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A peaceable method for the re-uniting Protestants and Catholicks in matters of faith principally in the subject of the Holy Eucharist : proceeding upon principles agreed-on and waving points in dispute : upon occasion of the late conceit concerning the perpetuity of faith touching that great mystery / written in French by Lewis Mainbourg.
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Maimbourg, Louis, 1610-1686.; T. W.
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explication oâ— their Doctrine so fully as it was afterwards thought fitting to do and thâ— they did not judge it necessary to descend to all those particulars which were examined and looked into in afteâ— Ages It was possible also that the would not deduce all those particular sequels which were inclosed or shut up as it were in those Principles which they established as our Blessed Saviour himself had formerly dealt with theâ— It is also very likely that men oâ— of neglect not preserving those Truth in memory as they ought to have done they came insensibly to â—e forgotten or that whilest mens wits were wholly taken up in defending some part oâ— them against Hereticks who opposed them there was not so much heed taken of those others which never came into Controversy However it be this iâ— indubitably certain that a time there was when many things were not clearly and distinctly known nor at such time obligatory as to exercise of faith which the Church has since placed in the number of such things as are belonging to Faith For although all those things were comprehended in Holy Scripture and in the Doctrine of the Apostles and that there alwayes were the same marks to know them by yet they were not alwayes taken notice of with the same reflexion or application But now by occasion of Disputes which have been raised at certain times the Church having set her self to examine them legally and according to form and making reflexions upon Holy Scripture and looking back upon the neighbouring times of the Apostles making up by such means unto the Fountain-head of true Apostolical Tradition she has declared them to be of faith as being exactly conformable to the Rule of Belief 6. I do not say therefore what some haply of our Adversaries who are not so well acquainted with our Tenets may reproach me with that the Church has Authority to frame new Articles of Faith No I do acknowledge together with them that she cannot act but according to Rule which is the holy Scripture and Tradition truely and purely Apostolical from which also we have received the holy Scripture it self She holds forth nothing new but she proposes unto us Antiquity which we knew not before She does not give new birth to Scars which never were before but she makes them appear in that Instre which formerly they had done by removing those clouds which did obscure them She has no new revelations she onely publishes those antient ones of which we had no formeâ— assurance Finally she settles no other Principles but such as she receiveâ— from our Saviour himself out of which by force of her light and certain necessary sequels she makes those Veritieâ— appear which were hidden and as 〈◊〉 were Quid est Depositum Id est quod tibi creditum est non à te inventum quod acceptisti non quod excogitasti 〈◊〉 rem non ingenii sed doctrinae non usurpationiâ— privatae publicae traditionis rem ad te perductam non a te prolatam in quae â—on author debes esse sed custos non instituâ—or sed sectator non ducens sed sequens Comment 1. c. 27. shut up in those Principles This is that which Vincentius Lirineâ— sis expresses most admirably applying unto the Church those words of S. Paâ— to his Disciple Timothy Depositum câ—stodi keep well the Depositum which 〈◊〉 put into your hands What is the meaning of this Depositum saith he speaking of matters of Faith It is that which you are intrusted with and by no means that which your self have invented It is that which you have received and in no wise that which your self have found out it is not the result of your own Wit or understanding but it is what you learn from that Doctrine which has been taught you It is not any thing which you have established in the World by your own private Authority it is a Point of Tradition which you have been trusted with for the publick good It is a Treasure of which there was no Mine in your own Land You are not the Author â—ut the conserver of this Doctrine You are not here the Guide but he that follows the Guide What Guide The Word of God which is this Guide and the true Rule of Holy Church Vald. l. 2. Doct. fid c. 22. Can. l. 2. de Com. 7. à castro de Luâ— go valentia alii Videte quid dicat qui fuerunt non qui sunt ut exceptis Apostolis quodcunque aliud postèa dicetur abscindatur Hier. in Ps 86. All our Divines agree in this Doctrine which they have taken from the Holy Fathers For St. Hierome has it in exâ—ess terms upon the 86. Psalm where he Psalmist sayes that Our Lord will delare in Scriptures of People and of Prinoes and of those that have been in her He makes use sayes St. Hierome of a word signifying time past fuerunt that have been because we are to hold nothing for a Point of Faith in the Church but what we find in the Prophers and in the Apostles who are the Princes of the Church And upon this ground it is that St. Irenaeus and after him S. Augustine saith That the faith of our Ancestors and ours makes but one and the same Faith because we believe nothing at this day which was not contained in the whole Body of their Faith The Church therefore never did make Iren. l. 3. c. 2 lib. 4. c. 13 Aug. Ep. 51 and undoubtedly never will make any new Articles of Faith since it is not in her power to define any thing but according to the Word of God which she is alwayes to consult with as with her Oracle and the Rule she is bound to follow But there is no question also but upon occasion of Differences from time to time in mens judgements and opinions she has often declared for and defined some Points which were antecedently by some questioned and that without offence or at least were not known before unless in general and by a confused kind of knowledge There is nothing more certain nor more common in the History of the Church and Councils where you shall frequently see defined and proposed as a Point or Principle of Faith that which before Conteâ—â—s did arise and before that violent clashing which has been in almost every Age of the Church about some Point or other in Controversy which was neither defined nor so much as thought of For example concerning the authentickness of some Canonical Books concerning the validity of Baptisme conferred by Hereticks concerning one or two Wills and operations in our Blessed Saviour concerning the Procession of the Holy Ghost and many such like All which are now no more to be called in question although before the definition of the Church it might have been done without offence For if it be true that it belongs unto her to propose that as matter of Faith which was not before
task to oppose we know not what till we come to the Tryal or defend our selves against I cannot tell whom Lutheran Calvinist Anabaptist Independent c. till they are pleased to declare themselves and appoint us our Theme But that for which I am to commend and recommend this ensuing Discourse is that I think it equally and strongly convincing against all For if it be once made out as this Treatise endeavours to evince even by the consent of the whole Reformed Church it self that there must intervene some Supreme Authority which may exact an acquiescencie and withall are obliged to submit unto without further dispute there will quickly be discovered a ready way to put things into a better posture and particulars will find whereon to settle as in one Center that unlimitted variety of opining I beseech those who have a real kindnesse for their own Souls and any respect for those who were accounted great Persons even in their own way to reflect particularly upon what is mentioned in the second Chapter of this little Work concerning the Opinions of the Divines of all the Reformed Churches of Europe in this Point and especially upon what was delivered at the famous Synod of Dort by the Embassadour and by the Commission of the Great and VVise King King James That there was but one onely means which the Church had ever made use of to wit a National Synod which was to be Judge in the case and to decide which of the two Opinions was more conformable to the Word of God c. And conformably to this you will find how that wise King when soon after his coming into England the Puritans Dr. Reynolds Mr. Knewstabs c. began to shew themselves at a Conference in the Kings own Presence and Mr. Knewstabs in particular moving * Bakers Chronicle of the affairs of the Church in the Reign of K. James p. 445. How far an Ordinance of the Church was to bind men without impeachment of their Christian Liberty Being much moved made this short reply and told him he would not argue that Point with him but answer therein as Kings are wont to speak in Parliament Le Roy S' avistra And therefore I charge you said he never speak more to that Point how far you are bound to Obey when the Church has once ordained it By which earnest and wise Answer of his certainly he could intend nothing lesse but that the Ordinances and Decrees of the Church are so far obligatory as never to be questioned but to be religiously respected and admitted with an Ipso dixit This certainly must also be the meaning and import of those words in the twentyeth of the 39. Articles The Church hath power to Decree Rites or Ceremonies and Authority in Controversies of Faith c. For Power and Authority and Submission and Obedience are certainly correlatives If there be Power and Authority to enact Submission and Obedience are essential to performance Now by the Church here and in the foregoing Reply of King James if any thing was intended reducible to action and practice I imagine nothing can be meant but the Representative of the Church Archbishops Bishops and the Chief of the Clergy lawfully convened c. VVhich Representative as is very remarkable both in Queen Elizabeth's dayes Anno 1562. and in King James's Anno 1604 with the consent and allowance of the said King and Queen under the great Seal thought themselves so unquestionably impowered and authorised for that great VVork of framing certain Articles in order to an Uniformity of Doctrine in Religion as no man by their special and strict Command could be admitted to any part of the Ministry without consenting and subscribing thereunto VVhich was yet more strongly enforced upon all in general by those Excommunications ipso facto denounced against all dissenters in the Constitutions and Canons Ecclesiastical made Anno 1604. Not to mention those others who have nothing but Antichrist the Tyrannical Antichrist in their mouths when a Pope or Council is but mentioned and yet think it not unreasonable upon the Authority of a Convocation of some few Elders c. to oblige to their Tenets and Practices under pain of a stool of Repentance c. I know there are some who hold all these proceedings and practises very harsh and unreasonable whose spirits will not easily yield but will make bold to argue the case with Kings or Councils Parliaments or Prelates or any thing which agrees not with their private and particular Principles And they will tell you very colourably as they imagine that as their Soul is their own and as they must stand or fall to themselves so are they to make choice of their own faith and Religion and not to pin it upon another mans sleeve I should somthing wonder to bear an Objection of this nature from any one who pretends to Learning But because I know there are some who make plausible flourishes upon it and think by this means to cast off all Authority and become their own free choosers and Masters without controle and consequently will slight the chief grounds of this Discourse fitted principally for persons of better Principles I must needs in a word shew them that if they design any thing of reason and not all wilfulness and presumption in their proceedings they must needs find another Point to steer their course by And yet Gentlemen thus far I will keep you company that your Soul is your own under the great Giver of it and that you must stand or fall to your selves But I fear you have never been at any of the Universities or not minded the businesse your Parents intended by the charge they were at if you think this good Logick Ergo you are to choose your own Faith in that sence which is and must be intended by you if you think to evade what will here come in against you For your meaning if at all to your purpose can be no other but that because your Soul is your own and you your self and no body else are to give an account of your stewardship and your improving of it therefore you are to make up a Faith which indeed is the Ground of all subsequent action according to your own fancy and understanding And yet I cannot believe but you will acknowledge that you are to take some Guide along with you that you are to follow some Rule in this business of so important a concern You will never own I am sure of it that it shall be meer fancy that you are resolveâ— to rely upon A Guide then you must have A Rule you must follow An you sure in a business of so great importance as is the salvation of your Soul that you have a faithful Guide a direct Rule Do you follow the one close dâ— you apply the other right Here theâ— you see unexpectedly perehance thaâ— your Guide your Rule your use or application of them may be questioned Bâ— you will