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A31440 Independencie a great schism proved against Dr. Owen, his apology in his tract of schism : as also an appendix to the former discourse, shewing the inconstancy of the Dr. and the inconsistency of his former and present opinions / by D. Cawdrey ... Cawdrey, Daniel, 1588-1664. 1657 (1657) Wing C1630; ESTC R8915 103,968 258

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use_v his_o own_o word_n let_v the_o breach_n of_o union_n in_o the_o church_n be_v account_v if_o you_o please_v schism_n or_o a_o crime_n for_o be_v a_o evil_a i_o shall_v not_o contend_v by_o what_o name_n or_o title_n it_o be_v distinguish_v p._n 81._o but_o he_o wave_v the_o question_n whether_o that_o separation_n of_o the_o donatist_n from_o all_o other_o church_n may_v be_v call_v a_o schism_n and_o take_v it_o for_o grant_v they_o and_o himself_o be_v free_a from_o that_o charge_n for_o so_o he_o say_v 167._o p._n 167._o how_o little_o we_o be_v at_o this_o day_n in_o any_o contest_v that_o be_v manage_v among_o we_o concern_v in_o those_o difference_n of_o they_o those_o few_o consideration_n afore_o will_v evince_v it_o be_v true_a indeed_o in_o our_o separation_n from_o rome_n the_o instance_n of_o the_o donatist_n be_v very_o impertinent_a as_o in_o other_o respect_n so_o in_o this_o that_o they_o separate_v from_o the_o true_o catholic_n church_n we_o from_o the_o idolatrous_a corrupt_a particular_a church_n of_o rome_n false_o call_v catholic_a but_o it_o concern_v he_o and_o his_o party_n near_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o separation_n from_o all_o true_a protestant_a church_n agree_v as_o they_o do_v in_o the_o principle_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o donatist_n the_o question_n than_o be_v unresolved_a whether_o their_o and_o his_o separation_n may_v just_o be_v call_v schism_n all_o he_o say_v be_v this_o we_o be_v thus_o come_v off_o from_o this_o part_n of_o our_o charge_n of_o schism_n for_o the_o relinquishment_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n 168._o p._n 168._o which_o as_o we_o have_v not_o do_v so_o to_o do_v be_v not_o schism_n but_o a_o sin_n of_o another_o nature_n and_o importance_n the_o ground_n he_o go_v upon_o why_o separation_n from_o a_o true_a church_n be_v no_o schism_n be_v that_o afore_o that_o schism_n in_o the_o scripture_n notion_n be_v only_o a_o division_n of_o judgement_n in_o a_o particular_a assembly_n not_o a_o separation_n from_o any_o church_n which_o if_o it_o be_v true_a as_o it_o be_v prove_v false_a above_o as_o it_o will_v free_v protestant_n from_o that_o charge_n by_o papist_n with_o ease_n so_o it_o will_v acquit_v himself_o and_o all_o sectary_n in_o the_o world_n from_o the_o crime_n of_o schism_n that_o the_o principle_n and_o principal_a plea_n of_o romanist_n that_o they_o be_v the_o catholic_n church_n out_o of_o who_o communion_n there_o be_v no_o salvation_n as_o the_o donatist_n be_v of_o old_a be_v and_o in_o schismatical_a be_v and_o be_v the_o common_a vote_n of_o almost_o all_o ancient_n and_o modern_a divine_n and_o if_o it_o be_v true_a which_o his_o party_n assent_v to_o that_o their_o church_n be_v only_o right_o constitute_v and_o other_o church_n and_o minister_n be_v false_a or_o none_o as_o they_o do_v also_o assert_v they_o be_v equal_o guilty_a of_o that_o schismatical_a principle_n that_o they_o be_v the_o only_a not_o catholic_n particular_a church_n out_o of_o who_o communion_n there_o be_v ordinary_o no_o salvation_n this_o very_a principle_n in_o the_o donatist_n first_o and_o then_o in_o the_o romanist_n have_v be_v the_o ground_n of_o all_o those_o sad_a difference_n among_o the_o church_n along_o time_n and_o of_o the_o trouble_n that_o have_v issue_v thence_o and_o to_o make_v difference_n in_o a_o church_n and_o ●_z &_o thereupon_o to_o separate_v be_v acknowledge_v or_o prove_v to_o be_v schism_n then_o the_o raise_n of_o the_o like_a difference_n and_o persist_v to_o maintain_v they_o upon_o the_o very_a same_o principle_n as_o the_o only_a true_a church_n how_o it_o can_v be_v exempt_v from_o schism_n i_o be_o to_o learn_v §_o 5_o that_o i_o be_v not_o mistake_v in_o the_o ground_n he_o go_v upon_o to_o free_v the_o donatist_n of_o old_a and_o protestant_n together_o with_o himself_o from_o the_o charge_n of_o schism_n be_v his_o own_o notion_n and_o definition_n of_o schism_n will_v now_o appear_v in_o his_o own_o answer_n to_o the_o romanist_n argument_n which_o he_o rather_o insist_o upon_o than_o upon_o the_o solution_n of_o our_o learned_a divine_n page_n 192._o he_o take_v schismin_n the_o notion_n and_o sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n precise_o that_o be_v for_o division_n only_o in_o a_o particular_a church_n 193._o pag._n 193._o and_o thereupon_o deny_v 1._o that_o there_o can_v be_v any_o separation_n from_o the_o catholic_a invisible_a church_n or_o if_o there_o can_v it_o will_v be_v madness_n to_o call_v it_o schism_n 2._o nor_o from_o the_o catholic_a visible_a because_o the_o forsake_v its_o communion_n which_o consist_v in_o profession_n of_o the_o same_o faith_n be_v not_o schism_n but_o apostasy_n 3._o nor_o from_o a_o particular_a church_n for_o that_o be_v not_o proper_o schism_n for_o so_o he_o say_v 1._o i_o deny_v that_o separation_n from_o a_o particular_a church_n as_o such_o as_o mere_o separation_n be_v schism_n or_o aught_o to_o be_v so_o esteem_v though_o perhaps_o such_o separation_n may_v proceed_v from_o schism_n and_o attend_v with_o other_o evil_n but_o this_o mistake_v the_o question_n for_o the_o romanist_n themselves_o do_v not_o mean_v that_o every_o separation_n from_o any_o church_n be_v schism_n as_o such_o but_o a_o causeless_a separation_n from_o the_o true_a catholic_a church_n which_o they_o suppose_v themselves_o to_o be_v and_o so_o some_o and_o most_o of_o we_o do_v state_n it_o as_o he_o observe_v page_n 191._o s_o 48._o and_o so_o they_o fall_v upon_o the_o idolatry_n heresy_n &c_n &c_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o just_a cau●es_n of_o separation_n from_o she_o which_o plea_n say_v he_o will_v not_o be_v shake_v to_o eternity_n 2._o he_o affirm_v that_o separation_n however_o upon_o just_a cause_n 194._o p._n 194._o from_o any_o church_n be_v no_o schism_n this_o as_o it_o be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o former_a in_o ●ense_n so_o be_v by_o none_o deny_v this_o be_v grant_v by_o all_o person_n schism_n be_v causeless_a say_v all_o man_n however_o concern_v separation_n upon_o a_o just_a cause_n be_v a_o duty_n and_o therefore_o can_v be_v schism_n which_o be_v always_o a_o sin_n hence_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o needlesse_o deny_v their_o major_a proposition_n be_v right_o understand_v in_o their_o sense_n who_o propound_v it_o and_o our_o divine_n do_v better_a to_o deny_v the_o minor_a we_o have_v neither_o voluntary_o nor_o causelesse_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o his_o answer_n be_v another_o thing_n separation_n in_o the_o sense_n contend_v about_o 194._o p._n 194._o must_v be_v from_o some_o state_n and_o condition_n of_o christ_n institution_n 195_o pag._n 195_o a_o church_n of_o his_o appointment_n otherwise_o it_o will_v not_o be_v plead_v that_o it_o be_v schism_n at_o least_o not_o in_o a_o gospel_n sense_n the_o sum_n be_v this_o schism_n be_v a_o separation_n from_o a_o church_n of_o christ_n institution_n but_o our_o separation_n from_o rome_n be_v not_o from_o a_o church_n of_o christ_n institution_n therefore_o it_o be_v no_o schism_n and_o though_o it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o national_a hierarchicall_a church_n of_o rome_n the_o papal_a and_o patriarchall_a church_n be_v not_o a_o church_n of_o christ_n institution_n yet_o the_o bottom_n of_o his_o argument_n lie_v here_o that_o schism_n in_o the_o scripture_n notion_n be_v only_o find_v in_o a_o particular_a church_n which_o must_v serve_v he_o for_o more_o use_n than_o one_o as_o we_o shall_v hear_v anon_o and_o thence_o he_o infer_v that_o separation_n either_o of_o one_o church_n from_o another_o or_o of_o person_n from_o a_o church_n upon_o any_o occasion_n true_a or_o false_a what_o ever_o it_o be_v it_o be_v no_o schism_n which_o be_v speak_v to_o above_z and_o will_v come_v again_o §_o 6_o but_o that_o there_o may_v be_v schism_n beside_o that_o in_o a_o particular_a church_n i_o prove_v by_o a_o double_a argument_n ex_fw-la confessis_fw-la 1._o schism_n be_v a_o breach_n of_o union_n but_o there_o may_v be_v a_o breach_n of_o union_n in_o the_o catholic_n visible_a church_n 2._o where_o there_o be_v difference_n raise_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n profess_a wherein_o the_o union_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n consist_v there_o may_v be_v a_o breach_n of_o union_n but_o there_o may_v be_v difference_n in_o the_o catholic_n or_o among_o the_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n profess_v ergo_fw-la i_o suppose_v his_o answer_n will_v be_v that_o the_o forsake_v of_o its_o communion_n which_o consist_v in_o the_o profession_n of_o faith_n be_v not_o schism_n but_o apostasy_n p._n 193._o s_o 52._o but_o that_o be_v not_o always_o so_o for_o both_o there_o may_v be_v difference_n in_o the_o faith_n and_o yet_o no_o apostasy_n or_o if_o there_o be_v apostasy_n it_o may_v be_v a_o schism_n also_o apostate_n