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A19142 A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D. Burgesse his rejoinder for D. Morton The first part Ames, William, 1576-1633. 1633 (1633) STC 555; ESTC S100154 485,880 929

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2.238_o the_o gentile_n worship_v the_o creature_n in_o idol_n after_o the_o same_o manner_n almost_o that_o the_o papist_n do_v for_o so_o they_o answer_v upon_o august_n in_o psalm_n 96._o we_o do_v not_o worship_v a_o stone_n nor_o deu●ls_n who_o you_o call_v angel_n do_v we_o worship_v the_o ●_z of_o the_o great_a god_n and_o his_o ministery_n and_o maximus_n madaurensis_fw-la in_o the_o same_o aug._n 43._o ep_n certain_o who_o be_v mad_a or_o void_a of_o sense_n that_o ●e_n will_v once_o doubt_v whether_o there_o be_v more_o god_n then_o one_o now_o we_o invocate_v the_o virtue_n of_o this_o one_o god_n under_o many_o name_n diffuse_v through_o the_o frame_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n another_o ground_n of_o the_o rejoinder_n be_v that_o the_o popish_a idolatry_n may_v be_v in_o some_o respect_n as_o great_a a_o sin_n but_o not_o simple_o so_o great_a idolatry_n pag._n 622._o etc._n etc._n to_o which_o i_o answer_v brief_o that_o there_o be_v such_o sin_n accompany_v popish_a idolatry_n as_o make_v it_o as_o detestable_a as_o if_o it_o be_v one_o simple_o as_o for_o example_n the_o worst_a of_o the_o heathen_n idolatry_n be_v that_o they_o sacrifice_v man_n unto_o their_o idol_n and_o the_o papist_n burn_v of_o so_o many_o godly_a martyr_n for_o the_o maintenance_n and_o promote_a of_o their_o idolatry_n may_v be_v equal_v thereto_o in_o horror_n of_o sin_n the_o three_o ground_n which_o the_o rejoynder_n build_v on_o be_v that_o ahab'_v baal_n be_v worse_o than_o aaron_n or_o jeroboam'_v calf_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 629._o about_o this_o calvin_n shall_v answer_v hom._n 1._o de_fw-fr fug_n idol_n extitisset_fw-la quaemvis_fw-la istis_fw-la concedam_fw-la dissimilem_fw-la diversamque_fw-la esse_fw-la rationam_fw-la idololatria_fw-la papistarum_fw-la atque_fw-la ejus_fw-la qua_fw-la apud_fw-la veteres_fw-la gentiles_n viguii_fw-la negare_fw-la tamen_fw-la non_fw-la poterunt_fw-la deum_fw-la non_fw-la minus_fw-la severè_fw-la prohibuisse_fw-la cul●um_fw-la in_o bethel_n impi●_fw-la constitutum_fw-la quam_fw-la altas_fw-la superstitiones_fw-la omnes_fw-la quae_fw-la caeteris_fw-la in_o locis_fw-la institutae_fw-la celebrataeque_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la ego_fw-la vero_fw-la statuo_fw-la atque_fw-la ass●mo_fw-la eos_fw-la omnes_fw-la qui_fw-la deum_fw-la ve●e_fw-la metuunt_fw-la ac_fw-la piè_fw-la colu●t_fw-la eo_fw-la majore_fw-la at_o que_fw-la aoerbiore_fw-la odio_fw-la debere_fw-la &_o prosequi_fw-la &_o detestari_fw-la missam_fw-la quo_fw-la apertius_fw-la violat_a &_o prosanat_fw-la sanctam_fw-la institutionem_fw-la jesu_fw-la christi_fw-la quam_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la tam_fw-la opposita_fw-la contrariaque_fw-la ei_fw-la extitisset_fw-la although_o i_o yield_v that_o the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o gentile_n of_o old_a and_o of_o the_o papist_n now_o do_v differ_v yet_o they_o can_v deny_v that_o god_n do_v as_o severe_o forbid_v that_o wicked_a worship_n of_o bethel_n as_o all_o other_o superstition_n which_o be_v set_v up_o in_o other_o place_n but_o i_o say_v that_o all_o they_o who_o true_o fear_v and_o worship_n god_n aught_o with_o so_o much_o the_o more_o detestation_n and_o bitter_a hatred_n be_v against_o the_o mass_n by_o how_o much_o the_o more_o gross_o it_o violate_v and_o prophane_v the_o holy_a institution_n of_o christ_n then_o if_o it_o have_v not_o be_v so_o diademiter_o contrary_a to_o it_o calvin_n seem_v here_o to_o utter_v great_a monster_n than_o those_o be_v which_o the_o replier_n even_o now_o be_v accuse_v for_o unto_o calvin_n i_o will_v add_v the_o sentence_n of_o some_o other_o about_o the_o question_n because_o m_n r._n parker_n marginal_a quotation_n be_v not_o so_o easy_o find_v beza_n epist._n 1._o the_o papist_n have_v turn_v one_o sacrament_n into_o that_o horrible_a idolatry_n which_o be_v not_o hear_v of_o among_o the_o gentile_n finem_fw-la a●terum_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la ●ontifi●aj●n_fw-la horrend●m_fw-la ilam_fw-la idolomaniam_fw-la qua_fw-la ne_fw-la fando_fw-la quidem_fw-la inter_fw-la gentes_fw-la auditur_fw-la transformarunt_fw-la &_o ex_fw-la mensa_fw-la domini_fw-la mensam_fw-la damontorum_fw-la conflarunt_fw-la idem_fw-la beza_n adv_n baldwin_n fol._n 4_o ante_fw-la finem_fw-la quum_fw-la ab_fw-la artolat_a indicessero_fw-la nulla_fw-la