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A41786 The quæries examined, or, Fifty anti-queries seriously propounded to the people called Presbyterians Occasioned by the publication of Fifty queries, gathered out of the works of Mr. Rich. Baxter. By J. B. Wherein the principal allegations usually brought to support infant-baptism are discovered to be insufficient. By T. G. Grantham, Thomas, 1634-1692. 1676 (1676) Wing G1543A; ESTC R223637 27,933 56

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their_o portion_n under_o the_o law_n make_v with_o adam_n and_o how_o be_v infant_n member_n of_o the_o society_n of_o the_o seed_n of_o adam_n more_o than_o of_o the_o society_n of_o the_o baptist_n show_v the_o difference_n if_o you_o can_v presbyterian_a query_n 4._o whether_o though_o our_o innocency_n be_v lose_v parent_n be_v not_o parent_n still_o and_o have_v not_o as_o much_o interest_n in_o child_n and_o whether_o god_n have_v reverse_v this_o natural_a order_n and_o if_o god_n change_v not_o his_o order_n therein_o whether_o parent_n be_v not_o as_o capable_a of_o consent_v to_o grace_n for_o their_o child_n as_o they_o be_v of_o be_v innocent_a for_o they_o baptist_n antiquery_n 4._o whether_o there_o be_v any_o that_o question_n whether_o parent_n be_v parent_n still_o or_o what_o need_n of_o such_o inquiry_n or_o what_o do_v you_o mean_v by_o god_n natural_a order_n if_o you_o mean_v natural_a religion_n then_o show_v we_o what_o infant_n be_v bind_v ro_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n by_o nature_n or_o what_o this_o natural_a order_n tie_v parent_n to_o do_v to_o their_o infant_n upon_o the_o account_n of_o practical_o in_o religion_n which_o we_o omit_v and_o whether_o parent_n can_v be_v innocent_a for_o their_o infant_n if_o their_o infant_n be_v not_o innocent_a as_o well_o as_o they_o and_o if_o not_o how_o shall_v their_o consent_n to_o grace_n be_v the_o child_n consent_n and_o whether_o it_o will_v not_o as_o well_o hold_v retro_fw-la that_o the_o parent_n consent_v to_o wickedness_n be_v the_o child_n consent_n and_o whether_o this_o do_v not_o give_v the_o parent_n the_o power_n to_o save_v or_o damn_v their_o infant_n and_o can_v such_o council_n stand_v with_o the_o wisdom_n justice_n or_o mercy_n of_o god_n presbyterian_a query_n 5._o whether_o infant_n be_v not_o include_v in_o the_o first_o edition_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n make_v with_o adam_n gen._n 3._o 15._o whether_o unless_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o infant_n be_v none_o of_o the_o woman_n s●ed_z we_o must_v not_o take_v that_o fundamental_a promise_n to_o extend_v to_o infant_n and_o be_v she_o not_o thereby_o oblige_v to_o l●st_v herself_o and_o all_o her_o infant-progeny_n in_o the_o redeemer_n army_n against_o the_o proclaim_a enemy_n and_o to_o teach_v her_o posterity_n to_o do_v the_o like_a and_o do_v they_o not_o continue_v visible_a member_n of_o christ_n army_n and_o kingdom_n till_o such_o time_n as_o they_o violate_v that_o fundamental_a obligation_n and_o as_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o serpent_n fight_v against_o christ_n and_o his_o kingdom_n for_o satan_n and_o his_o kingdom_n baptist_n antiquery_n 5._o whether_o the_o baptist_n do_v not_o as_o clear_o assert_v infant_n right_o to_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n in_o the_o first_o edition_n of_o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o adam_n as_o any_o whatsoever_o and_o if_o by_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o woman_n you_o understand_v all_o that_o be_v save_v who_o then_o question_n infant_n belong_v to_o that_o seed_n but_o where_o be_v the_o woman_n bind_v to_o list_v her_o infant_n in_o the_o redeemer_n army_n or_o where_o shall_v we_o find_v they_o visible_a member_n of_o christ_n army_n in_o the_o first_o edition_n of_o the_o covenant_n be_v not_o these_o mere_a word_n without_o authority_n of_o scripture_n or_o where_o do_v infant_n ever_o fight_v for_o or_o against_o the_o serpent_n and_o if_o not_o why_o do_v you_o make_v they_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o serpent_n and_o fighter_n against_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n and_o if_o you_o say_v you_o speak_v not_o these_o thing_n of_o infant_n quatalis_fw-la then_o whether_o you_o have_v not_o transfer_v the_o question_n and_o so_o it_o be_v impertinent_a presbyterian_a query_n 6._o whether_o in_o that_o first_o proclamation_n of_o grace_n to_o fall_v man_n or_o in_o the_o first_o promise_n of_o redemption_n to_o sinner_n gen._n 3._o 15._o