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de_fw-fr corpore_fw-la domini_fw-la to_o berengarius_fw-la nicolaus_n papa_n comperiens_fw-la te_fw-la docere_fw-la panem_fw-la vinumque_fw-la altaris_fw-la post_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la sine_fw-la materiali_fw-la mutatione_n in_fw-la pristinis_fw-la essentiis_fw-la remanere_fw-la etc._n etc._n praecepti_fw-la tradi_fw-la scripturam_fw-la tibi_fw-la i._n e._n the_o recantation_n name_v before_o guitmund_n l._n 3._o de_fw-fr corpore_fw-la domini_fw-la speak_v of_o the_o same_o council_n say_v panem_fw-la in_o corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la substantialiter_fw-la converti_fw-la non_fw-la sicut_fw-la delirat_fw-la berengarius_fw-la corporis_fw-la domini_fw-la figuras_fw-la tantum_fw-la esse_fw-la &_o umbras_fw-la aut_fw-la intra_fw-la se_fw-la latentem_fw-la christum_fw-la tegere_fw-la universalis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la consensione_n roboratum_fw-la est_fw-la anselm_n though_o i_o grant_v it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o understand_v this_o to_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o former_a council_n notwithstanding_o semper_fw-la abhorruit_fw-la some_o way_n involve_v it_o panis_n substantiam_fw-la post_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la in_o altari_fw-la superesse_fw-la semper_fw-la abhorruit_fw-la pietas_fw-la christiana_n nuperque_fw-la damnavit_fw-la in_o berengario_fw-la &_o but_o anselm_n die_v a_o hundred_o year_n before_o the_o lateran_n council_n beside_o the_o force_n of_o these_o testimony_n it_o be_v not_o probable_a that_o in_o the_o eighteen_o year_n space_n that_o intercede_v between_o these_o two_o council_n the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o late_a shall_v be_v so_o much_o alter_v and_o that_o without_o any_o noise_n or_o opposition_n from_o the_o former_a former_a xlviii_o 4._o concern_v these_o council_n that_o have_v so_o strict_o determine_v the_o manner_n of_o corporal_a presence_n eucharist_n council_n excusable_a in_o determination_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o christ_n presence_n in_o the_o eucharist_n which_o many_o pious_a man_n have_v wish_v that_o the_o church_n have_v rather_o leave_v undefined_a permit_v to_o every_o one_o the_o liberty_n of_o their_o private_a conjecture_n and_o only_o impose_v silence_n on_o all_o to_o forbear_v curious_a dispute_n yet_o we_o may_v consider_v that_o the_o same_o we_o say_v concern_v this_o point_n of_o the_o eucharist_n be_v say_v by_o sectary_n concern_v decision_n of_o council_n in_o any_o other_o point_n wherein_o they_o differ_v from_o her_o judgement_n so_o she_o be_v by_o several_a complain_v of_o for_o she_o too_o much_o curiosity_n and_o punctuality_n in_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o trinity_n in_o her_o addition_n a_o filioque_fw-la in_o conclude_v that_o hard_a and_o long-disputed_n point_n of_o rebaptisation_n etc._n etc._n that_o not_o private_a man_n but_o the_o church_n herself_o be_v meet_a to_o judge_n what_o be_v fit_a to_o be_v determine_v or_o not_o determine_v by_o she_o that_o curious_a dispute_n may_v indeed_o easy_o be_v prohibit_v but_o once_o on_o foot_n will_v never_o be_v actual_o lay_v but_o still_o multiply_v into_o new_a controversy_n till_o something_o most_o probable_a be_v settle_v by_o just_a authority_n that_o as_o there_o be_v then_o on_o foot_n some_o opinion_n very_o destructive_a and_o diminutive_a to_o this_o ineffable_a mystery_n as_o berengarius_fw-la his_o first_o doctrine_n so_z other_o again_o very_o extravagant_a as_o that_o of_o hypostatical_a union_n of_o the_o deity_n to_o a_o new_a breaden_a body_n that_o these_o council_n do_v no_o more_o in_o this_o than_o other_o council_n from_o time_n to_o time_n have_v do_v in_o very_o subtle_a only_a if_o much_o controvert_v matter_n in_o not_o silence_v the_o disputant_n but_o as_o become_v a_o judge_n confide_v in_o the_o holy_a spirit_n be_v assistance_n determine_v the_o point_n as_o seem_v to_o they_o true_a that_o these_o council_n in_o this_o point_n after_o all_o thing_n have_v be_v for_o a_o long_a time_n more_o exact_o debate_v and_o sift_v than_o in_o former_a age_n before_o give_v any_o sentence_n thereon_o in_o their_o decision_n follow_v the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n mat._n 26.26_o in_o their_o simple_a meaning_n and_o the_o common_a phrase_n of_o the_o write_n of_o antiquity_n though_o some_o father_n in_o their_o judgement_n perhaps_o differ_v from_o the_o rest_n i._n e._n conversion_n or_o transmutation_n take_v in_o the_o strict_a sense_n that_o if_o we_o restrain_v the_o church_n from_o determine_v any_o thing_n where_o scripture_n seem_v ambiguous_a though_o the_o testimony_n and_o exposition_n of_o antiquity_n perhaps_o in_o the_o same_o point_n be_v not_o so_o her_o decisive_a authority_n in_o matter_n once_o controvert_v will_v be_v make_v void_a because_o so_o often_o be_v scripture_n ambiguous_a i.e._n by_o several_a man_n several_o understand_v and_o in_o matter_n not_o controvert_v it_o be_v needless_a that_o there_o come_v 〈◊〉_d more_o peace_n to_o the_o church_n by_o such_o a_o definition_n and_o no_o danger_n to_o christian_n from_o this_o thing_n define_v if_o a_o error_n suppose_v still_a corporal_a presence_n a_o truth_n from_o which_o also_o follow_v adoration_n because_o it_o be_v only_o a_o pure_o speculative_a mistake_n and_o no_o point_n of_o practice_n depend_v on_o it_o last_o that_o in_o the_o general_a acknowledgement_n of_o so_o much_o obscurity_n and_o uncomprehensibleness_n of_o this_o mystery_n as_o the_o church_n have_v less_o light_a to_o judge_n of_o the_o exact_a manner_n thereof_o etc._n etc._n so_o have_v other_o less_o ground_n to_o contradict_v her_o judgement_n as_o for_o her_o make_n it_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n now_o which_o be_v not_o so_o heretofore_o which_o be_v much_o object_v by_o some_o reform_a faith._n in_o what_o sense_n they_o impose_v it_o as_o a_o article_n of_o faith._n see_v chemnitius_n quote_v before_o sed_fw-la quia_fw-la transubstantiatio_fw-la say_v he_o pro_fw-la articulo_fw-la fidei_fw-la sub_fw-la paena_fw-la anathematis_fw-la proponitur_fw-la necessario_fw-la contradicendum_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n see_v dr._n taylor_n p._n 331._o before_o the_o lateran_n council_n say_v he_o transubstantiatio_fw-la non_fw-la fuit_fw-la dogma_fw-la fidei_fw-la as_o scotus_n say_v and_o how_o it_o can_v be_v afterward_o since_o christ_n be_v only_o the_o author_n and_o finisher_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o therefore_o all_o faith_n be_v deliver_v from_o the_o beginning_n be_v a_o matter_n of_o high_a danger_n and_o consideration_n thus_o he_o i_o think_v it_o be_v sufficient_o answer_v and_o the_o offence_n thereof_o take_v away_o in_o my_o note_n of_o infallibility_n so_o that_o i_o need_v say_v little_a here_o only_o this_o first_o they_o make_v this_o point_n of_o transubstantiation_n no_o more_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n than_o their_o other_o decree_n to_o which_o they_o require_v assent_v under_o anathema_n as_o they_o do_v to_o this_o for_o example_n it_o be_v make_v no_o more_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n by_o they_o than_o this_o be_v de_fw-fr bapt._n can._n 1._o baptismum_fw-la johannis_n non_fw-la habere_fw-la eandem_fw-la vim_o cum_fw-la baptismo_fw-la christi_fw-la but_o if_o the_o church_n may_v not_o be_v permit_v to_o make_v thus_o new_a article_n of_o faith_n she_o may_v not_o to_o make_v any_o new_a determination_n not_o former_o make_v nor_o to_o enjoin_v people_n to_o believe_v or_o assent_v to_o any_o thing_n which_o former_o be_v not_o enjoin_v nor_o believe_v but_o to_o explain_v the_o business_n a_o little_a we_o must_v know_v that_o all_o divine_a revelation_n any_o thing_n in_o god_n word_n whatever_o be_v eo_fw-la nomine_fw-la a_o article_n or_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o that_o as_o article_n of_o faith_n be_v take_v for_o dogma_fw-la verum_fw-la and_o so_o credible_a for_o a_o divine_a truth_n which_o be_v creditable_a or_o which_o may_v be_v most_o sure_o believe_v so_o what_o dr._n taylor_n say_v be_v most_o true_a such_o it_o be_v not_o only_o after_o decree_v by_o a_o council_n but_o at_o least_o from_o the_o time_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o the_o apostle_n and_o nothing_o at_o any_o time_n thus_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v not_o so_o always_o and_o thus_o far_o doubtless_o be_v it_o from_o scotus_n his_o thought_n that_o transubstantiation_n at_o the_o lateran_n council_n begin_v to_o be_v a_o divine_a truth_n when_o it_o be_v not_o so_o