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A94272 A treatise of the schism of England. Wherein particularly Mr. Hales and Mr. Hobbs are modestly accosted. / By Philip Scot. Permissu superiorum. Scot, Philip. 1650 (1650) Wing S942; Thomason E1395_1; ESTC R2593 51,556 285

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