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A36729 Reflections on the Council of Trent in three discourses / by H.C. de Luzancy. De Luzancy, H. C. (Hippolyte du Chastelet), d. 1713. 1679 (1679) Wing D2419; ESTC R27310 76,793 222

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from God Justitiam vero quae ex fide Christi est non esse nisi ex Deo A man may be still sinfull and Gods enemy with such a righteousness Ideo cum in illa quae ex lege est justitia sine querela conversaretur Apostolus fuisse se impium non negat Fourthly they taught That sorrow conceiv'd only out of fear of punishment is a sorrow of Infidels and that if God were satisfied with that there is no man in the World that could chuse but be innocent since no man that has but the least Idea of the life to come but is moved with its apprehension Non enim peccare metuit sed ardere This is a principle the Fathers have with unanimous consent maintained This the Popes in former Ages taught Nay those that sit now in the Apostolical See would do so too if with the modesty and humility of their Predecessors they had not also rejected their doctrine XVI The Council seems in its last Session to gather all its strength against those who reject Purgatory and deprive Saints Images and Reliques of their due honor Yet it appears the Fathers of Trent agreed that all those things Purgatory excepted are not founded upon Scripture but only upon the General Councils and Writings of the Fathers This is collected out of the very words of the Decree the Council there speaking of Ecclesiastical antiquity but not a word of the Scripture A Person of extraordinary merit has undertaken to lay open the mysteries of Purgatory and as he leaves nothing unsaid on that subject so none can take it ill if I refer my Reader to him For those other things Invocation of Saints Images and Reliques 't is easy in a few words to shew how infirm their ground is in the ancient Doctrine of the Church All learned men in the Church of Rome admit of the following Propositions First That nothing in the Scripture authorizes these practices or at least nothing sure fixt cleer and undoubted Secondly That all places taken out of Scripture by modern Writers to prove these things have never bin made use of by the Ancients for that purpose and so are of no autority the ancients being most holy and assured Interpreters of the Scriptures Thirdly That till the seventh pretended General Council that is for eight hundred years there was not any decision made of them Fourthly That to this pretended General Council we oppose others acknowledged General by the Collector of the Councils but as all learned men confess endued with these Qualities 1. More exact in the Discussion of matters as it appears by their Acts. 2. Called by an holy Emperor and peculiar Benefactor to the Church of Rome 3. Free from all Suspicions of oppression which the seventh is guilty of 4. That the consent of the Fathers upon that Doctrine is neither clear nor unanimous and that if in any of later date there be some places tending that way there are in the same and many others a thousand contrary places to invalidate them 5. That if we speak according to the Principles of the Church of Rome it self there can no more then a simple probability be pleaded in this case and that none of the greatest neither but to both parties favorable But there is not a Divine in the World who dares affirm that an Article of Faith can be built upon a simple probability nor declare them impious and blasphemous who have a contrary probability nor excommunicate them and separate them from the Church that is inflict upon them the most dreadful punishment How could the Fathers of Trent therefore do this why did they not fear that threatning of the wise Man Sicut avis in incertum volans quolibet vadens sic maledictum frustrà prolatum venit super eum qui misit illud Nor that of Origen when a man is unjustly put out of the Church he ceaseth not to be within when he that thinks himself within may be really out XVII Saints pray in general for all Christians For tho they triumph in Heaven yet they are her members who strives and combats upon Earth They are indeed united to their Head which is Christ but yet they still preserve the remembrance of the Body which is the Church They are a part of that Spouse who as S. Bernard saies sighs after the Bridegroome and begs a kiss from his mouth wisheth for the end of the World that Christ would hasten his Judgment and manifest that day wherein he will begin to be all in all 'T is in that very sense the Apostle saies The whole Creation groans and travails in pain till now even we our selves groan within our selves waiting for the Adoption to wit the Redemption of our Body 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 So S. Cyprian assures us That the Saints being secure of their immortality are careful of our Salvation S. Jerome argues against Vigilantius in this manner If the Apostles and Martyrs being yet in their Bodies can pray for others much more when they have conquered are crowned and triumph And S. Austin yet more perfectly The Saints in Heaven saies he offering their prayers for the necessity of those that pray God grants to every one all those comforts he judges most suitable to them in the miseries of the present life But there is a vast difference between the Invocation whereby we direct our Prayers to the Saints and the intercession of the Saints for us And none of these things are to be found in the Tradition 1. That the Saints pray for any particular person 2. That they obtain any favors for us by their own merits 3. That it is lawful to honor them with a religious worship XVIII And to discover with how little sincerity the Council of Trent speaks of this custom that it has bin preserved à primaevis Christianae Religionis temporibus it is enough to say that their most learned Men confess it was the sentiment of the Primitive Fathers that the Souls of the Saints should not enjoy the sight of God till the day of Judgement and consequently could neither speak in favor of us no offer to him our praiers S. ●ene Justin S. Clement Tertullian Origen Lactantius S. Ambrose S. Chrysostom S. Augustin Eutimius Theodoret Oecumenius Aretas are said to have bin of that opinion Nay S. Bernard preach't it which shews that this Doctrine continued till the twelfth Age of the Church XIX Indeed we cannot too much honor those holy men who preserve with an undaunted resolution the precious Tresures committed to their charge We must admire them in the powerful effects of Christs Grace who in a corruptible flesh and a sinfull World has preserved them pure and undefiled The constancy of Martyrs the austerity of Penitents the inviolated purity of Virgins who despised all other ambition besides that of being near the Lamb deserve all our Praises Nay a true Christian makes his actions
by heat or violence an extraordinary and unusual prudence appears in all their Canons they busy not themselves in calling the Pope Antichrist and Rome Babylon but render them the same respect they had ever done They judg themselves without judging others and are content to pray for other Societies without pronouncing either their Salvation or condemnation XX. As they do separate themselves only from the errours of the Church of Rome so they do pretiously preserve what doth not bear that name otherwise 't would not have bin the work of a pious zeal but of a wicked madness None can deny that there are many great and holy rites in the Church of Rome They therefore by a judicious distinction have thrown out those practises which were evil and retain'd the good XXI Having therefore two businesses in hand to wit the reformation of Doctrine and ordering of manners they have made use of the shortest and easiest means They compar'd all to the Scriptures and customes of the first Ages There is no point of their Faith which may not be proved by Scripture nothing in their Discipline which is not conformed to the ceremonies of the first 500 years XXII The Church of England therefore hath the comfort of having her Doctrine founded on the Scriptures so believed by the holy Saints as she beleiv'd it her Canons conformable to the antient Canons her Liturgy like the first Liturgies When she goes about to interpret the Scriptures she exacts not of her Children a blind obedience as doth the Church of Rome She thinks not to make any volume Canonical which was never really so but she follows the tracts of the Saints and of the Councils and hath learnt from the primitive Church which books in the Holy Bible are the grounds of our Faith and which only the object of our Piety XXIII We may say the same thing of all those points which raise the difference betwixt us and the Church of Rome The most considerable one is that of the Eucharist She treats that incomprehensible mystery with the respect due to it She neither presumes nor pretends to comprehend more of it then Christ hath bin pleased to reveal to them and the antient Church understood It is manifest first that Christ instituted the Sacrament of his body and blood Secondly that he is really present in it Thirdly that he abundantly communicates his grace and his holy Spirit to those who before they receive it seriously try themselves as the Apostle speaks and who not only forsake Sin but the very appetite of sinning and labour to order their life by his example But the manner of his being present is uncertain Christ saies nothing of it it appears no● that the primitive Church hath known how That of England receives with thanksgiving what he hath bin pleased to reveal to her and adores with a submissive silence what he hath not bin pleased to let her know We understand nothing of the Lord's Supper but by the Scriptures and the practice of the primitive times and when we limit our selves to that without going any further the manner of expounding it is not difficult The Infinite love of God towards us in that Sacrament destroies not the order which his wisdom hath put in things We leave to Faith all the latitude of it without contradicting the principles of reason But when men pretend to make Evangelists speak as Scholastics or Scholastics as Evangelists and look for Transubstantiation concomitancy and existence of the accidents without their subject c. all seems obscurity and darkness We sacrifice not our reason to faith but we throw aside both of them in saying that God explains himself after a manner con●rary to those principles which he hath established The Church of England is therefore in 〈◊〉 right of supposing as receiv'd what she beleives and the Church of Rome is ob●●ged to prove what she advances The former supposes the miracle which Christ ●ath wrought adding nothing new or ●npossible the other proposeth a thousand things to our beleif of which Christ ●ath said nothing and which are in ●hemselves greater miracles then that about which the two parties differ besides that they draw idolatrous practices XXIV The Church of Eng. doth not only think her self bound to beleive what Christ saies of the sacrament but she administers it ●s he hath given it us She orders the Sacrament under both kinds according ●o the command of Christ and to the pra●tice of the Catholic Church and the whole World know the unchristian grounds upon which an Italian Bishop in the Council of Trent thought it was not to be granted for fear of making an argument against the pretended Infallibility of the Church of Rome XXV It is unreasonable that she do's not permit service to be read in the vulgar tongue and the Bible to be ●ranslated She knows nothing was ever grounded upon a less foundation then that and without looking on the orders of St. Paul which are so exact thereupon is there any thing in the World so contrary to reason as to pray to God in an unknown Tongue which exposeth the Praiers to the scorn and irreverence of those that offer them The Eastern Church did alwaies pray in Greek or in languages used by her divers Nations Whilst the Latin was the language of the West it was fitting that the service should be read in it but by the distraction of the Empire the incursions of Barbarians and the various revolutions we find in history that language having lost its life and given place to the various Idiomes of all Nations it was fitting men should pray in such languages as may be understood but it being more for the interest of the Pope to keep people ignorant he hath opposed so necessary a practice St. Jerome translated the Bible into Dalmatian the language of his own Country there are also to be ●ound manuscripts of the Bible in most languages of the World The more universal and dangerous heresies were the more the holy Saints exhorted the People to look in the Scriptures for those remedies which God hath granted against them XXVI The Church of England hath therefore turn'd the Liturgy into her Mother tongue The Priests and the Congregation there present send the same Praiers to Heaven and to take away all marks of Enthusiasm or novelty she hath composed the admirable Book of common Praier It is nothing but a collection of the most pathetical and instructive places of Scripture That which she hath not from thence are the very words of the Fathers or antient collects which by tradition were receiv'd from the primitive Church All is sound all is holy we address our selves to God in God's own language and we speak to him as he hath spoke to us 'T is a happy obligation for a Christian to pray after such a manner wherein a vain imagination bears no part his mind is enlivened his heart softned by that he can preach to himself and
to the Church as to the State The Country is ●carce large enough for their ramblings ●nd the City for their visits The factum ●f my Lord Arch-Bishop of Sens one ●f the greatest Prelates of the Church of Rome is a proof of what they can do We spare the Reader the recital of their ●candalous manners But if these Monks ●ave so little care of their reputation as 〈◊〉 say that this is the practice but of one ●articular House we can prove to them ●y a thousand like examples free from all ●xception that it is not in the City of Provins only but in all other they live ●ccordingly It remains that we speak of the Jesu●●s whom all have spoken against ever ●nce the World knew them If the acts ●f the Clergy of France the Writings ●f Sorbon the Decrees of the Parliament ●f Paris may be credited Christianity ●ath never had greater enemies Never ●id people that profess poverty and obe●ience so earnestly affect glory and ●iches The better sort of the Roman Communion in England it self cannot en●ure them And all the World knows a person of eminent Quality most zealous for the Church of Rome who ardently desires its re-establishment but on condition that the Jesuits be for ever excluded the Kingdom XXXV Whence therefore comes it that th● Church of Rome which cannot be ignorant of so palpable disorders preserves the Friers with so much care 'T is a mistery which must be laid open There are two sorts of persons interess'd in their conservation the Pope● and men that are worldly given Th●● latter who would be Christians without submitting to the duties of the Gospel● are very glad to find so easie and indulgent guides who give them pillows to lea●● on Ezech. 13. 18. as speaks the Prophet● that is to sin with less disturbance Now to glory in a great number of followers● 't is enough to entice and allure those● whom a half piety and shadow'd devotion keeps still in their sins The Pope o● the other side supports them not only by acknowledgment as people to whom h● ows a great part of his grandeur but wit● design of making use himself of them upon occasion Before the Court of Rome had invented Privileges and Exemtions the Monks that lived in submission to their Bishops and in an happy ignorance of the disputes of the Schools were but of small use to it they sought after sanctity more then science But when the Pope began to encroach upon the Jurisdiction of Bishops he began by substracting from their autority Monasteries which being weary of the vigilance of their Prelates were wrapt with joy of having none that should examine their actions That they might not seem unworthy of Popes new favor they began to make head against their Bishops to study Decretals aspire to Scholarship and change their ignorance into a demi-science which hath brought so many evils upon the Church And indeed since they have bin extremely faithful to the Pope Of nine Divines which he sent to the Council of Trent seven were Monks The Holy Father requires not them to defend his rights by good arguments by reading the Fathers or studying learned Languages but only to clamor and cry out They are not engaged to prove that those who deny the supremacy and infallibility of the Pope are Heretics but to spread abroad that they are Heretics In the affairs of the five Propositions and the magnificent Formulary of Alexander the Seventh the Jesuits ne're put themselves to the trouble of shewing that the five Propositions were in Jansenius but only clamor'd that they were there They thought not themselves obliged to demonstrate the Pope had power to exact the signature of the Formulary but only bark'd all about that those that subscribed not to it were worse then Arians XXXVI There are in France fifty thousand Monks at least the greater part are Preachers and Confessors that is people that bear relation to all places of the Kingdom Doth any write against Religion or manners maintain the most scandalous Principles in the World and the most opposite to those of the Gospel there is not one that appears to defend either But if any speak against the usurpation of the Pope then the Theaters streets public places private houses and palaces of the Grandees are full of Monks that cry with open mouth that Heresy hath infected the whole World Had Charles the Fifth who aspired to the universal Monarchy used this means he had infallibly succeeded The best policy in the World is to have in all Kingdoms thirty thousand Agents who have influence on an infinite number of Persons and are maintain'd at so small a rate by him that emploies them XXXVII The Church of England is therefore in the right to reject such Friers as they are now King Henry the Eighth knew that with them it was impossible a King could be master of his own Estate and a Bishop rule his Church And these two things being equally necessary to the repose and welfare of a Nation this action of his is not to be condemn'd XXXVIII In banishing Friers the Holy Church of England hath banished at the same time all those novelties wherewith they abused the credulity of People indulgencies reliques fraternities and all that which is commonly taken for a true piety She hath substituted in their place praier reading of the Gospel preaching and generally all that may conduce to the converting the heart Her design in it is not to draw after her a multitude of Women loaden with sins who alwaies learn and are never instructed but to establish in her Sons such things as are solid and durable In primitive times all these waies were unknown true piety decreasing the Friers thought it sufficient to substitute in its stead an appearance of it The holy Church of England beleived she ought to deal quite otherwise for the welfare of Christians and that she was obliged to endeavour to render them like those of the golden age as much as that of Iron wherein we live would permit XXXIX Of all practices of antiquity there is none so venerable as the manner of sanctifying the Lords day The holy Church of England celebrates it with an admirable piety Saint Augustine believed that it was less criminal to till the ground then to dance on this day Both the one and the other is equally forbidden in England Plaies Balls pleasures journies are things not so much as to be mentioned XL. The Church of England limits not its self at the sanctifying of the Lords day She hath divers other daies to excite the piety of her Sons and those are the festivals instituted in honour of the most glorious mother of God and the Saints As this custome is very antient in the Church and a man cannot open the writings of the Fathers without finding marks of it she thought it fit to preserve religiously such observances By this the Church makes to appear the union of her body in what state
of Trent gave it two mortal wounds 1. To declare Bishops in many cases the Popes Delegates 2. To leave the question of their residence and jurisdiction undecided 1. The first of these two things brings Episcopacy unto a strange abatement renders the Pope master of all Bishops Jurisdictions breaks all ancient Canons runs down the interests of all Princes encroaches upon the Rights and Liberties of Churches gives the Bishops a quality unworthy the successors of the Apostles and forces them to receive that as a borrowed and begg'd privilege which belongs naturally to them The second causes Episcopacy to be look'd upon as a meer humane emploiment or Civil Magistracy Such a Bishop could never have the confidence to say with the Apostle 2 Cor. 13. 3. Do you seek a proof of Christs speaking in me Nay he would no more value his sacred character then one of the Kings officers do his and regard the duties of his Divine calling rather as rules instituted for decency then as unchangeable obligations so strictly requir'd from him that without them he has no hope of salvation XXVI Jurisdiction is no less essential to Episcopacy then the power of ordaining Ministers a proposition we could easily demonstrate to be unanswerable would it not render this Discourse too big and had it not bin already done by a learned hand against the infamous Doctrine of ●oth English and French Jesuits For Jesuits are every where the same Ordination and Jurisdiction are so twisted together that they cannot be divided without their ●●utual destruction Bishops receive both from the same hand and are no less instituted by Christ in the Church to govern 〈◊〉 then to continue the succession of the Governors XXVII Nay may it not be affirm'd that Jurisdiction is both as essential to Episcopacy 〈◊〉 necessary to the Church as Ordination ●or the Church being as St. Paul saies a 〈◊〉 i. e. a society consisting of Rulers and others submitted to them without Jurisdiction it can no more be such a society then without Ordination those rulers can be continued Therefore as no● Bishop ordains in the Catholic Church a● the Popes or any other Patriarchs delegate but by the fulness of power he receives from Christ so no Bishop exercise● any act of Jurisdiction by any delegation but by that power he is invested with a● Bishop successor of the Apostles and Vicar of Christ A Bishop that acts or believes otherwise betraies that dignity intrusted to hi● by Christ which he ought to maintain 〈◊〉 the last drop of his blood XXVIII Nor pretend we thereby to say th● such a Jurisdiction may be exercis'd in ●●very place and over all persons the patition of Dioceses shews the extraord●●nary wisdom of Councils and Prince● Nor may any one transgress the limi● they have put among Bishops without d●●claring himself an enemy to all disciplin● Now all the following Propositions a● certainly true at least to all admirers 〈◊〉 former times whom I take to be in E●England in a greater number then elsewhere 1. That no man or no part of a Diocess can be substracted from a Bishops Jurisdiction but by the autority of a Prince or Council 2. That no man can be substracted from the Jurisdiction of his Bishop without being put at the same time under another 3. That however a Bishop deals with any man either substracted from his Jurisdiction or added to it 't is alwaies of himself and by the power he receiv'd from Christ 4. That the exemtions of Friars and Monks are a Schism rais'd by the Popes 5. That the name of the Popes Delegates in its most favorable sense given to the Bishops in things which belong to them is plenojure and by all Laws a most shameful injury to the Episcopal order 6. That nemo est qui non perhorrescat to use the words of a Learned Doctor of Sorbon at the speech of the Jesuit Lainez in the Council of Trent That all the power of Jurisdiction hath bin by Christ conferr'd on the Bishop of Rome so that the Jurisdiction of Bishops is not fundamental but deriv'd XXIX Now concerning the divine right of Episcopacy the Fathers of Trent committed two great faults the one to bring it into question and the other to leave it undecided As for the first it had bin receiv'd in the Church for fourteen ages taught by the Fathers embraced by their Disciples and only impugn'd by the Italian Canonists For the second such an indecision is a ground for any man in the Church of Rome to deny doubt of and contradict the institution of Bishops these three things being the nature of all undecided points So a man may maintain there is no government at all in the Church and consequently no Church since it does not appear that Christ hath instituted any other then Episcopacy and certainly to find any other the Scripture must be strain'd in many places the constant universal and never oppos'd practice of fourteen hundred years be impudently contradicted XXX But what is most pleasant in this Indecision is that the Pope has verifi'd the word of the Prophet Psal 35. 8. Let the net that he hath hid catch himself for all these following consequences flow from it 1. That the Holy Father is no Pope by divine right Jure divino for the Popedom being nothing else but an extension of Episcopacy he is no Pope but because he is Bishop No Divine durst yet advance any other opinion But the Episcopacy of the Holy Father is not different from that of other Bishops being in all respects of the same kind Episcopatus unus est And the Italians who are so abundant in novelties when they undertake to raise up the credit of their Master have bin dumb in this matter Therefore if the Popes Episcopacy is not Jure divino his Papacy is not so neither since one is engrafted upon the other and if the Holy Father is not Pope Jure divino what ground can be laid for the ambition and usurpation of the Apostolical See What shall we do with the fine and rare Doctrine of Infallibility 2. The Council has impos'd the belief of its new Decree upon all Christians under pain of eternal damnation but if they are only Ministers from the Church and not from Christ with what eies shall we consider so stupendious a boldness Who hath impowr'd a company of men to make Decrees of divine Faith And how without being authoriz'd by God did they exact an obedience only due to Ministers sent from Heaven 3. 'T is a crime in a Roman Catholic to believe the Council of Trent did not lawfully what it did otherwise such a meeting is a dream and a chimera But who is that Roman Catholic of any sense who can be perswaded of it seeing 't is allow'd in the Church of Rome to deny any of those Bishops had the least autority from God to do what they did XXXI And indeed who will not wonder the Fathers of