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A19142 A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D. Burgesse his rejoinder for D. Morton The first part Ames, William, 1576-1633. 1633 (1633) STC 555; ESTC S100154 485,880 929

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be_v in_o scripture_n enjoin_v in_o which_o ground_n three_o error_n be_v contain_v here_o may_v a_o great_a difference_n be_v observe_v betwixt_o the_o rej._n his_o translation_n and_o suarez_n his_o word_n especial_o in_o that_o for_o those_o word_n th●y_o think_v it_o unlawful_a to_o worship_n god_n with_o any_o other_o worship_n than_o be_v in_o scripture_n prescribe_v the_o rej._n give_v these_o they_o hold_v nothing_o to_o be_v lawful_a in_o god_n service_n but_o what_o be_v command_v in_o scripture_n for_o many_o thing_n be_v lawful_a in_o god_n service_n which_o be_v not_o worship_n as_o civil_a circumstance_n etc._n etc._n 5._o after_o those_o three_o error_n the_o rej._n abserve_v suarez_n to_o speak_v of_o some_o that_o dissalow_v not_o ceremony_n in_o general_a but_o impugn_v the_o ceremony_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o vain_a and_o superstitious_a these_o no_o doubt_n add_v the_o rej_n be_v the_o protestant_n to_o who_o he_o impute_v there_o
alike_o detestable_a they_o be_v not_o alike_o to_o be_v detest_v and_o abandon_v have_v no_o degree_n but_o 1._o the_o substance_n of_o this_o assertion_n be_v wont_a to_o be_v account_v no_o monster_n for_o d._n fulke_o rejoynder_n to_o bristol_n pag._n 288._o make_v open_a profession_n of_o it_o not_o only_o in_o his_o own_o name_n but_o of_o other_o divine_n this_o we_o say_v that_o popish_a image_n although_o they_o be_v not_o the_o same_o that_o be_v the_o image_n of_o the_o heathen_a yet_o they_o be_v as_o abominable_a idol_n as_o they_o and_o the_o worship_v of_o they_o as_o much_o to_o be_v abhor_v of_o all_o true_a christian_n as_o the_o worship_v of_o the_o image_n of_o the_o gentile_n 2._o when_o the_o replier_n speak_v of_o like_a detestation_n he_o do_v not_o mean_a to_o aequal_a the_o balance_n unto_o a_o hair_n or_o hal●e_v a_o ace_n but_o according_a to_o usual_a speech_n herb_n hot_a in_o the_o four_o degree_n be_v say_v to_o be_v alike_o hot_a though_o there_o may_v be_v find_v some_o difference_n wilful_a disobedience_n be_v say_v to_o be_v as_o the_o sin_n of_o witchcraft_n and_o stubbernesse_n as_o idolatry_n 1._o sam._n 15._o yet_o there_o may_v some_o difference_n of_o degree_n be_v find_v betwixt_o these_o sin_n monster_n therefore_o here_o be_v too_o excessive_a a_o word_n 3._o abandon_v i_o take_v to_o be_v all_o one_o with_o put_v or_o cast_v away_o and_o one_o thing_n may_v be_v cast_v into_o the_o bottom_n of_o a_o pond_n when_o another_o be_v cast_v into_o the_o bottom_n of_o the_o sea_n it_o have_v therefore_o degree_n to_o the_o replier_n assertion_n that_o we_o be_v by_o the_o scripture_n warn_v to_o fly_v as_o well_o and_o as_o far_o from_o popish_a as_o from_o paganish_a idolatry_n the_o rejoynder_n with_o some_o litigation_n about_o rev._n 18_o consent_v but_o add_v that_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o fly_v from_o every_o human_a he_o shall_v have_v add_v unnecessary_a ceremony_n which_o either_o papist_n or_o pagan_n have_v idolatrous_o abuse_v now_o this_o be_v the_o main_a quaestion_n of_o this_o whole_a chapter_n and_o therefore_o not_o here_o to_o be_v discuss_v only_o this_o the_o defender_n in_o this_o section_n sound_v himself_o upon_o a_o disparity_n betwixt_o popish_a and_o paganish_a idolatry_n seem_v to_o grant_v that_o if_o they_o be_v aequal_a than_o we_o be_v to_o fly_v from_o the_o ceremony_n abuse_v in_o popish_a idolatry_n and_o this_o grant_v the_o rejoynder_n do_v not_o well_o to_o recall_v the_o reply_o not_o be_v willing_a to_o spend_v time_n about_o the_o comparison_n betwixt_o popish_a and_o paganish_a idolatry_n refer_v the_o defendant_n to_o the_o abridgement_n and_o m_o r._n parker_n hereupon_o the_o rejoynder_n take_v upon_o he_o to_o answer_v what_o be_v find_v in_o they_o about_o this_o comparison_n in_o which_o discourse_n because_o many_o thing_n before_o answer_v be_v repeat_v to_o ease_v myself_o and_o the_o reader_n of_o tedious_a labour_n i_o will_v only_o note_v the_o main_a ground_n of_o his_o answer_n pertain_v direct_o to_o that_o comparison_n and_o then_o set_v down_o some_o plain_a testimony_n of_o our_o divine_n about_o it_o because_o he_o partly_o deni_v and_o partly_o shift_v off_o m_o r._n parker_n quotation_n his_o principal_a ground_n of_o answer_n be_v that_o the_o papist_n do_v not_o sin_n against_o the_o first_o commandment_n in_o worship_v a_o false_a god_n but_o against_o the_o second_o only_a in_o worship_v the_o true_a god_n in_o a_o fa●se_a manner_n this_o he_o produce_v pag._n 618_o as_o doctor_n ames_n his_o judgement_n invocamus_fw-la gentes_fw-la in_o idolis_fw-la creaturas_fw-la celeb●nts_n ●●dem_fw-la se●e_fw-la modo_fw-la que_fw-la pontifici_fw-la s●c_fw-la enim_fw-la respondent_fw-la apud_fw-la aug_n in_o psal._n 9●_n non_fw-la colimus_fw-la lapidem_fw-la non_fw-la mala_fw-la daemonia_fw-la angelos_n quos_fw-la dicitis_fw-la i●sos_fw-la &_o nos_fw-la c●limus_fw-la virtutes_fw-la dei_fw-la magni_fw-la ministeria_fw-la dei_fw-la magni_fw-la et_fw-la maximus_fw-la madan●ensis_fw-la apud_fw-la cunde●_n aug_n ep._n 43._o ecquidem_fw-la unum_fw-la esse_fw-la deum_fw-la quis_fw-la tam_fw-la dement_fw-la tam_fw-la ment_fw-la captus_fw-la ut_fw-la neget_fw-la esse_fw-la certissimum_fw-la hu●us_fw-la nos_fw-la virtutes_fw-la ●er_n mundanum_fw-la opus_fw-la diffusas_fw-la multis_fw-la vocabulu_fw-fr invocamus_fw-la this_o he_o repeat_v pag._n 624._o and_o 630._o but_o this_o be_v not_o so_o for_o the_o wise_a of_o the_o heathen_a know_v well_o that_o there_o be_v bat_n one_o true_a god_n creator_n of_o all_o thing_n and_o the_o rude_a of_o the_o papist_n worship_v creature_n more_o devout_o as_o divine_a object_n than_o those_o heathen_a be_v wont_a to_o do_v the_o case_n be_v plain_a and_o plentiful_o confirm_v by_o our_o divine_n in_o every_o dispute_n against_o popish_a idolatry_n doctor_n ames_n have_v not_o one_o word_n to_o the_o contrary_a but_o this_o he_o have_v for_o it_o bellar._n encru._n ●om_n 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