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A84760 A sober answer to an angry epistle, directed to all the publick teachers in this nation, and prefixed to a book, called (by an antiphrasis) Christs innocency pleaded against the cry of the chief priests. Written in hast by Thomas Speed, once a publick teacher himself, and since revolted from that calling to merchandize, and of late grown a merchant of soules, trading subtilly for the Quakers in Bristoll. Wherein the jesuiticall equivocations and subtle insinuations, whereby he endeavours secretly to infuse the whole venome of Quaking doctrines, into undiscerning readers, are discovered; a catlogue of the true and genuine doctrines of the Quakers is presented, and certaine questions depending between us and them, candidly disputed, / by [brace] Christopher Fowler & Simon Ford, [brace] ministers of the Gospel in Reding, Fowler, Christopher, 1610?-1678.; Ford, Simon, 1619?-1699. 1656 (1656) Wing F1694; Thomason E883_1; ESTC R207293 63,879 81

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for_o priest_n which_o law_n differ_v from_o that_o of_o tithe_n very_o much_o however_o that_o scripture_n will_v not_o stead_v you_o without_o interpretation_n and_o that_o you_o renounce_v but_o to_o gratify_v you_o we_o will_v suppose_v your_o meaning_n and_o interpretation_n sect._n 24_o for_o once_o though_o that_o be_v more_o favour_n than_o you_o will_v show_v we_o and_o upon_o your_o own_o supposition_n try_v one_o argument_n with_o you_o and_o that_o be_v this_o if_o the_o abolition_n of_o the_o law_n of_o tithe_n depend_v upon_o the_o abolition_n of_o the_o priesthood_n to_o which_o they_o be_v due_a then_o we_o hope_v you_o will_v allow_v we_o that_o if_o the_o priesthood_n to_o which_o tithe_n be_v once_o due_a and_o that_o before_o the_o leviticall_a priesthood_n be_v not_o abolish_v the_o law_n of_o tithe_n to_o that_o priesthood_n be_v not_o abolish_v but_o we_o shall_v prove_v that_o the_o priesthood_n to_o which_o tithe_n be_v once_o due_a and_o that_o long_a before_o the_o leviticall_a priesthood_n be_v in_o be_v be_v not_o abolish_v which_o if_o we_o do_v we_o hope_v we_o may_v be_v allow_v to_o conclude_v therefore_o there_o be_v no_o abolishment_n of_o the_o law_n of_o tithe_n but_o it_o be_v still_o in_o force_n that_o the_o priesthood_n to_o which_o tithe_n be_v original_o due_a be_v not_o abolish_v we_o prove_v thus_o from_o the_o same_o chapter_n the_o priesthood_n to_o which_o tithe_n be_v before_o the_o leviticall_a priesthood_n due_a be_v the_o melchizedekian_n priesthood_n but_o the_o melchizedekian_n priesthood_n or_o priesthood_n after_o the_o order_n of_o melchizedek_n be_v not_o abolish_v for_o it_o be_v christ_n priesthood_n heb._n 16_o 17_o verse_n therefore_o the_o priesthood_n to_o which_o tithe_n be_v original_o due_a be_v not_o abolish_v all_o that_o we_o suppose_v herein_o be_v to_o be_v prove_v be_v that_o tithe_n be_v due_a to_o melchizedek_v order_n of_o priesthood_n and_o so_o still_o remain_v sect._n 25_o due_a to_o christ_n who_o be_v a_o priest_n for_o ever_o after_o that_o order_n now_o for_o proof_n of_o this_o we_o refer_v you_o high_o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n viz._n to_o v._o 4._o and_o thence_o down_o to_o the_o 10._o and_o we_o desire_v you_o to_o consider_v with_o we_o these_o three_o reason_n from_o the_o text_n to_o prove_v that_o abraham_n pay_v tithe_n to_o melchizedek_n as_o a_o due_a 1._o you_o pretend_v to_o skill_n in_o the_o original_a tongue_n and_o therefore_o you_o will_v not_o be_v offend_v if_o we_o argue_v from_o it_o as_o you_o do_v more_o than_o once_o or_o twice_o abraham_n in_o the_o apostle_n phrase_n 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d v._o 9_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d v._o 6._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d v._o 5._o be_v say_v to_o be_v tithe_v by_o melchizedek_n and_o melchizedek_n to_o tithe_v he_o v._o 6._o 9_o which_o be_v the_o very_a same_o word_n original_o with_o that_o which_o be_v use_v in_o the_o son_n of_o levi's_fw-la tithing_n of_o the_o people_n by_o commandment_n v._o 5._o now_o if_o the_o word_n as_o apply_v to_o the_o levite_n signify_v to_o require_v tithe_n as_o it_o do_v it_o seem_v unlikely_a it_o be_v use_v with_o relation_n to_o melchizedek_n to_o denote_v a_o receive_n of_o tithe_n by_o way_n of_o gratuity_n only_o 2._o we_o desire_v you_o to_o consider_v the_o scope_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o that_o place_n which_o be_v to_o advance_v melchizedek_v priesthood_n as_o a_o order_n superior_a to_o levi's_fw-la this_o the_o apostle_n prove_v because_o levi_n himself_o in_o abraham_n loin_n pay_v tithe_n to_o melchizedek_n v._o 9_o now_o have_v melchizedek_n receive_v tithe_n from_o levi_n in_o abraham_n loin_n as_o of_o courtesy_n only_o and_o not_o of_o debt_n it_o will_v have_v be_v a_o poor_a argument_n to_o prove_v melchizedek_n a_o great_a priest_n which_o will_v as_o well_o prove_v a_o beggar_n a_o great_a man_n than_o a_o prince_n because_o the_o beggar_n receive_v from_o he_o it_o may_v be_v a_o sum_n of_o money_n out_o of_o his_o courtesy_n 3._o we_o desire_v you_o to_o consider_v that_o abraham_n pay_v the_o tithe_n to_o melchizedek_n with_o relation_n to_o his_o blessing_n of_o he_o which_o be_v a_o act_n of_o his_o priestly_a office_n and_o show_v melchizedek_n to_o be_v abraham_n and_o so_o levi's_fw-la superior_a v._o 6_o 7._o so_o that_o melchizedek_n as_o a_o priest_n receive_v tithe_n of_o abraham_n and_o christ_n in_o melchizedek_n receive_v they_o from_o both_o abraham_n and_o levi_n which_o possible_o may_v be_v the_o reason_n why_o god_n reserve_v even_o under_o the_o law_n the_o ten_o of_o the_o tithe_n as_o a_o acknowledgement_n or_o high_a rent_n to_o christ_n the_o priest_n after_o the_o order_n of_o melchizedek_n to_o show_v that_o levi_n hold_v they_o of_o he_o numb_a 18._o 26_o 27_o 28._o which_o ten_o therefore_o be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o aaron_n the_o high_a priest_n who_o be_v a_o type_n of_o christ_n possible_o you_o may_v according_a to_o the_o garb_n of_o your_o generation_n sect._n 26_o reject_v these_o thing_n as_o our_o dark_a reason_n but_o see_v your_o own_o assertion_n and_o quaeres_fw-la lead_v we_o hereunto_o we_o hope_v you_o will_v take_v they_o into_o your_o consideration_n at_o least_o so_o far_o as_o to_o show_v we_o the_o darkness_n of_o they_o in_o a_o word_n you_o may_v here_o gather_v our_o answer_n to_o your_o three_o quaeres_fw-la before_o mention_v viz._n to_o the_o first_o that_o we_o grant_v a_o end_n of_o the_o leviticall_a priesthood_n in_o christ_n to_o the_o second_o that_o in_o uphold_v tithe_n we_o uphold_v not_o that_o which_o be_v to_o have_v a_o end_n in_o christ_n tithe_n be_v no_o necessary_a appendant_a to_o that_o priesthood_n but_o christ_n to_o the_o three_o that_o we_o receive_v not_o tithe_n upon_o that_o account_n but_o as_o minister_n of_o christ_n live_v upon_o christ_n portion_n which_o till_o our_o former_a argument_n be_v answer_v we_o suppose_v tithe_n to_o be_v and_o therefore_o be_v not_o by_o receive_v they_o oblige_v to_o leviticall_a service_n but_o gospell-administrations_a these_o thing_n we_o have_v a_o little_a enlarge_v upon_o to_o let_v you_o know_v sect._n 27_o that_o we_o be_v not_o altogether_o so_o destitute_a of_o scripture-warrant_a for_o receive_v yea_o require_v tithe_n even_o in_o kind_n as_o you_o insult_o enough_o insinuate_v we_o to_o be_v whether_o these_o argument_n conclude_v the_o divine_a right_n of_o tithe_n or_o no_o deserve_v the_o consideration_n of_o able_a man_n than_o you_o or_o we_o to_o who_o we_o humble_o submit_v our_o conception_n herein_o however_o suppose_v the_o law_n of_o tithe_n be_v as_o you_o say_v leviticall_a and_o mere_o so_o in_o its_o original_n and_o rise_v yet_o how_o you_o will_v prove_v that_o law_n repeal_v so_o that_o it_o become_v unlawful_a for_o any_o proprietor_n of_o land_n since_o that_o administration_n cease_v to_o set_v apart_o the_o same_o proportion_n of_o the_o income_n and_o profit_n thereof_o for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o a_o gospel_n ministry_n we_o know_v not_o we_o be_v sure_o the_o apostle_n paul_n do_v not_o think_v the_o maintenance_n of_o the_o leviticall_a priesthood_n so_o jewish_a as_o you_o do_v when_o he_o make_v it_o one_o of_o the_o ground_n of_o that_o gospel-ordinance_n for_o minister_n maintenance_n 1_o cor._n 9_o 13_o 14._o do_v you_o not_o know_v that_o they_o which_o minister_n about_o holy_a thing_n live_v of_o the_o thing_n of_o the_o temple_n etc._n etc._n even_o so_o have_v the_o lord_n ordain_v that_o they_o which_o preach_v the_o gospel_n shall_v live_v of_o the_o gospel_n and_o that_o be_v neither_o by_o work_v nor_o beg_v but_o then_o say_v you_o this_o maintenance_n shall_v not_o be_v compulsive_a sect._n 28_o to_o be_v recover_v by_o law_n especial_o from_o the_o poor_a and_o needy_a etc._n etc._n for_o the_o true_a prophet_n and_o minister_n of_o christ_n mention_v in_o scripture_n do_v not_o so_o live_v on_o force_a substance_n but_o eat_v and_o drink_v what_o the_o people_n give_v we_o answer_v 1._o that_o any_o of_o we_o shall_v force_v maintenance_n from_o the_o poor_a and_o needy_a by_o law_n we_o confess_v it_o in_o matter_n of_o fact_n blameworthy_a because_o in_o case_n of_o indigency_n and_o necessity_n it_o be_v every_o man_n duty_n to_o relax_v and_o remit_v a_o just_a debt_n but_o in_o matter_n of_o right_n no_o man_n legal_a title_n fall_v because_o of_o any_o such_o inability_n so_o that_o you_o must_v first_o prove_v that_o minister_n have_v no_o legal_a right_n to_o their_o ten_o and_o then_o to_o force_v it_o from_o any_o be_v sinful_a till_o which_o we_o shall_v conceive_v it_o in_o itself_o as_o lawful_a for_o a_o minister_n to_o sue_v for_o his_o ten_o as_o for_o another_o man_n to_o put_v in_o suit_n a_o just_a bond._n 2._o that_o the_o minister_n
have_v suggest_v to_o he_o viz._n that_o that_o scripture_n do_v not_o express_o forbid_v jesus_n of_o nazareth_n to_o throw_v himself_o down_o from_o the_o pinnacle_n and_o in_o the_o three_o tentation_n according_a to_o your_o tenet_n our_o sect._n 67_o saviour_n have_v be_v hard_o put_v to_o it_o to_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o worship_v the_o devil_n himself_o have_v satan_n be_v discipline_v by_o your_o principle_n and_o require_v of_o he_o a_o express_a text_n that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o worship_v the_o devil_n whereas_o it_o seem_v for_o want_v of_o your_o artifice_n the_o silly_a tempter_n be_v put_v off_o with_o a_o scripture_n that_o require_v we_o to_o worship_n and_o serve_v god_n only_o and_o conclude_v the_o unlawfulnesse_n of_o devill-worship_n by_o this_o argument_n if_o we_o must_v worship_v and_o serve_v god_n only_o ergo_fw-la not_o the_o devil_n but_o we_o must_v worship_v and_o serve_v god_n only_o therefore_o not_o the_o devil_n and_o the_o sadducee_n afterward_o be_v very_o silly_a animal_n that_o sect._n 68_o they_o will_v let_v our_o saviour_n go_v away_o in_o triumph_n for_o put_v 6._o mat._n 22._o 32._o exod._n 3._o 6._o they_o to_o silence_n by_o so_o weak_a a_o proof_n of_o the_o resurrection_n as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o moses_n in_o the_o bush_n i_o be_o the_o god_n of_o abraham_n the_o god_n of_o isaac_n and_o the_o god_n of_o jacob._n why_o have_v they_o not_o require_v in_o so_o fundamental_a a_o article_n of_o faith_n especial_o a_o positive_a and_o express_a scripture_n affirm_v in_o so_o many_o word_n that_o the_o dead_a shall_v rise_v again_o but_o you_o think_v our_o saviour_n example_n will_v not_o bear_v we_o out_o in_o sect._n 69_o our_o interpretation_n and_o deduction_n because_o he_o be_v infallible_a in_o 6._o p._n 6._o what_o he_o speak_v and_o neither_o do_v nor_o can_v err_v in_o what_o he_o say_v which_o you_o suppose_v can_v be_v say_v of_o we_o or_o our_o meaning_n and_o argument_n to_o which_o we_o answer_v we_o do_v not_o compare_v ourselves_o with_o our_o saviour_n in_o point_n of_o infallibility_n although_o your_o generation_n do_v who_o account_v themselves_o equal_o perfect_a with_o he_o but_o this_o we_o say_v that_o our_o saviour_n in_o these_o place_n and_o other_o where_o he_o argue_v from_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o urge_v his_o own_o infallibility_n as_o the_o ground_n upon_o which_o he_o require_v beleif_n neither_o do_v satan_n or_o the_o sadducee_n acquiesce_v in_o the_o acknowledgement_n thereof_o but_o in_o the_o conviction_n wrought_v in_o they_o by_o the_o strength_n of_o his_o argument_n and_o we_o must_v tell_v you_o that_o any_o one_o who_o can_v draw_v a_o argument_n right_o from_o scripture_n be_v no_o less_o infallible_a in_o the_o conclusion_n so_o deduce_v thence_o than_o our_o saviour_n be_v in_o he_o the_o question_n therefore_o will_v be_v whether_o any_o person_n in_o interpret_n and_o argue_v from_o scripture_n be_v infallible_a but_o whether_o such_o interpretation_n and_o deduction_n be_v true_o and_o bona_fw-la fide_fw-la according_a to_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o h._n chost_n in_o scripture_n whether_o they_o be_v draw_v by_o a_o person_n that_o be_v fallible_a or_o infallible_a for_o be_v the_o person_n never_o so_o fallible_a that_o give_v the_o interpretation_n or_o draw_v the_o argument_n yet_o if_o the_o interpretation_n be_v sound_a and_o the_o argument_n right_o conclude_v he_o be_v therein_o infallible_a for_o you_o can_v be_v altogether_o ignorant_a of_o that_o common_a maxim_n that_o nothing_o sequi_fw-la exit_fw-la veris_fw-la possunt_fw-la non_fw-la nisi_fw-la vera_fw-la sequi_fw-la but_o truth_n can_v right_o follow_v from_o truth_n and_o a_o false_a conclusion_n can_v never_o be_v regular_o draw_v from_o true_a premise_n so_o that_o all_o that_o flourish_n which_o you_o afterward_o make_v be_v but_o a_o mere_a rhetorical_a vapour_n and_o signify_v just_a nothing_o to_o a_o understanding_n sect._n 70_o reader_n for_o whereas_o you_o bid_v we_o either_o tell_v the_o people_n 6._o p._n 6._o plain_o that_o we_o be_v infallible_a that_o they_o may_v receive_v our_o deduction_n from_o scripture_n for_o true_a doctrine_n nay_o scripture_n itself_o or_o else_o say_v that_o we_o be_v fallible_a that_o so_o they_o may_v take_v liberty_n of_o prove_v our_o action_n and_o doctrine_n we_o answer_v we_o need_v not_o tell_v the_o people_n we_o be_v infallible_a and_o yet_o they_o be_v no_o less_o bind_v to_o receive_v our_o deduction_n if_o right_o draw_v from_o scripture_n then_o if_o we_o be_v indeed_o so_o because_o although_o we_o be_v not_o infallible_a yet_o so_o far_o as_o we_o regular_o argue_v from_o scripture_n we_o be_v not_o deceive_v nor_o can_v deceive_v they_o the_o authority_n of_o our_o deduction_n from_o scripture_n depend_v not_o on_o our_o fallibility_n or_o infallibility_n but_o upon_o the_o evidence_n they_o carry_v in_o they_o of_o their_o necessary_a 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