any_o authority_n from_o god_n in_o his_o word_n can_v it_o enter_v into_o the_o heart_n of_o a_o man_n especial_o of_o any_o man_n that_o profess_v the_o service_n of_o the_o true_a god_n and_o belief_n of_o the_o scripture_n to_o think_v honourable_o of_o his_o teacher_n mere_o and_o simple_o because_o he_o teach_v without_o any_o authority_n from_o god_n in_o his_o word_n certain_o if_o the_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n have_v fish_v with_o this_o bait_n especial_o among_o the_o jew_n for_o the_o acclamation_n of_o rabbi_n they_o have_v catch_v nothing_o but_o contempt_n and_o shame_n in_o stead_n 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sufficient_a account_n or_o reason_n unto_o the_o prohibit_v 32._o sect._n 32._o to_o prove_v they_o so_o now_o i_o query_n the_o anti-querists_a whether_o the_o maker_n of_o the_o ordinance_n do_v not_o in_o this_o sense_n compel_v man_n to_o call_v they_o rabbi_n i._o whether_o they_o do_v not_o prohibit_v man_n under_o penalty_n and_o those_o most_o grievous_a from_o hold_v forth_o such_o and_o such_o doctrine_n as_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n without_o give_v any_o sufficient_a account_n or_o indeed_o any_o at_o all_o that_o i_o say_v not_o without_o be_v able_a to_o give_v any_o that_o be_v sufficient_a unto_o the_o person_n thus_o prohibit_v that_o they_o be_v indeed_o contrary_a to_o this_o word_n 2._o the_o answer_n now_o under_o correction_n be_v pollute_v with_o this_o unclean_a 32._o sect._n 32._o supposition_n viz._n that_o the_o maker_n of_o
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assertion_n it_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o reiteration_n in_o few_o word_n of_o those_o truthless_a reasonless_a sapless_a senseless_a imputation_n belch_v out_o against_o that_o querie_n and_o needs_o no_o other_o answer_n than_o what_o have_v be_v already_o at_o large_a give_v to_o it_o but_o 4._o and_o last_o this_o answer_n be_v a_o most_o notorious_a delinquent_n 33._o sect._n 33._o against_o the_o truth_n in_o assert_v that_o those_o that_o have_v any_o sense_n of_o religion_n 40._o sect._n 40._o know_v whether_o the_o magistrate_n shall_v recommend_v they_o or_o not_o those_o doctrine_n viz._n which_o be_v any_o way_n sentence_v in_o the_o ordinance_n for_o the_o querie_n on_o which_o this_o argument_n pretend_v to_o be_v build_v query_n concern_v all_o the_o doctrine_n specify_v in_o the_o ordinance_n to_o be_v the_o sacred_a truth_n of_o god_n as_o be_v the_o know_a principle_n of_o christianity_n and_o clear_o to_o be_v prove_v out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n certain_o there_o have_v be_v and_o be_v thousand_o thousand_o in_o the_o world_n who_o have_v have_v as_o rich_a and_o deep_a a_o sense_n of_o religion_n as_o our_o anti-querie-master_n themselves_o who_o never_o esteem_v either_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o presbytery_n or_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o baptise_v infant_n or_o the_o be_v of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n true_a church_n with_o many_o doctrine_n more_o punishable_a by_o the_o ordinance_n to_o be_v any_o of_o the_o know_a principle_n of_o christianity_n nay_o do_v there_o any_o until_o now_o even_o among_o those_o who_o judgement_n stand_v for_o church-government_n by_o presbytery_n or_o that_o hold_v the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o be_v true_a church_n ever_o assert_v these_o for_o the_o know_a principle_n of_o christianity_n that_o n._n b._n aught_o to_o be_v parson_n or_o pastor_n of_o the_o parish-church_n of_o d_o or_o that_o m._n n._n aught_o to_o stand_v in_o the_o same_o relation_n to_o the_o parish-church_n of_o another_o d._n be_v not_o these_o also_o the_o know_a principle_n of_o christianity_n o_o church_n or_o church_n of_o england_n be_v you_o true_a or_o be_v you_o false_a as_o you_o love_v the_o thing_n of_o your_o peace_n look_v out_o better_a oracle_n than_o such_o teacher_n as_o these_o to_o consult_v with_o about_o the_o principle_n of_o your_o christianity_n in_o their_o four_o argument_n as_o likewise_o in_o their_o answer_n to_o it_o they_o 34._o sect._n 34._o take_v no_o notice_n at_o all_o of_o what_o the_o querie_n honest_o desire_v to_o remind_v they_o viz._n of_o any_o die_v themselves_o for_o the_o maintenance_n and_o defence_n of_o their_o religion_n but_o only_o of_o put_v other_o to_o death_n for_o th●se_a end_n i_o hope_v they_o do_v not_o intimate_v hereby_o that_o their_o life_n be_v dear_a to_o they_o than_o their_o religion_n though_o other_o man_n life_n be_v not_o well_o but_o how_o do_v they_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v christian_a to_o maintain_v religion_n by_o put_v other_o to_o death_n though_o they_o know_v not_o it_o seem_v what_o to_o say_v of_o maintain_v it_o by_o die_v themselves_o their_o proof_n be_v that_o staple_n commodity_n in_o the_o classic_a trade_n viz._n the_o law_n of_o god_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n which_o command_v false_a prophet_n and_o blasphemer_n and_o those_o that_o seduce_v to_o idolatry_n to_o be_v put_v to_o death_n but_o if_o i_o shall_v go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o man_n moses_n be_v now_o alive_a by_o this_o argument_n viz._n because_o he_o be_v alive_a under_o the_o old_a testament_n shall_v i_o not_o spread_v a_o table_n of_o mirth_n for_o these_o man_n or_o if_o i_o shall_v go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o such_o or_o such_o a_o habit_n be_v of_o the_o french_a fashion_n because_o it_o be_v of_o 34._o sect._n 34._o the_o spanish_a will_v they_o approve_v my_o logic_n if_o they_o do_v i_o shall_v scarce_o approve_v of_o their_o approbation_n and_o be_v there_o any_o 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reason_n must_v take_v place_n and_o be_v in_o force_n also_o but_o of_o how_o ill_o a_o compliance_n such_o a_o reason_n or_o assertion_n as_o this_o be_v with_o the_o truth_n will_v sufficient_o appear_v by_o these_o parallel_n abraham_n receive_v the_o sign_n of_o circumcision_n a_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n 11._o faith_n rom._n 4._o 11._o i._o in_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o seal_n or_o that_o it_o may_v be_v a_o seal_n unto_o he_o and_o his_o posterity_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n but_o this_o end_n of_o circumcision_n the_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n still_o take_v place_n i._n it_o be_v still_o necessary_a that_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n be_v seal_v unto_o man_n therefore_o circumcision_n or_o the_o law_n command_v circumcision_n be_v still_o in_o force_n take_v another_o god_n command_v the_o child_n of_o israel_n under_o the_o old_a testament_n to_o make_v they_o fringe_n in_o the_o border_n of_o their_o garment_n throughout_o their_o generation_n there_o be_v no_o such_o clause_n as_o this_o in_o the_o law_n for_o put_v blasphemer_n or_o idolater_n to_o death_n for_o the_o perpetuation_n of_o it_o and_o that_o they_o put_v upon_o the_o fringe_n of_o the_o border_n a_o ribbon_n of_o blue_a and_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v unto_o they_o for_o a_o fringe_n that_o they_o may_v look_v upon_o it_o and_o remember_v all_o the_o commandment_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o do_v they_o and_o that_o they_o seek_v not_o after_o their_o own_o heart_n and_o their_o own_o eye_n 39_o eye_n num._n 15._o 38_o 39_o but_o the_o end_n of_o these_o fringe_n and_o of_o the_o look_v of_o they_o viz._n the_o remember_v of_o all_o the_o commandment_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o the_o do_v of_o they_o and_o the_o not_o seek_v after_o our_o own_o heart_n or_o eye_n take_v place_n and_o be_v still_o
when_o there_o be_v one_o mean_n not_o only_o sufficient_a but_o mighty_a or_o potent_a also_o through_o god_n to_o effect_v it_o certain_a i_o be_o that_o it_o be_v none_o of_o god_n method_n so_o to_o do_v if_o there_o have_v be_v a_o law_n say_v the_o apostle_n that_o can_v have_v give_v life_n sure_o righteousness_n shall_v have_v be_v by_o the_o law_n 21._o law_n gal._n 3._o 21._o imply_v that_o if_o god_n have_v sufficient_o provide_v for_o the_o justification_n and_o salvation_n of_o his_o creature_n one_o way_n or_o by_o one_o mean_n he_o will_v never_o have_v add_v another_o as_o a_o competitor_n with_o it_o upon_o this_o principle_n that_o reason_v also_o of_o his_o stand_n i_o do_v not_o abrogate_v the_o grace_n of_o god_n for_o if_o righteousness_n be_v by_o the_o law_n than_o christ_n die_v in_o vain_a ●_o vain_a gal_n 2._o 21._o ●_o clear_o imply_v that_o to_o assert_v a_o sufficiency_n much_o more_o a_o mightiness_n or_o potency_n in_o the_o law_n for_o justification_n plain_o abrogate_v and_o make_v void_a the_o grace_n of_o god_n in_o give_v christ_n to_o die_v for_o our_o justification_n in_o like_a manner_n they_o who_o grant_v that_o spiritual_a weapon_n be_v mighty_a through_o god_n to_o cast_v down_o adultery_n murder_n theft_n etc._n etc._n abrogate_v the_o sword_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o relation_n to_o the_o cast_v down_o of_o these_o and_o such_o like_a sin_n therefore_o certain_o the_o gentleman_n do_v but_o beat_v the_o air_n in_o affirm_v that_o whoredom_n adultery_n murder_n theft_n etc._n etc._n be_v some_o of_o the_o strong_a hold_v mention_v 2_o cor._n 10._o 4._o second_o the_o say_a answer_n lean_v in_o the_o best_a of_o its_o strength_n 45._o sect._n 45._o upon_o this_o supposition_n or_o assertion_n rather_o that_o the_o spreader_n of_o error_n and_o heresy_n be_v certain_o rank_v in_o the_o scripture_n among_o those_o evil_a doer_n against_o who_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n be_v the_o minister_n of_o god_n to_o 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examine_v and_o judge_v who_o be_v lawful_a magistrate_n i._n e._n endue_v with_o the_o true_a knowledge_n of_o god_n &c_n &c_n and_o consequent_o may_v lawful_o as_o minister_n of_o god_n execute_v wrath_n against_o they_o that_o do_v evil_a and_o if_o so_o who_o shall_v these_o examiner_n and_o judge_n be_v or_o according_a to_o what_o rule_v or_o direction_n shall_v they_o proceed_v in_o this_o important_a affair_n but_o this_o i_o presume_v be_v so_o apparent_a that_o we_o shall_v not_o need_v contend_v further_o for_o it_o second_o it_o be_v altogether_o inconsistent_a with_o the_o wisdom_n and_o goodness_n of_o god_n in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o world_n so_o much_o as_o to_o interest_n much_o more_o to_o lay_v a_o necessity_n upon_o his_o deputy_n the_o civil_a magistrate_n or_o ruler_n hereof_o to_o interpose_v with_o their_o power_n in_o such_o thing_n whereof_o for_o the_o generality_n and_o far_o the_o great_a part_n of_o they_o he_o know_v they_o will_v be_v not_o only_o ignorant_a but_o uncapable_a yea_o and_o not_o only_o they_o i_o mean_v the_o magistrate_n themselves_o but_o even_o far_o the_o great_a part_n of_o man_n also_o yea_o even_o those_o man_n themselves_o who_o he_o know_v will_v pretend_v with_o as_o much_o height_n and_o confidence_n to_o a_o knowledge_n of_o they_o as_o any_o other_o and_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o matter_n of_o error_n and_o heresy_n in_o christian_a religion_n be_v of_o this_o nature_n at_o least_o a_o very_a great_a part_n of_o they_o for_o who_o do_v ever_o pretend_v challenge_v or_o claim_v a_o deep_a insight_n into_o matter_n of_o error_n and_o heresy_n in_o christian_a religion_n a_o great_a sufficiency_n or_o dexterity_n to_o judge_v and_o determine_v what_o be_v error_n what_o not_o what_o be_v heresy_n what_o not_o than_o the_o papal_a bishop_n and_o clergy_n in_o the_o day_n of_o their_o power_n and_o especial_o the_o pope_n himself_o and_o yet_o we_o know_v and_o general_o confess_v that_o all_o these_o be_v incompetent_a and_o insufficient_a judge_n in_o such_o matter_n as_o these_o &_o that_o they_o do_v from_o time_n to_o time_n put_v darkness_n for_o light_n and_o light_n for_o darkness_n bitter_a for_o sweet_a and_o sweet_a for_o bitter_a condemn_v truth_n to_o death_n instead_o of_o error_n advance_v error_n instead_o of_o truth_n three_o if_o magistrate_n as_o such_o be_v uncapable_a themselves_o of_o 46._o sect._n 46._o discern_v between_o error_n and_o truth_n in_o christian_a religion_n as_o put_v the_o case_n between_o the_o congregationall_a government_n and_o that_o of_o presbytery_n which_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o which_o not_o or_o whether_o both_o or_o whether_o neither_o to_o who_o or_o to_o what_o generation_n of_o man_n can_v they_o safe_o entrust_v their_o judgement_n and_o conscience_n in_o this_o case_n for_o regulation_n and_o direction_n so_o as_o to_o run_v 46_o sect._n 46_o no_o hazard_n of_o incur_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n for_o smite_v with_o the_o sword_n without_o cause_n if_o it_o be_v say_v they_o must_v and_o may_v safe_o trust_v the_o godly_a orthodox_n and_o faithful_a minister_n among_o who_o they_o live_v i_o answer_v first_o put_v the_o case_n there_o be_v no_o such_o vein_n of_o minister_n as_o these_o or_o however_o none_o who_o they_o can_v look_v upon_o as_o such_o within_o their_o territory_n what_o shift_n shall_v they_o then_o make_v for_o such_o a_o address_n second_o if_o they_o themselves_o be_v uncapable_a which_o be_v the_o supposition_n now_o argue_v upon_o and_o it_o have_v be_v prove_v that_o general_o they_o be_v uncapable_a of_o discern_v between_o truth_n and_o error_n in_o question_n and_o matter_n of_o doubtful_a disputation_n in_o christian_a religion_n how_o shall_v they_o be_v able_a to_o know_v or_o satisfy_v themselves_o who_o be_v faithful_a and_o orthodox_n and_o who_o not_o he_o that_o can_v judge_v what_o be_v erour_n and_o what_o be_v truth_n can_v 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