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A91797 Some briefe considerations on Doctor Featley his book, intituled, The dipper dipt, wherein in some measure is discovered his many great and false accusations of divers persons, commonly called Anabaptists, with an answer to them, and some brief reasons of their practice. In seven sections, viz. I. Dr. Featley his secret and haynous accusing the honourable Parliament. II. That he is guilty of greater errors, than to go into the water to be dipt. ... VI. Some reasons alledged against infants being baptized. A question proposed to consideration, that if it be an error to be baptized again, whether the punishment, some would have inflicted upon them, and some have suffered, be not too great? VII. How many sorts of Anabaptists he saith there are, and what they hold. Whereunto is added, what is conceived the Doctors mysticall frontispiece may more properly declare. / By Samuel Richardson. Richardson, Samuel, fl. 1643-1658. 1645 (1645) Wing R1414; Thomason E270_22; ESTC R212288 20,332 22

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19. When they beleeved they were baptized both men and women Acts 8. 12 13. If thou beleevest with all thy heart thou mayst be baptized Acts 8. 36 37 38. Repent and be baptized Acts 2. 38. And they that gladly received the Word were baptized vers. 41. And they were baptized in Jordan confessing their sinnes Matth. 3. 6. Mark 1. 4. 5. Such as have received the holy Spirit are so to be baptized Acts 10. 44 47 48. Thirdly the time when they are to be baptized when they declare their faith Acts 8. 37. 38. they are not to tarry but to bee baptized as soon as possibly they can as Acts 22. 16. Fourthly the Element water Fifthly and the manner how they are to be baptized they were to be dipped in the name of the three Persons Matth. 28. 19. they were dipped in Jordan Matth. 3. 6. Jesus being baptized went straightway out of the water Matth. 3. 16. John was dipping that is baptizing in Aenon John 3. 23. And they went both down into the water and baptized him Acts 8. 38. So you see it is plainly set downe what persons are to be baptized who are to baptize them when they were to be baptized and the manner how they were to be baptized therefore the new Testament is as cleare as the old and Christ as faithfull as Moses to appoint how every thing should be done and also that such persons that are so qualified as aforesaid have right to baptisme and none but they because God excludes all from his holy covenant and to have any right in the outward dispensations thereof but onely such as beleeve Rom. 11. 20. Heb. 3. 18. 19. 4. 1 2 3. 11. 5. 6. Rom. 9. 7 8. Gal. 3. 22 26 29. God denies fellowship and communion with them that doe not beleeve John 3. 5 6 36. Heb. 11. 6. Rom. 8. 9. onely such as he hath elected in Christ and so appeare by some fruit and effect of the same as appeares Rom. 8. 29. 30. Rom. 11. 7. Ephes. 1. 4 5 6. 2 Thess. 2. 13 14. 1 Pet. 1. 2. Acts 2. 47. Acts 13. 48. Those that God owns for his are purchased by his blood who are called chosen and faithful 1 Pet. 2. 5. 9. Jam. 4. 23. Ephes. 2. 19 20 21 22. 4. 16. 1 Cor. 12 12 13. Ephes. 5. 25 26 27. Acts 20. 28. Rev. 17. 14. And because infants have not repentance from dead workes and faith towards God which precedes baptisme as appeares Heb. 6. 1 2. Acts 8. 36. 37. Acts 2. 38. So also rising with Christ is an act required of all that are baptized which act infants cannot performe Col. 2. 12. therefore they are not fit subjects of baptisme also infants are not to be accounted such as beleeve as appeares Rom. 10. 14. If any say we cannot require faith and repentance of infants I answer no more can we require them to be baptized Baptisme presupposeth it being an ordinance to confirme grace none can rightly presuppose grace without some appearing ground seeing faith obedience to Christ is not naturall but baptisme is forced upon infants against their wills contrary to Zeph. 3. 9. Object But infants may have grace Answ. What doth not appear is secret and secret things belong to God Deut. 29. 29. what infants may have is one thing and what they can be proved to have is another wee pronounce nothing of infants but leave them to the Lord Object Baptisme succeeds Circumcision therefore as infants were circumcised then so are infants to be baptized now Answ. Circumcision of the heart succeeds in the place of circumcision in the flesh as appeares Rom. 2. 29. Circumcision made without hands commeth in place of circumcision made with hands as Col. 2. 11. with Ephes. 2. 11. As circumcision of the flesh was an earnest of the inheritance of the land of Canaan to the Israelites the holy Spirit of promise is the spirituall seale and earnest of our inheritance Ephes. 1. 13 14. And if baptisme did succeed circumcision yet the subject of the new Testament doth not succeed the Old for no rejected Esau or Ismaelite are to be admitted either to union or communion with the Church of Christ under the new Testament the two Testaments are as two Wills containing legacies bequeathed to such whose names are expresly set down in the same as Rev. 21. 27. In the old Testament as the first Will a male of 8 dayes old or a Proselyte Exod. 12. 48 49. Gen. 17. 10. 14. 23. 25. John 8. Phil. 3. 4. 5. So in the new Testament as the last Will of Christ the legacies therein contained are given to such as beleeve none else Gal. 3. 14 23 29. Rom. 8. 17. 14. 11 12. Gal. 3. 6. 7. these are begotten again by the Word born of the Spirit the children of God the true heirs of the kingdom of Christ wth the privileges therof as Jam. 1. 18. 1 Pet. 2. 23. John 1. 12. 13. 1 Jo●. 3. 9. 10. Those that beleeve are the seed of the righteous of the promise Esay 43. 5. with Rev. 12. 17. Gal. 4. 26. 31. Infants not being such are not to be baptized The new Testament succeeded the old therfore must we observe the same order they did all the whole houshold of every family among the Israelites in Egypt as well children as others were to eat the Passover Exod. 12. 3. 4. and the Lords Supper succeeded that then it followes children and all must eat the Supper besides God did never take in the body of the Gentiles to be his Church as hee did the Jewes ergo the argument is not the same The Jewes Church stood not by faith and circumcision of heart as the Church of the Gospel doth but stood meerely upon nature and circumcision of the flesh Object But baptisme is as large as circumcision Ergo Infants Answ. Baptisme is both to male and female therefore larger circumcision was only to males Baptisme is both to Jew Gentile and so is the covenant yet infants are not to be baptized Obj. But Believers children are holy 1 Cor. 7. 14. therefore are to be baptized Ans. This doctrine takes away the being of actuall sin else they could not be holy this is contrary to Psal. 51. 5. the unbelieving wife is termed holy in the same place therefore shee must also be baptized as well as the child so the unbelieving Jewes were termed holy when they were broken off Rom. 11. 16. What is it to be holy it may be you will say to be under the Covenant I demand when do Infants come under the Covenant when they are conceived or when they are born or when their parents are converted if it bee answered that Infants begotten of believing parents come under the Covenant in their conception Psal. 51. 5. and Infants borne come under the Covenant when their parents are regenerate then it appeareth that the Covenant is conveyed to their children by generation and
freely confesse it and I perceive the Doctor hath skill in one tongue that will never doe him good and I desire to be ignorant of it but one may wonder that he so much inveyeth against illiterate men seeing he saith in p. 200. that God in the first planting of the Gospel made use of illiterat men that all may know that he that planteth and he that watereth is nothing and further saith p. 14. I confesse we read of one Fumentius a lay-man who in his travels converted many to the Christian Faith and Dr. Fulk confesseth in his Confutation of the Rhemist Testament of a woman that converted a great many of them who lived in the Island to which place she was carried captive But Dr. Featley saith the learnedst men have proved the worthiest Instruments bravely spoken 2 Cor. 10. 17 18. the summe is therefore now all illiterate men must for ever hold their peace at least in England and in case any travell into any Island where there are some unconverted if there be no Doctors there illiterate men may see what God will do by them But the Doctor chargeth the Anabaptists p. 10. to be uncertain of their grounds because sometimes they plead one thing and sometimes another Answ. No variety of grounds and reasons against a thing may arise from the clear discovery of the truth to them and from fulnesse of perswasion in the judgement as illiterate men conceive But saith the Doctor in his Epistle the Separation and Anabaptists upbraid the State with their merit in hazarding their lives and estates in these present wars Answ. No such matter they do but only declare their loyalty to the State being urged to it by some who falsly accuse them to be enemies to the State and I conceive they accuse them to be enemies out of a desire that they be lesse friends to it and some conceive the Doctor and such as he is seek the destruction of the State in seeking to deprive the State of the help of many who are faithfull and loyall to it But saith he Anabaptisme was condemned long since by the Greek and Latine Churches mark how the Doctor bears himself upon humane authority then it seems you cannot say it is condemned by Jesus Christ in his Word but the Doctor confesseth that generall Councels have sometimes most grossely mistaken error for truth and Idolatry for true Religion p. 92. then it 's no wonder if the Doctor erre with his Greek and Latine Church and seeing the Doctor affirms that the example of Christ and his Apostles doth not bind us without a precept p. 37 38. with what reason or conscience doth he urge against us yea and against Christs command his Greek and Latine Churches without a precept doth he not set them herein above Christ himself The Papists pretend antiquity and brag of their universality against the truth Wee know error is ancient and spreading but truth was before error and baptizing by dipping was before baptizing by sprinkling he may name to us as many men as he pleaseth but hee must tell us where it is so written in the Scriptures so as we may reade it before we shall believe them Luke 10. 26. But the Doctor chargeth us in his book with many things that we hold That no malefactor ought to be put to death That it is lawfull to have more wives then one at once That a man may put away his wife if shee differ from him in point of religion That we are to goe naked and not be ashamed That we hold it lawfull to slay wicked Magistrates That no Christian may goe to law but right himselfe by violent means That wicked men have no propriety in their goods but all things ought to be held in common That we maintain pretended Revelations That Christ took not flesh of the virgin Mary That there is no originall sinne That men have free will in spirituall actions That election is for foreseen faith and repentance That God gives all men sufficient grace to be saved That a man hath free will of himself to accept or refuse grace That Christ died indifferently alike for all That a true beleever may fall away from grace totally and finally And that wee hold Libertinisme Familisme and such like stuffe which we utterly abhorre and detest and if God permit wee shall in the next impression of the Confession of our Faith more fully declare jointly what we believe and therefore I will not answer his exceptions which he makes at some of the Articles but leave it to them to answer for themselves which will be ere long if God permit but sure I am all this poyson which he chargeth upon us is drawn out of the impure fountaine of divers Heretikes in which he laboureth to drown us in and I wonder how his conscience would permit him to heave so many untruths into the Presse but as Christ saith Iohn 16. 2. and he was encouraged by Sleiden Gabriel Abres Alstedius and others oh me thinkes I heare the Presse grone if not sweat under the burden of so many heavie charges and sure his grones will be much greater when God opens his eyes and shews him what he hath done which the Lord in mercy doe if it be his will I hope I may say as Christ did Father forgive him for he knowes not what he hath done Matth. 5. 44. ●1 12. Sect. IV. Whererin appeares in the Doctors disputation his subtilty and pride AFter he had condemned the point in question for an error the Doctor saith I could wish you had brought Scholars with you who know how to dispute which I perceive you cannot do Answ. Observe how before he disputes hee vilifies the point in question and those that maintain it But saith the Doctor there are but two wayes of disputing first by authority secondly by reason First by authority if you will dispute in Divinity you must be able to produce the Scriptures in the originall language Answ. But why may you not as well say none can dispute in divinity unlesse they can produce the same copy of the Scriptures which the Apostles wrote and seeing you cannot do that you are not fit to dispute your self for saith hee in translations there may be and are errors for no translation is are simply authenticall and the undoubted Word of God We may say the same of your Hebrew and Greek copies seeing you cannot produce the first copy how know you but your copies are written and printed false see pag. 109. Can no Writer if he pleaseth write contrary to his copy as for printing I may say the same printing is not above 250. yeers standing Dr. Fulk in confutation of the Rhemist Testament justifieth the English translation of the Bible and you have the same reason to doubt of the writing or printing of your copy as wee of our translation and if you may depend upon the Writer or Printer of your copies why may not we do the same