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&_o not_o unto_o the_o magistrate_n themselves_o although_o they_o be_v godly_a order_n at_o this_o day_n because_o in_o the_o reform_a church_n there_o be_v no_o metropolitanes_n especial_o in_o the_o french_a church_n that_o cure_n pertain_v to_o all_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o worde_n of_o god_n in_o every_o of_o the_o province_n who_o 〈◊〉_d letterâ—_n ought_v to_o admonish_v and_o stir_v up_o one_o a_o other_o authority_n except_o that_o by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o brethren_n that_o care_n of_o call_v together_o a_o synod_n be_v special_o commit_v to_o any_o man_n of_o the_o church_n of_o that_o region_n or_o province_n here_o he_o again_o tell_v what_o be_v the_o ancient_a authority_n oâ—_n metropolitanes_n or_o archbishop_n and_o although_o he_o do_v set_v down_o another_o order_n among_o the_o pastor_n howbeit_o not_o to_o be_v allow_v neither_o but_o by_o the_o godly_a magistrate_n if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o 〈…〉_o metropolitan_a yet_o the_o reason_n that_o he_o 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the_o jew_n return_v from_o their_o exile_n in_o babylon_n the_o censure_n or_o controllment_n of_o manner_n and_o of_o doctrine_n be_v commit_v unto_o a_o choose_a council_n 28._o which_o they_o call_v sinhedrim_a in_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o counsel_n session_n or_o assembly_n of_o senator_n or_o judge_n this_o government_n be_v lawful_a and_o approve_a of_o god_n and_o this_o be_v a_o bridle_n to_o retain_v in_o do_v their_o duty_n the_o froward_a and_o such_o as_o will_v not_o be_v teach_v if_o any_o shall_v except_v that_o in_o the_o age_n of_o christ_n all_o thing_n be_v corrupt_v and_o pervert_v insomuch_o that_o nothing_o ought_v less_o to_o have_v be_v account_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n 18_o than_o that_o tyranny_n the_o answer_n be_v easy_a although_o the_o manner_n be_v
mat._n â—_o in_o the_o name_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o judgement_n another_o be_v call_v the_o little_a synedrium_fw-la consist_v of_o 23._o 23._o judge_n wherein_o the_o great_a and_o the_o capital_a cause_n be_v hear_v it_o be_v think_v that_o christ_n mat._n 5._o name_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hâ—_n tâ—at_a â—aith_n to_o his_o brother_n racha_n sâ—albe_n guilty_a of_o a_o counsel_n or_o of_o the_o synodrion_n the_o three_o be_v the_o great_a synedrium_fw-la or_o sâ—nate_a of_o 70._o 70._o senior_n ordain_v of_o moses_n num._n 11._o over_o which_o sit_v the_o high_a b._n and_o the_o elder_n excel_v in_o wisdom_n virtue_n learning_n and_o authority_n choose_v out_o of_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n and_o of_o every_o tribe_n be_v the_o assistant_n or_o sitter_n with_o he_o unto_o who_o afterward_o by_o the_o ordinance_n of_o david_n the_o chief_a of_o the_o royal_a â—ooke_n which_o weâ—e_v call_v 〈◊〉_d â—â—at_o be_v the_o king_n brother_n &_o â—arrâ—â—ttiuâ—_n 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o relation_n in_o the_o text_n between_o the_o ordeiner_n &_o the_o people_n to_o who_o they_o ordain_v the_o elder_n the_o etymology_n of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o example_n of_o timothy_n caluin_n act_n 14.23_o the_o assign_v of_o the_o pastor_n to_o the_o several_a church_n perteyn_v to_o paul_n &_o barnabas_n the_o people_n assent_n debar_v not_o the_o choose_n and_o ordain_v from_o the_o apostle_n 1._o tim._n 4.14_o our_o brethren_n other_o example_n our_o brethren_n here_o make_v timothy_n a_o example_n of_o pastor_n supply_v of_o the_o pastor_n room_n though_o other_o in_o the_o eldership_n lay_v hand_n on_o timothy_n with_o paul_n yet_o may_v he_o be_v the_o only_a choser_n of_o he_o the_o learned_a disc_n pag._n 12â—_n the_o governor_n deal_v in_o election_n bridges_n our_o brethren_n exclude_v of_o their_o governor_n from_o deal_v in_o these_o matter_n except_o they_o be_v pastor_n the_o synod_n find_v fit_a pastor_n 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this_o devise_n of_o sir_n john_n lack_n latin_n sir_n johns_n not_o satisfy_v the_o act_n
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