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A10046 The defence of truth against a booke falsely called The triumph of truth sent over from Arras A.D. 1609. By Humfrey Leech late minister Which booke in all particulars is answered, and the adioining motiues of his revolt confuted: by Daniell Price, of Exeter Colledge in Oxford, chaplaine in ordinary to the most high and mighty, the Prince of Wales. Price, Daniel, 1581-1631.; Leech, Humphrey, 1571-1629. Triumph of truth. 1610 (1610) STC 20292; ESTC S115193 202,996 384

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