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A00796 A treatise of faith wherin is briefely, and planly [sic] shewed, a direct way, by which every man may resolue, and settle his minde, in all doubtes, questions, or controuersies, concerning matters of faith. Fisher, John, 1569-1641. 1605 (1605) STC 10915.5; ESTC S2122 65,176 166

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Scripture as it is the manner of euerie sect maister to confirme his errour with words of Scripture yea the Diuell himselfe doth sometime for his purpose alledge words of Scripture Wherefore there is no reason wherby wee may bee assured that such men haue the Spirit of God but we may finde many reasons to conuince that they haue not this Spirit And to omitte for breuity sake the seeking out of any other euen the singularity or priuatenes of their spirit is sufficient not onely to moue vs to suspect it but also to condemne it and to assure vs that it cannot bee the Spirit of truth as is very well signified by S. Augustine who saith Veritas tua Domine nec mea est nec illius sed omnium quos ad eius communionem publicè vocas terribiliter admonens nos ne eam habere velimus priuatam ne priuemur ea Nam quisquis id quod tu ad fruendum omnibus proponis sibi propriè vendicat suum esse vult quod omnium est à communi propellitur ad sua id est à veritate ad mendacium Thy truth O Lord is neither proper to mee nor him but common to all whom thou dost publiquely call to the common partaking of its warning vs terribly to take heede that wee will not haue it priuate to our selfe least we be depriued of it For whosoeuer doth challenge that to himselfe priuately which thou dost propose publiquely to be enioyed of all and will haue that his owne which is common to all he is driuen from the common to this owne that is to say from the truth to a lie CHAP. X. That the doctrine and teaching of the true Church is the rule of faith THE fourth Conclusion is that this infallible rule which euery one ought to follow in all points of faith is the Doctrine and teaching of the true Church or cōpany of the true faithfull of Christ. This I proue by this reason If our Sauiour Christ hath promised to any cōpanie of men the presence of himselfe and the assistance of his holy spiritt of purpose to instructe teach them all trueth giuing withall peculiar charge commission to them to teache all natiōs and to preache to euery creature giuing also warrant to all that they may safely heare them giuing also commandement whereby he bindeth all to doe in all thinges according to their saying and threatning greatly those who will not heare and beleeue them then certainely the doctrine teaching of these men is in all pointes most true and infallible such as if the other conditions required in the rule of faith be not as they are not wanting may well be proposed to all sortes as an assured ground whereupō they may safely build an infallible Christian faith For looke what our Sauiour Christ hath promised must needes be performed and whatsoeuer he warranteth or commandeth may safely without danger of errour be done nay must of necessity be done especially whē he threatneth those and will not doe it and consequently if he haue promised to sende his holy spirit to teach any company of men all trueth it is not to be doubted but that he sendeth this his holy spirit and by it teacheth them all trueth sith the teaching of this spirit is vnfallible we are not to doubt but that this company is in all pointes infall●bly taught the trueth If also the same our Sauiour gaue warrant and commandement that they should teach vs that we should heare them and doe in all thinges according to their saying we may not likwise doubt but that they shall be able to teache all sortes of men in all pointes the infallible trueth and that all sortes of men may if they will learne of that company what in all pointes is the infallible trueth For otherwise by this generall commaundement of hearing them and doing according to their saying we should be boūde sometime to heare beleeue an vntruth and to doe that which were not vpright and good which without blasphemy to Christ his veritie goodnes can no way be thought But so it is that Christ our Sauiour hath in holy Scripture promised giuen commission warranted commaunded and threatened in manner aforesaide Therefore we can not doubt but that their is a certaine company the which is called the true Church of Christ which both is in all pointes of faith infallibly taught by the holy spirit and is likewise to teach all sortes of men in all pointes of faith what is the infallible trueth and therefore the teaching of this companie may well be assigned and proposed to all men as an vndoubted sufficient rule of faith The promise of our Sauiour Christ we haue first in the Gospell of S. Mathew ego ●obiscum sum omnibus diebus vsque ad cōsum●ationem seculi I am with you al the daies vntill the ende of the world in which wordes is promised the continuall presence of Christ himselfe who is veritas the trueth it selfe with his Church not for a while then or for a while now but all the daies vntill the end of the world Secondly we haue an other promise in the gospell of S. Iohn Ego rogabo patrem alium paraclitum dabit vobis vt maneat vobiscum in aeter●um spiritum veritatis I will aske my father and he will giue you an other paraelite the spirit of trueth that he may remaine with you not only for 600. yeares but for euer And againe in the same S. Iohn to shew vs for what purpose he would haue his holy Spirite remaine among vs for euer he saith Paraclitus quā●ittet pater in nomine m●o ille vos docebit om●●a suggeret vobis omnia quaecunque dixero vobis the paraclite whom my Father will sende in my name shall teach you all things shal put you in mind of al things whatsoeuer I shall say vnto you And againe Cum venerit ille spiritus veritatis docebit v●s omnē veritatē Whē that spirit of truth shall come hee shall teach you all truth The charge and commission is plaine in S. Mathew cuntes docete omnes gentes Going teach all nations And in S. Marke euntes in mundum vniuersum praedicate Euangelium omni creaturae Going into the whole world preach the Gospell to euery creature The warrant we haue in S Luke Qui vos audit me audit Hee that heareth you heareth mee By which wordes appeareth plainely that our Sauiour Christ would haue vs to heare and giue credit to his Church no lesse then to himselfe The commandemēt is expressed in S. Mathew Super Cathedram Moysisederūt Scribae Pharisaei Omnia ergo quaecunque dixeri●t vobis seritate facite The Scribes Pharisies haue sitten vpon the chaire of Moses All things therfore whatsoeuer they shall say vnto you obserue and doe Out of which words we may gather that wee are bound in all pointes
fruites of Christs Passion are inclosed in it and the meanes of saluation and to escape eternall damnation are only found in it The Church therefore is visible at all times For at all times that Prophesie of Isaias must be true wherin our Lord speaketh thus to the Church Aperientur portae tuae iugiter die ac nocte non claudentur vt afferatur ad te fortitudo gentium reges earum adducantur Gens enim regnum quod non seruierit tibi peribit Thy gates shal be continually opened day and night they shall not be shut that the strength of nations and the kings therof may be brought vnto thee for the nation and kingdome which shall not serue thee shall perish Sixtly the only reason and ground by which heretiques hold the Church to be inuisible is because they imagine the Church to consist onely of the elect or onely of the good But this is a false ground as appeareth by the name of Church in Greeke Ecclesia which euen by the etymology of the word doth signifie the company of men called now sure it is that moe are called then elected as our Sauiour saith multi vocati pauci electi Againe this ground is shewed to be false by those parables in which the Church is compared to a floare wherein wheate and chaffe are mixed And to a mariage to which came good and bad And to a net wherin are gathered al sorts of fishes good and bad And to ten Virgins wherof fiue were foolish and excluded from the celestial marriage This ground is also shewed to be false out of S. Paule who commandeth the Corinthians to expell an incestuous person out of the Church Ergo before this expulsion there was such a person in the Church and therefore the Church doth not consist only of those that be good Lastly the ancient Fathers did teach that the Church is visible Origen saith Ecclesia plena est fulgore ab oriente vsque ad occidentem The Church is full of brightness from the East to the West Ecclesia saith S. Cyprian Domini luce perfusa radios suos per orbem spargit The Church being bright with the light of our Lord doth spreade her beames throughout the world Facilius est saith S. Chrysostome solem extingui quàm ecclesiam obscurari It is more easy that the Sunne should be extinguished then that the Church should be obscured that is to say darkened and quite without light S. Augustine also alluding to or rather expounding those words of our Sauiour Non potest ciuitas abscondi supra montem posita Saith Ecclesia supra montem constituta abscondi nō potest The Church being built vpon a mountaine cannot be hid And againe in another place he saith Quid amplius dicturus sum quàm caecos qui tam magnū montem non vident qui contra lucernam in cādelabro positam oculos claudunt What shall I say more but that they are blind who doe not see so great a mountaine who shut their eyes at the candle sette vpon the candle-sticke CHAP. XIII How we should discerne and know which is the true visible Church of Christ. HITHERTO I haue shewed that the rule of faith which all men ought to seeke that by it they may learne true faith is the doctrine of the Church of Christ and that this Church doth continue and is alwaies visible that is to say such as may be found out and knowne Now the greatest question is sith there are diuers companies of them that beleeue in Christ euery one of which challenge to themselues the title of the true Church how euery man may come to know assuredly and in particuler which company is indeed the true visible Church of Christ whose doctrine we must in all points beleeue and follow To this question I answere that euery company which hath the name of Christiās or which challeng to thēselues the name of the Church are not alwaies the true Church For of heretiques we may well say as S. Austen doth non quia ecclesia Christi videntur habere nomen idcirco pertinent ad eius consecrationem They doe not therefore pertaine to the consecration of the Church of Christ because they seeme to cary the name of the Church of Christ. For as the same S. Austen saith in another place heretiques are only whited ouer with the name of Christians When indeed Si haeretici sunt as Tertullian saith Christiani esse non possunt If they be heretiques they cannot be true Christians The reason whereof the same Tertullian insinuateth to be because they follow 〈◊〉 that faith which came from Christ to his Apostles and Disciples and which was deliuered by them from hand to hand to our forefathers and so to vs but they follow that faith which they chose to themselues of which election or choise the name of heretike heresie did arise The way therefore to discerne which is the true Church is first to set downe which be the certaine markes by which all men may easily know the Church then to examine to whom these markes do agree The which that I may the better performe in the chapters following here I thinke good first briefely to note what belongeth to the nature of a good and sufficient marke Note therefore that two things are required in euery sufficiēt marke The first is that it be not common to many but proper and only agreeing to the thing whereof it is a marke As for example it is no good marke whereby to know any particuler mā to say he hath two hands or two eares because this is common to many and therefore no sufficient note or marke wherby one may be distinguished or knowne from all other But a marke whereby we may discerne one speciall man from all other must be some one thing or moe which he hath and others haue not As if he were longer larger or fairer thē the rest or if some others were as long and other some as faire yet none were long faire both but only he The second thing required in a good marke is that it be more apparant and easie to be knowne then the thing For example If I were to describe and make knowne a certaine man who were otherwise vnknowne I must not thinke it sufficient to giue the definition of his essence or to assigne the secret disposition of his hart liuer and other inward partes which are commonly harder to be knowne thē the man himselfe But I must declare some apparant thing in his face hands or some outward part of his body or in his voice apparell behauiour or such like which agreeing onely to that man and being easie to be knowne may be a meanes to make vs know the man we seeke for Wherefore when we will assigne some good markes by which all sortes of men may in some sort discerne which particular cōpany of men
chiefe mark by which we must discerne which is the true Church Contrary wise the Romane Church is alwaies one and vniforme in faith neuer va●ying or holding any dogmaticall point contrarie to that which in former times from the beginning it did hold The lear●ed men thereof though sometimes differing in opinion in matters not defined by the Church yet in matters of faith all cōspire in one And no meruaile because they haue a most conuenient meanes to keepe vnity in professiō of faith sith they do acknowledge one chief pastor apointed ouer them to wit the successour of S. ●eter to whose definitiue censure in matters cōcerning religion they wholy submitte themselues knowing that to Saint Peter and his successours Christ our Sauior promised the keyes of the kingdome of heauen and that hee would vpon him and his successours as vpon a sure rocke build his Church Knowing also that the same our Sauiour did specially pray for S. Peter and euery one his lawfull successour that this faith should not faile at least so farr as to teach the Church a false faith to the intent that he might bee alwaies able to confirme his brethren if at any time they should faile in the doctrine of faith Knowing lastly that to S. Peter and his successours which word I adde not without sufficient authority and reason Christ our Lord gaue most ample power ouer his vniuersall Church saying pasce ou●s m●as feede my sheepe that is to say Rule or gouerne as chief pastor vnder me my sheep that is all those that pertaine to the sheepefolde which is the Church giuing him and his successours charge to feed them with the food of true doctrine of faith and consequently binding these his sheep to receiue obediently this foode of true doctrine of faith at their hands consequently tying himselfe so to assiste him and his successours ●ith the guiding of the holy Ghost that ●●ey should alwaies propose vnto the ●ocke of Christ which is his vniuersall Church the foode of true faith and that ●hey should neuer teach ex Cathedra any ●●ing contrary to true faith sith if hee ●●ould not thus assist but should pemitte ●●em to teach the Church errors in faith ●●ē the Church which he hath bound 〈◊〉 heare this Pastor in all points might ●ontrary to his purpose erre nay should 〈◊〉 him be bound to erre which without ●lasphemy cannot be said All Catholike ●earned men therefore knowing this do ●cknowledge that the definitiue sentēce 〈◊〉 this chiefe Pastor either alone or at ●●ast with a generall councell must needs ●ee alwaies an vnfallible vndoubted 〈◊〉 and that therefore they may safe●y yea they must necessarily submitte all ●●eir iudgements and opinions either in ●●terpreting Scripture or otherwise in ●●tters concerning religion to the cen●●re of this Apostolike seate The which ●hile they doe as they must alwaies do 〈◊〉 they wil be accounted Catholike men 〈◊〉 will not cast out themselues or bee cast out of the company of Catholiques how is it possible that one should dissen● from another in matters of faith or a● least obstinately as heretiques doe erre in any point of faith So that this difference may be assigned betwixt any sect of heretiques and the Romane Church that heretiques are a company not vnited among themselues by any like which is able to containe continue them in vnity of faith whereas the Romane Church is Plebs Sacerdoti adunata grex Pastori suo adhaerens as S. Cyprian saith a Church should bee a people ioyned to their Priest and a flocke cleauing to their Pastor whom whilst it heareth as it is alwaies bound to do it is vnpossible but that it should retaine the vnitie of faith like as on the contrary side according to the saying of S. Cyprian non aliunde haereses obortae sunt aut nata schismat● quàm inde quod Sacerdoti Dei non obtemperatur nec vnus in Ecclesia ad tempus Sacerdos nec vnus iudex vice Christi cogitatur Not frō any other root haue heresies schismes sproung vp but from this that men doe not obey the Priest of God neither doe they consider how that in the Church there is one Priest and one Iudge for the time in steed of Christ. § II. That the Romane Church only is Holy SECONDLY I finde that the Protestants Congregation is not Holy Be●ause not only most of their men be eui●ently more wicked then men which ●oth in olde time and in latter yeares li●ed in the Roman Church as those can tell which haue seene both and is confessed 〈◊〉 Luther himselfe who saith thus Sunt 〈◊〉 homines magis vindict cupidi magis 〈◊〉 magis ab omni misericordia remoti magis ●●●desti indisciplinati multoque deteriores 〈◊〉 fuerunt in Papatu Men are now more ●euengfull more couetous more vnmer●●full more vnmodest and vnruly and ●uch worse then when they were Pa●ists The like testimony you may find ●●uen by another of their Doctors called ●●idelinus which for breuity sake I omit ●ut chiefely their company is not holy because there was neuer yet Saint or holy ●an of it neither is their doctrine such 〈◊〉 may of it selfe leade the most precise obseruers of it to holines but doth by ●●uers points which haue bin taught rather encline men to liberty and loosene of life As for example it enclineth them to breake fasting daies and to cast away secret confession of sins to a Priest both which are knowne to bee soueraigne remedies against sin Also it enclineth them to neglect good workes for they hould them either not to be necessary or no● meritorious of life euerlasting which must needs make men lesse esteeme the practise of them Also it maketh men carelesse in keeping Gods commandements because diuers Protestants if not all hold them vnpossible to be obserued and as it is said impossibilium non est electio No man chooseth or laboureth to atchiue that which he thinketh to be altogether vnpossible It maketh men also not to feare or to bee carefull to auoide sinne because it is held among them that whatsoeuer we do is sinne and that wee cannot chuse but continually sinne and that all sinnes are of themselues mortall which whosoeuer thinketh how can hee be afraid to sin sith stultum est timere quod vit ari nō potest it is foolishnes to feare that which no way can bee auoided Finallie their doctrine of predestination is able to make men carelesse or desperate in all actions and consultations sith some of them hould all things so to proceede of Gods eternall predestination that man in matters of religion at least hath no free-will to doe well or to auoid ill but that God himselfe is author and moueth them effectually and forcibly not onely to good workes but in the same sort vnto the acte of sinne Loe whither this doctrine leadeth a man vvhich giueth grounds which of themselues encline a man to
neglect all endeuour in the study and practise of vertue and to cast away care of auoiding sinne and vice consider whether this can bee a good tree which of it owne nature bringeth forth so bad fruite And see whether this company which teacheth and beleeueth such points of vnholy doctrine can possiblie be a Holy Church In the Romane Church I confesse there be some sinfull folke all in it are not good For the Church is called nigra formosa blacke and faire in it are mixed good and bad as out of diuers parables of our Sauiour I proued before But there are two differences betwixt the sinfull which are in the Romaine Church and those which are among Sectaries The first difference is that among heretiques there are none which wee may call truely holy of which as of the better or more worthy part their congregation may be tearmed holy as the Romane Church may It may bee perhaps that one may finde diuers of them who abstaine from grosse outward sinnes as stealing swearing c. And that some of them doe many workes morally good as to giue almes to the needie and that they liue at least in outward shew in vpright and moderate sort But alas these be not sufficient or certaine signes of sanctitie all this perhaps farre more we may reade of heathen Philosophers these outward actions may proceed of naturall sometime of sinnefull motiues and consequētly they may be very farre from true holines which must be groūded in true charitie for as S. Paule saith to distribute all that one hath to feed the poore or to giue ones bodie to burne doth nothing auaile without charity which charity must proceede de corde puro conscientia bona fide non ficta out of a pure harte a good conscience and an vnfained faith The which things being most inward and consequētly hidden and secret cannot sufficiently be shewed to others by those outward actions which may come from other causes as soone as from these Nay they can not be knowen certainely of the party himselfe For n●s●it homo vtrum odio vel ●more dignus sit a man knoweth not whether he be worthy of hate or loue and quis potest dicere mundum est cor meum who can say my hart is cleane but these things are reserued to him onely qui scrutatur cord● who searcheth the harts to witte almightie God and it cannot be perfitely knowen of men who haue them truely and consequently who be truely saints vnles it please him to reueale it by miracle or some other certaine way vnto vs. But hitherto it was neuer heard that almightie God did by miracle or any such certaine way giue testimony that either Luther or Caluin or any of their fellowes or followers had in them this true holines or that they were Saints but rather while as they presumptuously attempted to worke miracles it hath pleased God by giuing either none or euill successe to testifie that they were not Saints Whereas on the contrary syde it hath pleased God to giue testimony by miracles of the faith and holines of life of diuers which professed the Romaine faith of which sort I might bring in many examples but I will at this time onely name S. Bernard S. Dominike S. Frauncis who on the one side were certainely knowen to haue bin professours of that religion which was then is now professed at Rome as may appeare both by that which is left written of their liues also by this that they were chiefe fathers and founders of certaine Religious orders of Monkes and Friers which yet continue there on the other side they are certainly knowen to be holy men partly by their sober chast vertuous life partly by the guift of miracles in so much that euen Luther himselfe and other of our aduersaries confesse them to haue beene Saints The which being confessed of these must needes inferre the like confession of the sanctitie of many other who were also professors of the same Romane faith whose names we may finde registred in the Calender euen in bookes sett out by Protestants and whose vertuous life holy death miraculous deedes we may find in good authours See Saint Athanas. in vita S. Antonij apud Surium S. Bernard in vita S. Malachiae S. Antoninus 3. parte hist. titulo 23. 24. Surius throughout his large volumes of the liues of Saints others Now this being cōfessed that diuers whom we know to haue bene members of the Romane Church are saincts we may well inferre that at least some part of this Church is holy and that therfore of this part per synecdochen the whole may be tearmed holy especially considering that the faith of this part which was a principall roote out of which their holines did spring is all one in substance with the faith which we all professe and therefore we may say that our faith and profession enclineth and leadeth to the same holines of life that theirs did And therefore though many through their owne fault faile in the practise of vertue and holines yet our profession being all one with the professiō of these holy men is to be tearmed holy as theirs was Of which holy profession in some sort all our whole companie may be called holy as of the art of painting or any other art all that professe them are commōly tearmed by a name proper to their professiō though it happen that diuers of them be not very skilfull nor doe not much exercise his art And from hence riseth the second difference betwixt Protestantes and vs to wit that the very doctrine it selfe which Protestantes teach doth as I shewed before induce men to libertie and consequently to lewde life whereas the Romane faith which wee professe both expressely forbiddeth all vice and prescribeth lawes contrary to liberty and loosenes of life containeth most soueraigne meanes to incite and moue a man to all perfite vertue and holines of life As for example It teacheth that notwithstanding the presence or predestination of Almighty God mā hath free-will wherwith being ayded by Gods grace which grace through the merit of Christs Passion is ready for all that with humble deuout and perseuerant prayer will aske by frequenting in due sort the holy Sacraments will seeke for it he may auoid sinne and embrace vertue the which taketh away despaire of shunning euill and doing well which easily followeth of the contrary opinion It teacheth also that Gods commādements be not vnpossible to be obserued nay nor hard through helpe of grace which is alwaies at hand to be obserued of one which hath but a good will according as S. Iohn saith mandata eius grauia non sunt his commādemēts be not heauy yea that they may by the same grace be easily obserued according to that of our Sauiour Iugum meum suaue onus meum leue my yoke is sweet my