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A88838 An untaught teacher witnessed against. Or, The old bottles mouth opened, it's wine poured forth, drunk of drunkards, denyed of them who have tasted of the new. That is to say, the unsound, unseasoned, unsavory doctrines, and opinions of Matthew Caffyn, Baptist-teacher laid open, who in the county of Sussex, is cryed up to be as their battle axe, and weapon of warre, who as Jannes and Jambres rides aloft, and bestirs himself with the magick rod of his lies, slanders, aspersions, and unsound doctrines, labours to strengthen the hands of carnal professors, and to keep the beloved of God in bondage: ... Which doctrines, and unsavory speeches were received from his own mouth, part of them at a meeting of the people called Quakers, at Crowley in Sussex, others thereof at his own house neere South-water, before me and John Slee, upon the fifth day of the seventh moneth, 1655 ... / Tho: Lawson. John Slee. Lawson, Thomas, 1630-1691.; Slee, John. 1655 (1655) Wing L729; Thomason E854_12; ESTC R202688 20,795 30

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they had nothing but the letter when as he had not spoken to them such the Lord was against Jer. 23.30.31 32. this is thy example own it shuffle thy self from among these dreamers if thou can who knowes not the Crosse of Christ nor the tongue of the learned and hast got the words of the holy men of God into thy vain wily shifty peevish subtle crafty and untoward minde and there treasures them up and ministers them forth and uses thy tongue and tells of the assistance of the spirit 5. He said the means that leads to salvation is without man that is not dwelling in his mortal body I answer for all thy profession thou art got no further then the Pope who talks of a Christ without means of salvation without as thou dost but thou whose Religion and Kingdom is in words and in Lip-talk thou knows not neither what is the means that leads to salvation nor where the means is and thou art wallowing in filth and in the pollutions of the world so knowes not the word of salvation nor where it is hast thou not read in the Scripture that to them that are saved the preaching of the Crosse is the power of God 1 Cor. 1.18 if thou knew this Crosse what it is where it is what its operation is what it takes hold on what ground it strikes at and what it works out and what it lets in if this thou knew thou would not dream and imagine as thou dost Christ is the light of the world and lighteth every man that commeth into the world and from him light shines in darkness but darkness comprehends it not John 1.5.9 and this light is within and shews thee thy evil deeds and the pollutions thou lives in which if thou loved it that would lead thee to him that gave it even to Christ who hath given to every man a measure according to his ability which measure is in man and shews all wicked thoughts purposes and intentions that arise out of the heart of man and who loves it it leads to him who gave it out of evil to him alone who is the head of the Church the Saviour of the body in whom alone is salvation and not in any other name under Heaven this is the corner-stone who hath given a light a measure to every man that comes into the world John 1.9 Acts 4.10 11 12. t● is stone thou sets at naught who art a foolish builder seeking a way to salvation without thee so art out of the Doctrine of Christ who said go not forth when men cry lo here lo there Mat. 24. and grace in measure hath appeared unto all men which brings salvation Tit. 2.11 12. this grace in measure is in all men shewing evil as evil is intended in thy minde and him who loves it it teaches him to deny ungodliness so brings to salvation but thou and all who live in ungodliness and worldly lusts turns it into 〈…〉 so are of old ordained to condemnation Jude 4. 〈◊〉 that which may be known of God is manifest in man Rom. 1.19 it is in man that shews him evil and who love and obey it it leads out of evil and guides such into the knowledge of God to witness the salvation of God and from this thou art gone so in thy corrupt minde art pleading for means without to lead to salvation The Serpents meat is dust and for his meat he wrangles and pleads but the way of God is a way of holinesse which no unclean person no Lyon no ravenous Beast walks in Isay 35.8.9 but all unclean persons and ravenous Beasts can conform unto and imitate the practices of them who gave out the Scripture who were the ransomed of the Lord as thou dost and plead for that in which thou mayst live at ease so you deny Christ who hath given to every one a measure to lead to him who gives it and the Scripture in its place we own which testifies of Christ Jo 5.39.40 but to set it in the room of Christ we must not but are witnesses against you who deny him and set the Scripture in his place 6. He said God is one thing and his glory another thing as saith he my hand is one thing and this book in my hand is another thing I answer silence dreamer who would divide God and his glory and from God and his glory thou art seperated and God and his glory thy eye must not see but destruction who art an enemy to the Cross of Christ and thy minde is in earthly things tell of God and his glory and live in the pollutions of the world when as no uncleane thing dwells with him and it is Virgins that love him and all thy corrupt reasonings comparisons and arguings of God and his glory and for condemnation and that minde which calls God one thing and his glory another thing is accursed are from God and his glory thou art accursed who would divide God and his glory asunder 7. He said the Scripture hath in it the minde of God revealed so is a rule to guide men to Christ I answer holy men of God to them and in them was the minde of God revealed by the Spirit before the Scripture was written and his minde not any one comes unto but in whom the Spirit of God arises and rules as thou hast the Scripture which declares of the minde of God but his minde thou hast not but mindes earthly things saith Paul we have the minde of Christ 1 Cor. 2.16 and Phil. 2.5 let this minde be in you which was also in Christ Jesus none have the minde of Christ but them in whom Christ dwells though they may have the Scripture a declaration of his minde but conforming to the practises of the holy men of God in whom the minde of God was in the will of man this lets not in the minde of God but the crosse which shews the carnall minde which professes the Scripture and crucifies the carnall minde the same lets in the nature and the minde of Christ the Jews had the Scripture and covered themselves therewith but had not the minde of God but persecuted him whom the Father sent of whom the Father beares witness And thou saist the Scripture is a rule to guide men to Christ when as Christ himselfe said that none could come to him but as the Father drew him and every man that heard and learned of the Father came to him John 6.44.45 Here thy minde is contrary to the minde of Christ Christ said it is his Father that draws to him and thou saies it is the Scripture herein thou art Antichrist opposing Christ and his doctrine and here thou sets the Scripture in the seate of God saying the Scripture is a rule to guide to Christ when as the Scripture saith none comes to Christ except the Father draw him this and such like is the mist that thou keeps people in darkness withall but now thou art seen 8.
for he himselfe saith that he was made free from the law of sin and death before he tell of the righteousness of the law being fulfilled in him Rom. 8.1.2.3.4 and saith Paul I thorough the law which law hath power over a man so long as he lives and dead to the Law that I might live unto God Gal. 2.19 but neither Law nor Gospel thou knows who stumbles at seeing God and cryes out blasphemy when as Moses who received the perfect Law from God which is according to that of God in every ones conscience he saw God and till Moses death reigns there thou art And in as much as thou said that Paul said the righteousness of the Law was fulfilled in him and yet at the same time he was carnall sold under sin and found a Law in his Members warring against the Law of his minde leading him captive into sin and was a wretched man crying out who should deliver him from the body of death Rom. 7. I answer here another lie is found in thy mouth for he did not say the righteousness of the Law was fulfilled in him till the Law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus had made him free from the Law of sin and death Rom. 8.1.2 3 4 and he could not both be carnal led captive and have the body of death standing in him and yet be free from the body of sin and death all at one time this can in no wise be as thou would perswade people but whereas he speaks of himself being carnal sold under sin and led captive and the body of death not destroyed Rom. 7. here he declares unto them how it was with him in the time of his warfare Rom. 7.5 when we were in the flesh saith he then it was so and so then carnal but the Law spiritual then sold under sin then led captive then a wretched man then not delivered from the body of sin in the time of the Law it being weak through the flesh now here he declares to them what he had passed through and how it had been with him but at that time he saith he was delivered from the Law Rom. 7.6 so likewise from sin the Law being added because of transgressions and he at that time vvhen he vvrote unto the Romans an Epistle vvhich afterwards vvas turned into Chapter and verse by Tubal-Cain the cunning Artificer and Craft-man for the benefit of the Clergy vvhen this Epistle he vvrote he vvitnessed the power of God unto salvation Rom. 1.6 and the invvard Jew and circumcision inwardly Rom. 2.28 29. and that he vvas justified and had peace vvith God Rom. 5.1 and that the old man vvas crucified Rom. 6.6 and that they vvere not under the Lavv but under grace vvhich Lavv is because of transgressions Rom. 6.15 and that they vvere dead to the Lavv by the body of Christ Rom. 7.4 and none is dead to the Lavv but vvho is dead to sin his body sets none free from the Lavv but vvhom it sets free from sin and he saith he and they vvere delivered from the Lavv Rom. 7.6 so from sin because of vvhich the Lavv is added and he saith he vvas set free from sin and the righteousness of the Lavv vvas fulfilled in him Rom. 8.1.2 3 4. novv that he could vvitness these glorious conditions and grovvth in Christ Jesus and yet be carnal and fold under sin and led captive and groane under the body of death that I deny but it is the Doctrine of Matthew Caffyn vvho is a Baptist-Teacher so I leave it vvith him or any that ovvn him the same to prove and in Rom. 7.25 Paul said so then implying a condition and disposition which he had passed through then it was so and so and in the next verse he saith But now Rom. 8.1 therein he declares his present condition which was that he was set free from the Law of sin and death and the righteousness of the Law was fulfilled in him Rom. 8.1.2 3 4. Rom. 7.25 So then Who is not blind may see Rom. 8.1.2 But now Who hath an eare may heare To the 7th Chapter of Pauls Epistle to the Romans do all unsavory Professors Priests and people fly and unto it run as unto a Bulwark for a cover to continue in sin and corr●ption while they remain upon earth which will stand them in no stead so two Propositions shall I lay down and if the Devil in any profession or Matthew Caffyn be offended at what I have spoken concerning that Chapter which all Professions take hold on for a shelter for their iniquity let them appear in writing that truth may come to light and lies be searched out and not back-bite grumble and grudge and run up and down slandering and railing and crying out that we hold forth damnable Doctrines and Heresies But do not so that is not honest that is the nature of Night-birds and Screech-owls who scratch in the dark so Matthew Caffyn prove thy Doctrines else throw down thy Crowns and own that in thy Conscience which shews thee thy enmity against the truth the Lord is taking unto himself him great power even the Almighty who was is and is to come to reign over all and the Nations are angry and combine together against the Lord and against his anointed yet upon the holy hill of Sion will hee his Sonset the hill of God is as the hill of Bashan an high hill this is the hill in which God delights to dwell yea in it he will dwell for ever and all hills shall tremble before it even before his hill who is setting the solitary in families and bringing out those which are bound in Chains he is beating the wicked one out of all his Bulwarks and fenced walls and high Towers and in Israel doth God appoint for Walls and Bulwarks even salvation so make not lies your refuge and plead not for sin which is a wall of separation between God and man 1. That Paul was not carnall and sold under sin nor led captive into sin nor the body of death undelivered from which is made mention of Rom. 7. when he said the Law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus had made him free from the Law of sin and death Rom. 8.1 2 3 4. That at that time when Paul wrote to the Romans and spoke of being carnal and sold under sin c. Rom. 7. that he spoke not of his present condition but how it had been with him formerly in the time of his warfare which was then accomplished and the body of death put off and he set free from sin Rom. 8.1.2 3 4. 31. Matthew Caffyn said I spoke errour when I said no man did further witness the Scripture fulfilled in him than he was grown up in that spirit which gave it forth the same also I now say and prove it to be errour if thou can but the wise in heart will not take thy words for a Gospel-proof who hast uttered forth so many lies and did give me these words under thy own hand-writing That the Scripture doth so farre reveal God and Christ to a Creature as that he walking up to its Revelation to his lives end with a single heart shall be eternally saved I say thy Ministry teaches not singlenesse in the one spirit but thou would have all shroud themselves in thy Form to their lives end and in the deceit of the world and then tells them of being saved now he to whom the true Ministry was committed said 2 Tim. 1.9 they were saved Tit. 3.5 Thou would have people wrapt up in thy Form all their lives that thou among them may have preheminence and tells them of salvation afterward when as no unclean thing must enter into the Kingdom as the Tree falls so it lies This have I written as touching particulars received from M. Caffyn part in writing and part from his mouth and God who is the Judge of all is my witness herein that I have not added to what was spoken by him so be ashamed thou blind guide and prove thy Doctrines else be silent and give over teaching others who thy self art untaught mind that in thy conscience which shews the sin and evil and let it stop thy mouth see thy own confusion glory not in Babylon a building by thy own fingers in thy own imaginations the Kingdom thou art departed from the measure which shews the evil thou disobeys and from men thou art driven and thy dwelling is amongst the Beasts of the field and thou art pushing with thy horn and power against the Lambs and upon the grasse thou art feeding there is thy state not only seven times but ever except the light which shines in thy Conscience thou own that by it thou may be led out of darkness up to Christ who for that end gave thee a measure to profit withall doth not a man whose eyes are open know a beast by one mark how many marks doth thou here beare which God gives his Children victory over therefore cease thy prateing with malitious words against that which thou knows not and come out of deceit and the worlds vanities which thou sticks in contrary to that in thy conscience therefore be warned thou who spreads thy self as the Bramble-bush and obey that in thy conscience which shews the sin and evil for fire is in the bush though thou be not aware of it resist not that in thy Conscience by which God calls thee and secretly checks thee that out of the evil of the world thou may come God who is a consusuming fire will awake for his own glory and his fire he will kindle which all thorns bryars and brambles shall consume prize the day of thy visitation A Lover of thy soul Thomas Lawson THE END