Selected quad for the lemma: ground_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
ground_n	authority_n	church_n	infallible_a	2,192	5	10.0772	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A39267	The reflecter's defence of his Letter to a friend against the furious assaults of Mr. I.S. in his Second Catholic letter in four dialogues.	Ellis, Clement, 1630-1700.	1688 (1688)	Wing E570; ESTC R17613	51,900	75

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