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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A66719	The chasing the young quaking harlot out of the city, or, A turning the Quakers dark side into the light wherein is plainly discovered a twofold design against the publick peace, the one by their doctrine, the other by their sword : with an answer to E. B. Salvation to his brethren : the Quaker founded out of his lying trumpet : with seven special marks to know the quaking harlot from the other harlots : also certain queries sent to I. Lilburn, in order to prove his resurrection to be but a meer imagination, and quaking delusion : together with a certain rule to know whether the Quakers doctrine be a new dispensation of Gods, or a fiction out of a Quakers brain / by Thomas Winterton.	Winterton, Thomas.; Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662.	1656 (1656)	Wing W3092; ESTC R7741	12,637	19

Harlot defend her self in that way a all the wicke dest men in the world yea and the Devill too may do you may safely cry this is she this is shee 3. Her Presumption in that she attempts to share with the Almighty who doth all things according to the good pleasure of his will she claims the same Prerogative denying all other Rules to be guided by God therefore she that thus presumes this is shee 4. Notwithstanding she pretendeth to own the Scripture and speaketh much of Religion and yet holdeth nothing that is demonstrated either by matter form or effects without which all is but a notion and one of dece●●●●●t being but a noyse or as sounding Brasse or a thinkling Cymball therefore when you see a Harlot that prates much of Religion and holds nothing at all you may truly cry this is s●e 5. Her attendance the ignorant and the lewd the one she insnares by her pretended fear and novelties the other are her volenteers the which come willingly in the day of their redemption for the vices will now be turned into vertues that it will be scandall now to blame them if they will but say they believe for she hath no rule to try whether they believe or no therefore when you see a Harlot attended with fools and knaves you may cry this is she this is she 6. Her kindred and that is the Ranters are her elder Sister whose Doctrines though they are in severall terms yet are they both of one nature and lead both to one and the same end the which is to turn the World into a Chaos the one by denying propriety the other by allowing every on to walk according to their own light and dictate of their own spirit 7. She is the youngest of all Harlots surely she is little a bove five year old yet pretend her self to be exceedingly acquainted with the Almighty and highest in his favour and contemneth all others as not worthy to take notice of his glory and notwithstanding the tenderness of her years she hath fulfilled more of the Scripture in relation to pride and haughty presumptuou high mindedness then any ever was before her therefore when you see a Harlot so far beyond comparison in youth and impudence you may cry this is she this is she John Lilburn I Conceive you have left your Titles behind you in your Grave as loathsom I shall not therefore raise them to annoy you but acquaint you that by taking some view of your Resurrection was filled with more wonder then I could procure patience to withhold me from this attempt namely to crave your answer to 13. Queries to the which if you please to give a plain and direct answer I am perswaded that it will produce a discovery of your errors or my ignorance And for as much as I am of belief that God never requireth any thing of man but what he giveth out demonstrable either by matter form or effect to their outward sences because whatsoever is not so demonstrable is not capable of discourse but is as a noise or a sounding Brasse and tinckling Cymball wherein is no distinction of parts a mane essentiall difference between Man and Beast wherefore that our discourse may not be vain if you answer my Queries keep this center or shew the unsufficiency of it or be silent 1. Whether if it be not lawful to presuppose things that are not to find out the truth of things that are and if so then 2. Whether there had been any need of Christs comming in the flesh if Adam had stood in his created estate 3. Whether Christ restored to Believers any more then Adam lost 4. Whether there be any ground to believe that any in this life have more communion with God or are more pure or perfect then Adam was in Paradise 5. Whether Adam in Paradise did not partake of that light with which Christ lighteneth every one that comes into the World 6. Whether this light of Christ and all other light within man if any there be are not seated in the understanding and whether all mans surest light is not conveyed through the senses to the understanding And whether this will not more clearly appear if considered that the stopping of the Current of the senses the understanding becommeth totally dark as unto certainties it having nothing there to nourish it but Imagination 7. Whether it argueth not darkness in the understanding to determinate any thing reall or certain the which was not conveyed by the senses to the understanding 8. Whether for want of this consideration many have not been possessed with as strong a confidence of a certainty as all their Powers both of soul and body could procure yea to the laying down of their lives and yet a meer Imagination 9. Whether John Lilburn was not as confident that God owned 〈◊〉 in his Religion opposing the Powers of this Nation as Saul was in his ●●sign to Damascus and whether Sauls Conversion to a Christian and John Lilburn resolving to a Quaker be upon one and the same ground 10. Whether God did not convey this new light or dispensation to Sauls understanding through his senses in that it is said he heard and saw as a sure ground to build his faith upon and also whether he did not give him power and authority by signes and wonders to convey to the understanding of those to whom he was sent to convert a sure ground of faith also 11. Whether if John Lilburn have received the same ground of faith so conceived to his understanding immediately from God as Saul had or by some other whom God hath indued with Power and Authority to convey a ground of faith as Paul did then far be it from me for blaming of John Lilburn for being a Quaker otherwise Whether if he have not received the ground of faith aforesaid whether it be not easie to discern that John Lilburns Resurrection is but a meer Imagination or quaking delusion Now forasmuch as the Doctrine of the Quakers differeth more from the Doctrine of the Gospel namely faith and obedience then the Doctrine of the Gospel differeth from the Doctrine of the Law and so is as strange a dispensation to the world as either in its time Whether it be not easie to find out whether the Quakers Doctrine be a dispensation of God or a dispensation of mans will Whether if it be of God he will not take the same care for the divulging of it as he did of his former dispensations that is by such evidences as no false Minister could procure As when he commanded his Apostles to preach to the World and to baptize them that believed and to teach them to observe all things c Whither if they had gone barely with this Commission they could have laid a sure ground of faith or could have done any thing to have distinguished their Doctrine and Ministry from false Teachers teaching another Christ and therefore whether he did not command them to stay at Jerusalem till he had indued them with power to convey a sure ground of faith into the peoples understanding by signs and wonders which they did within the reach of the peoples senses the which no false Teacher could attain unto and therefore their God have so owned this new quaking dispensation as he did the former namely the Law and Gospel whether then of necessity it must not be of God But if this new ●●●●ing Doctrine be turned naked out into the World with nothing to 〈…〉 cover it but the outfa●●ing Tongue of men whose best abilities 〈…〉 ●●ch to no higher evidence whether then it be not clear that the Quakers Doctrine is none of Gods but by the will of men Yours Thomas Winterton FINIS

his words are these in the 37. page Make Warre in righteousness and prepare your selves to do his service let not your hands be slack neither be you sloathful in our Lords design but wound the head of your enemies and manage Warre against God and Magog throughout all Generations ride on and prosper and tread down the fenced Cities and enlarge your Dominion and let the Children of strangers of the Seed of Esau be your slaves and bond-men and fill the Earth with your presence And in the 39. page O Sion thou art prepared of thy God to beat the Mountains to dust thou art fitted for his service to thresh the Hills Make no tarrying but come away spread thy self into every corner of the Earth for the upright thirst for thee And in the 40. page for thy God hath given thee an Instrument with teeth to beat the Rocks to powder he is not wanting to thee in power and wisdom thou Son of his love give up give up to obey his voice and love not thy life unto death till the Seed of thy Inheritance and the blood of thy chosen be revenged upon the head of Jezabel who hath slain thy Elect in all Generations and nourished her self with the blood of the Innocent call upon thy God and awake him to revenge to smite and to slay thy adversaries and to consume their Habitation from off the Earth who have been too strong for thee why shouldest thou not come forth in the power of thy judgements to judge the Earth in righteousness and exalt thy name in glory Now for as much as I have not an infallible spirit infallibly to interpret what may be intended in these revengefull expressions notwithstanding my Imaginary faculty might find ground enough of bad consequence in them yet I shall leave them to better judgements and take the boldness to inquire 1. Whether Edward Burrough doth mean Gog and Magog mentioned in Scripture so far remote and unknown and the Sons of Esau so long agoe dead or whether he means those to whom he directs his Controversie specified in the said book the which is all those that opposeth Quaking 2. Whether Gog or Magog or the Turk or any Heathen could go much further in revengful expression then E. B. doth against those he intendeth in the said Book notwithstanding he hath formerly taught it was of the Devil and to condemnation 3. Whether Mahomet when he was of the Quakers age the which is under seven years was not as unlikely to be numerous as the Quakers are 4. Whether the Turk's people do not ignorantly believe that Mahomet was a true Prophet sent from God and what he spake was infallibly true and whether he did not promise all that would believe and obey him that they should have a glorious being after this life with many fair women and those that would hazard their lives for the inlargment of his Dominions should enjoy all his promises and whether this conceit did not so animate them that they feared no enterprise and whether this was not a great means of their prevailance 5. Whether if the Quakers should grow considerable in the so deluding the people that they should not trust their own understanding but wholly rely upon the infallibilities of these Teachers whether these people thus believing will not be more readie to obey them then to experiment the lawfulness of their command 6. Whether the Turks had not a better ground for their Faith that Mahomet was a true Prophet in that he did such things as none did as the Quakers in believing Naylor and Burrough that can do no more then every one can do except out-facing 7. Whether it be subsistent to the well-being of a Common-wealth to harbour such Opinions without security as shall directly lead to the disturbance thereof An Answer to Edward Burroughs Salutation to his Fellow-Quakers sounding out of his lying Trumpet O How hath Satan filled thy heart and with what power of imagination hath he possest thee that thou should'st thus exalt thy self like an Eagle as if thy nest were in the Stars Knowest thou not that the try umphing of the Wicked is short and the joy of the Hypocrite but for a moment And that the Lord hath a controversie with the proud look and the lying tongue of both thou art extreamly guilty as doth plainly appear in that thou condemneth all the people in the world to be all under the condemnation of the wrath of God and then proudly presumeth that thou and thy fraturnity the Quakers are the onely people the Lord delights in And thus thou makest the poor ignorant people glad with thy lyes the which thou tellest both against God and Man O thou proud presumptuous ambitious Quaker where is thy original or from whence was thou hewen but out of a haughty proud imagination thou art not yet seven years old and are thou the onely people of the whole Creation in the favour of the Almighty Had he no people before thou appearedst Or did he cast them all away to take the high presumptuous Quaker Sure the youngness of thy years maketh thy Impudence a miracle therefore woe be to them that live to see thee prosperous to a manly age Again from what Original dost thou draw thy Opinions for from the Scripture thou dost not for thou deniest the worship of the Scripture and the Faith of the Scriptures and the obedience First Thou deniest all matter and form of woship and where there is neither of these there neither is nor can be any manner of Worship Secondly You deny the Faith of all the Saints and people of God in the Scripture for James Naylor in the 62. pag of his Love to the Lost denies that to be the Faith of Christ that doth not set men free from sin while they liveth Now in the same page upon another occasion he citeth the 1 Cor. 15. and he saith the Apostle speaks plain words to that purpose now the same Apostle in the 7. of the Rom. from the 14. to the end of the Chapter-speaks as plain words to this purpose namely that when he writ that Epistle he had sin in him and yet at this time he was possessed of the Faith of Jesus Christ to salvation in as great a measure as any ever had is clearly proved in Scripture And 1 Joh. 1.8 as plainly saith If we say we have no sin we deceive our selves and there is no truth in us Thirdly Thou deniest the obedience of the Scripture in that thou deniest actual obedience yea and the authority of the Scripture too for whereas the authority of the Scripture both in the New and Old Testament is full of Laws Statutes and Command if there is no actuall obedience then they are but as common History therefore thou being opposite to the Scriptures Worship Faith and Obedience let us examine how they own thy Opinions 1. Where it can be proved that that Light whereby Christ lighteneth every one that comes