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A42386 A brief examination of the present Roman Catholick faith contained in Pope Pius his new creed, by the Scriptures, antient fathers and their own modern writers, in answer to a letter desiring satisfaction concerning the visibility of the protestant church and religion in all ages, especially before Luther's time. Gardiner, Samuel, 1619 or 20-1686. 1689 (1689) Wing G244; ESTC R29489 119,057 129

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who_o yet_o do_v not_o worship_v they_o as_o god_n any_o more_o than_o papist_n but_o only_o as_o messenger_n or_o mediator_n betwixt_o god_n and_o man_n elsewhere_o he_o ask_v the_o roman_a church_n which_o she_o shall_v remember_v how_o shall_v they_o call_v on_o he_o i._n e._n lawful_o on_o who_o they_o have_v not_o believe_v but_o we_o believe_v in_o god_n only_o not_o in_o any_o saint_n or_o angel._n how_o shall_v we_o then_o call_v on_o they_o i_o may_v add_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v no_o certainty_n even_o of_o humane_a faith_n that_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n know_v our_o want_n or_o hear_v our_o prayer_n for_o they_o know_v not_o on_o what_o ground_n to_o settle_v this_o belief_n some_o fly_v to_o extraordinary_a revelation_n some_o to_o the_o brittle_a and_o voluntary_a glass_n of_o the_o trinity_n some_o to_o the_o report_n of_o angel_n intrude_a into_o the_o thing_n they_o have_v not_o see_v nor_o