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A50441 A brief answer unto the Cambridge moddel which is to go to the two universities to be read by all the doctors and students, vice-chancellor, and fellows, as they will answer it to God : and likewise this is to go to all those they call gentlemen to the countreys to whom this moddel is directed, from the doctors, for money to maintaine the students : and is to go amongst all the priests that are, and have been heretofore made ministers by the same doctors of colledges, now planted themselves in the countreys, and this is to go amongst all the country-men, that they may see the fruits of the learning from the doctors, which fruits is persecution ... / by E.M. E. M.; Worthington, John, 1618-1671. 1658 (1658) Wing M15; ESTC R22561 12,527 18

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like potters vessells And light will break forth though you be in never such great houses of darknesse though you swell like the Sea and rage like the waves and yell like the Lyons who want their prey and roar like the Bear bereaved of her whelps and raven like Wolves and carry the Lambs and Sheep into houses of Correction for your prey because you cannot get meat of them whom the Lord is their Shepherd who follows Christ and hears his voyce who hath put his sheep forth from you to whom he hath given eternall life Though you roar in your Pulpits and make the ignorant people like a raging sea all of a fire against the Lambs and little ones the Lord will still the waves and lay the tempests and hath put the hook in the jaws of the great Leviathan in the Sea Come ye Babes and little ones and rejoyce over them in the Lord who is causing light to break forth out of darkness The two places Oxford and Cambridge which makes Ministers the things which is seen concerning them is they are like two Woods full of black trees which are blackned with smoke and a few leaves hangs dropping on the Tops of them like unto trees at the fall of the leaf and they stand as it were in a quagmire which is made up with the fat of the Nation and the exacting of poor people and wringing of them like a great heap of myery soft earth and when the wind blows the quagmire puffs at the bottom of it and there is but little mosse growes on the trees because of the smoke and these trees bears no fruit but a few dropping leaves as it were in the end of Summer so they stand as the shaking off with a great winde whose leaf fades and so as they are carried out of that quagmire and wood and banke undressed they are planted in the Countries like starved trees in the Forest beaten with windes and weathers dried with bark on and some Mosse on them and scarce leaves Now these be the fuel for the fire which cumbers the ground fruitlesse trees and the Nations and the earth hath layen like a Wildernesse and these trees have not born fruit and their leaves fades and falls And the fruitfull trees of the field begins to clap their hands who beares the fruit whose leaf never fades nor falls that is by the River and the smoak of these two woods before mentioned hath almost smoaked off the barks of them for they have scarcely the outside of them nor leaves but they are droping down continually and they must all drop off and appear bare for they have not any to cover them and all your works and the intent of your Moddel is to get money that you might make Ministers are you like the Apostles in this have you thrust out Christ and denyed the faith will you let Christ have no Room but in your mouths to talk of him had ever Christ any place but in the manger amongst the Professors them that lived in lip service their hearts far off from God had not the great professors Hebrew Greek and Latin in the dayes of old the great Talkers of Christ and he had no place amongst them but in the manger in the stable are not you making Ministers and begging money of the Gentry and frighting their evil consciences if they will not give it you and the highest when you have made them is but Hebrew Greek and Latin which is but natural and so is but a natural man and the natural man receives not the things of God though he hath Hebrew Greek and Latin though he can talk of all Scripture in those languages and will put Christ in the stable and in the manger and let him have no Room in the Synagogues as the Jewes would not but was all full of wrath and rose up against him and put him out of the Synagogue and do not you your Ministers put him out of your Synagogues and put him in prison is not this the fruits of your Ministers and your makers of them sure people will be wise and not spend their money for that which is not bread where was there such degrees amongst the Apostles as is amongst you and the Papists Batchelors and Masters of Arts and so forth and where did the Apostle chuse boyes out of Schools and send them to a place to learn Hebrew Greek and Latine 7 or 8 years and that such should be made Ministers is not this by men and of men doth not all this come out of your own names let the wise in heart judge so if one come in his own name the world receives him but who comes in the name of the Lord the world will not receive him And whereas you say some have been but four yeares at the University they are through poverty forced to go away to enter into the Ministry while they are raw which should have stayed four years more having been provided for Are you not ashamed doth money make your Ministers was it not money that made all the false Prophets and the selfish ends how are you like Ravens and the Lilies and the grasse are you not all comprehended here amongst the Heathen and your rawness both Ministers and Makers hath sufficiently appeared and declared it selfe to the whole Nation and when you have made them at 8 yeares standing and 7 and 4 and has gotten all his learning Hebrew Greek and Latine and other Languages which the Gentry of the Country must maintain them and poor people besides when he hath gotten all his carnal weapons and armed himself with them and got up into his steeple-house one of them the poor dispised people a woman a lad or a girle come and but look this Priest in the face as he is in his pulpit with all his Goliahs weapons carnal languages he falls before them him or her the said Quaker and cryes take them away they disturb me to the house of correction with them to the Prison and thus the Student and Minister shames both Count●y and Gentry and they are ashamed of him have wee given our money cry they and hath he had fifteen pounds and 20l and 30l a year for 7. or 8. yeares together and now there comes a poor simple Quaker and bids him fear God and his mouth is stopped he would have them prisoned surely cryes the Gentry and the Country these fellows minde nothing but their bellies and have made a prey of us and it is true what Quakers sayes we have spent our money for that which is not bread and we will even turn to Christ who is that bread which comes down from above and know the Ministers that are made by his will which he and the Father sends forth for these are all below and are made by men and by learning and serve Apprentiships like Prentise boys and we have given our money to them and now they are not able to stand before