Selected quad for the lemma: ground_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
ground_n authority_n church_n faith_n 5,185 5 6.2589 4 true
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A67437 The history & vindication of the loyal formulary, or Irish remonstrance ... received by His Majesty anno 1661 ... in several treatises : with a true account and full discussion of the delusory Irish remonstrance and other papers framed and insisted on by the National Congregation at Dublin, anno 1666, and presented to ... the Duke of Ormond, but rejected by His Grace : to which are added three appendixes, whereof the last contains the Marquess of Ormond ... letter of the second of December, 1650 : in answer to both the declaration and excommunication of the bishops, &c. at Jamestown / the author, Father Peter Walsh ... Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. Articles of peace.; Rothe, David, 1573-1650. Queries concerning the lawfulnesse of the present cessation. 1673 (1673) Wing W634; ESTC R13539 1,444,938 1,122

There are 21 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

withal_o that_o if_o they_o have_v state_v or_o suppose_v it_o otherwise_o as_o they_o do_v not_o or_o if_o we_o do_v suppose_v even_o all_o the_o civil_a or_o temporal_a power_n in_o the_o world_n confer_v by_o the_o world_n itself_o on_o the_o great_a pontiff_n or_o on_o the_o church_n or_o churchman_n to_o make_v what_o law_n he_o or_o they_o please_v in_o all_o civil_a thing_n and_o for_o all_o mortal_a man_n and_o by_o themselves_o to_o govern_v the_o world_n as_o the_o only_a supreme_a civil_a governor_n yet_o my_o judgement_n will_v be_v still_o that_o even_o in_o such_o a_o case_n according_a to_o natural_a reason_n there_o can_v be_v no_o power_n at_o all_o in_o the_o pope_n or_o church_n as_o indeed_o none_o be_v at_o present_a nor_o can_v be_v at_o any_o time_n in_o the_o prince_n or_o people_n themselves_o or_o both_o or_o even_o together_o with_o the_o church_n to_o exempt_a churchman_n from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a magistrate_n in_o who_o dominion_n they_o live_v and_o yet_o in_o the_o case_n which_o be_v now_o in_o be_v of_o the_o pope_n be_v at_o present_a the_o supreme_a civil_a magistrate_n in_o rome_n and_o in_o the_o whole_a temporal_a patrimony_n of_o st._n peter_n in_o some_o tract_n of_o italy_n for_o so_o at_o least_o he_o be_v in_o effect_n or_o by_o actual_a possession_n of_o the_o right_n of_o such_o a_o supreme_a civil_a magistrate_n he_o can_v by_o any_o argument_n of_o natural_a reason_n exempt_v the_o clergy_n of_o those_o tract_n from_o his_o own_o say_v supreme_a civil_a power_n of_o they_o unless_o he_o at_o the_o same_o time_n divest_v himself_o whole_o of_o that_o very_a same_o supreme_a civil_a power_n and_o quit_v it_o absolute_o to_o some_o other_o whereof_o more_o hereafter_o in_o the_o follow_a section_n where_o it_o will_v appear_v that_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n from_o the_o supreme_a power_n of_o king_n under_o who_o they_o live_v and_o who_o they_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v also_o their_o own_o king_n imply_v a_o most_o plain_a and_o manifest_a contradiction_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n let_v we_o now_o to_o the_o only_a argument_n remain_v those_o natural_a or_o theological_a reason_n of_o the_o other_o side_n for_o such_o a_o power_n in_o the_o pope_n or_o church_n these_o reason_n such_o as_o they_o be_v i_o find_v to_o be_v in_o all_o seven_o or_o eight_o six_o whereof_o be_v frame_v by_o dominicus_n soto_n and_o the_o other_o two_o by_o franciscus_n victoria_n albeit_o five_o of_o those_o fix_n be_v only_o to_o prove_v the_o say_a exemption_n as_o to_o the_o person_n of_o clergieman_n but_o the_o rest_n to_o prove_v it_o not_o only_o as_o to_o their_o person_n but_o as_o to_o their_o good_n also_o and_o beside_o these_o eight_o reason_n i_o see_v no_o other_o in_o these_o or_o other_o author_n of_o their_o way_n nor_o indeed_o any_o thing_n else_o not_o even_o in_o covar●●vias_n himself_o but_o some_o few_o authority_n of_o other_o canonist_n which_o be_v not_o worth_a the_o while_n nor_o at_o all_o proper_a to_o repeat_v here_o be_v such_o as_o they_o neither_o belong_v to_o reason_n nor_o have_v on_o other_o account_n any_o power_n of_o persuasion_n the_o first_o general_a reason_n of_o dominicus_n soto_n prove_a this_o exemption_n as_o well_o necessary_a as_o congruous_a and_o both_o as_o to_o the_o good_n and_o as_o to_o the_o person_n of_o clergiemen_n ecclesiastical_a power_n say_v he_o be_v per_fw-la se_fw-la that_o be_v of_o itself_o or_o by_o its_o own_o nature_n sufficient_a and_o independent_a from_o the_o civil_a power_n therefore_o it_o may_v of_o itself_o make_v all_o such_o law_n as_o be_v either_o necessary_a or_o convenient_a for_o its_o own_o administration_n quae_fw-la suae_fw-la administrationi_fw-la sunt_fw-la necessariae_fw-la vel_fw-la congruentes_fw-la but_o the_o law_n of_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n both_o as_o to_o their_o good_n and_o person_n from_o all_o kind_n of_o secular_a magistrate_n even_o the_o very_a most_o supreme_a be_v either_o necessary_a or_o at_o least_o very_a congruent_a that_o be_v to_o say_v be_v at_o least_o convenient_a or_o agreeable_a or_o meet_v or_o fit_v or_o expedient_a for_o church_n administration_n now_o to_o prove_v this_o assumption_n first_o as_o to_o the_o person_n or_o to_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v even_o necessary_a that_o the_o person_n of_o churchman_n shall_v be_v so_o exempt_a soto_n give_v four_o specifical_a reason_n as_o immediate_o after_o he_o give_v also_o a_o five_o to_o prove_v it_o necessary_a as_o to_o their_o very_a good_n the_o first_o specifical_a reason_n or_o medium_n of_o soto_n to_o prove_v it_o necessary_a as_o to_o their_o person_n for_o say_v he_o whereas_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n be_v constitute_v according_a to_o divine_a law_n it_o must_v seem_v in_o the_o next_o degree_n of_o proximity_n to_o the_o say_a law_n divine_a that_o they_o may_v not_o be_v call_v upon_o or_o command_v by_o the_o secular_a judge_n second_o specifical_a reason_n as_o to_o the_o person_n it_o may_v happen_v that_o among_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n whereof_o lie_v ●en_o can_v be_v judge_n some_o civil_a matter_n do_v intervene_v and_o therefore_o if_o clergiemens_n person_n be_v not_o exempt_a from_o all_o kind_n of_o secular_a judicatories_n they_o must_v be_v in_o such_o case_n perplex_v not_o know_v which_o tribunal_n to_o obey_v when_o call_v upon_o by_o both_o ecclesiastical_a and_o secular_a three_o specifical_a reason_n of_o soto_n as_o to_o the_o person_n it_o will_v not_o be_v decent_a nor_o have_v any_o decorum_n that_o the_o minister_n of_o church_n who_o be_v pastor_n of_o even_o those_o very_a judge_n themselves_o nay_o and_o of_o king_n too_o shall_v be_v as_o criminal_o or_o guilty_a person_n call_v upon_o by_o those_o judge_n or_o bind_v to_o appear_v as_o such_o before_o they_o four_o specifical_a reason_n of_o soto_n as_o to_o the_o person_n whereas_o the_o civil_a power_n and_o ecclesiastical_a be_v in_o their_o own_o nature_n whole_o distinct_a or_o different_a it_o be_v necessary_a that_o as_o each_o have_v its_o own_o proper_a minister_n so_o the_o minister_n of_o each_o have_v their_o own_o proper_a superior_n hitherto_o this_o learned_a schoolman_n as_o to_o the_o person_n but_o as_o to_o the_o good_n of_o clergieman_n his_o only_a reason_n be_v which_o be_v in_o order_n the_o six_o of_o those_o reason_n that_o whereas_o tribute_n and_o custom_n be_v pay_v to_o king_n in_o lieu_n of_o or_o as_o a_o recompense_n for_o the_o labour_n they_o undergo_v in_o rule_a the_o commonwealth_n and_o whereas_o clerk_n undergo_v no_o less_o in_o discharge_n of_o their_o own_o duty_n or_o towards_o the_o maintenance_n of_o the_o church_n it_o seem_v but_o a_o due_a recompensation_n that_o their_o good_n be_v exempt_a from_o all_o tribut_n tax_n etc._n etc._n seven_o reason_n but_o give_v by_o franciscus_n victoria_n to_o prove_v the_o necessity_n of_o a_o power_n in_o the_o church_n to_o exempt_v both_o good_n and_o person_n the_o ecclesiastical_a republic_n be_v perfect_a in_o itself_o and_o sufficient_a in_o itself_o therefore_o it_o have_v power_n to_o make_v such_o law_n as_o be_v convenient_a for_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o also_o if_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n from_o the_o civil_a power_n even_o supreme_a be_v convenient_a for_o such_o administration_n it_o have_v power_n to_o enact_v such_o exemption_n by_o law_n eight_o and_o last_o reason_n and_o it_o be_v of_o the_o same_o franciscus_n victoria_n but_o as_o to_o the_o person_n only_o the_o pope_n may_v by_o his_o own_o proper_a authority_n choose_v fix_v on_o or_o design_n and_o actual_o appoint_v and_o justice_n to_o ecclesiastical_a minister_n notwithstanding_o any_o contradiction_n of_o the_o civil_a power_n therefore_o he_o may_v also_o ●●on_v the_o same_o ground_n or_o for_o the_o some_o reason_n exempt_v those_o ecclesiastical_a minister_n from_o the_o secular_a power_n and_o these_o be_v all_o the_o argument_n ground_v on_o reason_n or_o which_o as_o ground_v pure_o or_o chief_o on_o reason_n the_o common_a principle_n of_o faith_n or_o of_o the_o existence_n of_o a_o christian_a church_n be_v once_o admit_v ou●_n adversary_n bring_v but_o whether_o any_o of_o all_o be_v sufficient_o convince_a or_o whether_o any_o of_o all_o be_v as_o much_o as_o probable_a i_o mean_v intrinsical_o probable_a the_o indifferent_a judicious_a reader_n be_v to_o give_v his_o judgement_n when_o i_o have_v do_v my_o devoir_n in_o answer_v for_o i_o remember_v what_o i_o have_v undertake_v section_n lxii_o to_o show_v not_o only_o that_o no_o convince_a argument_n of_o natural_a reason_n can_v be_v produce_v but_o not_o even_o as_o much_o as_o any_o probable_a argument_n of_o such_o reason_n mean_v still_o by_o probable_a that_o which_o be_v intrinsical_o such_o though_o i_o do_v withal_o advertise_v here_o that_o no_o even_o intrinsic_a
such_o authority_n as_o be_v true_o unanswerable_a nor_o to_o such_o reason_n as_o be_v true_o demonstrative_a no_o not_o then_o when_o they_o have_v not_o a_o word_n to_o reply_v not_o even_o the_o most_o learned_a and_o most_o resolute_a of_o they_o i_o mean_v and_o i_o mean_v they_o also_o too_o when_o sit_v together_o in_o the_o most_o general_a congregation_n of_o their_o representatives_n behold_v the_o cause_n wherefore_o several_a of_o the_o more_o lead_v and_o more_o intrigue_v of_o they_o and_o long_o before_o the_o say_v general_a congregation_n be_v hold_v find_v upon_o one_o side_n a_o absolute_a necessity_n on_o themselves_o to_o offer_v at_o least_o some_o kind_n of_o remonstrance_n of_o their_o loyalty_n that_o they_o may_v not_o seem_v to_o disow_v their_o be_v subject_n and_o on_o the_o other_o intend_v not_o to_o come_v home_o to_o the_o content_n of_o that_o of_o 1661._o so_o censure_v by_o the_o divine_n of_o louvain_n and_o by_o the_o several_a letter_n of_o the_o internuncio_n of_o flanders_n and_o of_o cardinal_n francis_n bellarmine_n most_o earnest_o and_o manifold_o attempt_v and_o this_o too_o by_o the_o mediation_n of_o several_a person_n of_o quality_n and_o honour_n both_o lord_n and_o lady_n of_o their_o own_o religion_n and_o some_o too_o of_o the_o protestant_n to_o persuade_v his_o grace_n my_o lord_z lieutenant_z to_o be_v content_a with_o and_o accept_v of_o such_o a_o remonstrance_n as_o they_o will_v frame_v for_o themselves_o be_v as_o they_o pretend_v they_o desire_v this_o favour_n not_o to_o decline_v the_o substance_n of_o father_n walshe_n remonstrance_n as_o they_o call_v it_o but_o to_o give_v it_o in_o their_o own_o language_n for_o the_o reason_n elsewhere_o already_o give_v in_o this_o book_n and_o behold_v the_o cause_n also_o why_o though_o his_o grace_n do_v as_o often_o condescend_v to_o their_o desire_n in_o that_o behalf_n as_o they_o make_v it_o by_o other_o or_o even_o by_o themselves_o yet_o have_v to_o that_o purpose_n receive_v several_a paper_n from_o they_o beside_o those_o give_v before_o as_o from_o the_o dominican_n and_o jesuit_n and_z no_o two_o of_o all_o agree_v full_o either_o in_o word_n or_o substance_n much_o less_o any_o of_o all_o come_v home_o in_o all_o part_n to_o the_o substance_n of_o that_o of_o 1661._o which_o by_o all_o mean_v they_o decline_v his_o grace_n consider_v also_o they_o be_v but_o particular_a person_n or_o particular_a order_n at_o most_o and_o such_o as_o can_v not_o undertake_v for_o other_o person_n and_o order_n of_o the_o irish_a clergy_n to_o concur_v with_o they_o in_o these_o form_n offer_v by_o they_o how_o short_a soever_o of_o that_o know_v formulary_a which_o be_v still_o a_o bugbear_n to_o they_o all_o indifferent_o answer_v every_o of_o they_o they_o come_v short_a of_o their_o pretend_a offer_n that_o he_o clear_o see_v it_o be_v not_o against_o the_o word_n only_o but_o against_o both_o word_n and_o substance_n or_o sense_n of_o father_n walshe_n remonstrance_n they_o except_v and_o that_o be_v this_o substance_n or_o sense_n to_o the_o full_a and_o in_o all_o part_n of_o it_o be_v necessary_a from_o they_o he_o can_v not_o but_o expect_v their_o subscription_n to_o that_o very_a remonstrance_n which_o his_o majesty_n have_v already_o and_o so_o gracious_o accept_v of_o as_o be_v sign_v so_o free_o and_o affectionate_o present_v by_o a_o considerable_a number_n both_o of_o the_o irish_a clergy_n and_o of_o the_o irish_a nobility_n and_o gentry_n because_o although_o perhaps_o some_o of_o they_o intend_v in_o some_o measure_n to_o come_v near_o the_o substance_n or_o sense_n of_o that_o his_o majesty_n so_o receive_v yet_o there_o must_v be_v some_o mystery_n still_o in_o vary_v from_o it_o beside_o that_o there_o will_v be_v no_o end_n in_o give_v way_n to_o such_o variety_n and_o that_o none_o of_o those_o who_o perhaps_o mean_v well_o in_o other_o word_n can_v or_o will_v engage_v the_o rest_n shall_v approve_v of_o what_o they_o offer_v in_o such_o word_n much_o less_o subscribe_v to_o it_o the_o paper_n so_o offer_v and_o present_v to_o his_o grace_n beside_o those_o other_o you_o have_v see_v already_o of_o the_o dominican_n pag._n 56._o and_o of_o the_o jesuit_n pag._n 84_o 85_o and_o 86._o be_v these_o follow_v a_o paper_n give_v or_o deliver_v to_o the_o duke_z by_o colonel_n gerrot_n moor_n 27_o march_n 1664._o as_n say_v he_o the_o substance_n of_o that_o which_o the_o romish_a clergy_n be_v ready_a to_o subscribe_v and_o declare_v but_o i_o say_v it_o appear_v after_o in_o their_o general_a congregation_n of_o 1666._o at_o dublin_n as_o you_o may_v see_v in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o this_o first_o treatise_n and_o in_o the_o second_o and_o three_o treatise_n of_o this_o book_n they_o be_v far_o enough_o from_o be_v ready_a to_o subscribe_v or_o declare_v any_o such_o thing_n or_o paper_n how_o even_o short_a soever_o or_o not_o home_n enough_o to_o the_o point_n i_o engage_v myself_o to_o expose_v my_o life_n if_o occasion_n shall_v require_v in_o defence_n of_o his_o majesty_n person_n and_o royal_a authority_n against_o any_o prince_n person_n or_o power_n spiritual_n or_o temporal_a foreign_a or_o domestic_a that_o shall_v invade_v or_o disturb_v even_o by_o sedition_n or_o rebellion_n his_o majesty_n right_n person_n authority_n or_o government_n and_o hereunto_o i_o engage_v myself_o to_o be_v true_o faithful_a notwithstanding_o any_o sentence_n of_o deposition_n excommunication_n censure_n declaration_n absolution_n or_o dispensation_n whatsoever_o i_o likewise_o abhor_v and_o detest_v from_o my_o very_a soul_n the_o position_n father_v without_o any_o just_a ground_n upon_o roman_n catholic_n that_o faith_n be_v not_o to_o be_v keep_v with_o a_o people_n of_o a_o different_a judgement_n in_o religion_n from_o they_o another_o paper_n or_o form_n of_o a_o latin_a declaration_n or_o protestation_n offer_v by_o patrick_n daly_n doctor_n of_o the_o civil_a and_o canon_n law_n vicar_n general_n of_o armagh_n and_o judge_n delegate_n of_o the_o province_n of_o armagh_n to_o be_v subscribe_v by_o himself_o as_o give_v also_o by_o himself_o to_o the_o lord_z lieutenant_z on_o the_o seven_o of_o april_n 1664._o the_o earl_n of_o clancarty_n and_o lord_n birmingham_n be_v present_a gentem_fw-la illam_fw-la nimis_fw-la barbaram_fw-la imo_fw-la a_o lege_fw-la naturae_fw-la omnino_fw-la alienam_fw-la esse_fw-la oportet_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la reges_fw-la a_o deo_fw-la sibi_fw-la impositos_fw-la amant_fw-fr vereantur_fw-la &_o revereantur_fw-la qui_fw-la regium_fw-la nomen_fw-la &_o majestatem_fw-la ut_fw-la rem_fw-la augustam_fw-la &_o plane_n divinam_fw-la non_fw-la secundum_fw-la ipsum_fw-la deum_fw-la in_o temporalibus_fw-la amplectendum_fw-la esse_fw-la censeant_fw-la &_o colendum_fw-la hybernis_fw-la igitur_fw-la omnibus_fw-la incumbit_fw-la sed_fw-la iis_fw-la praecipue_fw-la qui_fw-la altari_fw-la inserviunt_fw-la &_o aliorum_fw-la instructionem_fw-la susceperint_fw-la manifestare_fw-la quo_fw-la quantoque_fw-la gaudio_fw-la auspicantissimam_fw-la serenissimi_fw-la nostri_fw-la monarchae_n maugurationem_fw-la ejusque_fw-la reditum_fw-la ad_fw-la capescendum_fw-la majorem_fw-la imperium_fw-la concelebrent_fw-la hinc_fw-la ego_fw-la ut_fw-la &_o alios_fw-la omnes_fw-la decet_fw-la faelicissimo_fw-la nostro_fw-la principi_fw-la qui_fw-la have_v gentes_fw-la &_o prae_fw-la aliis_fw-la svam_fw-la hyberniam_fw-la ex_fw-la faucibus_fw-la crudelium_fw-la tyrannorum_fw-la quorum_fw-la sub_fw-la immani_fw-la jugo_fw-la hactenus_fw-la gemuere_fw-la eripuit_fw-la cur_n non_fw-la fausta_fw-la omne_fw-la &_o prospeta_fw-la voveam_fw-la cum_fw-la long_o a_o christiana_n pielate_fw-la absit_fw-la aliter_fw-la vel_fw-la facere_fw-la vel_fw-la sentire_fw-la at_o cum_fw-la audierim_n apud_fw-la multos_fw-la suspiciorem_fw-la suboriri_fw-la viros_fw-la nonnullos_fw-la nostri_fw-la ordinis_fw-la in_fw-la hoc_fw-la regno_fw-la esse_fw-la qui_fw-la intestinas_fw-la seditiones_fw-la moliri_fw-la imo_fw-la vires_fw-la externas_fw-la ad_fw-la rebellandum_fw-la contra_fw-la sacram_fw-la regis_fw-la majestatem_fw-la afcistere_fw-la conentur_fw-la &_o aspirent_fw-la celare_fw-la nec_fw-la possum_fw-la nec_fw-la debeo_fw-la qua_fw-la observantia_fw-la quo_fw-la amore_fw-la &_o animi_fw-la finceritate_fw-la in_o inctissimi_fw-la mei_fw-la regis_fw-la obedientiam_fw-la &_o prosperitatem_fw-la rerar_fw-it quomodoque_fw-la ad_fw-la id_fw-la fideliter_fw-la praestandum_fw-la vel_fw-la sacramento_n paratus_fw-la sum_fw-la i_o addicere_fw-la itaque_fw-la sincere_a &_o sine_fw-la omni_fw-la aequivocatione_fw-la fuco_fw-la aut_fw-la mentis_fw-la reservatione_fw-la sanctissime_fw-la in_o i_o recipio_fw-la &_o in_o verbo_fw-la sacerdotis_fw-la affirmo_fw-la serenissimum_fw-la regem_fw-la nostrum_fw-la carolum_fw-la secundum_fw-la vero_fw-la legitimo_fw-la &_o haereditario_fw-la jure_fw-la huic_fw-la regno_fw-la hiberniae_fw-la &_o aliis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la suis_fw-la regnis_fw-la &_o ditionibus_fw-la dominari_fw-la meque_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la temporalibus_fw-la &_o civilibus_fw-la illi_fw-la fidelissime_fw-la &_o merito_fw-la obtemperaturum_fw-la nullamque_fw-la sub_fw-la coelo_fw-la esse_fw-la potestatem_fw-la quae_fw-la i_o ab_fw-la hoc_fw-la sacramento_n fidelitatis_fw-la plus_fw-la quam_fw-la subditos_fw-la meae_fw-la functionis_fw-la principum_fw-la germaniae_fw-la hispaniae_fw-la aut_fw-la aliarum_fw-la nacionum_fw-la per_fw-la universum_fw-la christianum_fw-la
and_o religious_a do_v subscribe_v which_o be_v purposely_o make_v to_o secure_v the_o lay-gentleman_n that_o suppose_v they_o may_v enjoy_v the_o freedom_n of_o their_o religion_n they_o may_v lawful_o renounce_v the_o practice_n of_o these_o article_n which_o make_v the_o case_n far_o different_a both_o to_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o they_o conceive_v you_o intend_v to_o deny_v and_o destroy_v the_o probability_n of_o that_o opinion_n which_o they_o think_v it_o necessary_a for_o their_o end_n to_o maintain_v and_o therefore_o to_o keep_v their_o hold_n and_o conserve_v their_o pretend_a right_n they_o frame_v this_o decree_n in_o hug_a mugger_n and_o keep_v it_o private_a their_o chief_a motive_n be_v acknowledge_v in_o the_o decree_n itself_o lest_o it_o shall_v be_v say_v hereafter_o that_o his_o holiness_n do_v approve_v or_o connive_v at_o the_o subscription_n to_o such_o article_n as_o be_v prejudicial_a to_o his_o pontificial_a greatness_n the_o same_o be_v also_o express_o intimate_v to_o the_o pope_n nuncio_n here_o it_o be_v signify_v unto_o he_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o legal_a publication_n of_o it_o no_o more_o than_o there_o have_v be_v at_o rome_n nor_o consequent_o sure_a do_v they_o intend_v it_o shall_v oblige_v nay_o even_o they_o themselves_o will_v esteem_v he_o a_o very_a fool_n that_o will_v lose_v his_o estate_n or_o venture_v his_o life_n for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o this_o opinion_n or_o decree_n your_o negative_a answer_n to_o these_o article_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v according_a to_o your_o and_o the_o proposer_n intention_n that_o be_v to_o renounce_v the_o practice_n of_o they_o and_o profess_v they_o to_o be_v no_o part_n of_o your_o faith_n and_o religion_n which_o i_o believe_v the_o very_a court_n of_o rome_n do_v not_o pretend_v witness_v cardinal_n peron_n who_o after_o he_o have_v often_o aver_v in_o his_o oration_n to_o the_o noble_n of_o france_n in_o the_o year_n 1615._o that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o pope_n power_n to_o depose_v heretical_a king_n and_o absolve_v their_o subject_n from_o their_o obedience_n be_v only_o problematical_a and_o in_o particular_a that_o the_o catholic_n of_o england_n be_v oblige_v to_o obey_v king_n james_n then_o reign_v in_o his_o other_o oration_n to_o the_o three_o s●●te_n who_o urge_v and_o press_v to_o have_v the_o contrary_a doctrine_n receive_v as_o a_o fundamental_a law_n of_o the_o kingdom_n and_o as_o holy_a true_a and_o conformable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n have_v use_v all_o possible_a argument_n to_o dissuade_v they_o from_o this_o design_n and_o learned_o labour_v to_o show_v a_o great_a probability_n for_o the_o affirmative_a part_n he_o conclude_v towards_o the_o end_n of_o his_o speech_n that_o the_o pope_n do_v tolerate_v and_o suffer_v the_o contrary_a opinion_n to_o be_v hold_v so_o it_o be_v only_o maintain_v as_o problematical_a in_o matter_n of_o faith_n that_o be_v say_v he_o so_o it_o be_v not_o propose_v as_o necessary_a to_o faith_n nor_o the_o opposite_a declare_v as_o contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n impious_a and_o detestable_a beside_o this_o decree_n be_v give_v against_o the_o negative_a subscriber_n to_o unpublished_a article_n without_o any_o information_n or_o knowledge_n of_o the_o original_a instrument_n whereunto_o you_o priest_n do_v subscribe_v nay_o without_o call_v any_o of_o you_o to_o account_n but_o only_o in_o the_o air_n against_o the_o negative_a subscription_n suppose_v to_o be_v do_v they_o know_v not_o where_o nor_o how_o contrary_a to_o the_o ordinary_a form_n of_o our_o law_n and_v justice_n but_o every_o man_n who_o have_v negotiate_v in_o the_o court_n of_o rome_n can_v tell_v you_o that_o these_o congregational_a decree_n be_v general_o make_v by_o a_o few_o cardinal_n and_o prelate_n who_o to_o speak_v modest_o little_o know_v upon_o what_o ground_n and_o principle_n the_o abstruse_a sequels_fw-fr of_o faith_n be_v to_o be_v resolve_v they_o say_v in_o this_o they_o have_v consult_v divine_n that_o be_v perhaps_o some_o few_o foreign_a regulars_n who_o interest_n lie_v whole_o in_o that_o court_n depend_v immediate_o of_o it_o and_o exempt_v by_o his_o holiness_n from_o the_o ordinary_a and_o divine_a hierarchical_a government_n of_o the_o church_n who_o know_v nothing_o of_o the_o affair_n nor_o of_o the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o question_n be_v not_o like_a to_o deliver_v any_o other_o opinion_n than_o what_o their_o great_a patron_n will_v have_v they_o i_o wish_v with_o all_o my_o heart_n that_o with_o the_o loss_n of_o my_o blood_n i_o can_v blot_v out_o the_o belief_n of_o all_o experience_a man_n that_o nothing_o but_o interest_n and_o faction_n be_v prevalent_a in_o the_o court_n of_o rome_n it_o be_v now_o in_o every_o man_n mouth_n that_o understand_v the_o affair_n of_o the_o world_n that_o they_o seek_v their_o own_o end_n not_o the_o public_a good_a final_o i_o remark_n that_o they_o chief_o direct_v their_o decree_n to_o the_o superior_n of_o their_o exempt_v emissary_n no_o mention_n make_v of_o the_o bishop_n or_o clergy_n who_o be_v the_o only_a lawful_a and_o canonical_a publisher_n with_o the_o permission_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o state_n or_o civil_a magistrate_n of_o any_o true_a authentical_a spiritual_a command_n true_o if_o such_o a_o decree_n have_v be_v send_v hither_o and_o so_o illegal_o proclaim_v it_o will_v have_v be_v present_o condemn_v to_o be_v burn_v by_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o hangman_n in_o a_o word_n i_o see_v nothing_o capable_a to_o beget_v a_o scruple_n nor_o that_o aught_o to_o hinder_v any_o catholic_n from_o subscribe_v to_o the_o article_n as_o you_o have_v do_v nor_o shall_v i_o easy_o persuade_v myself_o that_o any_o wise_a and_o experience_a man_n will_v shrink_v from_o so_o just_a a_o act._n if_o your_o state_n king_n or_o parliament_n will_v suffer_v and_o tolerate_v you_o to_o live_v quiet_o under_o they_o which_o i_o wonder_v such_o able_a man_n shall_v boggle_v at_o i_o shall_v quick_o provide_v and_o help_v you_o with_o such_o advice_n from_o the_o most_o learned_a and_o most_o virtuous_a divine_n of_o europe_n as_o will_v make_v your_o ecclesiastical_a government_n a_o example_n to_o all_o other_o state_n and_o kingdom_n your_o neighbour_n and_o still_o conserve_n all_o due_a respect_n and_o spiritual_a obedience_n to_o the_o see_v of_o rome_n you_o shall_v free_v yourselves_o from_o all_o unnecessary_a and_o unfit_a dependence_n of_o the_o roman_a court_n wherein_o i_o shall_v furnish_v you_o with_o the_o resolution_n of_o such_o question_n as_o will_v open_v the_o eye_n of_o all_o your_o unexperienced_a and_o tender_a conscience_a countryman_n who_o have_v not_o have_v perhaps_o the_o mean_n to_o discern_v and_o distinguish_v their_o due_a and_o unnecessary_a obedience_n from_o a_o superfluous_a and_o unjust_a obsequiousness_n and_o which_o shall_v withal_o make_v appear_v to_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n the_o now_o well_o near_o fourscore_o year_n hard_a and_o unfatherly_a deal_n of_o the_o court_n of_o rome_n over_o the_o poor_a persecute_v and_o distress_a catholic_n of_o england_n let_v it_o therefore_o be_v your_o constant_a endeavour_n to_o give_v the_o king_n state_n or_o parliament_n full_a satisfaction_n and_o assurance_n of_o your_o fidelity_n to_o the_o civil_a and_o political_a government_n of_o your_o kingdom_n whatsoever_o it_o shall_v be_v which_o may_v most_o certain_o stand_v with_o the_o integrity_n of_o your_o religion_n and_o conscience_n for_o the_o rest_n fear_v nothing_o trust_v to_o the_o justice_n of_o your_o cause_n which_o you_o may_v assure_o believe_v will_v not_o want_v support_n for_o my_o particular_a according_a to_o my_o poor_a ability_n you_o shall_v ever_o find_v i_o your_o most_o love_a brother_n in_o christ_n and_o obedient_a servant_n t.h._n from_o paris_n this_o 2d_o of_o april_n 1648._o by_o which_o two_o several_a paper_n the_o write_v and_o the_o print_a the_o reader_n may_v understand_v full_o what_o he_o shall_v find_v hereafter_o answer_v by_o i_o in_o the_o year_n 1664._o to_o the_o foresay_a internuncio_n de_fw-fr vecchiis_fw-la concern_v his_o allegation_n or_o pretence_n of_o innocent_a the_o x_n have_v condemn_v these_o negative_n and_o consequent_o our_o remonstrance_n as_o for_o one_o part_n thereof_o coincident_a with_o or_o virtual_o contain_v in_o they_o four_o and_o last_o observation_n be_v concern_v that_o signal_n crafty_a admonition_n which_o the_o same_o de_fw-fr vecchiis_fw-la give_v as_o you_o have_v before_o see_v to_o father_n bruodin_n in_o these_o word_n signanter_n ut_fw-la sic_fw-la refutetu●_n illud_fw-la jura_n nentum_fw-la ne_fw-la tamen_fw-la regii_fw-la ministri_fw-la ansam_fw-la accipiant_fw-la in_o catholicos_fw-la saeviendi_fw-la eosque_fw-la tamquam_fw-la regius_fw-la dominationi_fw-la quia_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la defecerit_fw-la infestos_fw-la puniendi_fw-la if_o i_o be_v not_o much_o mistake_v de_fw-fr vecchiis_fw-la will_v have_v the_o antiremonstrants_a use_n all_o kind_n of_o other_o false_a argument_n to_o
will_v not_o agree_v with_o the_o parliament_n for_o not_o have_v it_o we_o be_v of_o opinion_n the_o best_a remedy_n the_o king_n be_v authority_n be_v take_v away_o as_o be_v say_v of_o meet_v this_o inconvenience_n of_o the_o people_n close_v with_o the_o parliament_n be_v return_v to_o the_o confederacy_n as_o be_v intend_v by_o the_o nation_n in_o case_n of_o breach_n of_o the_o peace_n of_o his_o majesty_n part_n this_o will_v keep_v a_o union_n among_o we_o if_o man_n will_v not_o be_v precipitant_o guilty_a of_o breach_n of_o their_o oath_n of_o association_n which_o oath_n by_o two_o solemn_a order_n of_o two_o several_a assembly_n be_v to_o continue_v bind_v if_o any_o breach_n of_o the_o article_n shall_v happen_v of_o his_o majesty_n part_n the_o king_n be_v authority_n and_o the_o lord_n lieutenant_n commission_n be_v recall_v by_o the_o declaration_n abovesaid_a we_o be_v of_o opinion_n the_o lord_n lieutenant_n have_v no_o such_o authority_n to_o leave_v if_o we_o must_v expose_v life_n and_o fortune_n to_o the_o hazard_n of_o fight_v for_o make_v good_a that_o peace_n see_v the_o danger_n and_o prejudice_n be_v alike_o to_o defend_v that_o or_o get_v a_o better_a peace_n why_o shall_v we_o bind_v ourselves_o within_o the_o limit_n of_o those_o article_n so_o disavow_v answer_n to_o this_o we_o answer_v that_o if_o they_o be_v always_o of_o opinion_n all_o their_o endeavour_n shall_v be_v employ_v to_o keep_v the_o king_n authority_n over_o they_o their_o declaration_n and_o excommunication_n be_v a_o strange_a way_n of_o manifest_v that_o opinion_n which_o declaration_n and_o excommunication_n bear_v date_n before_o his_o majesty_n declaration_n wherein_o they_o say_v he_o throw_v away_o the_o nation_n as_o rebel_n so_o that_o whatever_o his_o majesty_n have_v do_v in_o withdraw_v his_o authority_n it_o be_v apparent_a their_o endeavour_n to_o drive_v it_o away_o be_v first_o in_o time_n in_o their_o advice_n of_o return_v to_o the_o confederacy_n appear_v the_o scope_n of_o their_o dilemma_n and_o argument_n against_o the_o continuance_n of_o the_o king_n authority_n over_o they_o which_o that_o they_o may_v be_v sure_a to_o be_v rid_v of_o they_o say_v we_o have_v not_o authority_n to_o leave_v their_o reason_n why_o in_o conscience_n they_o can_v consent_v to_o the_o revocation_n of_o their_o declaration_n and_o excommunication_n follow_v upon_o consideration_n of_o the_o whole_a matter_n we_o may_v not_o consent_v with_o safety_n of_o conscience_n to_o the_o prouiso_n of_o revoke_v our_o declaration_n and_o excommunication_n demand_v by_o his_o excellency_n or_o grant_v any_o assurance_n to_o he_o or_o the_o commissioner_n of_o trust_n for_o not_o attempt_v the_o like_a in_o the_o future_a and_o that_o for_o many_o reason_n especial_o for_o first_o reason_n that_o the_o king_n authority_n be_v not_o in_o the_o lord_n lieutenant_n nor_o power_n in_o we_o to_o confer_v a_o new_a authority_n on_o he_o be_v also_o destructive_a to_o the_o nation_n to_o continue_v it_o in_o he_o and_o preservative_n if_o in_o another_o and_o that_o be_v our_o sense_n when_o we_o declare_v against_o the_o king_n authority_n in_o his_o person_n answer_n the_o king_n authority_n be_v to_o we_o when_o the_o declaration_n and_o excommunication_n be_v frame_v by_o they_o they_o acknowledge_v and_o that_o it_o be_v still_o in_o we_o notwithstanding_o his_o majesty_n say_a declaration_n we_o be_v able_a to_o make_v good_a if_o we_o can_v find_v it_o of_o advantage_n to_o his_o service_n or_o the_o safety_n of_o his_o good_a subject_n but_o that_o they_o confess_v it_o be_v not_o in_o they_o to_o confer_v a_o new_a authority_n upon_o we_o be_v one_o of_o the_o few_o truth_n they_o have_v set_v down_o yet_o why_o they_o may_v not_o pretend_v to_o give_v as_o well_o as_o take_v away_o authority_n and_o why_o they_o may_v not_o to_o we_o as_o well_o as_o to_o other_o we_o know_v not_o they_o further_o say_v it_o be_v destructive_a to_o the_o nation_n if_o continue_v in_o we_o and_o preservative_n if_o in_o another_o and_o this_o they_o say_v be_v their_o sense_n when_o they_o declare_v against_o the_o king_n authority_n in_o our_o person_n we_o will_v glad_o know_v what_o we_o have_v do_v to_o change_v their_o sense_n since_o the_o time_n that_o by_o their_o many_o profession_n former_o recite_v they_o seem_v to_o be_v of_o another_o opinion_n if_o it_o be_v for_o do_v little_a or_o nothing_o we_o believe_v we_o have_v make_v it_o appear_v they_o be_v principal_o guilty_a of_o our_o be_v out_o of_o action_n that_o it_o will_v be_v preservative_n to_o the_o nation_n to_o have_v authority_n to_o govern_v it_o in_o another_o we_o shall_v be_v glad_a to_o be_v convince_v in_o the_o event_n second_o reason_n we_o much_o fear_v we_o shall_v lose_v the_o few_o church_n remain_v under_o his_o government_n as_o we_o lose_v under_o he_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o city_n of_o waterford_n and_o kilkenny_n and_o the_o town_n of_o wexford_n rosse_n clonmel_n cashel_n fethard_n kilmallock_n etc._n etc._n in_o this_o agree_n with_o the_o maccabee_n maximus_fw-la vero_fw-la &_o primus_fw-la pro_fw-la sactitate_fw-la tim●r_fw-la exat_fw-la templi_fw-la answer_n the_o loss_n of_o the_o place_n mention_v here_o be_v answer_v elsewhere_o we_o shall_v only_o add_v that_o as_o cashel_n be_v late_o desert_v by_o some_o of_o those_o these_o man_n esteem_v obedient_a child_n of_o holy_a church_n so_o the_o same_o man_n can_v neither_o be_v persuade_v nor_o force_v into_o kilkenny_n when_o they_o have_v order_n for_o it_o and_o by_o that_o mean_v both_o place_n be_v lose_v three_o reason_n his_o excellency_n have_v declare_v at_o cork_n that_o he_o will_v maintain_v during_o his_o life_n the_o protestant_a religion_n according_a to_o the_o example_n of_o the_o best_a reform_a church_n which_o may_v be_v the_o same_o in_o substance_n with_o the_o oath_n of_o covenant_n for_o aught_o we_o know_v we_o may_v not_o expect_v from_o he_o defence_n of_o the_o catholic_n religion_n answer_n whatever_o we_o declare_v at_o cork_n in_o this_o particular_a be_v before_o the_o conclusion_n of_o the_o treaty_n of_o peace_n and_o be_v publish_v in_o print_n and_o then_o well_o know_v to_o many_o of_o these_o bishop_n so_o that_o they_o ought_v then_o to_o have_v be_v aware_a how_o they_o have_v conclude_v a_o peace_n with_o one_o that_o have_v make_v such_o a_o declaration_n rather_o than_o now_o after_o almost_o two_o year_n to_o make_v it_o a_o ground_n of_o break_v the_o peace_n what_o our_o opinion_n be_v of_o the_o covenant_n or_o the_o best_a reform_a church_n we_o hold_v not_o ourselves_o oblige_v to_o declare_v resolve_v we_o be_v to_o defend_v the_o peace_n conclude_v by_o we_o in_o all_o the_o part_n of_o it_o which_o we_o have_v faithful_o endeavour_v to_o do_v and_o shall_v still_o have_v endeavour_v it_o if_o we_o have_v not_o be_v interrupt_v affront_v and_o whole_o disable_v therein_o by_o the_o contrivement_n of_o those_o very_a bishop_n their_o brethren_n and_o instrument_n four_o reason_n the_o scandal_n over_o all_o the_o world_n to_o make_v choice_n of_o one_o of_o a_o different_a religion_n especial_o in_o rome_n where_o his_o holiness_n in_o his_o agreement_n or_o article_n with_o the_o queen_n of_o england_n have_v a_o catholic_n governor_n grant_v though_o not_o perform_v and_o we_o do_v fear_v the_o scourge_n of_o war_n and_o plague_n that_o have_v fall_v so_o heavy_a upon_o we_o be_v some_o evidence_n of_o god_n anger_n against_o we_o for_o put_v god_n cause_n and_o church_n under_o such_o a_o hand_n whereas_o that_o trust_n may_v have_v be_v manage_v in_o a_o catholic_n hand_n under_o the_o king_n authority_n answer_n now_o at_o length_n they_o be_v come_v plain_o to_o show_v the_o true_a ground_n of_o their_o exception_n to_o we_o which_o they_o have_v endeavour_v all_o the_o while_n to_o disguise_v under_o the_o personal_a scandal_n they_o have_v endeavour_v to_o cast_v upon_o we_o they_o be_v afraid_a of_o scandal_n at_o rome_n for_o make_v choice_n as_o they_o call_v it_o as_o if_o they_o may_v choose_v their_o governor_n of_o one_o of_o a_o different_a religion_n if_o this_o be_v allow_v they_o why_o they_o may_v not_o next_o pretend_v to_o the_o same_o fear_n of_o scandal_n for_o have_v a_o king_n of_o a_o different_a religion_n and_o to_o the_o power_n of_o choose_v one_o of_o their_o own_o religion_n we_o know_v not_o touch_v any_o agreement_n make_v between_o the_o queen_n of_o england_n and_o his_o holiness_n for_o a_o governor_n for_o this_o kingdom_n we_o have_v never_o hear_v of_o any_o such_o and_o we_o be_v most_o confident_a that_o in_o the_o agreement_n and_o consequent_o in_o the_o want_n of_o performance_n her_o majesty_n be_v false_o asperse_v by_o the_o framer_n of_o this_o paper_n five_o reason_n that_o we_o shall_v
one_o tittle_n or_o any_o one_o action_n hitherto_o allege_v against_o i_o as_o such_o other_o than_o what_o be_v in_o effect_n and_o substance_n my_o assertion_n or_o vindication_n of_o the_o supreme_a temporal_a sovereignty_n of_o the_o crown_n of_o these_o kingdom_n i._n e._n of_o their_o be_v in_o all_o temporal_n and_o all_o contingency_n whatsoever_o independent_a from_o any_o but_o god_n alone_o and_o therefore_o in_o temporal_n no_o way_n dependent_a from_o the_o pope_n either_o by_o divine_a or_o humane_a right_n whether_o any_o person_n may_v on_o such_o ground_n call_v in_o question_n the_o sincerity_n of_o my_o believe_v or_o profess_v as_o i_o ought_v all_o the_o undoubted_a article_n of_o the_o roman-catholick_n faith_n 3._o and_o see_v there_o be_v never_o yet_o any_o other_o matter_n not_o even_o by_o my_o great_a persecutor_n at_o any_o time_n object_v article_v o●_n pretend_v against_o i_o beside_o that_o i._n e._n beside_o my_o former_a oppose_v the_o nunioes_n censure_n and_o my_o late_a promote_a the_o remonstrance_n and_o my_o endeavour_n in_o both_o against_o the_o pretence_n of_o the_o roman_a bishop_n to_o the_o crown_n of_o england_n ireland_n scotland_n &c_n &c_n whether_o it_o may_v in_o any_o wise_a be_v say_v or_o think_v by_o unbiased_a learned_a man_n that_o i_o have_v give_v any_o real_a ground_n for_o the_o vile_a detraction_n of_o those_o who_o treat_v i_o every_o way_n as_o if_o i_o have_v be_v a_o desertor_n of_o the_o church_n 4._o nay_o whether_o consider_v first_o the_o nature_n of_o those_o two_o grand_a controversy_n wherein_o i_o have_v so_o free_o engage_v against_o all_o the_o power_n of_o the_o roman_a court_n abroad_o and_o all_o the_o endeavour_n of_o the_o nunioes_n party_n and_o antiremonstrant_a clergy_n at_o home_n second_o the_o most_o grievous_a manifold_a and_o continual_a persecution_n i_o suffer_v in_o both_o cause_n one_o while_o by_o suspension_n and_o deprivation_n another_o while_n by_o excommunication_n then_o by_o imprisonment_n in_o a_o foreign_a country_n even_o as_o far_o off_o as_o spain_n and_o then_o again_o by_o new_a thunder_n of_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n and_o by_o scandalous_a declaration_n and_o post_v of_o my_o name_n beside_o other_o frequent_a erterprise_n on_o several_a occasion_n against_o both_o my_o liberty_n and_o life_n three_o my_o continue_v constant_a in_o both_o cause_n even_o all_o along_o to_o this_o very_a day_n even_o also_o then_o and_o that_o not_o only_o once_o happen_v when_o i_o have_v no_o support_n in_o this_o world_n but_o my_o own_o conscience_n of_o suffering_n i._n e._n my_o own_o certain_a knowledge_n of_o my_o suffering_n only_o for_o righteousness_n sake_n nay_o then_o also_o when_o some_o of_o my_o chief_a adversary_n labour_v with_o all_o their_o powerful_a malice_n even_o here_o at_o london_n to_o compel_v i_o and_o spare_v not_o to_o speak_v open_o that_o either_o they_o will_v compel_v i_o to_o renounce_v the_o roman-catholick_n church_n and_o declare_v myself_o a_o heretic_n or_o they_o will_v make_v i_o submit_v to_o the_o roman_a court_n in_o the_o latter_a of_o these_o two_o cause_n viz._n that_o of_o the_o loyal_a remonstrance_n it_o be_v the_o only_a matter_n then_o prosecute_v against_o i_o fourthly_a their_o fail_v nevertheless_o to_o this_o present_a in_o obtain_v their_o will_n of_o i_o in_o either_o the_o one_o or_o other_o whether_o i_o say_v consider_v all_o this_o whereof_o beside_o many_o man_n i_o be_o sure_a the_o all-seeing_a god_n be_v witness_n it_o be_v not_o more_o likely_a that_o no_o kind_n of_o prejudice_n against_o the_o roman-catholick_n faith_n or_o church_n but_o a_o true_a and_o powerful_a zeal_n according_a to_o knowledge_n for_o the_o primitive_a christian_a purity_n of_o both_o be_v it_o that_o have_v set_v i_o against_o those_o opinion_n and_o practice_n flow_v in_o the_o corruption_n of_o latter_a age_n from_o the_o roman_a court_n which_o have_v shake_v religion_n divide_v christendom_n and_o bring_v a_o scandal_n upon_o faith_n as_o if_o it_o be_v to_o be_v support_v or_o advance_v by_o the_o wrath_n and_o rage_n of_o man_n by_o rebellion_n and_o slaughter_n by_o subversion_n of_o government_n and_o confusion_n of_o the_o world_n so_o make_v it_o a_o ground_n of_o jealousy_n to_o magistrate_n and_o divert_v peaceable_a and_o charitable_a soul_n from_o that_o union_n which_o ought_v to_o be_v among_o the_o disciple_n of_o christ_n 5._o also_o whether_o it_o may_v not_o by_o rational_a man_n be_v at_o least_o charitable_o believe_v that_o i_o will_v not_o so_o often_o at_o several_a time_n and_o upon_o several_a occasion_n since_o first_o i_o engage_v in_o either_o controversy_n especial_o in_o the_o last_o have_v refuse_v many_o preferment_n in_o my_o own_o order_n have_v reject_v many_o tempt_a proffer_n too_o even_o of_o episcopal_a dignity_n in_o my_o own_o country_n have_v also_o particular_o and_o late_o in_o the_o national_a synod_n or_o congregation_n hold_v at_o dublin_n anno_fw-la 1666_o and_o that_o in_o public_a before_o all_o the_o father_n refuse_v to_o yield_v by_o any_o mean_n to_o their_o press_a offer_n not_o only_o of_o all_o the_o best_a commendatory_a letter_n that_o can_v be_v draw_v on_o paper_n in_o my_o behalf_n both_o to_o his_o holiness_n himself_o who_o then_o be_v and_o the_o cardinal_n patron_n and_o the_o congregation_n de_fw-fr propaganda_fw-la and_o all_o other_o minister_n of_o the_o roman_a court_n as_o many_o as_o be_v concern_v in_o the_o affair_n of_o ireland_n but_o also_o of_o a_o yearly_a and_o very_a considerable_a salary_n too_o by_o general_a applotment_n amount_v as_o they_o esteem_v or_o compute_v it_o in_o three_o year_n to_o two_o thousand_o pound_n english_a money_n and_o in_o lieu_n of_o all_o these_o offer_n have_v deliberate_o choose_v to_o run_v the_o manifest_a hazard_n of_o undergo_a and_o according_o since_o to_o have_v in_o very_a deed_n undergo_v all_o the_o vexatious_a infamy_n of_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n in_o my_o own_o church_n order_n and_o country_n and_o all_o the_o further_a evil_n not_o only_o of_o some_o at_o least_o consequential_a hardship_n but_o of_o many_o black_a calumny_n many_o bitter_a reproach_n yea_o and_o some_o yet_o more_o inhuman_a machination_n of_o cruel_a man_n even_o here_o in_o england_n these_o four_o last_o year_n since_o 1669_o whether_o i_o say_v it_o may_v not_o by_o rational_a man_n be_v and_o be_v at_o least_o charitable_o believe_v that_o i_o will_v not_o have_v reject_v free_o all_o those_o tempt_a offer_n and_o in_o lieu_n of_o they_o voluntary_o choose_v to_o lie_v under_o all_o these_o suffering_n for_o any_o thing_n less_o than_o the_o keep_n a_o good_a conscience_n and_o the_o preserve_v the_o honour_n of_o christian_a catholicism_n untainted_a at_o least_o in_o some_o priest_n and_o religious_a man_n of_o the_o roman-catholick_n religion_n in_o these_o nation_n and_o the_o justify_v myself_o and_o those_o of_o my_o way_n the_o few_o irish_a constant_a remonstrant_n with_o such_o other_o who_o communicate_v with_o they_o loyal_a subject_n to_o our_o prince_n the_o king_n of_o england_n and_o the_o win_n also_o for_o the_o good_a of_o catholic_n in_o general_n upon_o his_o majesty_n council_n parliament_n and_o all_o good_a protestant_a people_n by_o our_o peaceable_a conversation_n and_o faithfulness_n amid_o all_o our_o suffering_n from_o every_o side_n notwithstanding_o any_o difference_n from_o the_o protestant_a church_n in_o some_o few_o article_n of_o religion_n whereas_o such_o other_o churchman_n of_o the_o roman_a communion_n as_o by_o their_o practice_n or_o principle_n have_v former_o show_v themselves_o and_o still_o appear_v to_o continue_v enemy_n to_o the_o supreme_a temporal_a government_n of_o these_o kingdom_n may_v in_o all_o reason_n expect_v the_o severe_a law_n to_o be_v edge_v against_o they_o by_o authority_n under_o which_o it_o will_v be_v sad_a to_o suffer_v as_o evil_a doer_n 6._o last_o whether_o it_o have_v not_o be_v very_o much_o for_o the_o advantage_n of_o roman-catholic_n in_o general_n and_o their_o religion_n in_o this_o monarchy_n that_o these_o last_o hundred_o year_n they_o have_v be_v indoctrinate_v only_o and_o whole_o guide_v as_o to_o their_o conscience_n by_o such_o roman-catholick_n priest_n and_o churchman_n as_o be_v of_o my_o principle_n in_o relation_n to_o the_o temporal_a power_n independence_n from_o rome_n and_o the_o indispensable_a obedience_n of_o subject_n in_o civil_a matter_n and_o both_o the_o injustice_n and_o invalidity_n or_o nullity_n of_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n pronounce_v against_o either_o prince_n or_o people_n or_o priest_n for_o maintain_v these_o not_o only_o rational_a but_o christian_a principle_n or_o assert_v any_o of_o all_o their_o necessary_a antecedent_n consequent_n or_o concomitant_n and_o now_o my_o lord_n father_n and_o gentleman_n to_o your_o impartial_a judgement_n on_o all_o and_o each_o of_o these_o query_n i_o do_v with_o due_a
in_o the_o title_n of_o it_o before_o the_o introduction_n and_o in_o the_o argument_n of_o the_o whole_a immediate_o follow_v that_o introduction_n yet_o when_o i_o come_v to_o the_o censure_n of_o louvain_n and_o to_o their_o four_o chief_a ground_n &c_n &c_n i_o find_v it_o expedient_a to_o give_v there_o at_o length_n what_o in_o substance_n be_v for_o the_o great_a part_n on_o several_a occasion_n and_o for_o the_o rest_n may_v on_o other_o the_o like_a occasion_n be_v unanswerable_o say_v against_o all_o and_o every_o of_o the_o say_v four_o ground_n of_o that_o nevertheless_o ungrounded_a louvain_n censure_n the_o rather_o that_o father_n caian_n neither_o in_o his_o remonstrantia_fw-la hibernorum_fw-la not_o in_o any_o other_o book_n have_v lift_v any_o of_o the_o say_a ground_n in_o specie_fw-la vi_o pursue_v this_o incidental_a matter_n i_o dispute_v against_o those_o louvain_n divine_v nay_o express_o also_o and_o purposely_o too_o against_o their_o leader_n the_o most_o eminent_a cardinal_n bellarmine_n baronius_n &c_n &c_n from_o sect._n lii_o pag._n 117._o to_o sect._n lxxviii_o pag._n 487._o first_o part_n of_o the_o first_o treatise_n that_o be_v throughout_o fourstore_v and_o odd_a sheet_n consequent_o which_o have_v do_v i_o return_v again_o to_o pure_a matter_n of_o fact_n according_a to_o the_o principal_a design_n of_o the_o say_v first_o treatise_n vii_o the_o search_a thorough_o into_o the_o bottom_n of_o their_o four_o ground_n take_v up_o threescore_o and_o ten_o sheet_n of_o that_o long_a but_o necessary_a insertion_n which_o no_o man_n will_v admire_v it_o shall_v who_o shall_v consider_v that_o by_o ruine_v that_o four_o ground_n only_o which_o be_v the_o pretend_a exemption_n of_o clergyman_n from_o the_o supreme_a temporal_a or_o secular_a and_o civil_a both_o directive_n and_o coercive_a power_n and_o consequent_o by_o prove_v the_o subjection_n even_o of_o all_o clerk_n i._n e._n of_o all_o ecclesiastic_n priest_n monk_n bishop_n archbishop_n primat_n patriarch_n and_o pope_n nay_o of_o all_o apostle_n evangelist_n and_o prophet_n &c_n &c_n to_o the_o supreme_a temporal_a magistrate_n to_o have_v be_v from_o the_o beginning_n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la divino_fw-la and_o never_o to_o have_v be_v after_o at_o any_o time_n alter_v or_o otherwise_o determine_v by_o any_o law_n of_o god_n or_o man_n i_o must_v without_o further_a trouble_n have_v both_o consequent_o and_o evident_o ruin_v all_o and_o every_o the_o pretence_n of_o the_o pope_n or_o church_n to_o any_o dominion_n jurisdiction_n or_o prefection_n whether_o direct_a or_o indirect_a over_o the_o temporal_n of_o the_o supreme_a lay-magistrate_n for_o natural_a reason_n show_v every_o man_n that_o subjection_n and_o exemption_n how_o much_o more_o that_o subjection_n and_o prefection_n jurisdiction_n dominion_n in_o order_n to_o the_o same_o temporal_a magistrate_n and_o temporal_a matter_n be_v incompatible_a in_o the_o same_o person_n or_o person_n whatsoever_o because_o they_o be_v such_o contrary_a attribute_n as_o be_v affirm_v of_o any_o thing_n infer_v a_o manifest_a contradiction_n v._o g._n to_o be_v subject_n and_o not_o to_o be_v subject_a at_o the_o same_o time_n and_o in_o the_o same_o respect_n to_o the_o selfsame_a temporal_a power_n and_o therefore_o by_o prove_v clear_o no_o exemption_n at_o all_o of_o any_o ecclesiastic_n whatsoever_o from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a either_o directive_n or_o coercive_a power_n nay_o by_o prove_v consequential_o and_o by_o no_o less_o clear_o and_o positive_o evince_v a_o total_a subjection_n of_o they_o to_o the_o say_a power_n i_o must_v likewise_o of_o necessity_n evince_n that_o they_o can_v pretend_v no_o kind_n of_o authority_n either_o direct_v or_o indirect_a in_o any_o case_n whatsoever_o to_o dethrone_v depose_v deprive_v suspend_v or_o lessen_v that_o same_o power_n unless_o peradventure_o they_o can_v make_v contradictory_n true_a viii_o my_o purpose_n to_o pull_v up_o thus_o by_o the_o very_a root_n and_o overturn_v the_o sandy_a foundation_n of_o that_o so_o vain_a pretend_a authority_n over_o the_o temporal_n of_o lay-prince_n and_o state_n be_v it_o that_o make_v i_o unravel_v the_o whole_a matter_n of_o ecclesiastical_a immunity_n and_o dispute_v it_o so_o large_o with_o all_o the_o exactness_n i_o can_v for_o i_o have_v therein_o proceed_v first_o in_o a_o negative_a way_n answer_v all_o and_o every_o material_a argument_n of_o bellarmine_n yea_o and_o of_o other_o also_o to_o a_o tittle_n as_o well_o those_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr clericis_fw-la as_o those_o other_o in_o his_o latter_a work_n against_o william_n barclay_n and_o consequent_o as_o well_o those_o so_o unconsequential_o derive_v by_o he_o either_o from_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n or_o law_n of_o nation_n or_o from_o the_o authority_n of_o ethnic_a historian_n or_o other_o author_n as_o those_o which_o he_o no_o less_o unground_o ground_n partly_o on_o the_o divine_a and_o positive_a law_n of_o god_n in_o holy_a scripture_n partly_o on_o the_o humane_a law_n of_o christian_a emperor_n in_o the_o code_n of_o theodosius_n or_o institution_n of_o justinian_n partly_o on_o the_o canon_n of_o either_o old_a or_o new_a ecclesiastical_a synod_n partly_o on_o the_o bare_a say_n of_o some_o ancient_a father_n or_o even_a pope_n in_o their_o own_o cause_n and_o partly_o too_o on_o the_o bare_a testimony_n or_o authority_n of_o some_o of_o our_o church-annalists_a or_o historian_n next_o i_o have_v proceed_v also_o on_o that_o subject_a in_o a_o positive_a or_o affirmative_a way_n by_o prove_v manifest_o and_o i_o think_v unanswerable_o too_o from_o all_o the_o same_o topic_n of_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o man_n of_o those_o of_o nature_n and_o those_o of_o nation_n of_o those_o of_o holy_a scripture_n in_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n and_o those_o not_o only_o of_o imperial_a constitution_n but_o ecclesiastical_a canon_n yea_o and_o mere_a papal_a canon_n too_o and_o from_o the_o judgement_n also_o of_o ancient_a father_n in_o their_o commentary_n and_o the_o testimony_n of_o other_o even_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n in_o their_o history_n and_o in_o the_o last_o place_n from_o and_o by_o the_o intrinsic_a topick_n of_o pure_a natural_a and_o obvious_a reason_n that_o never_o yet_o have_v any_o such_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n i._n e._n churchman_n from_o the_o supreme_a either_o directive_n or_o coercive_a power_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n have_v any_o be_v at_o all_o in_o rerum_fw-la natura_fw-la or_o any_o right_n to_o such_o be_v nay_o i_o have_v show_v also_o by_o manifest_a reason_n i_o think_v that_o neither_o at_o any_o time_n hereafter_o can_v prince_n give_v such_o exemption_n to_o clerk_n their_o subject_n without_o either_o manifest_a contradiction_n in_o adjecto_fw-la as_o logician_n speak_v or_o divest_v themselves_o whole_o and_o real_o of_o the_o name_n and_o authority_n of_o king_n or_o prince_n over_o they_o ix_o if_o any_o except_o against_o my_o derive_v of_o argument_n or_o allege_v of_o precedent_n from_o the_o fact_n of_o justinian_n the_o emperor_n as_o you_o find_v i_o do_v sect._n lxxiii_o pag._n 359._o or_o shall_v out_o of_o ignorance_n or_o spleen_n follow_v the_o example_n either_o of_o baronius_n spondanus_n and_o alemannus_n or_o of_o evagrius_n long_o before_o they_o so_o inconsiderate_o and_o false_o blast_v the_o glorious_a memory_n of_o that_o most_o christian_n most_o catholic_n most_o pious_a and_o virtuous_a prince_n as_o if_o he_o have_v be_v not_o only_o a_o violator_n of_o ecclesiastical_a immunity_n and_o a_o usurper_n of_o the_o sacerdotal_a office_n in_o many_o respect_n but_o a_o defender_n and_o believer_n of_o manifest_a heresy_n phantasiastarum_fw-la heresy_n haeresis_fw-la apthartodocitarum_fw-la sive_fw-la incorruptibilium_fw-la vel_fw-la phantasiastarum_fw-la viz._n of_o that_o which_o believe_v or_o teach_v our_o saviour_n flesh_n to_o have_v be_v always_o incorruptible_a and_o as_o if_o he_o have_v therefore_o be_v eternal_o damn_v to_o hell_n if_o any_o i_o say_v except_z or_o object_v thus_o against_o my_o allege_v the_o fact_n of_o justinian_n it_o will_v be_v satisfaction_n enough_o at_o present_a to_o let_v he_o know_v 1._o that_o evagrius_n who_o be_v the_o first_o author_n of_o this_o relation_n and_o invective_n against_o justinian_n write_v only_o by_o hear-say_n of_o that_o matter_n as_o who_o both_o writ_n and_o end_v his_o history_n long_o after_o justinian_n death_n viz._n in_o the_o twelve_o year_n of_o mauritius_n the_o emperor_n death_n emperor_n justinian_n die_v a_o chr._n 565._o the_o twelve_o year_n of_o mauritius_n be_v a_o chr._n 595._o which_o be_v thirty_o year_n after_o justinian_n death_n 2._o that_o the_o christian_a world_n both_o east_n and_o west_n in_o those_o very_a day_n of_o evagrius_n hold_v a_o far_a other_o opinion_n of_o justinian_n faith_n as_o may_v appear_v even_o out_o of_o pope_n agatho's_n letter_n to_o the_o emperor_n constantinus_n heraclius_n and_o tiberius_n who_o reign_v both_o successive_o after_o justinian_n and_o
as_o well_o with_o his_o grace_n as_o with_o his_o majesty_n and_o his_o majesty_n other_o great_a minister_n and_o for_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o catholic_n people_n of_o ireland_n that_o ease_n and_o connivance_n he_o can_v for_o what_o concern_v the_o exercise_n of_o their_o religion_n nor_o only_a that_o but_o as_o occasion_v offer_v by_o write_v and_o print_v and_o exhibit_v to_o his_o majesty_n lord_n lieutenant_n of_o ireland_n lord_n chancellor_n of_o england_n and_o other_o great_a minister_n of_o state_n several_a paper_n and_o book_n in_o print_n and_o otherwise_o of_o his_o own_o labour_n to_o move_v the_o performance_n of_o the_o peace_n of_o 48._o to_o the_o catholic_n of_o ireland_n and_o to_o mind_v his_o majesty_n of_o his_o justice_n to_o innocent_n and_o of_o his_o mercy_n to_o nocent_o but_o in_o the_o first_o place_n labour_v opportune_o and_o importune_o till_o he_o prevail_v at_o last_o to_o get_v all_o the_o great_a number_n of_o priest_n release_v which_o have_v be_v in_o several_a place_n and_o province_n of_o ireland_n in_o restraint_n about_o sixscore_a of_o they_o and_o a_o great_a many_o for_o several_a year_n before_o his_o majesty_n happy_a restauration_n wherein_o he_o be_v so_o impartial_a to_o all_o that_o although_o he_o be_v offer_v several_a time_n the_o release_n of_o such_o of_o those_o priest_n as_o he_o will_v pass_v his_o word_n for_o that_o they_o have_v be_v honest_a all_o along_o in_o the_o royal_a cause_n during_o the_o late_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o confederate_n of_o ireland_n yet_o he_o modest_o and_o patient_o decline_v that_o savour_n and_o let_v those_o his_o own_o special_a friend_n suffer_v with_o the_o rest_n until_o his_o majesty_n gracious_a condescension_n and_o my_o lord_n lieutenant_n goodness_n look_v indifferent_o upon_o they_o all_o with_o a_o eye_n of_o compassion_n and_o mercy_n upon_o hope_n give_v his_o majesty_n that_o they_o will_v all_o prove_v faithful_a subject_n evermore_o ii_o the_o year_n 60._o and_o 61._o be_v pass_v over_o till_o the_o winter_n come_v and_o the_o hope_n of_o roman_a catholic_n for_o what_o be_v move_v in_o their_o behalf_n in_o the_o house_n of_o lord_n at_o westminster_n concern_v the_o repeal_n of_o law_n against_o they_o at_o least_o and_o in_o the_o first_o place_n of_o those_o be_v call_v sanguinary_a be_v blast_v in_o the_o bud_n and_o the_o example_n of_o the_o late_a irish_a rebellion_n and_o breach_n of_o both_o peace_n in_o 46._o and_o 48._o by_o some_o or_o many_o of_o those_o of_o that_o religion_n and_o nation_n have_v beside_o other_o argument_n and_o intrigue_n be_v make_v use_v of_o against_o such_o as_o move_v for_o such_o repeal_n and_o the_o parliament_n of_o england_n be_v adjourn_v or_o prorogue_v and_o that_o of_o ireland_n then_o under_o the_o lord_n justice_n the_o chancellor_n the_o earl_n of_o orrery_n and_o montrath_n sit_v and_o a_o great_a plot_n among_o the_o irish_a catholic_n so_o false_o impose_v upon_o they_o ground_v on_o the_o no_o less_o false_a and_o vain_a pretence_n of_o a_o letter_n send_v by_o one_o priest_n to_o a_o other_o but_o contrive_v only_o by_o a_o perfidious_a fanatic_a impostor_n as_o appear_v soon_o after_o and_o that_o parliament_n of_o ireland_n however_o and_o lord_n justice_n upon_o this_o ground_n proceed_v with_o strange_a and_o new_a severity_n against_o both_o clergy_n and_o laity_n of_o that_o religion_n and_o some_o few_o of_o the_o catholic_n gentry_n and_o clergy_n consult_v together_o at_o dublin_n of_o a_o remedy_n sir_n richard_n barnewal_n richard_n beling_n esq_n thomas_n tyrrel_n esq_n oliver_n dese_fw-fr vicar_n general_a of_o meath_z father_n james_n fitz_n simons_n guardian_n of_o the_o franciscan_n at_o dublin_n and_o other_o it_o be_v resolve_v upon_o at_o last_o to_o remonstrate_v their_o condition_n to_o his_o majesty_n and_o petition_v his_o just_a and_o merciful_a regard_n of_o they_o that_o suffer_v so_o unjust_o which_o according_o the_o say_a mr._n beling_n draw_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o catholic_n clergy_n of_o ireland_n because_o the_o design_n be_v chief_o impose_v on_o they_o and_o upon_o their_o account_n the_o laity_n suffer_v but_o forasmuch_o as_o he_o consider_v that_o a_o bare_a remonstrance_n of_o their_o suffering_n or_o a_o bare_a petition_n of_o redress_n can_v not_o much_o avail_n a_o people_n that_o late_o have_v act_v as_o they_o have_v do_v in_o obedience_n to_o the_o nuncio_n both_o he_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o those_o gentleman_n with_o who_o he_o consult_v find_v it_o necessary_a by_o a_o solemn_a declaration_n of_o their_o principle_n in_o point_n of_o obedience_n in_o temporal_a thing_n to_o obstruct_v the_o grand_a objection_n of_o the_o inconsistency_n of_o catholic_n religion_n and_o of_o a_o toleration_n of_o it_o with_o the_o safety_n of_o a_o protestant_a prince_n or_o state_n which_o be_v the_o reason_n that_o one_o of_o those_o gentleman_n remember_v they_o have_v late_o see_v a_o print_a declaration_n of_o the_o catholic_n of_o england_n in_o their_o name_n exhibit_v in_o a_o long_a petition_n to_o the_o parliament_n at_o westminster_n a_o little_a before_o or_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o commotion_n of_o those_o kingdom_n about_o the_o year_n 1640._o and_o light_v on_o the_o book_n after_o diligent_a search_n wherein_o they_o have_v read_v it_o which_o be_v that_o of_o father_n cressy_n a_o english_a man_n and_o a_o benedictine_n monk_n sometime_o before_o protestant_a dean_n of_o leighlin_n in_o ireland_n entitle_v his_o exomologesis_fw-la or_o the_o motive_n of_o his_o conversion_n to_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o have_v bring_v it_o to_o mr._n beling_n he_o judge_v it_o very_o proper_a for_o the_o present_a matter_n and_o purpose_n of_o the_o catholic_n and_o clergy_n of_o ireland_n and_o much_o please_v to_o have_v such_o a_o precedent_n as_o that_o of_o man_n so_o learned_a and_o wary_a as_o the_o catholic_n of_o england_n for_o a_o business_n or_o declaration_n of_o that_o kind_n extract_v it_o word_n by_o word_n out_o of_o the_o say_a book_n pag_n 76._o 77._o and_o 78._o paris_n impression_n without_o any_o other_o change_v but_o of_o the_o application_n to_o the_o king_n instead_o of_o the_o parliament_n and_o of_o ireland_n instead_o of_o england_n and_o insert_v it_o in_o that_o remonstrance_n which_o he_o then_o draw_v for_o his_o own_o countryman_n which_o although_o it_o have_v be_v often_o already_o and_o in_o several_a piece_n of_o i_o publish_v in_o print_n yet_o forasmuch_o as_o it_o be_v that_o which_o occasion_v this_o general_a congregation_n at_o dublin_n of_o the_o say_v irish_a clergy_n in_o 66._o five_o year_n after_o it_o be_v in_o their_o name_n exhibit_v to_o his_o majesty_n at_o london_n and_o because_o peradventure_o many_o will_v consider_v the_o tenor_n of_o it_o when_o they_o come_v to_o read_v this_o present_a treatise_n and_o other_o treatise_n follow_v to_o free_v they_o of_o a_o trouble_n to_o look_v after_o those_o other_o piece_n wherein_o it_o be_v i_o have_v think_v fit_a to_o give_v they_o it_o here_o again_o to_o their_o hand_n to_o the_o king_n most_o excellent_a majesty_n the_o humble_a remonstrance_n acknowledgement_n protestation_n and_o petition_v of_o the_o roman_n catholic_n clergy_n of_o ireland_n your_o majesty_n faithful_a subject_n the_o roman_n catholic_n clergy_n of_o your_o majesty_n kingdom_n of_o ireland_n do_v most_o humble_o represent_v this_o their_o present_a state_n and_o deplorable_a condition_n that_o be_v entrust_v by_o the_o undispensable_a commission_n of_o the_o king_n of_o king_n with_o the_o cure_n of_o soul_n and_o the_o care_n of_o their_o flock_n in_o order_n to_o the_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n and_o teach_v the_o people_n that_o perfect_a obedience_n which_o for_o conscience_n sake_n they_o be_v bind_v to_o pay_v to_o your_o majesty_n command_n they_o be_v load_v with_o calumny_n and_o persecute_v with_o severity_n that_o be_v oblige_v by_o the_o allegiance_n they_o owe_v and_o aught_o to_o swear_v unto_o your_o majesty_n to_o reveal_v all_o conspiracy_n and_o practice_n against_o your_o person_n and_o royal_a authority_n that_o come_v to_o their_o knowledge_n they_o be_v themselves_o clamour_v against_o as_o conspirator_n plot_v the_o destruction_n of_o the_o english_a among_o they_o without_o any_o ground_n that_o may_v give_v the_o least_o colour_n to_o so_o foul_a a_o crime_n to_o pass_v for_o probable_a in_o the_o judgement_n of_o any_o indifferent_a person_n that_o their_o crime_n be_v as_o numerous_a and_o divers_a as_o be_v the_o invention_n of_o their_o adversary_n and_o because_o they_o can_v with_o freedom_n appear_v to_o justify_v their_o innocency_n all_o the_o fiction_n and_o allegation_n against_o they_o be_v receive_v as_o undoubted_a verity_n and_o which_o be_v yet_o more_o mischievous_a the_o laity_n upon_o who_o conscience_n the_o character_n of_o priesthood_n give_v they_o a_o influence_n suffer_v
what_o they_o have_v from_o the_o concession_n of_o prince_n and_o as_o long_o only_a as_o the_o prince_n or_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o law_n do_v authorise_v it_o but_o pontius_n do_v not_o say_v so_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v their_o say_n only_o for_o though_o he_o say_v that_o his_o own_o assertion_n for_o the_o affirmative_a be_v the_o common_a opinion_n of_o all_o catholic_n yet_o we_o know_v what_o schoolman_n now_o a_o day_n understand_v in_o their_o school_n by_o that_o manner_n of_o speech_n when_o they_o say_v any_o assertion_n be_v the_o common_a opinion_n of_o all_o catholic_n or_o all_o doctor_n and_o that_o they_o intend_v only_o to_o oppose_v common_a against_o that_o which_o be_v not_o common_a or_o not_o in_o the_o vogue_n although_o otherwise_o hold_v by_o many_o in_o the_o very_a school_n and_o even_o by_o classic_a author_n and_o by_o all_o side_n account_v very_o orthodox_n and_o by_o the_o most_o learned_a without_o contradiction_n account_v often_o the_o best_a &_o safe_a as_o for_o their_o epithet_n of_o one_o of_o the_o most_o eminent_a of_o this_o age_n give_v pontius_n i_o will_v allow_v it_o if_o they_o mean_v such_o eminency_n as_o canonist_n or_o casuist_n that_o common_o write_v in_o some_o thing_n the_o worst_a divinity_n among_o christian_n can_v challenge_v to_o themselves_o xxx_o second_o they_o will_v find_v their_o allegation_n false_a where_o they_o say_v the_o affirmative_a resolve_v be_v the_o opinion_n of_o two_o general_a council_n that_o of_o lateran_n and_o that_o of_o lion_n and_o i_o know_v they_o mean_v the_o four_o of_o lateran_n under_o innocent_a the_o three_o an._n 1215._o and_o the_o first_o of_o lion_n under_o innocent_a the_o four_o an._n 1245._o for_o albeit_o this_o objection_n be_v the_o allegation_n true_a press_v not_o at_o all_o in_o the_o wary_a term_n they_o make_v it_o here_o be_v they_o only_o pretend_v not_o the_o faith_n or_o catholic_n belief_n but_o the_o bare_a naked_a opinion_n only_o of_o these_o council_n and_o be_v further_o they_o pretend_v no_o decree_n of_o either_o of_o the_o say_a council_n or_o any_o other_o for_o as_o much_o as_o this_o opinion_n and_o therefore_o leave_v we_o still_o at_o liberty_n for_o any_o thing_n here_o object_v to_o hold_v always_o to_o our_o own_o contrary_a judgement_n the_o opinion_n only_o of_o never_o so_o numerous_a a_o council_n not_o prejudice_v the_o judgement_n of_o other_o when_o ground_v upon_o evidence_n of_o reason_n or_o scripture_n not_o consider_v of_o or_o canvas_v in_o such_o council_n yet_o how_o little_a soever_o this_o kind_n of_o objection_n deserve_v regard_n or_o answer_v or_o how_o weak_a soever_o to_o any_o real_a purpose_n be_v the_o allegation_n true_a i_o doubt_v not_o the_o objector_n themselves_o will_v be_v convince_v it_o be_v not_o only_o vain_a but_o false_a withal_o if_o lay_v aside_o passion_n and_o prejudice_n they_o consider_v well_o what_o they_o say_v here_o and_o compare_v it_o to_o what_o they_o may_v see_v record_v in_o matthew_n paris_n navelerus_n albertus_n stadensis_n and_o even_o in_o platina_n himself_o and_o what_o also_o they_o may_v further_o see_v clear_o demonstrate_v in_o widringtons_n learned_a work_n especial_o in_o his_o discussio_fw-la discussionis_fw-la decreti_fw-la concilij_fw-la magni_fw-la lateranensis_fw-la and_o in_o his_o last_o english_a rejoynder_n to_o fitz_n herbert_n etc._n etc._n concern_v what_o be_v do_v or_o not_o do_v by_o those_o two_o famous_a council_n how_o 60._o capitula_fw-la or_o chapter_n be_v rehearse_v in_o that_o council_n of_o lateran_n which_o to_o some_o do_v seem_v please_v or_o easy_a to_o other_o burdensome_a how_o nothing_o at_o all_o be_v plain_o conclude_v by_o those_o father_n of_o lateran_n their_o council_n have_v unexpected_o be_v force_v to_o break_v up_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o pope_n recess_n to_o appease_v some_o trouble_n of_o italy_n how_o these_o 70._o or_o 72._o chapter_n or_o canon_n common_o of_o late_a attribute_v to_o that_o lateran_n council_n be_v only_o innocents_n own_o draught_n though_o not_o so_o distinguish_v or_o not_o in_o this_o number_n and_o only_o at_o most_o propose_v by_o he_o but_o not_o assent_v to_o by_o they_o how_o those_o very_a canon_n themselves_o do_v not_o pretend_v themselves_o enact_v or_o assent_v to_o by_o the_o council_n but_o only_o some_o few_o of_o they_o and_o those_o in_o all_o but_o 14_o videlicet_fw-la the_o 2._o 4._o 5._o 18._o 42._o 44._o 45._o 46._o 47._o 48._o 51._o 66._o 69._o and_o 72._o or_o last_o of_o all_o concern_v the_o holy_a land_n among_o which_o it_o be_v manifest_v the_o three_o canon_n whereof_o our_o controversy_n be_v and_o which_o be_v now_o the_o three_o in_o order_n be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v how_o so_o little_a credit_n be_v ever_o till_o of_o late_a day_n give_v to_o those_o 70._o or_o 72._o capitula_fw-la as_o canon_n of_o that_o council_n or_o be_v to_o day_n by_o learned_a man_n that_o they_o be_v never_o hear_v of_o as_o such_o for_o full_a three_o hundred_o year_n after_o the_o time_n that_o council_n sit_v nor_o at_o all_o hear_v of_o until_o the_o year_n 1537._o wherein_o extract_v first_o by_o joannes_n cochleus_n out_o of_o some_o german_a library_n as_o be_v pretend_v and_o send_v to_o petrus_n crabb_n a_o franciscan_a they_o be_v annex_v afterward_o to_o the_o other_o council_n by_o the_o say_a franciscan_a petrus_n crabb_n in_o his_o edition_n of_o council_n an._n 1538._o as_o if_o they_o have_v be_v unquestionable_o the_o true_a act_n of_o that_o council_n of_o lateran_n or_o such_o as_o have_v be_v assent_v to_o by_o all_o the_o father_n or_o by_o such_o a_o number_n of_o the_o father_n as_o have_v make_v they_o conciliary_a act_n of_o that_o council_n how_o consequent_o be_v there_o precede_v but_o three_o year_n before_o a_o edition_n of_o the_o former_a and_o late_a council_n by_o jacobus_n merlin_n without_o any_o such_o 60._o 70._o or_o 72._o or_o any_o number_n whatsoever_o of_o chapter_n or_o canon_n of_o that_o four_o of_o lateran_n or_o any_o mention_n at_o all_o of_o they_o or_o of_o any_o other_o act_n or_o canon_n of_o that_o council_n and_o be_v the_o historian_n of_o those_o time_n that_o be_v such_o historian_n as_o write_v immediate_o or_o next_o after_o that_o council_n nay_o and_o such_o other_o too_o as_o write_v long_o after_o it_o express_o tell_v we_o that_o as_o i_o have_v before_o say_v that_o council_n of_o lateran_n conclude_v nothing_o plain_o therefore_o these_o 70._o or_o 72._o lateran_n canon_n nor_o by_o consequence_n that_o three_o among_o they_o whereof_o our_o present_a controversy_n be_v deserve_v not_o so_o much_o as_o and_o as_o i_o mean_v canon_n make_v conciliar_o by_o that_o council_n or_o assent_v to_o by_o the_o father_n of_o it_o to_o be_v put_v in_o equal_a balance_n with_o those_o other_o 70._o or_o 72._o suppositicious_a one_o of_o nice_a bring_v to_o we_o of_o late_a from_o arabia_n and_o collect_v by_o alphonsus_n pisanus_n how_o it_o be_v conceive_v more_o probable_o according_a truth_n that_o as_o gregory_n the_o ix_o who_o be_v nephew_n to_o the_o say_v innocent_a the_o three_o put_v they_o in_o his_o uncle_n name_n into_o the_o decretal_n and_o digest_v they_o into_o that_o number_n and_o method_n wherein_o they_o be_v in_o the_o say_a decretal_n though_o disperse_v in_o several_a book_n and_o under_o several_a title_n of_o the_o same_o decretal_n and_o prefix_v to_o the_o several_a chapter_n or_o head_n of_o they_o innocentius_n tertius_fw-la in_o concilio_n generali_fw-la upon_o this_o ground_n that_o they_o be_v propose_v by_o the_o say_v innocentius_n tertius_fw-la though_o not_o assent_v to_o in_o that_o council_n except_o only_o the_o two_o first_o which_o be_v and_o be_v of_o faith_n and_o therefore_o need_v no_o more_o but_o the_o tacit_n approbation_n of_o the_o father_n or_o their_o not_o oppose_v they_o public_o when_o they_o be_v read_v so_o the_o above_o perhaps_o well_o meaning_n german_n find_v after_o so_o many_o hundred_o year_n a_o old_a copy_n of_o they_o as_o prepare_v for_o that_o council_n or_o as_o digest_v after_o or_o as_o divide_v by_o the_o say_v gregory_n the_o ix_o or_o by_o other_o for_o he_o without_o further_a examination_n or_o consideration_n of_o what_o other_o historian_n or_o antiquary_n that_o write_v long_o before_o he_o record_v to_o posterity_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o those_o matter_n publish_v they_o as_o genuine_a act_n of_o that_o council_n which_o yet_o in_o truth_n be_v but_o the_o act_n of_o innocent_a only_a authorize_v so_o by_o his_o nephew_n gregory_n the_o ix_o in_o his_o decretal_n how_o moreover_o it_o appear_v as_o clear_a as_o the_o sun_n out_o of_o those_o very_a canon_n or_o manner_n of_o speech_n in_o they_o and_o express_v word_n that_o whither_o that_o lateran_n council_n assent_v or_o not_o assent_v to_o those_o
of_o purpose_n only_o that_o they_o may_v with_o the_o more_o colour_n of_o some_o religious_a and_o conscientious_a pretext_n both_o refuse_v it_o themselves_o and_o dissuade_v other_o from_o it_o and_o be_v the_o man_n who_o example_n have_v most_o influence_n of_o any_o other_o on_o all_o especial_o on_o the_o nuntiatist_n throughout_o ireland_n of_o what_o call_v soever_o the_o procuratour_n go_v so_o far_o to_o meet_v they_o as_o themselves_o desire_v and_o meet_v they_o with_o the_o more_o willingness_n so_o far_o off_o from_o dublin_n to_o the_o end_n they_o may_v not_o allege_v the_o place_n to_o be_v such_o as_o allow_v they_o less_o freedom_n to_o speak_v plain_o their_o mind_n ground_n or_o reason_n against_o that_o form_n which_o they_o decry_v so_o much_o for_o he_o hope_v they_o will_v enter_v into_o some_o dispute_n with_o he_o of_o it_o in_o point_n of_o religion_n faith_n of_o conscience_n as_o to_o the_o lawfulness_n or_o unlawfulness_n of_o it_o in_o such_o respect_n be_v many_o of_o they_o and_o their_o party_n pretend_v among_o the_o illiterate_a or_o ignorant_a they_o be_v averse_a to_o it_o only_o on_o these_o account_n but_o he_o find_v they_o otherwise_o resolve_v then_o to_o examine_v it_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o religion_n or_o conscience_n for_o although_o he_o stay_v with_o they_o three_o day_n and_o night_n and_o give_v they_o provocation_n enough_o in_o public_a to_o speak_v against_o it_o if_o any_o thing_n they_o have_v to_o say_v allege_v to_o they_o for_o it_o reason_n both_o divine_a and_o humane_a both_o weighty_a and_o manifold_a nay_o and_o tell_v they_o at_o last_o that_o for_o his_o own_o part_n he_o be_v real_o persuade_v in_o his_o conscience_n the_o contrary_a doctrine_n be_v not_o only_o erroneous_a but_o in_o itself_o heretical_a albeit_o he_o will_v not_o therefore_o decline_v communion_n with_o any_o yet_o all_o can_v not_o work_v as_o much_o as_o one_o argument_n from_o they_o either_o from_o scripture_n tradition_n father_n canon_n or_o natural_a reason_n nothing_o at_o all_o but_o mere_a silence_n in_o answer_n to_o all_o and_o beside_o that_o nothing_o else_o but_o the_o objection_n of_o some_o two_o or_o three_o word_n as_o not_o be_v reverential_a enough_o as_o to_o the_o matter_n only_o of_o word_v and_o the_o expectation_n of_o a_o censure_n against_o it_o from_o rome_n the_o procuratour_n answer_v they_o to_o the_o first_o that_o the_o catholic_n of_o england_n who_o draw_v that_o form_n as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o father_n cressy_n exomologesis_n be_v cautious_a without_o exception_n to_o word_n their_o sense_n so_o as_o they_o can_v not_o be_v quarreld_v against_o by_o any_o on_o that_o account_n that_o there_o be_v more_o danger_n in_o their_o excess_n of_o reverence_n and_o observance_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o of_o his_o power_n then_o in_o their_o detect_v even_o by_o expression_n of_o word_n that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o word_n but_o the_o sense_n will_v be_v quarreld_v against_o at_o rome_n that_o likewise_o it_o be_v not_o this_o or_o that_o individual_a or_o specifical_a word_n but_o the_o true_a and_o full_a sense_n in_o whatever_o word_n be_v expect_v from_o they_o by_o the_o king_n or_o state_n if_o they_o like_v not_o those_o word_n which_o the_o best_a master_n of_o the_o english_a tongue_n the_o catholic_n of_o england_n and_o after_o they_o those_o of_o their_o own_o irish_a clergy_n and_o the_o nobility_n and_o gentry_n also_o of_o their_o nation_n at_o london_n have_v already_o make_v use_n of_o and_o therefore_o since_o they_o profess_v they_o bogle_v not_o at_o the_o sense_n they_o will_v do_v well_o to_o draw_v it_o full_o in_o their_o own_o word_n but_o such_o as_o express_v that_o clear_o and_o without_o equivocation_n or_o other_o kind_n of_o reservation_n which_o if_o they_o do_v he_o will_v undertake_v my_o lord_n lieutenant_n will_v receive_v it_o gracious_o and_o represent_v it_o to_o his_o majesty_n as_o the_o same_o in_o effect_n with_o that_o other_o have_v give_v before_o they_o in_o other_o word_n have_v nothing_o to_o reply_v to_o these_o answer_n the_o provincial_n take_v pen_n in_o hand_n present_o and_o desire_v the_o procuratour_n himself_o to_o assist_v and_o help_v he_o with_o other_o word_n instead_o of_o the_o word_n pope_n disclaim_v renounce_v etc._n etc._n which_o the_o procuratour_n do_v father_n thomas_n makiernan_n who_o learning_n be_v that_o of_o the_o papal_a canon_n as_o have_v be_v breed_v in_o spain_n a_o canonist_n intercede_v and_o confess_v at_o last_o that_o for_o his_o own_o part_n he_o can_v not_o resolve_v yet_o to_o come_v home_o to_o the_o sense_n and_o the_o rest_n desire_v some_o respite_n until_o next_o easter_n promise_v that_o if_o by_o that_o time_n no_o censure_n come_v from_o rome_n against_o the_o form_n of_o 61._o they_o will_v subscribe_v it_o this_o father_n peter_n gennor_n say_v positive_o to_o the_o procuratour_n and_o none_o oppose_v it_o but_o father_n makiernan_n somewhat_o doubtful_o however_o they_o all_o entreat_v the_o procuratour_n that_o he_o will_v in_o the_o best_a manner_n he_o can_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n excuse_v they_o to_o his_o grace_n the_o lord_n lieutenant_n now_o the_o reason_n why_o they_o desire_v this_o respite_n be_v that_o themselves_o as_o the_o chief_a contriver_n have_v employ_v last_o summer_n both_o from_o themselves_o and_o from_o the_o bishop_n of_o meath_z antony_z mageoghegan_n and_o some_o vicar_n general_n father_n john_n brady_n a_o franciscan_a over_o sea_n of_o purpose_n to_o solicit_v a_o censure_n both_o from_o the_o university_n of_o l●vain_n and_o from_o rome_n too_o by_o the_o intervention_n of_o those_o of_o their_o party_n there_o especial_o by_o the_o credit_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o internuntio_fw-la of_o brussels_n and_o they_o expect_v both_o infallible_o before_o fast_a nor_o be_v they_o frustrate_v in_o their_o expectation_n in_o part_n i_o mean_v as_o to_o a_o censure_n from_o louvain_n though_o none_o to_o this_o day_n from_o his_o holiness_n if_o they_o will_v not_o unjust_o call_v the_o private_a letter_n of_o the_o two_o bruxel_n internuntius_n the_o vechiis_fw-la and_o rospigliosi_fw-la or_o those_o other_o of_o cardinal_n francis_n barberin_n a_o censure_n from_o rome_n which_o every_o man_n see_v they_o can_v but_o very_o unjust_o term_v a_o roman_a censure_n or_o a_o censure_n of_o his_o holiness_n or_o by_o his_o authority_n so_o do_v or_o notify_v that_o any_o one_o at_o all_o be_v bind_v to_o take_v notice_n thereof_o for_o they_o want_v all_o both_o the_o formality_n and_o essential_o of_o a_o censure_n from_o his_o holiness_n as_o from_o his_o holiness_n in_o the_o quality_n of_o pope_n determine_v any_o matter_n as_o they_o want_v likewise_o the_o essential_o of_o a_o sufficient_a publication_n if_o nothing_o else_o be_v want_v beside_o it_o be_v a_o maxim_n with_o canonist_n that_o in_o praejudicium_fw-la tertii_fw-la credit_n be_v not_o to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o letter_n of_o even_a cardinal_n for_o what_o relate_v to_o the_o mind_n will_n or_o judgement_n of_o his_o holiness_n if_o they_o produce_v not_o authentical_o their_o commission_n and_o last_o it_o be_v manifest_a out_o of_o those_o very_a word_n which_o cardinal_n francis_n barberin_n relate_v in_o his_o second_o letter_n which_o you_o shall_v have_v in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o this_o treatise_n as_o the_o command_n of_o his_o holiness_n to_o he_o that_o his_o holiness_n never_o censure_v nor_o mean_v to_o censure_v any_o point_n or_o passage_n of_o that_o remonstrance_n of_o 61._o but_o intend_v only_o the_o cardinal_n shall_v warn_v the_o clergy_n of_o ireland_n not_o to_o confound_v the_o civil_a obedience_n due_a to_o the_o king_n with_o that_o spiritual_a observance_n be_v due_a to_o the_o see_v apostolic_a and_o who_o see_v not_o that_o to_o distinguish_v both_o or_o the_o one_o from_o the_o other_o be_v the_o main_a drift_n of_o &_o well_o observe_v in_o that_o remonstrance_n xl._n but_o for_o asmuch_o as_o these_o franciscan_a father_n use_v these_o delay_n of_o purpose_n to_o have_v the_o more_o colour_n to_o excuse_v themselves_o from_o sign_v when_o they_o have_v the_o return_n they_o expect_v from_o their_o say_a agent_n by_o easter_n i_o think_v fit_a to_o give_v here_o a_o copy_n of_o that_o instrument_n which_o they_o or_o the_o chief_a of_o they_o and_o other_o with_o they_o give_v he_o under_o their_o hand_n when_o they_o send_v he_o away_o to_o work_v all_o the_o intrigue_n he_o can_v against_o both_o that_o remonstrance_n and_o subscriber_n of_o it_o but_o above_o all_o against_o the_o procuratour_n it_o be_v as_o follow_v translate_v out_o of_o the_o latin_n the_o instrument_n send_v by_o father_n john_n brady_n and_o sign_v by_o antony_n ma_fw-fr geoghegan_n bishop_n of_o meath_z and_o by_o some_o other_o few_o man_n of_o the_o franciscan_n chiefl_o as_o francis_n ferral_n
our_o superior_n that_o they_o may_v give_v it_o likewise_o on_o our_o behalf_n to_o the_o most_o holy_a father_n and_o lord_n preside_v over_o the_o universal_a church_n or_o as_o to_o the_o motive_n &_o scope_n or_o the_o necessity_n or_o utility_n of_o any_o such_o protestation_n so_o make_v or_o as_o to_o the_o sense_n too_o of_o the_o word_n if_o they_o seem_v to_o other_o in_o any_o part_n or_o clause_n of_o that_o our_o form_n to_o be_v of_o dubious_a or_o ambiguous_a meaning_n although_o to_o we_o they_o seem_v not_o such_o and_o the_o reason_n moreover_o and_o theological_a ground_n which_o evict_v all_o and_o every_o the_o several_a acknowledgement_n assertion_n and_o promise_n of_o the_o say_a form_n to_o be_v consonant_n to_o the_o orthodox_n faith_n and_o even_o to_o that_o very_a justice_n which_o natural_a reason_n itself_o prescribe_v the_o subscriber_n will_v give_v at_o large_a to_o your_o paternity_n and_o minister_n general_n or_o even_o to_o the_o most_o bless_a pope_n himself_o alexander_z the_o vii_o if_o your_o paternity_n do_v but_o once_o declare_v plain_o that_o your_o intention_n be_v in_o those_o your_o often_o mention_v citatory_n letter_n to_o father_n charon_n to_o summon_v or_o admonish_v those_o of_o your_o order_n that_o subscribe_v the_o say_a form_n and_o that_o you_o signify_v moreover_o your_o mind_n to_o be_v unaltered_a yet_o either_o by_o father_n charon_n answer_n or_o by_o this_o present_a letter_n but_o whatever_o you_o intend_v first_o or_o determine_v hereafter_o in_o this_o particular_a i_o shall_v not_o cease_v to_o wish_v the_o descent_n of_o that_o holy_a spirit_n on_o you_o that_o very_a spirit_n of_o god_n which_o teach_v all_o truth_n and_o inspire_v all_o piety_n and_o religion_n that_o be_v right_a beg_v on_o bend_a knee_n the_o blessing_n of_o my_o most_o reverend_a father_n and_o kiss_v his_o hand_n dublin_n the_o last_o before_o the_o calends_o of_o jul._n mdclxiii_o your_o most_o reverend_a paternitie_n most_o humble_a son_n and_o servant_n fr._n peter_n walsh_n l._n these_o answer_n be_v at_o least_o so_o probable_a as_o whole_o ground_v on_o the_o very_a canon_n beside_o the_o natural_a equity_n of_o the_o allegation_n and_o be_v withal_o so_o positive_a wrought_v so_o much_o on_o the_o say_v most_o reverend_a commissary_n general_n that_o he_o not_o only_o abstain_v from_o any_o further_a prosecution_n by_o himself_o against_o the_o subscriber_n but_o whole_o remit_v the_o matter_n from_o himself_o to_o the_o minister_n general_n of_o the_o whole_a order_n michael_n angelus_n sambuca_fw-la from_o who_o notwithstanding_o as_o neither_o from_o his_o successor_n the_o other_o minister_n general_n of_o the_o whole_a order_n who_o now_o be_v the_o most_o reverend_a ildephonsus_fw-la salizane_n a_o spaniard_n there_o come_v no_o return_n nothing_o at_o all_o against_o the_o say_a subscriber_n or_o any_o of_o they_o nor_o even_o to_o this_o day_n nor_o can_v i_o understand_v of_o as_o much_o as_o their_o dislike_n of_o the_o protestation_n albeit_o they_o know_v very_o well_o of_o the_o censure_n of_o louvain_n and_o of_o the_o letter_n of_o cardinal_n barbarin_n and_o the_o internuncius_fw-la at_o brussels_n yet_o i_o confess_v i_o have_v late_o understand_v of_o private_a instruction_n give_v by_o the_o present_a minister_n general_n ildephonsus_fw-la to_o his_o commissary_n delegated_a hither_o last_o year_n to_o bold_a the_o provincial_a chapter_n of_o the_o franciscan_n that_o he_o shall_v by_o no_o mean_n concur_v to_o the_o election_n of_o father_n charon_n or_o father_n walsh_n to_o the_o provincialship_n but_o for_o as_o much_o as_o the_o say_v delegate_n when_o here_o do_v own_o no_o such_o instruction_n but_o express_o deny_v he_o have_v any_o such_o or_o any_o at_o all_o against_o either_o of_o those_o two_o or_o against_o the_o remonstrant_n in_o general_a or_o remonstrance_n in_o itself_o and_o because_o he_o do_v both_o see_v and_o approve_v the_o remonstrant_n general_o institute_v local_a superior_n by_o the_o new_a provincial_a superior_a and_o express_o refuse_v to_o confirm_v some_o of_o those_o be_v elect_v against_o who_o one_o of_o the_o grand_a exception_n be_v that_o they_o will_v not_o sign_n &_o moreover_o that_o himself_o in_o full_a chapter_n public_o albeit_o not_o resolve_v to_o stay_v in_o the_o kingdom_n but_o return_v back_o to_o spain_n to_o give_v the_o say_v ildephonsus_fw-la a_o account_n of_o his_o proceed_n offer_v nevertheless_o for_o their_o sake_n &_o for_o their_o good_a to_o sign_n &_o subscribe_v his_o own_o to_o the_o remonstrance_n if_o the_o capitular_o will_v all_o do_v the_o like_a therefore_o i_o will_v not_o charge_v the_o minister_n general_n with_o any_o such_o oversight_n and_o that_o the_o reader_n may_v not_o take_v my_o bare_a word_n for_o what_o i_o have_v say_v of_o the_o belgic_a commissary_n general_n cease_v to_o prosecute_v the_o above_o citation_n &_o of_o his_o remit_v the_o controversy_n to_o the_o minister_n general_n of_o the_o whole_a order_n i_o give_v here_o the_o say_a commissary_n own_o return_n of_o the_o 6_o of_o april_n 1664._o from_o louvain_n to_o a_o a_o second_o letter_n of_o the_o procurator_n wherein_o his_o resolution_n and_o say_a remission_n be_v notify_v as_o likewise_o why_o he_o do_v not_o before_o say_v any_o thing_n to_o the_o long_a letter_n of_o the_o procurator_n admodum_fw-la venerando_fw-la patri_fw-la p._n fratti_fw-la petro_n valesio_n ordinis_fw-la fratrum_fw-la minorum_fw-la provinciae_fw-la nostrae_fw-la hiberniae_fw-la sacrae_fw-la theologiae_n lectori_fw-la etc._n etc._n adm._n venerande_fw-fr pater_fw-la v●●●as_fw-la idibus_fw-la februarii_fw-la datas_fw-la à_fw-la paucis_fw-la diebus_fw-la recepi_fw-la non_fw-la recordor_fw-la i_o ullam_fw-la commissionem_fw-la p._n br●dino_n vobiscum_fw-la agendi_fw-la dedisse_fw-la praecedentes_fw-la quarum_fw-la faciunt_fw-la mentionem_fw-la non_fw-la mihi_fw-la visae_fw-la sunt_fw-la responsum_fw-la exigere_fw-la cum_fw-la potius_fw-la responsoriae_fw-la essent_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la declinatoriae_fw-la á_z mandatis_fw-la superiorum_fw-la quorum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la cum_fw-la subditis_fw-la disputare_fw-la hinc_fw-la i_o satisfecisse_fw-la puto_fw-la illas_fw-la reverendissimo_fw-la patri_fw-la generali_fw-la meo_fw-la &_o vestro_fw-la superiori_fw-la transmittend●_n cujus_fw-la mandatis_fw-la ut_fw-la commissarius_fw-la ejus_fw-la &_o subditus_fw-la me_fw-it accomoda_fw-it sine_fw-la ulla_fw-la necessitudine_fw-la vel_fw-la dependentia_fw-la quam_fw-la pudendam_fw-la scribitis_fw-la à_fw-la secretario_fw-la ejus_fw-la heslenano_n neque_fw-la ut_fw-la successor_n marchantii_fw-la mortalem_fw-la ullum_fw-la vereor_fw-la absit_fw-la ut_fw-la prae_fw-la deo_fw-la sed_fw-la upto_o ut_fw-la mecum_fw-la omnes_fw-la deo_fw-la quae_fw-la dei_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o ea_fw-la quae_fw-la caesaris_fw-la sunt_fw-la caesari_n reddant_fw-la puro_fw-la ab_fw-la omni_fw-la terrena_fw-la labe_fw-la oculo_fw-la sanctam_fw-la dei_fw-la voluntatem_fw-la inquirant_fw-la &_o impleant_fw-la mansurus_fw-la reverentiae_fw-la vestrae_fw-la addictissimus_fw-la frater_fw-la &_o servus_n fr._n jacobus_n de_fw-fr riddere_fw-la commissarius_fw-la generalis_fw-la lovanii_n 6._o aprilis_fw-la 1664._o li._n yet_o i_o will_v not_o omit_v to_o tell_v how_o notwithstanding_o his_o remission_n so_o notify_v here_o and_o his_o cease_v both_o then_o and_o ever_o since_o to_o prosecute_v his_o above_o citation_n he_o think_v fit_a next_o september_n follow_v to_o get_v a_o act_n pass_v in_o a_o national_a congregation_n of_o all_o the_o provincial_n subject_n to_o he_o hold_v at_o antwerp_n where_o he_o formal_o reserve_v a_o power_n to_o the_o general_n superior_n to_o proceed_v against_o the_o subscriber_n in_o due_a time_n or_o when_o it_o shall_v be_v convenient_a as_o withal_o both_o he_o and_o other_o of_o that_o congregation_n declare_v by_o the_o same_o act_n the_o subscriber_n to_o be_v in_o so_o much_o no_o genuine_a son_n or_o brethren_n but_o schismatical_a against_o the_o holy_a see_n albeit_o neither_o this_o act_n nor_o any_o as_o much_o as_o inkling_n of_o it_o for_o they_o think_v fit_a to_o keep_v it_o very_o secret_a come_v to_o the_o subscriber_n hear_v until_o jan._n 64._o according_a to_o the_o english_a computation_n or_o 65._o according_a to_o the_o roman_a when_o father_n gearnon_n send_v over_o to_o the_o say_a commissary_n by_o mere_a chance_n and_o great_a favour_n and_o secrecy_n get_v the_o copy_n of_o it_o from_o other_o altogether_o unknown_a to_o the_o commissary_n himself_o for_o he_o will_v be_v sorry_a any_o of_o the_o subscriber_n shall_v hear_v on_o it_o till_o he_o find_v his_o own_o time_n the_o copy_n be_v word_n by_o word_n thus_o infra_fw-la scripti_fw-la in_o congregatione_fw-la nostra_fw-la nationali_fw-la habita_fw-la die_v 18._o septembris_fw-la anno_fw-la 1663._o anditis_fw-la magno_fw-la animorum_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la maerere_fw-la quibusdam_fw-la attentatis_fw-la schijmaticis_fw-la aliquorum_fw-la patrum_fw-la hibernorum_fw-la adversus_fw-la sanctae_fw-la sedis_fw-la apostolicae_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la &_o dignitatem_fw-la signanter_n certa_fw-la protestationis_fw-la sive_fw-la juramenti_fw-la formula_fw-la regi_fw-la magnae_fw-la britanniae_fw-la ab_fw-la risdem_fw-la nuper_fw-la praesentata_fw-la hujusce_fw-la scripti_fw-la tenore_fw-la ex_fw-la regulae_fw-la nostrae_fw-la
praescripto_fw-la protestamur_fw-la &_o profitemur_fw-la nos_fw-la esse_fw-la humillimos_fw-la &_o obedientissimos_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la sanctae_fw-la sedis_fw-la filios_fw-la &_o subditos_fw-la paratosque_fw-la pro_fw-la illius_fw-la &_o superiorum_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la authoritate_fw-la animas_fw-la penere_fw-la adeeque_fw-la nos_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la schismatica_fw-la attentata_fw-la detestari_fw-la nec_fw-la eorum_fw-la authores_fw-la vel_fw-la fautores_fw-la pro_fw-la genuinis_fw-la fratribus_fw-la agnoscere_fw-la quia_fw-la tamen_fw-la ex_fw-la authentico_fw-la testimonio_fw-la reverendorum_fw-la patrum_fw-la provincialis_fw-la &_o exprovincialis_n angliae_fw-la verbis_fw-la &_o scriptis_fw-la nobis_fw-la exhibito_fw-la constat_fw-la ulteriores_fw-la processus_fw-la contra_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la refractarios_fw-la non_fw-la solummodo_fw-la in_o nullum_fw-la b●num_fw-la cessuros_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o grave_n praejudi●ium_fw-la persecutionem_fw-la et_fw-la perniciem_fw-la catholicorum_n in_fw-la anglia_fw-it et_fw-la hibernia_n hinc_fw-la censemus_fw-la h●c_fw-la tempore_fw-la supersedendum_fw-la ulteriori_fw-la executioni_fw-la salva_fw-la semper_fw-la superiorum_fw-la authoritate_fw-la quorum_fw-la mandatis_fw-la et_fw-la ordinationibus_fw-la cum_fw-la omni_fw-la humilitate_fw-la et_fw-la animorum_fw-la promptitudine_fw-la nos_fw-la submittimus_fw-la datum_n antuerpiae_n etc._n etc._n subsignatum_fw-la erat_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la qu●d_a test●r_n frater_fw-la jac●bus_n de_fw-la riddere_fw-la commissarius_fw-la generalis_fw-la german●_n belgious_a extractum_fw-la lovanii_n 4._o januarii_n 1665._o per_fw-la i_o fratrem_fw-la b●naventuram_fw-la docharty_n now_o to_o be_v more_o particular_o and_o full_o inform_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o instrument_n or_o copy_n as_o soon_o as_o i_o receive_v it_o i_o accoa_v the_o then_o provincial_a of_o the_o franciscan_n in_o england_n father_n n._n l._n croix_n who_o i_o know_v to_o have_v be_v a_o member_n of_o that_o congregation_n and_o he_o tell_v all_o be_v true_a but_o withal_o that_o himself_o refuse_v to_o sign_n it_o behold_v here_o another_o considerable_a effect_n of_o that_o louvain_n censure_n for_o albeit_o endeavour_n have_v be_v use_v to_o get_v the_o university_n of_o salamanca_n in_o spain_n to_o conncurr_v in_o the_o like_a or_o some_o other_o as_o bad_a censure_n against_o the_o remonstrance_n and_o great_a expectation_n thereof_o as_o appear_v out_o of_o the_o dominican_n provincial_a father_n john_n hart_n letter_n yet_o nothing_o can_v be_v do_v there_o nor_o in_o any_o other_o university_n in_o the_o world_n against_o it_o only_o that_o of_o louvain_n except_v to_o which_o because_o some_o antiremonstrants_a look_n so_o much_o on_o this_o university_n censure_n to_o bear_v down_o the_o scale_n the_o subscriber_n oppose_v sorbon_n and_o navarre_n and_o all_o the_o eight_o university_n of_o france_n and_o all_o those_o too_o in_o the_o state_n of_o venice_n beside_o the_o practice_n and_o doctrine_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n out_o of_o the_o temporal_a patrimony_n of_o the_o pope_n a_o small_a district_n of_o italy_n to_o say_v nothing_o of_o so_o vast_a a_o cloud_n of_o other_o yet_o more_o convince_a testimony_n and_o authority_n of_o scripture_n father_n doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o whole_a primitive_a church_n and_o that_o also_o of_o all_o succeed_a age_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n until_o gregory_n the_o vii_o who_o live_v not_o until_o the_o eleven_o age_n of_o christianity_n nor_o to_o say_v any_o thing_n too_o of_o so_o many_o irrefragable_a argument_n of_o reason_n both_o natural_a and_o theological_a which_o may_v be_v see_v partly_o in_o my_o more_o ample_a account_n and_o for_o the_o rest_n very_o learned_o at_o large_a in_o father_n charon_n remonstrantiá_fw-la hibernorum_fw-la lii_o but_o the_o last_o and_o worst_a effect_n of_o all_o be_v a_o kind_n of_o specious_a pretence_n for_o those_o more_o unlearned_a and_o more_o ignorant_a of_o the_o irish_a clergy_n in_o all_o place_n both_o at_o home_n in_o ireland_n and_o abroad_o in_o other_o country_n and_o not_o for_o such_o only_a but_o for_o the_o more_o know_v of_o the_o dissenter_n or_o opposer_n to_o heighten_v their_o animosity_n and_o strengthen_v their_o opposition_n and_o even_o to_o except_v among_o the_o vulgar_a thence_o forward_o against_o the_o remonstrance_n not_o as_o unexpedient_a only_o or_o unnecessary_a but_o as_o sacrilegious_a schismatical_a and_o heretical_a be_v it_o be_v in_o effect_n declare_v such_o by_o the_o louvain_n divine_v which_o be_v the_o reason_n i_o think_v it_o not_o amiss_o to_o give_v here_o what_o i_o know_v or_o what_o i_o have_v hear_v from_o those_o very_a eye-witness_n of_o the_o chief_a ground_n those_o louvain_n doctor_n build_v upon_o to_o issue_v a_o censure_n of_o so_o much_o temerity_n falsity_n and_o folly_n father_n brian_n barry_n of_o st._n francis_n order_n who_o be_v then_o at_o louvain_n a_o learned_a understand_a gentleman_n and_o father_n john_n brady_n the_o chief_a agent_n for_o and_o solicitor_n of_o this_o censure_n be_v they_o that_o give_v i_o this_o account_n for_o i_o have_v say_v before_o the_o first_o and_o long_a censure_n of_o that_o university_n wherein_o the_o proposition_n apart_o and_o censure_n of_o each_o and_o ground_n of_o every_o censure_n be_v distinct_o set_v never_o come_v to_o public_a view_n nor_o can_v be_v see_v by_o any_o of_o the_o subscriber_n to_o this_o day_n therefore_o what_o i_o give_v here_o of_o that_o matter_n must_v be_v on_o the_o credit_n of_o those_o two_o gentleman_n and_o it_o be_v like_a none_o will_v doubt_v at_o least_o the_o agent_n relation_n that_o procure_v it_o especial_o when_o they_o know_v he_o be_v a_o man_n that_o want_v neither_o understanding_n nor_o memory_n as_o i_o assure_v they_o he_o be_v first_o ground_n that_o the_o remonstrance_n bereave_v the_o pope_n and_o see_v apostolic_a of_o that_o humane_a right_n or_o that_o even_o temporal_a civil_a and_o politic_a supremacy_n or_o sovereignty_n which_o he_o have_v or_o pretend_v partly_o by_o donation_n partly_o by_o submission_n and_o partly_o too_o by_o prescription_n to_o the_o kingdom_n of_o england_n and_o ireland_n 2._o that_o if_o not_o formal_o at_o least_o virtual_o and_o consequential_o it_o bereave_v the_o pope_n of_o even_o a_o mere_a spiritual_a bind_v and_o lose_v power_n of_o the_o subscriber_n as_o for_o example_n in_o case_n he_o shall_v make_v war_n on_o the_o king_n of_o england_n of_o set_v and_o only_o mere_a purpose_n to_o recover_v the_o church-land_n of_o ireland_n &_o to_o restore_v they_o to_o the_o right_a proprietor_n and_o apply_v they_o to_o those_o holy_a use_n they_o be_v at_o first_o design_v unto_o by_o the_o donor_n and_o in_o such_o case_n shall_v on_o pain_n of_o excommunication_n command_v all_o irish_a catholic_n not_o to_o fight_v against_o his_o army_n land_v in_o this_o kingdom_n but_o on_o the_o contrary_a to_o join_v heart_n and_o hand_n with_o it_o against_o the_o king_n and_o moreover_o to_o hold_v themselves_o real_o true_o and_o conscientious_o absolve_v by_o he_o from_o all_o allegiance_n to_o his_o majesty_n 3._o that_o it_o tie_v ghostly_a father_n to_o reveal_v secret_n hear_v in_o sacramental_a confession_n as_o when_o the_o penitent_n accuse_v themselves_o or_o otherwise_o declare_v in_o the_o confessional_a seat_n either_o direct_o or_o indirect_o any_o treason_n plot_n or_o conspiracy_n against_o the_o king_n 4._o that_o it_o subject_n clergyman_n against_o ecclesiastical_a immunity_n to_o the_o cognizance_n and_o punishment_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o these_o be_v all_o the_o ground_n which_o the_o say_a agent_n father_n brady_n tell_v myself_o upon_o his_o arrival_n at_o dublin_n from_o flanders_n after_o procure_v the_o say_a censure_n which_o the_o louvain_n divine_v have_v give_v of_o that_o remonstrance_n as_o be_v therefore_o sacrilegious_a and_o against_o the_o sincerity_n of_o the_o catholic_n faith_n weak_a one_o indeed_o and_o partly_o most_o false_a and_o partly_o too_o most_o unsignificant_a to_o prove_v either_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o liii_o for_o in_o relation_n to_o the_o first_o ground_n as_o the_o procuratour_n then_o reason_v with_o the_o say_a agent_n neither_o can_v that_o humane_a right_n or_o title_n of_o the_o pope_n or_o see_v of_o rome_n to_o england_n or_o ireland_n be_v prove_v so_o even_o as_o to_o its_o first_o origine_fw-la much_o less_o as_o to_o the_o continuance_n of_o it_o in_o after_o age_n that_o any_o divine_a may_v even_o according_a to_o the_o common_a rule_n or_o maxim_n of_o school_n divinity_n censure_v he_o that_o be_v in_o actual_a possession_n bona_fw-la fide_fw-la &_o his_o predecessor_n before_o he_o for_o so_o many_o hundred_o year_n to_o be_v either_o guilty_a of_o sacrilege_n or_o of_o do_v any_o thing_n against_o the_o sincerity_n of_o catholic_n faith_n for_o defend_v his_o say_a possession_n and_o title_n thereof_o against_o all_o opposer_n nor_o consequent_o censure_v the_o subscriber_n of_o a_o declaration_n which_o assert_n that_o right_a unto_o he_o to_o be_v guilty_a of_o either_o the_o only_a original_a pretence_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o see_v apostolic_a to_o ireland_n be_v that_o relation_n which_o
bounty_n how_o much_o more_o in_o reason_n must_v we_o not_o deny_v the_o church_n a_o power_n to_o deprive_v such_o of_o her_o own_o favour_n as_o will_v not_o perform_v the_o condition_n enjoin_v by_o she_o for_o the_o continuance_n of_o such_o favour_n three_o against_o that_o which_o be_v say_v by_o barclay_n and_o which_o i_o too_o have_v say_v above_o that_o this_o canon_n be_v make_v by_o the_o father_n to_o restrain_v the_o giddiness_n and_o rashness_n of_o such_o clergieman_n as_o will_v appeal_v from_o the_o church_n to_o a_o secular_a judge_n after_o the_o cause_n have_v be_v begin_v to_o be_v discuss_v in_o the_o church_n against_o this_o i_o say_v of_o a_o provision_n make_v here_o for_o such_o a_o case_n only_o of_o a_o judgement_n already_o begin_v in_o the_o court_n ecclesiastical_a and_o nevertheless_o before_o any_o judgement_n give_v transfer_v by_o a_o capricious_a clerk_n bellarmine_n argue_v by_o object_v the_o council_n of_o milevi_n concilium_fw-la melevitanum_n and_o it_o must_v be_v the_o second_o of_o milevi_n under_o arcadius_n and_o honorius_n where_o it_o be_v prohibit_v in_o the_o nine_o canon_n not_o that_o clerk_n transfer_v to_o secular_a court_n a_o cause_n begin_v already_o in_o the_o church_n but_o absolute_o prohibit_v that_o by_o no_o mean_n they_o go_v to_o the_o emperor_n to_o demand_v of_o he_o secular_a judge_n but_o the_o answer_n be_v obvious_a 1._o that_o divers_a canon_n may_v be_v make_v by_o divers_a council_n and_o that_o it_o be_v most_o evident_a that_o whatever_o the_o father_n of_o milevi_n ordain_v in_o the_o case_n those_o of_o carthage_n ordain_v no_o other_o than_o what_o william_n barclay_n say_v and_o what_o i_o too_o have_v after_o he_o say_v without_o any_o kind_n of_o interpretation_n or_o paraprase_n of_o the_o council_n but_o in_o the_o very_a word_n of_o the_o council_n or_o canon_n itself_o for_o these_o be_v the_o word_n precise_o of_o that_o canon_n come_v in_o ecclesia_fw-la ei_fw-la crimen_fw-la fuerit_fw-la intentatum_fw-la vel_fw-la civilis_fw-la causa_fw-la fuerit_fw-la comm●ta_fw-la let_v any_o one_o say_v now_o for_o bellarmine_n that_o ought_v else_o be_v decree_v by_o the_o canon_n than_o what_o be_v against_o such_o clerk_n as_o transfer_v a_o cause_n already_o begin_v in_o the_o church_n 2._o that_o for_o that_o council_n of_o milevi_n albeit_o the_o father_n prohibit_v in_o the_o canon_n cite_v out_o of_o it_o that_o clerk_n desire_v no_o secular_a judgement_n of_o the_o emperor_n yet_o they_o prohibit_v not_o the_o emperor_n himself_o to_o assign_v lay_v judge_n to_o a_o clerk_n if_o his_o imperial_a wisdom_n think_v it_o fit_a to_o assign_v such_o nor_o even_o prohibit_v clerk_n to_o answer_v if_o call_v upon_o by_o such_o lay_v judge_n and_o obey_v their_o sentence_n as_o bind_v they_o so_o that_o both_o council_n that_o of_o carthage_n and_o this_o of_o milevi_n say_v the_o very_a same_o thing_n in_o this_o matter_n without_o any_o other_o difference_n but_o only_o that_o this_o of_o milevi_n extend_v the_o prohibition_n further_o that_o be_v not_o only_o to_o the_o transfer_v of_o cause_n already_o begin_v before_o or_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o a_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n but_o even_o to_o cause_n not_o so_o begin_v for_o it_o simple_o or_o absolute_o prohibit_v clerk_n to_o transferr_v as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o lie_v any_o civil_a or_o criminal_a cause_n whatsoever_o whether_o so_o begin_v or_o not_o so_o begin_v to_o secular_a judge_n where_o yet_o it_o be_v apparent_a there_o be_v nothing_o at_o all_o for_o the_o immunity_n of_o clerk_n from_o secular_a judge_n be_v the_o command_n be_v only_o to_o clerk_n not_o to_o demand_v such_o lay_v judge_n and_o no_o command_n to_o no_o restriction_n at_o all_o of_o the_o lie_v judge_n to_o proceed_v ex_fw-la offi●i●_n when_o the_o cause_n of_o clerk_n be_v bring_v before_o they_o the_o second_o council_n that_o prescribe_v any_o thing_n in_o this_o matter_n be_v that_o true_o ecumenical_a or_o general_a of_o chalcedon_n for_o the_o former_a of_o carthage_n though_o of_o very_o great_a authority_n be_v but_o a_o national_a council_n of_o africa_n however_o canonize_v after_o by_o approbation_n of_o true_o general_a council_n hold_v in_o the_o year_n 451_o under_o martianus_n the_o emperor_n and_o pulcheria_n the_o empress_n who_o be_v both_o present_a and_o often_o sit_v in_o it_o wherein_o the_o nine_o canon_n make_v for_o discipline_n and_o regulation_n of_o church_n affair_n or_o those_o of_o clergyman_n be_v this_o si_fw-mi quis_fw-la clericus_fw-la adversus_fw-la clericum_fw-la habeat_fw-la negotium_fw-la non_fw-la derelinquat_fw-la preprium_fw-la episcopum_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la secularia_fw-la judicia_fw-la non_fw-la concurrat_fw-la sed_fw-la prius_fw-la negotium_fw-la agitetur_fw-la apud_fw-la proprium_fw-la episc●pum_fw-la vel_fw-la certe_fw-la si_fw-la fuerit_fw-la negotium_fw-la ipsius_fw-la episcopi_fw-la apud_fw-la arbitros_fw-la ex_fw-la utraque_fw-la parte_fw-la electos_fw-la audiatur_fw-la negotium_fw-la si_fw-mi quis_fw-la vero_fw-la contra_fw-la ipsius_fw-la provinciae_fw-la metropolitanum_n episcopum_fw-la episcopus_fw-la sive_fw-la clericus_fw-la habeat_fw-la controversiam_fw-la pergant_fw-la ad_fw-la ipsius_fw-la diaecesis_fw-la primatem_fw-la aut_fw-la certe●ad_v constantinopolitanae_n regiae_n civitatis_fw-la sedem_fw-la ut_fw-la eorum_fw-la ibi_fw-la negotium_fw-la terminetur_fw-la if_o any_o clerk_n have_v a_o controversy_n with_o another_o clerk_n let_v he_o not_o leave_v his_o proper_a bishop_n nor_o run_v to_o secular_a judicatories_n but_o first_o let_v the_o matter_n be_v agitate_a before_o his_o proper_a bishop_n or_o certain_o if_o the_o controversy_n be_v with_o this_o bishop_n himself_o let_v it_o be_v hear_v by_o arbiter_n choose_v by_o both_o side_n but_o if_o any_o bishop_n or_o clerk_n have_v a_o controversy_n with_o or_o against_o the_o metrapolitan_a of_o the_o province_n let_v they_o go_v to_o the_o primate_n of_o the_o diocese_n or_o certain_o to_o the_o see_v of_o the_o constantinopolitan_a royal_a city_n that_o the_o business_n may_v be_v end_v there_o and_o this_o be_v all_o this_o canon_n say_v where_o it_o be_v plain_a enough_o 1._o that_o the_o father_n direct_v their_o speech_n to_o clergieman_n only_o prescribe_v a_o rule_n to_o they_o only_o but_o none_o at_o all_o to_o lay_v magistrate_n or_o judge_n not_o even_o to_o the_o subordinat_a inferior_a judge_n so_o little_o do_v they_o meddle_v with_o or_o ever_o as_o much_o as_o think_v to_o meddle_v with_o the_o supreme_a that_o although_o they_o bid_v clerk_n not_o to_o go_v first_o to_o secular_a judgement_n yet_o they_o do_v not_o bid_v they_o not_o to_o go_v at_o last_o or_o in_o the_o next_o or_o second_o instance_n to_o such_o if_o they_o can_v agree_v that_o even_o to_o the_o clerk_n themselves_o they_o prescribe_v only_o in_o such_o case_n as_o a_o clerk_n have_v a_o controversy_n with_o another_o clerk_n but_o not_o in_o case_n a_o clerk_n have_v a_o quarrel_n with_o a_o laic_a or_o a_o laic_a to_o he_o 2._o that_o they_o declare_v not_o here_o enjoin_v or_o prescribe_v that_o it_o be_v not_o be_v not_o of_o shall_v not_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o a_o lay_v judge_n to_o determine_v of_o the_o cause_n of_o clerk_n one_o against_o another_o or_o of_o that_o of_o a_o clerk_n against_o a_o layman_n or_o of_o a_o layman_n against_o a_o clerk_n when_o either_o voluntary_o and_o by_o the_o party_n themselves_o bring_v before_o he_o or_o when_o by_o his_o own_o authority_n or_o by_o due_a course_n of_o law_n or_o by_o summons_n from_o he_o to_o either_o or_o both_o party_n they_o appear_v in_o his_o court._n so_o that_o this_o canon_n meddle_v not_o at_o all_o with_o the_o power_n authority_n or_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o lie_v magistrate_n or_o judge_n but_o only_o prescribe_v a_o rule_n to_o the_o clerk_n themselves_o that_o themselves_o shall_v not_o free_o or_o voluntary_o sue_v one_o another_o at_o least_o in_o prima_fw-la instantia_fw-la in_o secular_a judicatories_n and_o as_o we_o may_v just_o presume_v upon_o the_o same_o ground_n and_o for_o the_o same_o end_n we_o have_v before_o note_v the_o father_n of_o africa_n do_v in_o imitation_n of_o st._n paul_n or_o of_o his_o advice_n or_o command_v as_o you_o please_v to_o all_o christian_n in_o general_a to_o abstain_v from_o sue_v one_o another_o in_o heathen_a judicatories_n lest_o otherwise_o they_o will_v questionless_a betray_v their_o religion_n and_o belie_v it_o before_o the_o hater_n and_o persecutor_n of_o it_o 3._o that_o in_o case_n there_o be_v as_o there_o be_v not_o any_o word_n or_o matter_n in_o this_o canon_n of_o chalcedon_n restrain_v any_o way_n the_o jurisdiction_n of_o even_o inferior_a lie_v magistrate_n or_o judge_n yet_o it_o will_v be_v to_o no_o more_o purpose_n allege_v against_o i_o or_o against_o any_o thing_n i_o have_v say_v before_o in_o this_o section_n concern_v even_o the_o very_a same_o inferior_a lie_v magistrate_n and_o their_o jurisdiction_n over_o clerk_n in_o politic_a or_o temporal_a
the_o roman_n that_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n clerk_n be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n to_o pay_v tribute_n understand_v you_o if_o not_o dispense_v with_o by_o the_o prince_n therefore_o in_o his_o doctrine_n it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o they_o do_v not_o pay_v tribute_n and_o consequent_o in_o his_o doctrine_n it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o the_o church_n have_v power_n to_o exempt_a clerk_n from_o tribute_n whether_o prince_n will_v or_o not_o moreover_o and_o for_o the_o natural_a equity_n or_o congruity_n itself_o which_o we_o confess_v may_v be_v for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n from_o tribute_n allege_v out_o of_o st._n thomas_n and_o with_o due_a restriction_n plead_v also_o from_o natural_a reason_n do_v either_o tell_v we_o of_o soto_n even_o sole_a congruency_n for_o such_o exemption_n to_o be_v make_v by_o the_o sole_a power_n of_o the_o church_n and_o not_o rather_o by_o the_o prince_n themselves_o or_o will_v not_o this_o allegation_n of_o natural_a equity_n or_o congruity_n be_v satisfy_v if_o clergiemen_n be_v free_v by_o the_o secular_a prince_n themselves_o and_o only_o too_o in_o such_o case_n as_o these_o prince_n shall_v not_o upon_o rational_a and_o evident_a ground_n find_v it_o necessary_a for_o the_o defence_n of_o other_o good_a of_o both_o clerk_n and_o laic_n to_o sess_v the_o clerk_n for_o some_o time_n again_o and_o for_o what_o they_o can_v well_o spare_v without_o any_o hindrance_n to_o divine_a service_n final_o have_v not_o clerk_n in_o regard_n or_o lieu_n of_o their_o labour_n receive_v so_o many_o other_o great_a and_o rich_a and_o excellent_a and_o superabundant_a compensation_n as_o well_o by_o land_n and_o revenue_n as_o by_o other_o privilege_n or_o will_v nothing_o else_o serve_v they_o but_o a_o total_a exemption_n from_o the_o royalty_n of_o prince_n and_o of_o those_o very_a good_n and_o land_n too_o which_o the_o same_o prince_n give_v they_o and_o which_o the_o same_o prince_n continue_v and_o protect_v they_o in_o all_o way_n behold_v as_o from_o or_o for_o what_o concern_v those_o argument_n of_o soto_n how_o far_o it_o be_v from_o necessary_a that_o either_o the_o good_n or_o person_n of_o clergieman_n shall_v be_v exempt_a by_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n nay_o indeed_o or_o by_o any_o other_o from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a magistrate_n but_o as_o a_o addition_n to_o all_o i_o have_v already_o say_v i_o demand_v yet_o when_o it_o begin_v to_o be_v necessary_a that_o either_o good_n or_o person_n shall_v be_v so_o exempt_a for_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o neither_o have_v be_v always_o or_o in_o all_o age_n of_o christianity_n from_o the_o beginning_n nor_o even_o from_o the_o begin_n of_o those_o very_a age_n or_o that_o very_a time_n wherein_o christian_a religion_n be_v by_o law_n establish_v public_o neither_o so_o exempt_a i_o say_v by_o either_o pope_n or_o prince_n and_o i_o demand_v also_o whether_o before_o they_o be_v exempt_v any_o thing_n necessary_a be_v want_v to_o the_o church_n or_o after_o this_o time_n any_o thing_n at_o all_o time_n necessary_a accrue_v to_o the_o church_n and_o as_o soto_n must_v answer_v affirmative_o to_o both_o these_o last_o demand_n whether_o he_o can_v answer_v or_o no_o to_o the_o first_o so_o i_o must_v out_o of_o his_o affirmation_n conclude_v present_o that_o neither_o in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o apostle_n nor_o during_o five_o hundred_o year_n after_o and_o more_o the_o church_n have_v all_o necessary_n to_o attain_v she_o own_o proper_a end_n which_o be_v no_o other_o but_o salvation_n then_o which_o nothing_o can_v be_v say_v more_o impious_a and_o horrible_a by_o soto_n or_o any_o other_o to_o the_o first_o reason_n of_o franciscus_n victoria_n wherein_o he_o discourse_v thus_o that_o because_o the_o republic_n ecclesiastical_a be_v perfect_a and_o sufficient_a for_o itself_o that_o be_v sufficient_o empowr_v to_o attain_v its_o own_o end_n therefore_o it_o have_v power_n to_o make_v such_o law_n as_o be_v convenient_a for_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o also_o consequent_o if_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n be_v so_o convenient_a this_o republic_n may_v enact_v law_n for_o such_o exemption_n i_o answer_v 1._o that_o for_o this_o which_o be_v a_o republic_n to_o be_v perfect_a and_o sufficient_a or_o simple_o to_o the_o perfection_n and_o sufficiency_n of_o a_o republic_n be_v not_o require_v that_o it_o may_v enact_v all_o such_o law_n as_o make_v for_o its_o great_a splendour_n and_o glory_n but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v necessary_a for_o its_o be_v safety_n and_o condition_n and_o that_o i_o have_v show_v already_o here_o in_o this_o section_n that_o law_n of_o ecclesiastical_a exemption_n be_v not_o such_o that_o be_v be_v not_o necessary_a for_o its_o being_n etc._n etc._n nay_o or_o either_o for_o its_o well_o be_v safety_n and_o condition_n as_o it_o drive_v to_o its_o own_o proper_a end_n 2._o and_o that_o if_o this_o be_v not_o admit_v which_o i_o say_v in_o this_o my_o first_o answer_n it_o must_v follow_v out_o of_o this_o reason_n of_o victoria_n which_o himself_o too_o a_o little_a after_o it_o confess_v to_o follow_v that_o the_o politic_a temporal_a or_o civil_a commonwealth_n whereas_o it_o be_v also_o perfect_a and_o self_n sufficient_a uz._n in_o its_o own_o nature_n of_o such_o a_o commonwealth_n may_v also_o make_v law_n to_o the_o prejudice_n of_o the_o spiritual_a if_o such_o law_n do_v seem_v convenient_a to_o the_o decor_fw-la and_o majesty_n of_o the_o civil_a nay_o this_o conveniency_n do_v whole_o ruin_v their_o purpose_n for_o i_o demand_v whether_o be_v most_o convenient_a that_o secular_a prince_n and_o for_o the_o security_n of_o their_o secular_a principality_n and_o great_a splendour_n and_o majesty_n of_o they_o still_o retain_v that_o civil_a power_n over_o clerk_n which_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o nation_n give_v they_o over_o clerk_n or_o that_o the_o church_n to_o the_o end_n herself_o may_v seem_v or_o be_v more_o adorn_v and_o more_o dignify_v bereave_v prince_n of_o that_o power_n even_o against_o their_o know_a will_n and_o maugre_o all_o their_o opposition_n by_o law_n and_o arm_n what_o if_o the_o church_n shall_v find_v it_o sometime_o convenient_a also_o to_o subtract_v from_o the_o yoke_n or_o obedience_n of_o prince_n even_o a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o very_o mere_a laic_n to_o be_v as_o emancipate_v person_n or_o freeman_n evermore_o at_o the_o pleasure_n of_o the_o church_n ready_a to_o serve_v she_o as_o the_o patroness_n of_o their_o freedom_n and_o serve_v she_o too_o against_o their_o former_a lord_n that_o convenient_a be_v of_o too_o great_a and_o too_o too_o dangerous_a extension_n to_o the_o second_o reason_n of_o the_o same_o francis_n victoria_n which_o be_v that_o the_o pope_n may_v by_o his_o own_o proper_a authority_n choose_v ecclesiastical_a minister_n notwithstanding_o any_o contradiction_n of_o the_o civil_a power_n and_o therefore_o may_v upon_o the_o same_o ground_n exempt_v such_o minister_n from_o secular_a iudicatories_n the_o answer_n be_v that_o the_o reason_n be_v vain_a first_o because_o we_o know_v that_o no_o man_n be_v bind_v to_o be_v a_o clerk_n not_o even_o albeit_o the_o pope_n shall_v elect_v or_o appoint_v he_o for_o clerkship_n or_o which_o be_v that_o i_o mean_v that_o it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o pope_n power_n to_o fix_v on_o this_o or_o that_o mere_a layman_n and_o force_n or_o command_v he_o to_o clerkship_n at_o least_o to_o such_o clerkship_n as_o have_v so_o many_o burden_n annex_v to_o it_o by_o the_o positive_a canon_n of_o the_o church_n only_o although_o i_o confess_v it_o be_v in_o the_o pope_n power_n as_o belong_v proper_o to_o his_o office_n to_o choose_v out_o of_o the_o whole_a number_n of_o such_o as_o free_o offer_v themselves_o who_o he_o shall_v think_v fit_a and_o have_v these_o order_v and_o appoint_v minister_n of_o the_o church_n second_o because_o we_o know_v and_o that_o in_o the_o primitive_a age_n of_o christianity_n when_o establish_v by_o law_n as_o the_o religion_n of_o the_o empire_n such_o have_v not_o be_v admit_v to_o clerkship_n who_o the_o emperor_n prohibit_v or_o by_o their_o law_n incapacitate_v as_o much_o as_o they_o can_v from_o that_o course_n of_o life_n for_o hence_o it_o be_v we_o read_v so_o many_o law_n in_o the_o code_n of_o theodosius_n and_o justinian_n concern_v such_o as_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o clerkship_n and_o command_v such_o to_o be_v degrade_v and_o secularise_v again_o who_o be_v admit_v contrary_a to_o such_o law_n even_o law_n make_v by_o most_o christian_a and_o most_o orthodox_n prince_n the_o roman_a emperor_n constantine_n the_o great_a valentinian_n the_o elder_a arcadius_n and_o honorius_n theodosius_n the_o young_a leo_n and_o justinian_n it_o be_v a_o clear_a case_n ex_fw-la c._n theodos._n tit._n the_o episcop_n &_o
cler._n l._n 3._o l._n 6._o l._n 19_o &_o passim_fw-la illo_fw-la titulo_fw-la and_o in_o the_o code_n of_o justinian_n tit._n the_o episcop_n &_o cler._n l._n 4._o l._n 12._o l._n 16._o l._n 27._o &_o in_o authenticis_fw-la justiniani_fw-la collat_n 9_o tit._n 6._o novel_a 123._o de_fw-la sanctissim_fw-la episcopis_fw-la nay_o do_v not_o we_o read_v how_o gregory_n the_o great_a himself_o that_o no_o less_o holy_a than_o learned_a pope_n and_o zealous_a defender_n of_o all_o the_o true_a liberty_n of_o the_o church_n and_o canon_n of_o the_o father_n admit_v in_o the_o year_n 592._o nay_o promulge_v the_o law_n of_o mauritius_n wherein_o this_o emperor_n enact_v that_o no_o person_n obnoxious_a to_o account_n or_o debt_n nor_o soldier_n also_o who_o have_v not_o serve_v their_o full_a time_n in_o the_o war_n that_o be_v so_o many_o year_n as_o by_o law_n they_o ought_v before_o they_o can_v sue_v for_o a_o dismiss_v shall_v be_v receive_v to_o a_o monastical_a life_n in_o monastery_n nay_o that_o notwithstanding_o this_o holy_a pope_n himself_o conceive_v this_o law_n to_o be_v unjust_a in_o itself_o that_o be_v take_v strict_o and_o general_o in_o all_o case_n and_o to_o all_o such_o person_n and_o soldier_n yet_o in_o his_o letter_n on_o this_o subject_n to_o the_o same_o emperor_n which_o be_v 16._o epistle_n l._n 2._o registri_fw-la cap._n 100_o he_o signify_v his_o own_o obedience_n in_o receive_v or_o publish_v it_o in_o divers_a part_n of_o the_o world_n uz._n throughout_o the_o occidental_a part_n of_o the_o empire_n though_o withal_o to_o satisfy_v his_o own_o conscience_n he_o in_o the_o same_o letter_n expostulate_v the_o injustice_n of_o this_o law_n with_o the_o emperor_n conclude_v nevertheless_o all_o that_o very_a letter_n with_o these_o word_n of_o perfect_a submission_n and_o obedience_n ego_fw-la quidem_fw-la jussioni_fw-la subjectus_fw-la eamdem_fw-la legeni_fw-la per_fw-la diversos_fw-la terrarum_fw-la part_n transmitti_fw-la feci_fw-la &_o quia_fw-la lex_fw-la ipsa_fw-la omnipotenti_fw-la deo_fw-la minime_fw-la concordat_fw-la ecce_fw-la per_fw-la suggestionis_fw-la meae_fw-la paginam_fw-la serenissimis_fw-la dominis_n nunciavi_fw-la utrobique_fw-la ergo_fw-la quae_fw-la debui_fw-la exolici_fw-la qui_fw-la &_o imperatori_fw-la obedientiam_fw-la praebui_fw-la &_o pro_fw-la deo_fw-la quod_fw-la sensi_fw-la minimè_fw-la tacui_fw-la which_o import_n as_o much_o as_o that_o have_v declare_v to_o his_o imperial_a majesty_n his_o own_o judgement_n of_o the_o injustice_n of_o that_o law_n and_o consequent_o pay_v to_o god_n what_o be_v from_o himself_o in_o that_o business_n due_a to_o god_n and_o yet_o have_v at_o the_o same_o time_n send_v that_o very_a law_n according_a to_o the_o emperor_n command_n into_o divers_a part_n of_o the_o world_n to_o be_v publish_v and_o observe_v he_o have_v also_o pay_v to_o cesar_n what_o be_v herein_o due_a to_o cesar_n therefore_o i_o have_v say_v he_o on_o both_o side_n do_v what_o i_o ought_v who_o have_v do_v my_o obedience_n to_o the_o emperor_n and_o yet_o have_v not_o pass_v in_o silence_n what_o i_o think_v be_v for_o the_o service_n of_o god_n three_o and_o last_o because_o he_o conclude_v nothing_o at_o all_o for_o do_v we_o grant_v that_o the_o pope_n may_v at_o his_o own_o pleasure_n fix_v on_o person_n and_o command_v and_o force_v they_o to_o be_v order_v clerk_n against_o their_o own_o will_n yet_o will_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o he_o may_v therefore_o or_o indeed_o upon_o any_o other_o ground_n subtract_v or_o exempt_v they_o from_o the_o secular_a power_n either_o supreme_a or_o subordinat_a unless_o it_o be_v first_o suppose_v that_o whoever_o be_v once_o a_o clerk_n be_v also_o exempt_a from_o the_o civil_a power_n but_o here_o we_o dispute_v not_o whether_o clerk_n the_o facto_fw-la now_o be_v so_o exempt_v by_o any_o law_n or_o power_n but_o whether_o the_o pope_n or_o church_n may_v de_fw-la jure_fw-la at_o any_o time_n exempt_v they_o so_o even_o against_o the_o contradictory_n will_v of_o all_o civil_a law_n and_o and_o power_n which_o that_o the_o pope_n or_o church_n may_v or_o may_v do_v that_o argument_n will_v never_o prove_v because_o such_o exemption_n be_v not_o of_o the_o essence_n of_o clerk-ship_n nor_o at_o all_o necessary_o annex_v thereunto_o and_o clerk_n may_v have_v be_v choose_v by_o the_o pope_n and_o other_o bishop_n of_o the_o church_n nay_o and_o have_v be_v so_o actual_o choose_v for_o many_o hundred_o of_o year_n and_o even_o for_o some_o hundred_o too_o after_o the_o emperor_n be_v themselves_o christian_n when_o as_o yet_o the_o same_o clerk_n enjoy_v no_o such_o exemption_n by_o the_o law_n or_o otherwise_o but_o be_v and_o by_o the_o very_a law_n too_o of_o christian_a emperor_n express_o obnoxious_a even_o to_o inferior_a civil_a or_o lay_v judicatories_n now_o the_o reader_n may_v judge_v whether_o i_o ground_v well_o that_o last_o part_n also_o of_o my_o defiance_n make_v to_o the_o divine_n of_o louvain_n that_o be_v whether_o i_o have_v not_o reason_n to_o defy_v they_o as_o i_o have_v sect._n lxii_o to_o show_v as_o much_o as_o any_o one_o convince_a or_o even_o probable_a argument_n of_o natural_a reason_n to_o prove_v a_o power_n in_o the_o pope_n or_o church_n to_o exempt_a clergieman_n from_o the_o cognizance_n and_o coercion_n of_o the_o supreme_a civil_a prince_n or_o law_n under_o which_o they_o live_v as_o citizen_n or_o subject_n or_o live_v at_o least_o as_o repute_v citizen_n and_o subject_n lxxi_o to_o clear_v all_o whatever_o i_o intend_v either_o principal_o or_o incidental_o in_o the_o former_a section_n lxx_o it_o remain_v that_o i_o tell_v the_o reader_n brief_o that_o bellarmine_n be_v too_o too_o confident_a also_o where_o and_o when_o he_o say_v against_o barcley_n as_o we_o have_v see_v above_o in_o the_o say_v last_v lxx_o section_n immediate_o go_v before_o this_o that_o not_o only_o the_o pope_n can_v exempt_v all_o clergyman_n from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a power_n or_o can_v declare_v they_o former_o exempt_v so_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n but_o also_o that_o he_o have_v de_fw-fr facto_fw-la already_o exempt_v they_o or_o declare_v they_o exempt_v so_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n from_o all_o prince_n and_o state_n on_o earth_n even_o in_o all_o politic_a civil_a criminal_a and_o other_o cause_n whatsoever_o mix_v of_o both_o petuit_fw-la tamen_fw-la &_o voluit_fw-la summus_fw-la pontifex_fw-la illos_fw-la eximere_fw-la aut_fw-la jure_fw-la divino_fw-la exemptos_fw-la declarare_fw-la say_v he_o adversus_fw-la guliel_n barcl_n c._n 38._o for_o although_o it_o be_v not_o my_o task_n nor_o any_o part_n of_o my_o defiance_n or_o undertake_n in_o my_o above_o lxii_o section_n or_o any_o other_o place_n in_o this_o book_n nay_o though_o it_o be_v unnecessary_a as_o well_o in_o itself_o as_o for_o i_o to_o show_v here_o that_o no_o mere_a and_o sole_a papal_a canon_n have_v any_o such_o thing_n for_o we_o know_v that_o mere_a papal_a canon_n or_o such_o as_o be_v make_v only_o by_o the_o pope_n be_v not_o hoc_fw-la ipso_fw-la canon_n of_o the_o church_n nor_o also_o hoc_fw-la ipso_fw-la that_o they_o be_v insert_v in_o the_o decree_n of_o gratian_n or_o decretal_n of_o gregory_n or_o sixth_o of_o boniface_n or_o clementine_n of_o clemens_n or_o extravagant_n of_o john_n the_o xxii_o not_o to_o speak_v of_o those_o other_o late_a canon_n of_o other_o pope_n whereof_o petrus_n maffeus_n comprise_v a_o seven_o book_n of_o decretal_n and_o my_o defiance_n be_v concern_v those_o canon_n which_o be_v true_o and_o proper_o or_o simple_o call_v canon_n of_o the_o church_n videlicet_fw-la such_o as_o be_v make_v by_o general_a council_n or_o if_o at_o first_o by_o national_a or_o provincial_a council_n or_o if_o by_o the_o pope_n alone_o yet_o after_o have_v be_v canonize_v by_o general_a council_n or_o at_o least_o general_o receive_v by_o the_o church_n and_o my_o assertion_n of_o other_o canon_n how_o otherwise_o papal_n soever_o be_v what_o be_v too_o of_o many_o catholic_n divine_v and_o church_n that_o they_o be_v not_o simple_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n but_o canon_n of_o such_o or_o such_o particular_a church_n as_o make_v or_o receive_v they_o yea_o notwithstanding_o any_o extension_n soever_o of_o such_o by_o his_o holiness_n and_o consequent_o that_o no_o conclude_a or_o convince_a argument_n of_o general_a right_n in_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o no_o infallible_a truth_n can_v be_v derive_v from_o they_o as_o such_o yet_o i_o will_v here_o advertise_v such_o reader_n as_o be_v carry_v away_o and_o hurry_v into_o a_o belief_n of_o any_o thing_n which_o have_v right_a or_o wrong_n the_o papal_a authority_n or_o that_o of_o a_o mere_a and_o sole_a papal_a constitution_n for_o it_o not_o examine_v any_o further_a the_o truth_n of_o justice_n of_o it_o or_o whether_o the_o pope_n can_v determine_v any_o such_o thing_n or_o upon_o what_o ground_n or_o in_o what_o sense_n and_o by_o
other_o to_o be_v repugnant_a to_o a_o sincere_a profession_n of_o the_o catholic_n faith_n for_o the_o censure_n of_o louvain_n say_v our_o remonstrance_n contain_v somewhat_o repugnant_a to_o the_o sincere_a profession_n of_o the_o catholic_n faith_n and_o consequent_o say_v too_o the_o subscriber_n be_v bind_v under_o pain_n or_o guilt_n of_o sacrilege_n to_o refix_v their_o subscription_n and_o shall_v further_o conclude_v not_o only_o out_o of_o these_o last_o xiii_o section_n treat_v particular_o of_o ecclesiastical_a exemption_n nor_o only_o out_o of_o the_o lxi_o section_n immediate_o go_v before_o they_o all_o &_o show_v that_o remonstrance_n disclaim_v not_o quit_v not_o renounce_v not_o nor_o as_o much_o as_o touch_v upon_o ecclesiastical_a exemption_n but_o also_o out_o of_o those_o other_o eight_o yet_o more_o precedent_a section_n from_o liii_o to_o lx._n both_o incusive_o take_v which_o dispute_n against_o the_o three_o first_o ground_n of_o the_o say_v louvain_n censure_n i_o say_v that_o my_o lxxvi_o follow_v section_n shall_v further_o conclude_v final_o and_o general_o against_o this_o censure_n of_o sacrilege_n and_o of_o contain_v any_o thing_n against_o the_o sincere_a profession_n of_o the_o catholic_n faith_n and_o then_o i_o will_v return_v immediate_o to_o matter_n of_o fact_n which_o i_o have_v so_o long_o interrupt_v by_o these_o intervening_a dispute_n and_o will_v in_o a_o few_o section_n more_o three_o or_o four_o at_o most_o end_v this_o first_o part_n which_o the_o necessity_n of_o relate_v such_o material_a dispute_n have_v make_v so_o prolix_a lxxii_o therefore_o to_o begin_v and_o give_v in_o this_o present_a lxxii_o section_n those_o my_o first_o three_o argument_n to_o prove_v with_o much_o evidence_n as_o i_o have_v undertake_v that_o no_o clergieman_n whatsoever_o live_v within_o the_o dominion_n of_o any_o supreme_a temporal_a prince_n or_o state_n be_v exempt_a from_o but_o subject_a to_o the_o same_o prince_n or_o state_n be_v supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n in_o all_o mere_a civil_a temporal_a or_o politic_a matter_n and_o cause_n whatsoever_o my_o first_o of_o they_o be_v brief_o form_v thus_o whatever_o natural_a and_o mere_a civil_a temporal_a jurisdiction_n or_o politic_a power_n authority_n or_o dominion_n be_v in_o any_o supreme_a temporal_a prince_n as_o for_o example_n in_o constantine_n the_o great_a over_o any_o christian_n whatsoever_o laic_n or_o clerk_n before_o he_o become_v christian_a by_o baptism_n in_o re_fw-mi well_fw-mi in_o u●to_fw-la or_o by_o a_o perfect_a entire_a submission_n to_o the_o law_n of_o christianity_n the_o same_o natural_a and_o mere_a civil_a temporal_a or_o politic_a jurisdiction_n power_n authority_n and_o dominion_n over_o all_o the_o same_o christian_n laic_n and_o clerk_n remain_v in_o he_o after_o he_o be_v so_o become_v christian_a unless_o he_o do_v express_o and_o of_o his_o own_o accord_n divest_v himself_o of_o it_o and_o except_v the_o case_n wherein_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n have_v some_o formal_a or_o virtual_a caution_n or_o provision_n for_o the_o exemption_n of_o some_o of_o those_o christian_n from_o that_o power_n if_o any_o such_o case_n be_v behold_v the_o major_a of_o this_o my_o first_o argument_n whereof_o yet_o the_o further_a proof_n be_v quia_fw-la lex_fw-la christi_fw-la neminem_fw-la private_a jure_fw-la dominioque_fw-la svo_fw-la because_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n or_o true_a profession_n of_o christianity_n deprive_v no_o man_n of_o his_o right_n or_o dominion_n nor_o consequent_o of_o his_o natural_a or_o of_o his_o mere_a temporal_a civil_a or_o politic_a jurisdiction_n power_n authority_n or_o dominion_n whatsoever_o at_o least_o unless_o in_o such_o case_n only_o or_o in_o relation_n to_o such_o person_n only_o who_o be_v so_o exempt_v by_o special_a provision_n in_o this_o very_a law_n if_o any_o such_o case_n or_o person_n be_v non_fw-la eripit_fw-la mortalia_fw-la qui_fw-la regna_fw-la that_fw-mi calestia_fw-la be_v in_o this_o point_n the_o profession_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n as_o may_v be_v read_v in_o the_o sacred_a hymn_n host_n herodes_n impie_fw-la which_o be_v part_n of_o the_o public_a divine_a office_n of_o the_o same_o church_n in_o the_o breviary_n &_o on_o the_o feast_n of_o the_o epiphany_n and_o homo_fw-la quis_fw-la i_o constituit_fw-la judicem_fw-la aut_fw-la divisorem_fw-la super_fw-la vos_fw-la be_v the_o answer_n of_o the_o holy_a jesus_n himself_o to_o the_o man_n that_o will_v have_v have_v he_o command_v one_o brother_n to_o share_v the_o inheritance_n with_o another_o luke_n 12.24_o and_o to_o pilate_n also_o more_o clear_o yet_o regnum_fw-la meum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-fr hoc_fw-la mundo_fw-la si_fw-mi ex_fw-la hoc_fw-la mundo_fw-la esset_fw-la regnum_fw-la meum_fw-la ministri_fw-la mei_fw-la utique_fw-la decertarent_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la traderer_fw-la judaeis_n nunc_fw-la autem_fw-la regnum_fw-la meum_fw-la non_fw-la est-hinc_a joan._n 18.36_o and_o nun_n manens_fw-la munebat_fw-la tibi_fw-la &_o venumdatum_n in_o tua_fw-la erat_fw-la potestate_fw-la be_v the_o argument_n of_o st._n peter_n to_o reprove_v ananias_n for_o his_o lie_n and_o hypocrisy_n in_o seem_v to_o have_v offer_v at_o the_o foot_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o the_o common_a stock_n the_o whole_a price_n for_o which_o he_o sell_v a_o piece_n of_o ground_n of_o his_o own_o actor_n 5.4_o out_o of_o all_o which_o it_o be_v manifest_a enough_o that_o even_o for_o what_o depend_v of_o scripture_n we_o must_v admit_v this_o reason_n i_o give_v for_o my_o proposition_n or_o this_o maxim_n and_o concession_n also_o of_o even_a bellarmine_n himself_o and_o of_o other_o of_o his_o way_n quia_fw-la lex_fw-la christi_fw-la neminem_fw-la private_a sure_o dominioque_fw-la svo_fw-la as_o i_o have_v expound_v it_o in_o english_a and_o both_o modify_v &_o determine_v the_o genetical_a notion_n of_o right_a to_o that_o which_o be_v mere_o temporal_a and_o this_o temporal_a again_o with_o that_o particular_a exception_n but_o that_o quiet_v all_o advantage_n from_o those_o scripture_n right_a reason_n itself_o even_o suppose_v still_o all_o the_o uncontroverted_a or_o certain_a truth_n of_o christian_a religion_n conclude_v the_o necessity_n of_o admit_v this_o maxim_n lex_fw-la christi_fw-la nominem_fw-la private_a jure_fw-la dominioque_fw-la svo_fw-la as_o i_o have_v give_v it_o i_o demand_v of_o the_o denier_n or_o distinguisher_n of_o it_o otherwise_o first_o whether_o christianity_n leave_v any_o pure_a temporal_a right_n of_o any_o believer_n untouched_a or_o unaltered_a or_o unalterable_a in_o any_o case_n or_o whether_o it_o leave_v the_o subject_n or_o the_o king_n property_n in_o any_o of_o their_o respective_a good_n land_n house_n unchangeable_a undiminishable_a without_o their_o own_o consent_n and_o be_v no_o divine_a or_o canonist_n in_o the_o world_n can_v be_v so_o impudent_a or_o so_o ignorant_a as_o to_o answer_v these_o query_n negative_o because_o it_o be_v as_o clear_a as_o the_o sun_n that_o all_o both_o the_o essence_n and_o necessary_a appendage_n of_o christianity_n that_o be_v of_o christ_n kingdom_n or_o law_n and_o all_o the_o blessing_n and_o reward_n and_o also_o the_o very_a true_a proper_a genuine_a and_o only_a end_n of_o it_o which_o be_v the_o grace_n of_o god_n in_o this_o life_n and_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n in_o the_o next_o acquire_v by_o poor_a mortal_n be_v pure_o spiritual_a have_v no_o inconsistency_n at_o all_o with_o the_o temporal_a civil_a or_o politic_a right_n continue_v and_o remain_v still_o not_o only_o unchanged_a but_o also_o unchangeable_a in_o the_o believer_n without_o their_o own_o free_a consent_n for_o change_v or_o deprive_v themselves_o of_o such_o right_n i_o demand_v second_o wherefore_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n be_v say_v by_o any_o or_o how_o can_v it_o upon_o rational_a ground_n be_v say_v by_o any_o divine_a or_o canonist_n not_o to_o alter_v change_n deprive_v or_o touch_v any_o one_o or_o more_o sort_n or_o kind_n of_o temporal_a right_n and_o yet_o to_o alter_v change_n or_o deprive_v or_o have_v the_o power_n to_o deprive_v the_o believer_n of_o some_o other_o sort_n or_o kind_n or_o even_o of_o any_o one_o such_o at_o all_o unless_o there_o be_v a_o express_a caution_n or_o provision_n in_o the_o very_a law_n itself_o of_o christ_n that_o this_o particular_a civil_a right_n or_o property_n may_v be_v transfer_v from_o the_o former_a proprietour_n and_o no_o other_o but_o this_o and_o be_v it_o be_v evident_a enough_o this_o last_o query_n can_v be_v answer_v but_o by_o confess_v that_o there_o can_v be_v no_o rational_a ground_n for_o say_v so_o and_o be_v that_o to_o this_o day_n neither_o bellarmine_n nor_o any_o other_o can_v show_v or_o produce_v any_o passage_n of_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n wherein_o there_o be_v any_o such_o caution_n or_o provision_n that_o be_v to_o say_v any_o other_o but_o that_o only_a one_o in_o the_o case_n of_o a_o misbelieve_v husband_n it_o be_v also_o evident_a enough_o that_o right_a reason_n itself_o without_o any_o help_n from_o
plant_n but_o i_o can_v hearty_o wish_v that_o baronius_n write_v thus_o of_o this_o law_n have_v not_o rather_o himself_o both_o dote_v and_o rave_v than_o christian_a prince_n do_v in_o make_v their_o own_o law_n and_o i_o can_v wish_v too_o this_o of_o baronius_n be_v a_o effect_n of_o sickness_n or_o age_n for_o so_o it_o will_v work_v compassion_n of_o not_o a_o version_n from_o he_o but_o alas_o this_o evil_n of_o he_o be_v a_o far_o worse_a and_o more_o pernicious_a evil_n of_o the_o mind_n to_o wit_n a_o voluntary_a but_o cloak_a dotage_n to_o context_n together_o long_a discourse_n and_o sow_v together_o manifest_a imposture_n of_o mere_a purpose_n to_o deceive_v the_o simple_a and_o unlearned_a reader_n for_o in_o truth_n what_o baronius_n obt●●deth_v on_o we_o for_o truth_n of_o the_o correction_n and_o amendment_n of_o that_o law_n as_o do_v authoritative_o by_o gregory_n be_v both_o vain_a and_o forge_a and_o therefore_o that_o specious_a authority_n of_o the_o roman_a pontiff_n in_o temporal_n as_o pretend_v hence_o or_o as_o in_o a_o dream_n ground_a ●n_n and_o augment_v by_o this_o feign_a fact_n of_o gregory_n fall_v whole_o to_o ground_n for_o it_o be_v a_o manifest_a truth_n out_o of_o st._n gregory_n himself_o that_o he_o as_o a_o obedient_a man_n and_o as_o even_o in_o this_o perfect_o subject_a publish_v that_o same_o very_a whole_a entire_a law_n as_o it_o be_v write_v and_o sign_v by_o the_o emperor_n here_o gregorie_n own_o word_n and_o testimony_n hereof_o ego_fw-la quidem_fw-la jussioni_fw-la subjectus_fw-la camdem_fw-la l●gem_fw-la per_fw-la diversas_fw-la terrarum_fw-la part_n transmitti_fw-la feci_fw-la &_o quia_fw-la l●x_fw-la ipsa_fw-la omnipotenti_fw-la deo_fw-la minime_fw-la concordat_fw-la ecce_fw-la per_fw-la suggestionis_fw-la meae_fw-la paginam_fw-la seren●ssimis_fw-la diminis_fw-la nunciavi_fw-la therefore_o gregory_n publish_v that_o very_a law_n as_o yet_o when_o he_o publish_v it_o not_o agree_v with_o the_o law_n of_o god_n in_o the_o same_o gregory_n opinion_n which_o yet_o if_o he_o have_v correct_v and_o so_o correct_v as_o he_o think_v fit_a or_o agreeable_a to_o god_n and_o then_o be_v so_o correct_v have_v publish_v it_o who_o see_v not_o as_o clear_v as_o may_v be_v that_o he_o have_v not_o say_v to_o the_o emperor_n as_o he_o do_v in_o these_o word_n i_o true_o be_v subject_n to_o your_o command_n have_v send_v that_o very_o same_o law_n to_o diverse_a part_n of_o the_o world_n and_o forasmuch_o as_o the_o law_n itself_o d●th_v not_o in_o any_o wise_a agree_v with_o god_n behold_v i_o have_v by_o this_o page_n of_o my_o suggestion_n tell_v so_o much_o to_o my_o most_o serene_a lord_n and_o who_o see_v not_o also_o that_o if_o he_o have_v correct_v it_o and_o so_o after_o correction_n publish_v it_o he_o have_v not_o further_o and_o immediate_o after_o the_o former_a word_n add_v these_o other_o vtrobique_fw-la ergo_fw-la quae_fw-la debui_fw-la ex●lui_fw-la qui_fw-la &_o imperatori_fw-la obedientiam_fw-la praebui_fw-la &_o pro_fw-la deo_fw-la quod_fw-la sensi_fw-la minimè_fw-la tacui_fw-la for_o sure_o if_o he_o have_v correct_v it_o he_o have_v not_o say_v pro_fw-la deo_fw-la quod_fw-la sensi_fw-la minimé_fw-fr tacui_fw-la but_o have_v inform_v the_o emperor_n of_o the_o correction_n make_v and_o yet_o in_o relation_n to_o the_o iniquity_n of_o that_o law_n he_o express_v not_o that_o he_o have_v do_v any_o more_o than_o not_o to_o have_v be_v silent_a but_o to_o have_v signify_v his_o mind_n or_o judgement_n thereupon_o to_o the_o emperor_n nor_o let_v bellarmine_n think_v to_o evade_v by_o say_v again_o that_o gregory_n do_v so_o out_o of_o fear_n and_o by_o constraint_n or_o coaction_n for_o gregory_n himself_o confess_v that_o what_o he_o do_v herein_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v do_v vtrobique_fw-la ergo_fw-la quae_fw-la debui_fw-la exolui_fw-la now_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o what_o we_o ought_v to_o do_v we_o either_o do_v not_o by_o constraint_n or_o certain_o if_o we_o be_v thereto_o constrain_v that_o we_o be_v deserve_o and_o just_o constrain_v and_o that_o coaction_n to_o such_o lessen_v not_o the_o conscientious_a tie_n to_o such_o beside_o who_o see_v not_o this_o dilemma_n be_v unanswerable_a by_o bellarmine_n the_o promulgation_n of_o that_o law_n by_o gregory_n be_v in_o itself_o just_a or_o unjust_a or_o which_o be_v the_o same_o thing_n good_a or_o evil_n if_o unjust_a or_o evil_a gregorys_n obedience_n be_v both_o foolish_a and_o impious_a nor_o do_v any_o coaction_n excuse_v it_o from_o be_v such_o because_o no_o man_n can_v be_v necessitate_v nor_o ever_o yet_o be_v necessitate_v to_o do_v evil_a for_o there_o be_v not_o any_o nor_o ever_o yet_o be_v any_o but_o may_v have_v avoid_v and_o may_v for_o the_o future_a avoid_v evil_a notwithstanding_o any_o coaction_n by_o undergo_n the_o punishment_n which_o peradventure_o attend_v he_o if_o he_o do_v it_o not_o and_o this_o undergo_n or_o not_o undergo_a be_v in_o his_o own_o free_a will_n if_o just_a or_o good_a then_o be_v the_o recourse_n to_o coaction_n frustraneous_a and_o indeed_o that_o it_o be_v both_o just_a and_o good_a gregory_n himself_o teach_v where_o he_o say_v that_o in_o this_o matter_n he_o do_v that_o which_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v do_v where_o you_o see_v he_o acknowledge_v a_o duty_n of_o obedience_n and_o i_o be_o sure_a that_o to_o comply_v with_o or_o discharge_v a_o duty_n of_o obedience_n be_v both_o just_a and_o good_a but_o let_v we_o leave_v bellarmine_n and_o return_v to_o baronius_n this_o famous_a annalist_n give_v god_n thanks_n that_o he_o light_v on_o a_o certain_a epistle_n of_o gregory_n l._n 7._o indic_n 1._o epist_n xi_o wherewith_o he_o may_v give_v some_o colour_n to_o he_o above_o forgery_n that_o i_o mean_v which_o he_o pretend_v of_o the_o correction_n and_o amendment_n of_o that_o law_n of_o mauritius_n as_o make_v by_o s._n gregory_n and_o this_o epistle_n itself_o direct_v to_o many_o metropolitan_o of_o as_o well_o the_o east_n as_o the_o west_n because_o it_o be_v but_o short_a i_o give_v here_o good_a reader_n for_o thy_o more_o ample_a satisfaction_n lege●_n say_v gregory_n write_v to_o eusebius_n thessalonicensis_n vrbitius_fw-la deracitanus_n constantinus_n medi●lanensis_fw-la andrea●_n nicopolitanus_n joannes_n corinthi_n joannes_n primae_fw-la justinianae_fw-la joannes_n cretensis_n coritanus_n joannes_n larisseus_fw-la marianus_n ravennas_fw-la jan._n claral_a sard._n and_o to_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o sicily_n legem_fw-la say_v he_o quam_fw-la piissimus_fw-la imperator_fw-la dedit_fw-la ne_fw-la fortasse_fw-la ij_o qui_fw-la militiae_fw-la vel_fw-la rationibus_fw-la sun●_n publicis_fw-la obligati_fw-la dum_fw-la causarum_fw-la suarum_fw-la periculum_fw-la fugiunt_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiasticum_fw-la habitum_fw-la veniant_fw-la vel_fw-la in_o monasterijs_fw-la convertantur_fw-la pestrae_fw-la studui_fw-la faternitati_fw-la transmitter_n hoc_fw-la maxim_n exhortans_fw-la quod_fw-la ij_o qui_fw-la seculi_fw-la actionibus_fw-la implicati_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_fw-la clero_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la praepropere_fw-la suscipiendi_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la quia_fw-la dum_fw-la in_o ecclesiastico_fw-la habitu_fw-la non_fw-la dissimiliter_fw-la quam_fw-la vixerant_fw-la vivunt_fw-la nequaquam_fw-la student_fw-la saeculum_fw-la fugere_fw-la sed_fw-la mutare_fw-la quod_fw-la si_fw-la etiam_fw-la tale_n quoque_fw-la monasterium_fw-la petunt_fw-la suscipiendi_fw-la nullo_n modo_fw-la sunt_fw-la nisi_fw-la prius_fw-la actionibus_fw-la publicis_fw-la absoluti_fw-la fuerint_fw-la si_fw-mi qui_fw-la vero_fw-la ex_fw-la militaribus_fw-la virit_n in_o monasterijs_fw-la converti_fw-la festinant_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la temere_fw-la suscipiendi_fw-la nisi_fw-la eorum_fw-la vita_fw-la fuerit_fw-la subtiliter_fw-la inquisita_fw-la et_fw-la juxta_fw-la normam_fw-la regularem_fw-la debent_fw-la svo_fw-la habitu_fw-la per_fw-la triennium_fw-la probari_fw-la &_o tunc_fw-la m●nachicum_n habitum_fw-la deo_fw-la auctore_fw-la suscipere_fw-la qui_fw-la si_fw-la ita_fw-la probati_fw-la atque_fw-la suscepti_fw-la &_o pro_fw-la anima_fw-la sva_fw-la paenitentiam_fw-la de_fw-la perpetratis_fw-la culpis_fw-la agere_fw-la student_fw-la pro_fw-la eorum_fw-la vita_fw-la &_o lucro_fw-la celesti_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la eorum_fw-la conuersio_fw-la renuenda_fw-la qua_fw-la de_fw-la re_fw-la etiam_fw-la serenissimus_a &_o christianissimus_a imperator_n mihi_fw-la credit_n omnimodo_fw-la placatur_fw-la &_o libenter_fw-la eorum_fw-la conversionem_fw-la suscipit_fw-la quos_fw-la in_o rationibus_fw-la publitis_fw-la implicatos_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la cognovit_fw-la hitherto_o that_o epistle_n of_o gregory_n for_o the_o light_n on_o which_o baronius_n give_v thanks_n to_o god_n but_o i_o have_v already_o prove_v with_o all_o evidence_n imaginable_a out_o of_o gregory_n himself_o that_o be_v out_o of_o his_o other_o epistle_n to_o mauritius_n himself_o and_o to_o his_o intimate_a physician_n theodorus_n that_o he_o publish_v that_o law_n not_o correct_v nor_o amend_v nor_o alter_v by_o he_o but_o as_o it_o be_v conceive_v and_o send_v by_o mauritius_n that_o be_v as_o it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o opinion_n of_o gregory_n conformable_a or_o please_a to_o god_n and_o therefore_o it_o must_v either_o be_v admit_v if_o we_o do_v not_o tax_v gregory_n with_o a_o manifest_a lie_n to_o the_o very_a emperor_n
great_a strictness_n in_o his_o own_o way_n i_o mean_v according_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o prelate_n and_o noble_n of_o that_o assembly_n at_o paris_n but_o for_o a_o judgement_n also_o give_v of_o purpose_n on_o that_o whole_a controversy_n and_o give_v by_o a_o contemporary_a historian_n a_o catholic_n by_o religion_n a_o monk_n by_o profession_n and_o writer_n of_o very_a good_a repute_n gulielmus_fw-la neubrigensis_n and_o a_o judgement_n give_v by_o he_o of_o this_o matter_n even_o after_o thomas_n have_v be_v both_o martyrize_v and_o canonize_v you_o have_v it_o in_o his_o three_o book_n cap._n 16._o and_o in_o these_o word_n sane_n cum_fw-la plerique_fw-la soleant_fw-la in_o iis_fw-la quos_fw-la amant_fw-fr &_o laudant_fw-la affectu_fw-la quidem_fw-la propensiori_fw-la sed_fw-la prudentia_fw-la parciori_fw-la quicquid_fw-la ab_fw-la iis_fw-la geritur_fw-la approba●e_fw-la planè_fw-la ego_fw-la in_o viro_fw-la illo_fw-la venerabili_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la ita_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la acta_fw-la sunt_fw-la ut_fw-la nulla_fw-la exinde_fw-la proveniret_fw-la utilitas_fw-la sed_fw-la fervour_n tantum_fw-la accenderetur_fw-la regius_n ex_fw-la quo_fw-la tot_fw-la mala_fw-la post_fw-la modum_fw-la pullulasse_n noscuntur_fw-la laudanda_fw-la nequaquam_fw-la censuerim_fw-la licet_fw-la ex_fw-la laudabili_fw-la zelo_fw-la processerint_fw-la sicut_fw-la nec_fw-la in_o beatissimo_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la principe_fw-la arcem_fw-la jam_fw-la apostolicae_fw-la perfectionis_fw-la tenente_fw-la quod_fw-la ge●tes_fw-la svo_fw-la exemplo_fw-la judaizare_fw-la coegit_fw-la in_fw-la quo_fw-la eum_fw-la doctor_n gentium_fw-la reprehensibilem_fw-la deciatat_fw-la fuisse_fw-la licet_fw-la eum_fw-la constat_fw-la laudabili_fw-la hoc_fw-la pielate_fw-la fecisse_fw-la three_o reason_n that_o he_o may_v possible_o be_v imbue_v with_o the_o doctrine_n which_o be_v grow_v then_o of_o the_o exemption_n of_o clergieman_n either_o by_o divine_a immediate_a right_n of_o the_o positive_a or_o even_o natural_a law_n of_o god_n or_o by_o that_o which_o be_v pretend_v to_o be_v mediate_o divine_a and_o immediate_o canonical_a or_o humane_a from_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n or_o at_o least_o from_o the_o bad_a or_o false_a interpretation_n of_o those_o canon_n or_o by_o some_o prescription_n and_o will_n and_o power_n of_o those_o pope_n who_o so_o mighty_o in_o his_o day_n and_o for_o almost_o a_o whole_a age_n before_o his_o day_n immediate_o and_o continual_o contest_v with_o the_o very_a emperor_n themselves_o and_o all_o other_o bishop_n for_o both_o the_o spiritual_a and_o temporal_a sovereignty_n of_o the_o world_n and_o this_o too_o by_o a_o pretence_n of_o divine_a right_n and_o that_o we_o must_v not_o wonder_v that_o even_o on_o so_o great_a a_o saint_n as_o saint_n thomas_n of_o canterbury_n himself_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o first_o apostolic_a see_n and_o the_o number_n of_o her_o admirer_n adorer_n and_o follower_n then_o in_o what_o quarrel_n soever_o and_o the_o specious_a pretence_n of_o piety_n in_o the_o cause_n and_o education_n in_o such_o principle_n or_o among_o such_o people_n shall_v work_v a_o strong_a pre-possession_n of_o zeal_n as_o for_o the_o cause_n of_o god_n be_v it_o be_v repute_v the_o cause_n of_o the_o church_n however_o that_o according_a to_o the_o verity_n of_o thing_n or_o true_a law_n divine_a or_o humane_a as_o in_o themselves_o naked_o or_o abstract_o it_o may_v peradventure_o not_o have_v either_o the_o cause_n of_o god_n or_o the_o cause_n of_o the_o church_n four_o reason_n and_o it_o be_v a_o confirmation_n that_o be_v a_o very_a probable_a argument_n though_o nor_o perhaps_o thorough_o or_o rigid_o demonstrative_a of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o three_o that_o in_o the_o speech_n or_o word_n of_o st_n thomas_n of_o canterbury_n in_o the_o time_n of_o his_o banishment_n to_o his_o king_n henry_n the_o second_o at_o chinun_n which_o honeden_n ad_fw-la a_o 1165._o call_v verba_fw-la beati_fw-la thomae_fw-la cantuariensis_n archiepiscopi_fw-la ad_fw-la henricum_fw-la regem_fw-la angliae_fw-la in_o concilio_n svo_fw-la apud_fw-la chinun_n we_o find_v this_o sentence_n of_o he_o et_fw-fr quia_fw-la certum_fw-la est_fw-la reges_fw-la potestatem_fw-la svam_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la accipere_fw-la etc._n etc._n wherein_o i_o be_o certain_a this_o holy_a bishop_n be_v point_n blank_a contrary_n to_o the_o sense_n of_o ten_o thousand_o other_o holy_a bishop_n before_o he_o in_o the_o more_o primitive_a age_n of_o the_o church_n and_o contrary_a to_o plain_a scripture_n and_o universal_a tradition_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n for_o at_o least_o the_o ten_o first_o and_o best_a age_n of_o christianity_n five_o reason_n that_o it_o be_v not_o so_o clear_a in_o all_o respect_n that_o those_o sixteen_o head_n of_o custom_n pass_v not_o legal_o and_o long_o before_o the_o saint_n death_n into_o a_o just_a municipal_a law_n of_o the_o land_n or_o of_o england_n notwithstanding_o that_o st._n thomas_n deny_v and_o even_o just_o too_o deny_v his_o own_o hand_n and_o seal_v or_o even_o just_o also_o retract_v his_o own_o former_a consent_n by_o oath_n yea_o and_o notwithstanding_o that_o it_o be_v mere_o out_o of_o fear_n that_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o bishop_n do_v at_o first_o consent_n or_o give_v their_o own_o consent_n by_o oath_n likewise_o for_o it_o may_v be_v say_v first_o and_o say_v also_o upon_o very_o probable_a ground_n out_o of_o the_o several_a ancient_a catholic_n and_o even_o ecclesiastic_a historian_n who_o write_v of_o purpose_n of_o those_o day_n and_o matter_n that_o they_o all_o free_o after_o consent_v and_o second_o it_o may_v be_v say_v that_o the_o great_a vote_n enact_v a_o law_n in_o parliament_n have_v the_o consent_n royal_a whether_o one_o bishop_n or_o more_o peradventure_o or_o even_o all_o the_o bishop_n dissent_n and_o three_o yet_o i●_n may_v be_v say_v that_o all_o law_n most_o common_o or_o at_o least_o too_o often_o may_v be_v call_v in_o question_n upon_o that_o ground_n of_o fear_n of_o the_o prince_n sixth_o and_o last_o reason_n that_o we_o must_v rather_o give_v any_o answer_n that_o involve_v not_o heresy_n or_o manifest_a error_n in_o the_o catholic_n faith_n or_o natural_a reason_n obvious_a to_o every_o man_n then_o allow_v or_o justify_v the_o particular_a action_n or_o contest_v or_o doctrine_n of_o any_o one_o bishop_n or_o pope_n how_o great_a or_o holy_a soever_o otherwise_o or_o even_o of_o many_o such_o or_o of_o all_o their_o partaker_n in_o such_o against_o both_o holy_a scripture_n plain_a enough_o in_o the_o case_n and_o the_o holy_a father_n general_o for_o the_o ten_o first_o age_n in_o their_o explication_n of_o such_o scripture_n and_o consequent_o against_o that_o universal_a tradition_n which_o must_v of_o necessity_n be_v allow_v nihil_fw-la enim_fw-la innovandum_fw-la sed_fw-la quod_fw-la traditum_fw-la est_fw-la observandum_fw-la behold_v here_o six_o reason_n which_o take_v at_o least_o altogether_o may_v justify_v my_o give_v the_o two_o last_o answer_n or_o my_o add_v they_o to_o the_o other_o two_o former_a as_o for_o the_o rest_n i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o reader_n choice_n which_o of_o all_o four_o he_o will_v fix_v on_o though_o i_o myself_o and_o for_o my_o own_o part_n and_o out_o of_o a_o great_a reverence_n to_o the_o saint_n himself_o and_o to_o the_o pope_n that_o canonize_a he_o or_o to_o that_o pope_n i_o mean_v in_o as_o much_o as_o he_o canonize_v he_o for_o a_o martyr_n in_o such_o a_o cause_n if_o he_o do_v so_o or_o intend_v so_o take_v the_o name_n of_o martyr_n proper_o and_o strict_o whereof_o what_o we_o read_v in_o our_o very_a breviary_n of_o the_o cause_n for_o which_o the_o pope_n say_v he_o suffer_v may_v perhaps_o give_v some_o occasion_n of_o scruple_n be_v it_o be_v there_o say_v of_o those_o law_n of_o henry_n the_o second_o and_o only_o say_v that_o they_o be_v leges_fw-la utilitati_fw-la ac_fw-la dignitati_fw-la ordinis_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la repugnantes_fw-la but_o not_o say_v that_o they_o be_v law_n against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n though_o i_o say_v i_o can_v wish_v for_o these_o reason_n that_o all_o my_o reader_n do_v fix_v as_o i_o do_v myself_o rather_o on_o the_o first_o and_o second_o answer_v then_o on_o the_o two_o last_o but_o on_o which_o soever_o of_o all_o four_o they_o six_o i_o be_o confident_a none_o may_v infer_v that_o they_o or_o i_o question_v thomas_n of_o canterbury_n sanctity_n in_o this_o world_n either_o in_o his_o life_n or_o at_o his_o death_n or_o his_o glory_n in_o heaven_n after_o his_o death_n or_o question_v the_o bull_n of_o of_o his_o canonisation_n or_o question_v the_o holy_a practice_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o her_o veneration_n or_o invocation_n or_o final_o question_v as_o much_o as_o those_o miracle_n which_o i_o suppose_v be_v sufficient_o prove_v in_o the_o process_n form_v for_o his_o canonisation_n or_o even_o those_o which_o as_o wrought_v after_o that_o time_n at_o his_o tomb_n or_o elsewhere_o be_v allege_v upon_o sufficient_a ground_n if_o any_o such_o be_v so_o allege_v though_o i_o can_v hear_v
his_o power_n and_o authority_n and_o we_o know_v there_o may_v be_v many_o other_o pretend_a ground_n power_n authority_n however_o these_o matter_n be_v i_o declare_v first_o it_o be_v not_o the_o homeness_n of_o the_o irish_a formulary_a against_o the_o pope_n but_o rather_o defect_n of_o that_o full_a and_o perfect_a and_o unavoidable_a undistinguishable_a homeness_n thereof_o that_o trouble_v i_o though_o withal_o how_o defective_a or_o unhome_n soever_o it_o may_v be_v say_v by_o some_o to_o be_v against_o the_o pope_n and_o church_n or_o for_o the_o king_n and_o civil_a magistracy_n yet_o no_o man_n will_v deny_v now_o but_o that_o the_o roman_a court_n esteem_v it_o too_o too_o home_n and_o full_a against_o their_o interest_n and_o papal_a usurpation_n second_o that_o have_v i_o be_v at_o first_o consult_v with_o as_o to_o the_o frame_n or_o fix_v on_o a_o formulary_a of_o allegiance_n to_o the_o king_n neither_o king_n nor_o council_n nor_o parliament_n or_o house_n of_o commons_o nor_o other_o protestant_n subject_a or_o not_o subject_a whatsoever_o shall_v have_v any_o ground_n leave_v for_o except_v against_o the_o shortness_n or_o defectiveness_n of_o it_o as_o to_o any_o point_n controvert_v hitherto_o in_o that_o which_o relate_v to_o indispensable_a allegiance_n in_o all_o temporal_a thing_n whatsoever_o or_o to_o its_o be_v open_a to_o evasion_n or_o liable_a to_o any_o kind_n of_o quibble_n not_o even_o to_o that_o of_o the_o reduplicative_a or_o specificative_a sense_n three_o that_o nevertheless_o i_o shall_v not_o have_v be_v move_v hereunto_o out_o of_o other_o respect_n than_o that_o of_o redeem_v the_o roman-catholic_n from_o the_o severity_n of_o the_o law_n against_o they_o hitherto_o these_o 100_o year_n and_o i_o mean_v that_o of_o redeem_v they_o only_o by_o a_o declaration_n of_o their_o future_a fidelity_n and_o obedience_n in_o all_o civil_a and_o temporal_a matter_n so_o full_a clear_a and_o positive_a as_o will_v be_v answerable_a in_o all_o point_n to_o their_o so_o long_a consultation_n about_o such_o a_o one_o this_o whole_a entire_a age_n past_a wherein_o they_o have_v decline_v first_o the_o oath_n of_o supremacy_n next_o that_o of_o allegiance_n and_o by_o their_o demur_n on_o both_o render_v themselves_o not_o only_o obnoxious_a to_o so_o many_o law_n but_o also_o to_o so_o many_o jealousy_n and_o suspicion_n of_o their_o loyalty_n to_o the_o crown_n and_o kingdom_n of_o england_n ireland_n etc._n etc._n as_o if_o they_o incline_v to_o the_o vain_a pretence_n of_o foreign_a power_n and_o what_o i_o pray_v you_o will_v judicious_a learned_a protestant_n say_v or_o rather_o what_o will_v they_o not_o say_v now_o when_o they_o can_v but_o understand_v how_o the_o say_a catholic_n oppose_v now_o again_o even_o a_o very_a cautious_a declaration_n of_o bare_a and_o mere_a allegiance_n in_o civil_a thing_n only_o and_o such_o a_o declaration_n too_o i_o mean_v as_o be_v frame_v not_o by_o any_o protestant_n but_o by_o themselves_o or_o will_v not_o such_o protestant_n as_o please_v have_v hence_o a_o very_a specious_a and_o probable_a ground_n to_o allege_v in_o parliament_n and_o plead_v there_o open_o against_o the_o comprehension_n of_o papist_n in_o any_o act_n of_o indulgence_n to_o tender_a conscience_n shall_v there_o be_v any_o such_o and_o to_o allege_v and_o plead_v i_o say_v a_o manifest_a inconsistence_n betwixt_o the_o safety_n of_o a_o protestant_a prince_n or_o state_n and_o the_o repeal_n of_o law_n heretofore_o make_v against_o people_n so_o principled_a or_o any_o absolute_a liberty_n or_o freedom_n of_o exercise_n of_o religion_n to_o they_o who_o religion_n appear_v by_o so_o many_o argument_n to_o be_v destructive_a to_o the_o very_a fundamental_o of_o any_o civil_a state_n especial_o protestant_a because_o deny_v still_o to_o acknowledge_v as_o much_o as_o the_o very_a essence_n of_o such_o a_o state_n this_o essence_n if_o not_o consist_v in_o at_o least_o require_v for_o one_o part_n of_o its_o essential_o to_o be_v absolute_o sovereign_a or_o supreme_a and_o independent_a from_o any_o but_o god_n alone_o in_o all_o temporal_a and_o civil_a thing_n and_o may_v not_o consequent_o the_o same_o protestant_n plead_v that_o such_o roman-catholic_n as_o peremptory_o refuse_v to_o acknowledge_v that_o absolute_a sovereignty_n or_o supremacy_n and_o independency_n in_o such_o a_o form_n of_o declaration_n or_o oath_n as_o can_v be_v liable_a to_o any_o evasion_n in_o any_o kind_n of_o contingency_n whatsoever_o have_v no_o title_n at_o all_o to_o his_o majesty_n gracious_a promise_n in_o his_o letter_n from_o breda_n for_o indulgence_n to_o be_v give_v to_o all_o tender_a conscience_n that_o hold_v not_o principle_n destructive_a to_o the_o fundamental_o of_o government_n for_o sure_o if_o any_o opinion_n be_v destructive_a to_o such_o fundamental_o those_o of_o the_o say_v roman-catholic_n or_o of_o such_o roman-catholic_n i_o mean_v as_o hold_v they_o must_v be_v of_o necessity_n let_v any_o one_o therefore_o judge_v now_o with_o what_o sincerity_n or_o knowledge_n or_o truth_n the_o foresay_a internuncio_n hierom_n de_fw-fr vecchiis_fw-la write_v as_o you_o have_v see_v to_o father_n bonaventure_n brodin_n that_o the_o valesian_n formulary_a be_v it_o which_o may_v do_v more_o hurt_v and_o mischief_n to_o the_o church_n of_o god_n than_o all_o the_o foreacted_a persecution_n of_o heretic_n and_o judge_v you_o reader_n who_o he_o understand_v here_o by_o heretic_n what_o by_o the_o church_n of_o god_n what_o by_o hurt_n or_o mischief_n or_o ruin_n to_o that_o church_n but_o bless_a be_v god_n we_o be_v not_o so_o mad_a yet_o as_o to_o confine_v the_o church_n of_o god_n to_o the_o wall_n of_o rome_n or_o papal_a and_o cardinalitial_a consistory_n or_o to_o the_o small_a number_n of_o man_n wherever_o diffuse_v that_o either_o out_o of_o ambitious_a flattery_n or_o cowardly_a fear_n or_o ignorance_n or_o other_o respect_n whatsoever_o maintain_v the_o papal_a usurpation_n over_o church_n or_o state_n assert_v they_o so_o in_o plain_a contradiction_n both_o to_o scripture_n tradition_n father_n canon_n and_o practice_n too_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o not_o only_o to_o natural_a reason_n nor_o yet_o so_o mad_a as_o to_o think_v that_o whatever_o hurt_v annoy_n or_o ruin_v the_o wicked_a usurpation_n or_o unjust_a worldly_a emolument_n of_o such_o man_n must_v be_v esteem_v any_o way_n true_o hurtful_a to_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o not_o rather_o on_o the_o other_o side_n both_o high_o and_o true_o advantageous_a and_o profitable_a nor_o further_o yet_o so_o mad_a as_o to_o hold_v all_o those_o for_o heretic_n who_o the_o roman_a minister_n tribunal_n or_o even_o many_o of_o their_o pope_n even_o or_o also_o boniface_n the_o viii_o himself_o hold_v for_o such_o no_o nor_o yet_o so_o mad_a as_o to_o esteem_v that_o to_o have_v be_v a_o persecution_n in_o the_o bad_a sense_n of_o this_o word_n which_o be_v a_o just_a prosecution_n of_o so_o many_o emissary_n send_v heretofore_o from_o rome_n of_o mere_a and_o set_a purpose_n to_o overthrow_v both_o king_n and_o kingdom_n here_o by_o plot_v and_o raise_v or_o endeavour_v to_o raise_v even_o bloody_a horrid_a rebellion_n of_o subject_n against_o both_o that_o i_o may_v say_v nothing_o now_o of_o the_o invasion_n of_o eighty_o eight_o against_o queen_n elizabeth_n or_o the_o powder-plot_n treason_n after_o against_o king_n james_n and_o both_o his_o house_n of_o parliament_n or_o of_o the_o late_a rebellion_n in_o ireland_n in_o our_o own_o day_n and_o year_n 1641._o nor_o final_o so_o mad_a as_o to_o account_v the_o remonstrant_n a_o sect_n in_o the_o bad_a sense_n of_o this_o word_n albeit_o the_o vecchiis_n will_v fain_o have_v they_o repute_v such_o not_o only_o by_o nickname_v they_o valesian_n but_o also_o by_o join_v they_o in_o a_o comparative_a manner_n with_o those_o he_o express_o call_v heretic_n for_o certain_o it_o be_v mere_a madness_n either_o of_o blind_a ignorance_n or_o extreme_a malice_n that_o shall_v make_v any_o to_o esteem_v the_o teacher_n of_o fidelity_n and_o obedience_n in_o all_o temporal_a thing_n to_o a_o lawful_a king_n of_o what_o religion_n soever_o to_o be_v therefore_o a_o sect_n in_o the_o bad_a sense_n of_o this_o word_n although_o in_o the_o etymological_a sense_n generical_o take_v or_o in_o any_o innocent_a thereof_o and_o in_o opposition_n to_o the_o present_a roman_a court_n its_o partisan_n in_o the_o grand_a controversy_n and_o in_o that_o or_o like_o good_a sense_n consequent_o whether_o generical_a or_o specifical_a wherein_o st._n paul_n confess_v himself_o to_o be_v of_o the_o sect_n of_o pharisee_n in_o the_o point_n of_o resurrection_n the_o remonstrant_n confess_v themselves_o a_o sect_n and_o glory_n in_o be_v so_o but_o the_o internuncio_n gain_v nothing_o hereby_o if_o not_o that_o himself_o and_o his_o associate_n how_o great_a or_o numerous_a soever_o be_v real_o in_o the_o worst_a sense_n
the_o kingdom_n and_o no_o demonstration_n can_v be_v make_v how_o the_o kingdom_n can_v be_v preserve_v under_o our_o government_n that_o then_o the_o say_a declaration_n shall_v be_v publish_v it_o be_v further_a express_v in_o the_o say_a order_n that_o we_o be_v solicit_v to_o the_o effect_n aforesaid_a with_o urgent_a reason_n absolute_o deny_v to_o consent_v thereunto_o and_o that_o we_o neither_o do_v nor_o can_v demonstrate_v unto_o they_o any_o way_n of_o preserve_v the_o remainder_n of_o the_o kingdom_n under_o our_o government_n and_o therefore_o according_a to_o the_o trust_v repose_v in_o they_o by_o the_o say_a congregation_n they_o do_v publish_v the_o say_a declaration_n denounce_v to_o all_o archbishop_n bishop_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v all_o we_o observe_v in_o this_o order_n of_o publication_n more_o than_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o declaration_n at_o jamestown_n what_o we_o have_v to_o answer_v in_o this_o order_n for_o publication_n be_v brief_o this_o they_o hold_v it_o fit_a we_o shall_v quit_v the_o kingdom_n and_o depute_v the_o king_n authority_n with_o some_o person_n or_o person_n of_o trust_n that_o be_v please_v to_o they_o we_o refuse_v so_o to_o do_v upon_o their_o advice_n give_v they_o some_o reason_n why_o we_o refuse_v and_o promise_v they_o more_o if_o they_o will_v at_o a_o free_a conference_n hear_v they_o for_o not_o follow_v this_o advice_n without_o refute_v the_o reason_n we_o give_v for_o our_o not_o go_v and_o without_o hear_v or_o so_o much_o as_o ask_v what_o other_o reason_n those_o be_v which_o we_o be_v unwilling_a to_o write_v and_o yet_o will_v tell_v they_o at_o a_o free_a conference_n by_o which_o caution_n they_o may_v imagine_v they_o be_v of_o moment_n they_o procee_v to_o their_o declaration_n and_o excommunication_n here_o though_o we_o have_v former_o touch_v it_o let_v it_o be_v observe_v that_o have_v several_a time_n and_o upon_o several_a occasion_n offer_v to_o leave_v the_o kingdom_n and_o to_o depute_v the_o king_n authority_n not_o to_o disparage_v the_o nation_n with_o the_o only_a person_n in_o all_o respect_v fit_a for_o it_o and_o a_o roman-catholick_n this_o be_v not_o accept_v of_o but_o we_o be_v make_v believe_v the_o lord_n of_o inchiquin_n be_v remove_v from_o any_o charge_n of_o the_o army_n and_o the_o protestant_a party_n go_v there_o remain_v no_o further_a distrust_n or_o dislike_v of_o we_o and_o that_o then_o all_o obedience_n will_v be_v give_v us._n all_o this_o and_o whatever_o else_o they_o advise_v be_v do_v on_o our_o part_n our_o frigate_n which_o lie_v in_o ire-connaught_n whence_o we_o may_v have_v secure_o go_v be_v send_v away_o and_o the_o harbour_v block_v up_o by_o the_o rebel_n ship_n they_o impose_v upon_o we_o to_o effect_v a_o impossibility_n namely_o to_o go_v out_o of_o the_o kingdom_n without_o mean_n of_o transportation_n or_o else_o as_o far_o in_o they_o lie_v we_o be_v render_v infamous_a throughout_o the_o world_n and_o to_o all_o age_n by_o their_o defamatory_n libel_n whatever_o our_o demerit_n have_v be_v and_o if_o we_o be_v the_o faithless_a the_o negligent_a the_o every_o way_n unworthy_a person_n they_o have_v describe_v we_o to_o be_v certain_o they_o can_v free_v themselves_o from_o the_o guilt_n of_o so_o mean_a and_o base_a a_o treachery_n let_v it_o be_v next_o consider_v that_o if_o when_o a_o company_n of_o bishop_n or_o a_o congregation_n of_o archbishop_n bishop_n &c_n &c_n have_v a_o mind_n to_o set_v up_o themselves_o or_o any_o other_o as_o governor_n over_o the_o kingdom_n and_o this_o power_n they_o assume_v at_o least_o in_o the_o interval_n of_o assembly_n and_o have_v now_o twice_o practise_v it_o and_o the_o governor_n appoint_v by_o royal_a authority_n or_o when_o that_o be_v absent_a which_o shall_v never_o be_v suppose_v by_o a_o just_a representative_a of_o the_o nation_n will_v not_o give_v they_o room_n by_o quit_v the_o government_n he_o be_v place_v in_o at_o their_o desire_n without_o direction_n from_o the_o power_n whence_o he_o derive_v his_o authority_n or_o without_o unavoidable_a necessity_n enforce_v he_o if_o we_o say_v for_o his_o not_o do_v a_o thing_n so_o contrary_a to_o the_o trust_v repose_v in_o he_o to_o the_o sense_n of_o those_o entrust_v by_o the_o people_n as_o the_o commissioner_n of_o trust_n be_v and_o contrary_a to_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o most_o interest_v person_n of_o the_o kingdom_n the_o foresay_a company_n of_o bishop_n or_o congregation_n may_v therefore_o with_o impunity_n deliver_v all_o man_n to_o satan_n that_o shall_v feed_v help_v or_o adhere_v to_o he_o it_o be_v in_o this_o case_n easy_a to_o discover_v that_o bishop_n or_o a_o congregation_n thus_o do_v do_v aim_n at_o and_o will_v if_o so_o permit_v easy_o compass_v the_o supreme_a temporal_a power_n if_o it_o be_v say_v they_o only_o do_v it_o upon_o evident_a necessity_n for_o the_o preservation_n of_o the_o people_n in_o apparent_a hazard_n of_o be_v lose_v and_o that_o in_o this_o case_n only_o of_o so_o absolute_a necessity_n they_o pretend_v to_o such_o power_n and_z when_o inform_v or_o convince_v will_v lay_v it_o down_o to_o the_o king_n or_o assembly_n we_o believe_v no_o king_n or_o state_n careful_a of_o their_o own_o preservation_n will_v allow_v they_o have_v this_o power_n even_o in_o this_o case_n for_o instance_n if_o the_o bishop_n or_o congregation_n of_o both_o clergy_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o naples_n or_o of_o any_o signiory_n under_o the_o state_n of_o venice_n shall_v pretend_v to_o a_o power_n upon_o any_o necessity_n whatsoever_o whereof_o the_o say_v bishop_n and_o congregation_n to_o be_v judge_n of_o discharge_v the_o subject_n of_o the_o king_n of_o spain_n from_o obey_v the_o viceroy_n of_o naples_n or_o the_o subject_n of_o any_o signiory_n under_o the_o state_n of_o venice_n from_o obey_v the_o governor_n of_o any_o such_o signiory_n appoint_v by_o the_o state_n direct_v they_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n to_o observe_v and_o obey_v such_o form_n of_o government_n as_o the_o say_a congregation_n shall_v prescribe_v till_o it_o shall_v be_v otherwise_o order_v by_o the_o say_a king_n or_o state_n we_o suppose_v it_o will_v not_o pass_v for_o orthodox_n doctrine_n in_o that_o roman-catholick_n kingdom_n or_o state_n that_o a_o congregation_n be_v qualify_v with_o such_o power_n nor_o will_v the_o necessity_n of_o their_o so_o do_v nor_o yet_o the_o sanctity_n of_o their_o function_n or_o person_n protect_v they_o from_o severe_a punishment_n that_o our_o king_n prerogative_n in_o that_o particular_a be_v as_o great_a in_o this_o kingdom_n as_o the_o king_n of_o spain_n in_o naples_n or_o that_o of_o the_o state_n of_o venice_n in_o any_o signiory_n of_o they_o it_o be_v treason_n to_o deny_v as_o it_o be_v to_o affirm_v that_o in_o this_o particular_a such_o a_o congregation_n here_o have_v more_o authority_n than_o a_o like_a congregation_n in_o that_o kingdom_n or_o state_n but_o these_o man_n have_v not_o only_o in_o this_o case_n exceed_v whatever_o at_o any_o time_n or_o in_o any_o place_n be_v pretend_v to_o by_o any_o of_o their_o function_n but_o have_v less_o ground_n if_o less_o may_v be_v for_o such_o a_o pretention_n than_o any_o other_o for_o here_o in_o a_o solemn_a assembly_n of_o the_o nation_n a_o peace_n be_v conclude_v most_o of_o the_o bishop_n sign_v this_o declaration_n be_v actual_o there_o consent_v to_o the_o peace_n and_o all_o the_o congregation_n either_o at_o or_o after_o the_o conclusion_n of_o the_o peace_n subscribe_v to_o it_o so_o that_o by_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o the_o congregation_n first_o or_o last_o thomas_z lord_z viscount_n dillon_n donnogh_n lord_n viscount_n muskery_n &c_n &c_n be_v to_o look_v to_o the_o performance_n of_o the_o article_n of_o peace_n and_o thereby_o have_v great_a pretence_n to_o be_v proper_a judge_n of_o the_o violation_n of_o the_o say_a article_n than_o this_o congregation_n yet_o without_o consult_v they_o they_o publish_v this_o declaration_n and_o fulminate_v their_o excommunication_n against_o any_o that_o shall_v adhere_v to_o we_o among_o other_o thing_n for_o pretend_a violation_n of_o the_o peace_n and_o will_v not_o by_o the_o say_a commissioner_n be_v persuade_v to_o retract_v it_o where_o they_o say_v we_o neither_o do_v nor_o can_v demonstrate_v unto_o they_o any_o way_n of_o preserve_v the_o remainder_n of_o the_o kingdom_n under_o our_o government_n it_o be_v a_o question_n never_o ask_v of_o we_o either_o by_o the_o bishop_n of_o dromore_n and_o dr._n charles_n kelly_n who_o bring_v we_o the_o message_n or_o by_o the_o bishop_n of_o cork_n and_o clonfert_n that_o be_v send_v to_o we_o for_o our_o answer_n or_o indeed_o by_o any_o other_o if_o such_o a_o question_n have_v be_v move_v to_o we_o we_o shall_v doubtless_o have_v answer_v that_o the_o most_o probable_a
and_o we_o iv_o they_o propose_v that_o a_o union_n can_v be_v have_v or_o preserve_v for_o preservation_n of_o the_o nation_n without_o keep_v the_o king_n authority_n among_o we_o for_o that_o many_o of_o those_o considerable_a will_n instant_o make_v their_o condition_n with_o the_o enemy_n the_o king_n authority_n be_v take_v away_o and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o hope_n of_o leave_v that_o authority_n with_o we_o but_o by_o revoke_v the_o excommunication_n and_o the_o declaration_n for_o it_o will_v not_o be_v leave_v by_o the_o lord_n lieutenant_n or_o undergo_v by_o clanricard_n but_o on_o those_o term_n whether_o there_o be_v ground_n for_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o commissioner_n deliver_v in_o and_o upon_o these_o head_n we_o leave_v to_o themselves_o to_o make_v good_a and_o to_o the_o event_n that_o shall_v follow_v the_o refusal_n of_o the_o prelate_n to_o hearken_v or_o assent_v to_o the_o proposal_n of_o the_o say_a commissioner_n but_o find_v that_o in_o the_o reason_n give_v by_o the_o say_a prelate_n for_o their_o refusal_n and_o in_o the_o advice_n they_o give_v for_o the_o union_n and_o preservation_n of_o the_o nation_n they_o have_v repeat_v some_o of_o those_o thing_n wherewith_o we_o be_v former_o unjust_o charge_v by_o they_o and_o have_v frame_v new_a objection_n against_o we_o we_o shall_v take_v a_o particular_a view_n of_o each_o of_o they_o and_o as_o far_o forth_o as_o we_o conceive_v ourselves_o concern_v shall_v give_v answer_n to_o they_o though_o we_o have_v reason_n to_o hope_n that_o if_o the_o offer_v we_o make_v shall_v not_o meet_v with_o the_o success_n we_o desire_v that_o yet_o so_o affectionate_a a_o manifestation_n of_o our_o love_n to_o the_o nation_n transport_v we_o to_o a_o overture_n of_o reconciliation_n with_o those_o that_o have_v so_o much_o injure_v we_o will_v not_o have_v give_v ground_n for_o repeat_v of_o old_a and_o cast_v new_a aspersion_n upon_o us._n answer_n of_o the_o committee_n to_o the_o proposal_n of_o the_o commissioner_n before_o recite_v first_o article_n the_o abovementioned_a letter_n be_v read_v contain_v his_o excellency_n undertake_v for_o assert_v the_o peace_n and_o his_o demand_n of_o two_o prouiso_n to_o that_o end_n where_o we_o observe_v his_o excellency_n inform_v his_o majesty_n of_o certain_a disobedience_n and_o affront_n put_v upon_o the_o king_n authority_n and_o consequent_o suggest_a matter_n to_o his_o majesty_n of_o make_v his_o declaration_n against_o the_o peace_n answer_n we_o have_v in_o our_o answer_n 115._o answer_n answer_n pag._n 115._o to_o the_o 11_o article_n of_o their_o declaration_n answer_v to_o this_o introduction_n and_o our_o letter_n out_o of_o which_o they_o make_v this_o collection_n be_v but_o new_o recite_v pag._n recite_v recite_v pag._n to_o which_o we_o refer_v they_o second_o article_n we_o have_v peruse_v the_o king_n be_v declaration_n disavow_v of_o the_o late_a peace_n and_o be_v of_o opinion_n for_o aught_o to_o we_o appear_v that_o the_o king_n have_v thereby_o withdraw_v his_o commission_n and_o authority_n from_o the_o lord_n lieutenant_n this_o be_v clear_o prove_v out_o of_o a_o branch_n of_o the_o say_a declaration_n take_v away_o and_o null_v all_o commission_n grant_v by_o he_o in_o that_o declaration_n the_o king_n will_v have_v no_o friend_n but_o the_o friend_n of_o the_o covenant_n hence_o it_o be_v evident_o infer_v that_o his_o majesty_n authority_n be_v take_v away_o from_o the_o lord_n lieutenant_n unless_o he_o be_v a_o friend_n to_o the_o covenant_n as_o we_o conceive_v he_o be_v not_o but_o if_o he_o be_v he_o be_v not_o our_o friend_n nor_o to_o be_v trust_v by_o we_o in_o have_v authority_n over_o we_o in_o the_o same_o declaration_n the_o irish_a nation_n as_o bloody_a rebel_n be_v cast_v from_o the_o protection_n of_o the_o king_n law_n and_o royal_a favour_n it_o may_v not_o therefore_o be_v presume_v that_o he_o will_v have_v his_o authority_n keep_v over_o such_o a_o nation_n to_o govern_v they_o we_o do_v join_v with_o you_o in_o that_o you_o represent_v to_o wit_n there_o be_v no_o safety_n to_o be_v expect_v from_o covenanter_n or_o independent_o for_o the_o catholic_n religion_n or_o this_o nation_n if_o that_o of_o the_o peace_n be_v prove_v the_o only_a safety_n we_o be_v for_o it_o however_o we_o conceive_v the_o benefit_n thereof_o be_v due_a to_o we_o have_v make_v no_o breach_n of_o our_o part_n answer_n here_o they_o ready_o declare_v their_o opinion_n concern_v his_o majesty_n have_v recall_v our_o commission_n and_o take_v pain_n to_o prove_v it_o by_o a_o unavoidable_a dilemma_n or_o that_o at_o least_o we_o be_v not_o their_o friend_n nor_o to_o be_v trust_v by_o they_o and_o by_o another_o strong_a argument_n they_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v his_o majesty_n will_v not_o have_v his_o authority_n at_o all_o keep_v over_o this_o nation_n when_o by_o this_o mean_v they_o have_v as_o they_o think_v show_v it_o impossible_a that_o the_o peace_n can_v be_v continue_v which_o they_o know_v it_o can_v without_o the_o continuance_n of_o the_o king_n authority_n than_o they_o say_v if_o the_o peace_n be_v prove_v the_o only_a safety_n they_o be_v for_o it_o and_o that_o however_o they_o conceive_v the_o benefit_n thereof_o be_v due_a to_o they_o have_v make_v no_o breach_n on_o their_o part_n if_o they_o will_v make_v it_o their_o business_n to_o seek_v for_o argument_n to_o keep_v the_o king_n authority_n over_o they_o they_o may_v perhaps_o find_v many_o and_o these_o as_o convince_a as_o those_o they_o have_v find_v to_o dispute_v it_o out_o of_o the_o kingdom_n as_o the_o conclusion_n and_o ratification_n of_o the_o peace_n here_o by_o virtue_n of_o his_o authority_n precedent_n to_o the_o declaration_n seem_v to_o annul_v it_o the_o certainty_n that_o he_o be_v in_o a_o free_a condition_n when_o he_o give_v the_o say_a authority_n and_o ratify_v the_o peace_n conclude_v by_o it_o and_o the_o question_n that_o may_v be_v make_v whether_o he_o be_v so_o when_o he_o declare_v against_o it_o and_o last_o that_o by_o the_o article_n of_o peace_n he_o be_v oblige_v to_o continue_v his_o authority_n here_o from_o which_o obligation_n no_o declaration_n at_o least_o importune_v from_o he_o by_o his_o subject_n of_o scotland_n can_v free_v he_o or_o take_v from_o this_o nation_n who_o have_v no_o dependence_n on_o scotland_n the_o benefit_n of_o the_o agreement_n make_v by_o his_o majesty_n with_o they_o upon_o these_o ground_n it_o be_v that_o until_o his_o majesty_n have_v be_v full_o inform_v in_o all_o that_o have_v pass_v here_o and_o declare_v his_o free_a sense_n upon_o it_o we_o offer_v to_o justify_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o conclude_v the_o peace_n and_o the_o continue_a validity_n of_o it_o to_o those_o that_o have_v not_o forfeit_v their_o interest_n in_o it_o if_o we_o may_v have_v have_v the_o concurrence_n of_o these_o bishop_n and_o obedience_n in_o the_o place_n by_o the_o strength_n and_o mean_n whereof_o it_o may_v have_v be_v justify_v and_o sure_o this_o be_v a_o offer_n not_o merit_v the_o scorn_n and_o bitterness_n wherewith_o it_o be_v reject_v if_o they_o that_o contrive_v this_o paper_n have_v make_v no_o breach_n of_o the_o peace_n on_o their_o part_n we_o have_v lose_v much_o labour_n in_o the_o forepast_a discourse_n but_o we_o believe_v we_o have_v prove_v they_o have_v make_v many_o and_o those_o the_o high_a it_o be_v possible_a to_o make_v and_o sure_o they_o must_v be_v very_o partial_a on_o their_o own_o side_n if_o they_o think_v the_o benefit_n of_o a_o thing_n they_o reject_v be_v due_a to_o they_o three_o article_n something_o of_o our_o sense_n concern_v what_o way_n may_v tend_v best_a to_o the_o nation_n preservation_n we_o will_v say_v beneath_o and_o do_v offer_v our_o clear_a intention_n before_o god_n to_o join_v with_o you_o and_o all_o man_n in_o what_o will_v be_v find_v the_o best_a and_o safe_a way_n to_o such_o preservation_n answer_n this_o be_v only_o a_o profession_n which_o require_v no_o answer_n from_o us._n four_o article_n we_o be_v of_o opinion_n and_o do_v ever_o think_v all_o our_o endeavour_n shall_v be_v employ_v to_o keep_v the_o king_n authority_n over_o we_o but_o when_o his_o majesty_n throw_v away_o the_o nation_n from_o his_o protection_n as_o rebel_n withdraw_v his_o own_o authority_n we_o can_v understand_v this_o mystery_n of_o preserve_v the_o same_o with_o we_o and_o over_o we_o or_o how_o it_o may_v be_v do_v whereas_o you_o say_v that_o many_o of_o those_o considerable_a will_v instant_o make_v their_o condition_n with_o the_o enemy_n if_o the_o king_n be_v authority_n be_v take_v away_o by_o himself_o as_o by_o his_o declaration_n it_o be_v and_o not_o drive_v away_o by_o the_o subject_a in_o such_o case_n when_o the_o people_n may_v not_o hold_v it_o likely_a they_o
be_v bind_v to_o stand_v or_o conform_v always_o or_o in_o all_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a or_o even_o in_o any_o at_o all_o pure_o such_o to_o the_o sole_a decision_n make_v by_o the_o secular_a power_n of_o what_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v in_o point_n of_o divine_a faith_n or_o of_o what_o be_v to_o be_v act_v in_o point_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n they_o err_v most_o gross_o in_o this_o as_o they_o do_v in_o so_o many_o other_o tenet_n in_o other_o matter_n and_o yet_o all_o side_n must_v confess_v that_o in_o such_o cause_n or_o in_o such_o manner_n ecclesiastic_n be_v no_o more_o exempt_a from_o the_o civil_a power_n then_o mere_a layman_n for_o both_o equal_o have_v the_o same_o doctor_n and_o judge_n of_o their_o faith_n and_o of_o their_o conscientious_a or_o lawful_a act_n in_o relation_n to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n or_o christianity_n as_o both_o have_v the_o same_o supreme_a civil_a judge_n of_o temporal_a corporal_a and_o civil_a coercion_n lxxi_o behold_v reader_n in_o these_o eight_o last_o section_n which_o be_v from_o lxiii_o to_o lxx_o both_o inclusive_o take_v the_o particular_a proof_n or_o particular_a reason_n of_o the_o procurator_n defiance_n to_o the_o divine_n of_o louvain_n by_o his_o first_o general_a reason_n for_o his_o second_o answer_n give_v lxii_o section_n to_o the_o four_o ground_n of_o the_o louvain_n censure_n for_o albeit_o as_o he_o note_v before_o in_o that_o lxii_o section_n he_o need_v not_o have_v give_v that_o second_o answer_n to_o the_o say_v four_o ground_n of_o the_o louvain_n divine_v the_o first_o answer_n which_o he_o create_v at_o length_n in_o the_o lxi_o section_n immediate_o forego_v have_v sufficient_o destroy_v this_o four_o pretence_n of_o the_o lovanian_o to_o wit_n their_o charge_v the_o remonstrance_n of_o 61._o and_o consequent_o all_o clergieman_n subscriber_n of_o it_o with_o renounce_v or_o disclaim_v in_o ecclesiastical_a exemption_n yet_o he_o will_v ex_fw-la superabundanti_fw-la give_v that_o very_o second_o answer_n you_o have_v see_v in_o the_o say_v lxii_o section_n videlicet_fw-la that_o grant_v the_o remonstrance_n have_v &c._n &c._n even_o formal_o and_o by_o express_a word_n declare_v against_o all_o pretence_n whatsoever_o of_o any_o such_o thing_n as_o ecclesiastical_a immunity_n on_o exemption_n of_o the_o person_n of_o clergieman_n from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a or_o temporal_a coercive_a power_n of_o the_o prince_n or_o magistrate_n provide_v still_o it_o do_v not_o declare_v as_o very_o it_o do_v not_o against_o that_o which_o be_v indeed_o the_o real_a true_a and_o well_o ground_a exemption_n of_o clergieman_n from_o inferior_a civil_a judicatories_n according_a to_o the_o respective_a civil_a law_n or_o custom_n of_o several_a kingdom_n and_o as_o far_o as_o the_o respective_a law_n or_o custom_n do_v allow_v such_o exemption_n from_o such_o inferior_a judicatory_n yet_o neither_o the_o divine_n of_o louvain_n nor_o any_o other_o can_v just_o censure_v it_o therefore_o and_o the_o procuratour_n will_v also_o give_v this_o second_o answer_n of_o mere_a purpose_n to_o dilate_v himself_o at_o large_a and_o at_o full_a on_o this_o subject_n of_o ecclesiastical_a exemption_n and_o to_o ravel_v the_o whole_a intrigue_n of_o such_o tenet_n and_o argument_n in_o this_o matter_n which_o have_v so_o often_o occasion_n so_o much_o trouble_v &_o confusion_n in_o christendom_n which_o be_v the_o reason_n too_o that_o of_o mere_a set_v purpose_n also_o he_o give_v those_o two_o general_a reason_n in_o the_o above_o lxii_o for_o this_o second_o answer_n of_o which_o two_o general_a reason_n the_o first_o be_v that_o he_o defy_v those_o of_o louvain_n or_o any_o other_o divine_a or_o canonist_n in_o the_o world_n to_o show_v any_o law_n divine_a either_o positive_a or_o natural_a or_o any_o law_n humane_a either_o civil_a or_o ecclesiastical_a for_o such_o exemption_n or_o which_o be_v the_o same_o thing_n to_o show_v any_o one_o text_n of_o holy_a scripture_n or_o any_o one_o tenet_n of_o apostolical_a tradition_n or_o any_o canon_n at_o all_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n or_o even_o as_o much_o as_o any_o kind_n of_o passage_n out_o of_o the_o civil_a law_n of_o emperor_n nay_o as_o much_o as_o any_o one_o convint_a or_o even_o probable_a argument_n of_o natural_a reason_n to_o prove_v power_n in_o the_o pope_n or_o church_n to_o exempt_a clergieman_n from_o the_o cognizance_n and_o coercion_n of_o the_o supreme_a evil_a prince_n or_o law_n under_o which_o they_o live_v as_o citizen_n or_o subject_n or_o literal_a at_o least_o repute_a citizen_n or_o subject_n and_o the_o selfsame_a purpose_n of_o ravel_v that_o whole_a intrigue_n be_v the_o cause_n he_o spend_v so_o much_o time_n and_o take_v so_o much_o pa●●●●●ther_o too_o in_o eight_o long_a section_n to_o descend_v to_o and_o give_v so_o many_o particular_a proof_n of_o the_o reasonableness_n of_o this_o defiance_n by_o answer_v for_o full_o and_o clear_o as_o he_o think_v he_o do_v all_o sort_n of_o argument_n hitherto_o allege_v by_o bellarmine_n or_o any_o other_o against_o that_o second_o answer_n or_o against_o the_o subjection_n of_o clerk_n to_o the_o supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n of_o prince_n or_o which_o be_v the_o same_o thing_n allege_v for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n from_o this_o power_n but_o forasmuch_o as_o the_o procuratour_n not_o only_o so_o defy_v the_o divine_n of_o louvain_n by_o that_o his_o first_o general_a reason_n for_o his_o second_o answer_n to_o their_o four_o ground_n but_o also_o by_o his_o second_o general_a reason_n for_o the_o same_o second_o answer_n confident_o say_v &_o write_v lxii_o section_n that_o on_o the_o contrary_n he_o dare_v undertake_v against_o the_o divine_n of_o louvain_n to_o prove_v there_o be_v no_o such_o exemption_n nor_o can_v be_v and_o with_o much_o evidence_n to_o prove_v this_o even_a by_o clear_a express_a text_n of_o holy_a scripture_n in_o that_o sense_n the_o holy_a father_n general_o understand_v such_o text_n even_o for_o a_o whole_a thousand_o of_o year_n i_o therefore_o now_o proceed_v to_o those_o particular_a proof_n also_o of_o this_o second_o part_n or_o of_o this_o so_o confident_a undertake_n whereby_o the_o procuratour_n in_o his_o discourse_n of_o that_o remonstrance_n more_o direct_o assume_v when_o occasion_n require_v the_o person_n of_o a_o assailant_n as_o in_o the_o former_a he_o do_v that_o chief_o of_o a_o defendant_n and_o because_o these_o particular_a proof_n or_o reason_n give_v by_o he_o for_o this_o second_o part_n and_o the_o confutation_n of_o bellarmine_n reply_n to_o some_o of_o they_o for_o some_o also_o there_o be_v which_o either_o bellarmine_n see_v not_o or_o if_o he_o see_v they_o do_v neither_o well_n or_o ill_a reply_n unto_o will_v take_v up_o some_o few_o sheet_n more_o i_o will_v observe_v the_o same_o method_n i_o have_v hitherto_o in_o answer_v bellarmine_n argument_n for_o his_o own_o assertion_n that_o be_v will_v treat_v they_o in_o several_a section_n apart_o for_o the_o reader_n more_o easy_a find_n and_o understand_v what_o i_o will_v be_v at_o for_o my_o next_o section_n which_o be_v in_o order_n the_o lxxii_o shall_v give_v my_o first_o three_o argument_n whereof_o two_o be_v out_o of_o bellarmine_n own_o concession_n as_o i_o show_v also_o by_o further_a argument_n that_o in_o point_n of_o either_o theological_a or_o philosophical_a reason_n such_o concession_n and_o even_o as_o infer_v my_o conclusion_n must_v be_v make_v by_o he_o and_o all_o other_o man_n that_o will_v speak_v according_a to_o natural_a reason_n or_o christian_a religion_n and_o the_o three_o argument_n i_o take_v to_o be_v a_o general_a maxim_n grant_v by_o all_o statist_n canonist_n philosopher_n divine_n nay_o by_o all_o man_n on_o earth_n though_o bellarmine_n have_v not_o a_o word_n of_o it_o but_o tranfient_o answer_v it_o as_o ridiculous_o my_o lxxiii_o section_n give_v at_o large_a the_o four_o argument_n which_o be_v pure_o theological_a and_o be_v that_o ground_v on_o the_o 13._o to_o the_o roman_n according_a to_o the_o general_a and_o unanimous_a exposition_n of_o that_o passage_n by_o the_o holy_a father_n until_o the_o age_n of_o gregory_n the_o seven_o my_o lxxiv_o immediate_o follow_v shall_v give_v some_o instance_n of_o their_o practice_n according_a to_o this_o their_o doctrine_n and_o some_o canon_n too_o of_o pope_n and_o council_n and_o my_o lxxv_o some_o few_o remain_a objection_n and_o answer_n to_o they_o but_o my_o lxxvi_o and_o last_o of_o all_o on_o this_o subject_n of_o ecclesiastical_a exemption_n or_o as_o relate_v to_o it_o or_o to_o the_o four_o ground_n of_o the_o louvain_n censure_n shall_v infer_v my_o final_a conclusion_n out_o of_o all_o that_o be_v out_o of_o these_o next_o follow_v five_o and_o out_o of_o the_o former_a eight_o section_n &_o shall_v withal_o consider_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o word_n sacrilege_n &_o of_o these_o