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tamen_fw-la filium_fw-la ea_fw-la compellatione_fw-la dicere_fw-la and_o certain_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n in_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr clericis_fw-la cap._n 28._o and_o the_o second_o conclusion_n with_o the_o reason_n he_o render_v for_o it_o say_v not_o by_o way_n of_o argument_n or_o question_n but_o definitive_o that_o ecclesiastical_a person_n be_v subject_a to_o secular_a prince_n but_o because_o this_o word_n subditi_fw-la be_v not_o there_o so_o formal_o express_v i_o think_v better_a to_o allege_v one_o of_o his_o own_o company_n that_o in_o express_v and_o direct_a term_n have_v say_v it_o &_o not_o only_o in_o that_o place_n before_o cite_v but_o repeat_v it_o also_o in_o the_o 36._o chapter_n i_o forbear_v to_o vouch_v s._n gregory_n in_o his_o epistle_n mention_v before_o where_o he_o call_v himself_o the_o subject_n &_o slave_n or_o servant_n of_o the_o emperor_n and_o bring_v in_o god_n speak_v thus_o unto_o he_o sacerdotes_fw-la meos_fw-la tuus_fw-la manui_fw-la 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