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A93918 The doctrines and principles the persecution, imprisonment, banishment, excommunicating of the saints of God, by the priests and magistrates of Scotland, contrary to the doctrine of Christ and the Apostles ... Stockdale, William, d. 1693. 1659 (1659) Wing S5693A; ESTC R184702 60,391 90

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Scotland and never was given back to this day it being two years since Alexander Parker was cast in Prison by order of George Monk and the Councell George Fox the younger banished and sent from Constable to Constable by order of George Monke and the Councell George Wilson George Fox the younger and Richard Ismead was banished from the Isles of Orkney by George Monks Comand and the rest of the Councel of Scotland Alexander Parker and severall others were comanded and sent out of Scotland by George Monke and the order of the Councell of Scotland Francis Howgill Thomas Robbinson and one more were apprehended at Dumfreize by the souldiers and magistrates of the town whereupon the said Souldiers rifled them and their Port-mantles for Letters but when they could not finde any to accuse them withall the Magistrates cast them into prison as Vagrants and did intend to have sent them into England again by Constables but it being proved that they were no Vagabonds the Magistrates and Souldiers was faine to let them go after all the wrong they had done them though it was to their own shame Christopher Fell was put into prison in Parsley for speaking to the Priest after the Priest had done and the people did threaten that if any Quakers did come again to their Church as they called it they would carry knives with them to stab them to which threatning John Dove who was then Lieftenant of a Troop of Horse and quartered in that town said If they did do as they said he would bring the Troop of Horse and be-set them in their house so to preserve the peace Thomas Holmes and Elizabeth his wife was shamefully abused in severall places in Scotland Richard Pinder was put in prison four dayes and in the Stocks five houres and banished out of the Land for speaking to the people in the Steeple-hous-yard of Kilbryde between the Priests Sermon time Richard Ismead for bidding James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton prove himself to be a Minister of Christ was put in prison there and from thence sent prisoner to Glascow there put in the stooks with a gagg in his Mouth and a paper pinnd on his brest and was commanded to depart the Land William Stockdall was put in prison four dayes in a hole where he could scarce get room to lye down for speaking to James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton James Lanchester and others was severall times put in prison for speaking in the streets of Hambleton John Hart Andrew Browne and John Lacoke was imprisoned severall weeks in Glascow for going to the Priests house to speake to him and the priest excommunicated them in the mean while Thomas Jack was put in prison some dayes for going to the priest to aske why he would excommunicate him the said Thomas Jack was put in prison and kept from his Trade he being a poore man and his wife lying in Child-bed James Lanchester and Robert Withers was banished out of Scotland George Were was put in prison twenty three dayes and nothing laid to his charge justly Will. Michell was put in prison above twenty nine days for taking a wife contrary to the Priests will John Robberton called Lord of Ornock publikely refused to enter Andrew Hambleton in Shawton Hill in his prossession under him because he was excommunicated by the Priest wittnesses of this Alexander Hambleton John Strandders William Gray James Finly Robert Gray Robert Smally John Robbins all five were put in prison because they could not break Christs command John Hart and Jeannett Browne was put into prison for entertaining the people of God called Quakers Three taken out of an Inn by force in the night season between the tenth and eleventh houre and stoned out of the Town these and many more whose names are not here written have suffred much by this persecuting generation of Priests whose throates are open sepulchers to swallow down the bloud of the Saints and Servants of the most high God Hugh Archballs Doctrine and Principles Priest of Stravan in Evendale These are his Principles as follow Pr THat Christ hath not enlightened every one that comes into the world Ans Which is contrary to Johns doctrine John 1.9 Pr. That Christ doth enlighten none but those that do receive him Answ Contrary to John 3 speaking of them which hath the light and are enlightened and will not come to it because the light will reprove them so he that hates the light is enlightened and will not receive Christ Pr That it is blasphemy to say that the true light doth enlighten and condemn the world Answ Contrary to John 1 9 and 3 19 that saith This is the true light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world And this is the Condemnation of the world that light is come into the world Pr To say that which reproves for sin is from Heaven is blasphemy Answ Contrary to John 16 8 which saith it is the spirit that reproves which comes from the Father and the Son which is from Heaven Pr. He cryeth up a naturall light as Sun Moon and Stars and the light of Christ was before these was made and saith it is blasphemy to say they that did the things contayned in the Law was blessed in the deed and the Apostle said the doers of the Law was justified and said he would leave the Friends that speake to him to the mercy of the people Answ Upon which they struck bitterly with books fists and stones to destroy but that same moderate people and Souldiers stayed the Persecution John Hume Priests of Lesmahagow His Principles as followes who got into a Steeple-house and shut the door upon him thus he taught the people Pr THat which was to be known of God was manifest by the things that are created Answ Contrary to the Apostles doctrine Rom 1 19 For whatsoever may he known of God is manifest in them for the invisible things of him from the Creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made even his eternal power and God-head so that they are without excuse So with that of God in them they know the invisible things from the foundation of the world and with that they see the God-head Pr That God was to be known by the things that were made as the Sun Moon and Stars Answ But Jesus Christ said Mat 11 27 No man knowes the Father but the Son and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him and the heathens know not God nor the Jewes had not seen his shape And his servants and workmen did throw water stones and lime and persecuted and dirtted and abused the people called Quakers and threw a pan full of water in a Souldiers neck and the said Priest never reproved them and these be the fruits of him and his own Family in stead of gravity well may the whole Parish be out of order when his own Family is thus So he is one that is reproved by the Apostles doctrine
was never any since the world began was free from sin nor never shall be write that said he Answ Which is quite contrary to plain Scripture Rom. 6.18 20 22. Being made free from sin ye became the servants of righteousnesse for when ye were the servants of sin ye were free from righteousnesse but now being made free from sin and become servants of God ye have your fruit unto holiness and the end everlasting life for the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord And Paul said Rom. 8.2 The Law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death A Relation of some of the Sufferings of Friends to the Truth in Scotland JOhn Roberton called Lord of Ornock publickly refused to enter Andrew Hambleton in Shawton-hill in his possession under him because he was excommunicated by the Priests Witnesses of this Elexander Hambleton and John Strudders William Gray James Findly John Gray Robert Smally John Robine was summoned to be upon a Jewry at Dunbarton and when they came there and went within the Barr they puld off their Bonnets and bad them swear unto whom they answered they would not swear But they will tell the Truth and take God to be their Witnesse upon it but this they would not receive for John Callhonne called the Sheriffs deputy bad them swear by God and hold up their hands or go into prison and it was answered we dare not transgresse the Doctrine of Christ who said swear not at all he said it was but the Law of Christ that bad men not swear but the Law of God bad men swear and so would have set the old law over Christ who is the end of it who forbids swearing And because they durst not transgresse the Doctrines of Christ in which the Apostle lived who said Above all things my Bretheren swear not at all they put them all five into Prison The Heads of that which past in Discourse betwixt the People called Quakers and the two Priests of Hambleton in the Priests house The Names of the Priests are Jam. Nesmith and John English in which Discourse they have manifested themselves and all the rest of their Generation to be none of the Ministers of Christ but the Ministers of Anti-christ who preaches another Gospel then the Apostles did as in the Discourse following you may plainly see And also some Reasons why we deny them First JAmes Nesmith said There is no salvation in an ordinarie way for sinners without externall Revelation from the Scriptures Answ Here all may see they hold out another way to salvation then the Prophets and the Apostles did for they said Christ was given for salvation to the ends of the earth Isay 49.6 and there was not salvation in any other nor no other Name given by which any can be saved but by the Name of Jesus Acts. 4.12 But that salvation they tell of which is by external revelation from the Scriptures was never held forth by the Prophets nor the Apostles nor declared of in all the Scriptures of Truth therefore all may see they are such as preach another Gospel then the Apostles did and so are to be holden accursed and turned away from Gal. 1.8 Jam. Nesmith said That Christ doth not excommunicate the knowledge of himself but by the Scriptures and that the Scripture is the means by which the knowledge of God is imparted Answ This is a lye and Scripture contradiction For Christ who doth communicate the knowledge of himself by his own Spirit saith none knows the Son but the Father neither doth any man know the Father but the Son and he to whom the Son will reveal him Mat. 11.27 So it is not by the Scriptures that the true knowledge of God is imparted to any man but by Christ 2 Cor. 4.6 The second Priest John English First Said the Vail that was over people in the time of the Law was the Old Testament and it was taken away by the New Testament Answ Sin was and is the vail by which the mystery was vailed all the time of the Law until now for when Moses is read the same vail remains over their hearts for their minds was and is blinded by the God of this World lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ which is the Image of God should shine unto them 2 Cor. 4.4 nevertheless when their hearts shall be turned to the Lord the vail shall be taken away 2 Cor. 3.16 which vail is done away in Christ 2 Cor. 3.14 and not by the Scripture which they call the New Testament and here John English is proved to be a lyar and of his father the Devil who is a lyar from the beginning 2. John English said That the Gospel that was preached to Abraham was the same for matter but not for substance neither was it a clear Gospel Answ The Gospel that was preached to Abraham was the same for matter and substance which Paul preached for matter and substance is one and it was a clear Gospel for Christ the substance was preached to Abraham and Abraham saw his day and rejoyced John 8.56 Therefore give over deceiving the people with lies and repent 3. John English said The Scripture is the glasse by which we see the Face of God Answ This is a lie and Scripture contradiction for the Apostle saith God who commanded the light to shine out of darkness hath shined in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ 2 Cor. 4.6 Mark the Priests ignorance or the Scriptures and here all may see that he is one of them that keeps people in darkness from seeing the face of God and erres not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God 4. John English said The foundation of the Prophets and Apostles was meant the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament Answ The Prophets and Apostles meant what they speak and the same foundation which they declared of and builded upon did 〈◊〉 Enoch Noah and others who died in the Faith before the Old and New Testament was written build upon which foundation was Christ the Rock of Ages the foundation of the chief Corner Stone 2 Tim. 2.19 1 Cor. 2.11 But thou art one of them that drawes people from the foundation of the Prophets and the Apostles to build upon thy lies and consequences which building and foundation the Lord will bring to naught for he is risen to sweep away the refuge of lies which thou and thy generation hath been covered with and will make you naked and bare for your covering is too short that your shame cannot be hid any longer 5. John English said That they had their commission from Paul to give Bread and Wine Answ Here hast thou made it plainly manifest that thou and thy generation are none of the Ministers of Christ who say you have your
THE DOCTRINES AND PRINCIPLES THE Persecution Imprisonment Banishment Excommunicating of the Saints of God By the Priests and Magistrates of SCOTLAND Contrary to the Doctrine of CHRIST and the APOSTLES Here all may see The Priests of Scotland and their Church and their Persecution Imprisonment and Banishment and Excommunicating of the Saints and Lambs Servants and Children of God which the Lord moved to go amongst them to visit the Seed of God in that dark wilderness-country who has been as Sheep among Wolves Also How pure Religion is turned upside-down and vain Religion got in its place And the pure Doctrine of Christ and the Apostles which saith Entertain Strangers Love Enemies is lost amongst you In stead of entertaining strangers and loving of enemies they Imprison and Persecute and have made their Church unsavory And the Teachers fruits declares to be false who are wrestlers against flesh and blood and strikers at creatures which Christ and the Apostles did not George Weare John Hart William Grey William Stockdale William Mitchell Richard Ismead LONDON Printed for Robert Wilson at the Signe of the Black-spread-Eagle and winde-Mill in Martins-lane near Aldersgate 1659. THE DOCTRINES AND PRINCIPLES Of the Priests of Scotland c. FIRST These Presbyterian Priests of Scotland which Excommunicate and puts out of the Synagouges knowes not the Father and the Son John 16. so no true Christians for how can they be true Christians that knows not the Son of God nor the Father Secondly They are no Ministers of Christ for Christ saith When they curse blesse ye so they be out of Christs doctrine and teaching not blessing but cursing and giving forth curses and all the people must say Amen to their Curses Thirdly They be out of the Apostles doctrine who saith Blesse and curse not Rom. 12.14 so are no Ministers of Christ that curseth and gives forth their Curses to the people to say Amen to them and here they are shut out of the Apostles doctrine and Christs all people mark and take notice them they are that curse which the Apostle saith Blesse and curse not these are the Cursers and not Blessers that Excommunicate you out of the Synagogues Hugh Archball Priest of Stravan John Hume priest of Lesmahagow William Hambleton priest of Glasford James Durram priest of Glasgow John Castaires priest of Glagow Francis Ard priest of Discert Matthew Mackel Priest of Bothwel Henry Foreside priest of Lingiah James Nesmith priest of Hambleton Robert Semple priest of Losmahagow Thomas Garony Priest of Edenbrough John Burnet priest of Kilbroid A short Relation of the Vnjust sufferings of the People of God called Quakers by those unreasonable cursing Priests who covet after innocent blood as the Reader may finde in this ensuing Treatise WILL. OSBVRNE was Excommunicated by William Sterling Priest because he gave his testimony against him and the rest of the Priests Margaret Hambleton was Excommunicated by Lewis Semerell Priest of New-monkeland for entertaining the people of God called Quakers and the denying the tyrannicall power of the Presbitery John Hutchison was Excommunicated by James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton and the Priest would not give him any account for what he did it George Weare was Ecommunicated by John Hume Priest of Lesmahagow and the rest of the Presbytery of Lenarick for entertaining the people of God called Quakers William Michel John Michel Robert Todd Mary Inglish Elizabeth Lappy Marian Michel these were Excommunicated by Peter Kid Priest of Douglass and the rest of the Presbytery of Lenarick for denying that Matthew Mark Luke and John was the Gospel they witnessing the Power of God to be the Gospel Thomas Jacke Gabriel Hood James Cooke Gavine Scevenson John Hambleton Alexander Hambleton Jannett Hambleton Barbarah Hambleton Jannett Hambleton Andrew Hambleton Jane Hambleton Katherine Hambleton Katherine Hart John Allene James Hambleton William Hambleton Margaret Hambleton John Hart James Actkine John Hart Alexander Hart Jean Hart Gavine Hart John Lacoke Jannett Brown Jeanet Hambleton Andrew Brown Jean Brown Thomas Craiqqe John Torrens Katherina Hambleton Katherina Weare Jeanet Weare These were Excommunicated by Matthew Mackell Priest of Bothwell and the rest of the Presbitery at Hambleton for saying that Priests that preacheth up Sin for terme of life be Ministers of the man of Sinne. James Finly William Gray and many others have been Excommunicated by those Priests in that manner And after those Priests had Excommunicated these aforesaid persons they caused a general Synode to meet at Glascow and made an Order and published it in all their Masse-houses that none of those people called Quakers should have any entertainment and that no people should have any dealing with them in any Civil affaires not to give cursed men work as they styled our Friends and hindring men to work for them and that under pain of Excommunication the extent of which Order is that they should neither buy nor sell eat nor drink with them in the Nation William Stockdale and John Boweram being moved of the Lord to go to Strahavan in Evandale and declaring the word of truth there one a Market-day to the people was oftentimes knockt down with stones and stoned out of the town with violence by the wicked people William Stockdale John Gill and several others having a Meeting in Strahavan a company of the Priests hearers came and fell upon them with staves and stones broke up their Meeting and stoned them above a quarter of a mile out of the town insomuch that some bloud was spilt and many were sore bruised William Stockdale was knockt down in the Steeple-house yard of Damanoy and the people set their feet upon him and pulled much hair off his head insomuch that some of them cried he is kild for he could not speak nor rise off the ground for along time George Weare and several others had their Bonnets taken away from them at a Meeting and they laid it before William Lowery called Justice but he instead of doing Justice threatned them saying If they went to that place to meet again he would have them whipt or else he would whip them himself Richard Gollon Bayliff of Leanarick took away William Michels Bonnet by order of William Jacke priest of Carlooke and the Priest would not let him have it again neither would he let the said William and some others stay in the Town all night although the night was stormy and the Priest and the Bayliff had his Bonnet Mary Inglish for going to ask Peter Kid priest of Douglass why he warned them to the Sessions and did not appear to accuse them there was shamefully abused and beaten by the Priests wife and others here 's the Priests fruits George Fox the yonger Elexander Parker and others had their letters taken from them and broke up by George Monk and the Council of Scotland and never returned to them again also ten pounds worth of true books taken away from the people of God called Quakers by George Monk and the Councell of
the Steepping may be greater then God and we will meet and finde you out some honest man Mark the Priest will not meet with their God till they know of a great Steepping George Wear and some others having their Bonnets taken from them when they were at a meeting neer unto the Steeple-house of Lesmahagow and he laying it before William Lowery called Justice who said How durst you come there to keep your meeting if ever your come there again I will have you scourged or I will scourge you my self James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton caused William Stockdale to be put into prison for speaking to him in the Steeplehouse-yard where he remained four days in a place where he could scarce get room to lie Richard Pinder for speaking in the Steeple-house yard of Kilbryde between the Priests preaching was carried by the Constable before James Steward of Castle-Town called Justice who caused him to be put in the Tolebooth of Rugland where he remained about four days and after that he to wit James Stewart and Will. Simmons both Justices caused him to be set in the stocks at Kilbryde on a first day and ordered him to be carried from Constable to Constable till he come to his outward abode in England and he being brought to a Constable called John Barrie and he being willing of himself to go Jo. Barry gave him the Order and he went into England yet nevertheless the Justices to wit James Stewart and the rest fined John Barry 10 shillings sterl for doing so and he not willing to pay it they put him into prison where he lay four hours and a mad man was put in with him that had a naked knife in his hand whereby he was in danger of his life if the Lords providence had not been great in preserving of him and the Justices when he was brought before them again said They would forgive him his Fine if he would not be a Quaker who answered I cannot tell what I will be William Mitchel for taking of a Wife contrary to the Order and Law of the Presbyterian Church of Scotland whereupon the Priest of that Parish of Douglass called Peter Kidd complained to the Justices and caused to summon him to the Quarter-Sessions at Hambleton where James Hambleton of Woodhal was present and Will. Mitchel desired to be judged according to the Law of God and the right Laws of the Nation for we have given in a Declaration of the said Marriage to some of you Woodhal said We will neither judge you according to the Law nor the Scriptures we have nothing to do with them at this time we will judge you according to the Law of the Church of Scotland by which Law and Judgement he lay in the stocks at the cross of Hambleton five hours and after that was put into prison where he remained twenty nine dayes and they ordered him to pay twenty shillings sterl or else to receive twenty lashes on his naked shoulders at the Market-place upon the Market-day in Hambleton and he being not convinced of the breach of any just Law he would not pay the Fine neither could they get any to give him the punishment which they laid upon him Then Gawine Hambleton of Raploeh which is Sheriffe of the Shire and is also Justice of Peace and Iames Hambleton another of the Justices gave an Order to a Captain that was going to France with some men to take him out of prison to carry him to France whereupon they took him out and carried him to Edinburgh where he should have been kept in prison till they had made reddy their Ship But in the mean while the thing being laid before George Monk he caused to examine it and the thing being contrary to the just lawes of the Nation he was set at liberty The grosse Scottish Doctrines of the Scottish Priests Reproved That all may see whether those be worthy to suffer which reprove such Doctrines 1. JOhn Sempel Priest in Carrick his preaching to the people was this People saith he what would ye hear I know ye would hear News What shall I fell you but old Oliver Cromwell who is called Protector is dead he could not beguile death as Pockie as he was But there is gotten up one in his place whom they call Lord Richard but beware that Catt Lambert kill not Lord Richard 3. John Burnet Priest of Kilbrid said They had cause to curse the Magistrates every morning and every evening for giving these Quakers tolleration and he said if there were a Gallowes set up in Kilbryde parish to hang all that turn from them so many would not turn to be Quakers 3. Henry Foreside Priest of Lemgey in Dumbarton-shire Prayed that the Lord might never give them rest who is the upholders of this liberty and tolleration and said Lord take away this liberty and tolleration c. Witnesses of this that heard him say it Andrew Gray Agnus Gray Hellene Gray 4. Robert Semple Priest of Slamanan in his preaching said That Christs Sheep had neither mark nor burn c. And that God would say to the wicked what have I to you with you sir c. But I trow The Priest means the Old Masse-house and he that puts into his Mouth he will say another tale to the godly You have keeped my Kirk well and trowed my Ministers go ye up to Heaven yonder sir c. 5. Lodowick Semerwell Priest of New Monkland said That the Grace of God belonged not to his Doctrine And this same Priest caused a man to make his Repentance in his Congregation for selling to Margaret Hambleton two pecks of Lintseed yet the Priest himself borrowed a book of her and did not his Repentance and so manifested that his Doctrine had no grace of God in it Answ Now serious people may take notice how ignorantly and without cause the servants of the Lord suffer under such for the Word of Gods sake which is as a fire in their bones against all such Doctrines which hath nothing of the grace of God in them nor which the grace of God belongs not unto as they themselves confesse and people may consider likewise what a clamour and cry hath been among the Priests of England and Scotland by Petitions and Addresses to every power that appeared in the Nation to establish them in such Doctrines as nothing of the grace of God belonged unto but is murtherers and destroyers of the Creatures and would limit the Spirit of God and Word of God from declaring against their deceipt and doth give themselves to Cursing of them morning and evening that will not uphold them and make Lawes for them to destroy the Seed of God This is not like the Apostle of Christ which said Curse not but blesse and their weapons were not carnall but spiritual The Apostles had not a gallowes set up for those that turned from them but the time is come that your folly is made manifest unto all men so that
you cannot deceive the Nations any more as ye have done Again the Priests of the Presbytery belonging to Glascow made a fast and excommunicated these persons viz. William Gray and James Findly and charged people not to let them come into their houses commanding them to have no commerse with them in buying nor selling nor borrowing nor lending and James Findly being a Smith they charged people that they should not work with him for if they did they should be excommuicated also and Henry Foreside Priest of that parish again told them that it was acted in the presbytery that if any work any longer work that pertaines to the Smiths trade with James Findly they should be excommnicants and should not parake with any of his Church-Ordinances as marriage sprinkling the children and communion of bread and wine which act several of the people murmures under but say they must obey it contrary to their minds because they cannot bear the Priests wrath Again John Burnett Priest of Kilbrid charged his hearers to have no dealings in civil affaires with these people called Quakers that were excommunicated and he summoned such to his Sessions which had eaten or drunken bought or sold with them requiring them to make publick confession before the people that they had given offence in so doing c. Again Robert Paul one of the Priests elders said he would convert James Findly and his doctrine to convert him by was this That the Scripture was the word And secondly That the Scriptures was God Thirdly That the Scriptures is the way to the Kingdom of Heaven and no other under Heaven Fourthly That the scriptures is the Holy Ghost that the Father promised that he would send that should reprove the world of sin c. Ans If he had said that the Scripture is that which testifie of these things that doctrine had bin more like to have converted for the scripture saith That the word was in the begining before scripture was and it saith that Christ is the way and there is no other Name under Heaven by which men shall be saved but by Christ it doth not say that by no other name but the scripture so that all such doctrine will pervert people from God and not convert them to God And the same Robert Paul said he would respect mens persons and that he would never be free from fin neither was it possible Answ How can thou do any other but respect persons and commit sin while thou denyes God to be God and Christ to be the way and would make the scriptures both to be God and the way to God and would make them the spirit the gift of the Father but herein thou art blind and leads none but the blind and doth pervert and not convert for thou art ignorant of that which convinceth the world of sin yet which is the Spirit of truth which the scripture testifies of but that thou must first come to know to convince thee of and to condemn thy darkness before thou do either convince or convert any unto God James Gartsore Priest said they loved God which keeped not his commandements Answ Which is contrary to the Apostles doctrine which saith If any man saith that he loves God and keeps not his Commandments he is a lyar and the truth is not in him and hereby do we know wee love God because wee keepe his commandements 1 John 2.3 4. and his Commandements are not grievous but joyous And Christ saith Why call ye me Lord and doth not the thing that I command you so that none loves God but he who keeps his Commandements and abideth in him and he that abideth in him sinneth not 1 John 3.6 Peter Kid Priest of Douglasse said Put a man in never such a close place his soule will run like a post horse Answ Thou shewest that thou art ignorant of the soul and never knew what it was nor knowes how to Minister to it nor how to watch over it But if thou had seen thine own condition thou might have said that thy vain thoughts and wandring imaginations runs to and fro in the earth and thy mind is not staid upon God and art not come to know the first principal of the the time Religion that which should stay thy mind upon God so thou art to wait to be taught and not to teach William Simerwell Priest of Petinance said that Christ died for the Elect and godly people of the world and not for the Turks and Pagans and Barbarians c. Answ Christ died for sinners according to the Scriptures Rom. 5.8 And he came to call sinners to repentance not the righteous or godly Mat. 9.13 And Christ died for all 2 Cor. 5.14 15. And is the propitiation for our sins saith the Apostle that was the believers and not for ours onely but for the sins of the whole World and the Gospel is to be preached to every Creature and remission of sins in his Name to Turks Pagans and Barbarians So herein thou hast shewed that thou was never made a Minister of the Gospel unto any neither knoweth what the Gospel is to be Ministred unto so therefore be silent and learn no more to blaspheme God and his truth as thou hast done Again Priest Simerwell saith Christ calls all men every where to repent but he will not that all should Repent Answ Here thou would make Christ a deceiver and so hath manifested thy selfe to be Antichrist what doth Christ call men to do that which he would not have them to do What is there any guile to be found in his mouth would thou go about to turne the truth of the Scriptures into a lye which saith That God wills that all men should come to the knowledge of the truth that they might be saved and thou here hath charged Christ foolishly and falsly in saying that he calls them to do that which he would not have them to do when he calls all men every where to Repent The Priest of the Presbytery belonging to Glascow summoned James Findly and William Gray to be examined by him for Heresy as they say and when they appeared they shut the door and would let none hear their examination manifesting themselves to be in darknesse and afraid to bring their deeds to the Light left their deceipts should have been laid open and reproved but they would not answere untill the doors were set open and all people to here that would come in Truth is bold and seeks no Corners They Priests affirmed that the Light which every one is enlightened withall is naturall c. Answ Here they manifest their ignorance of the life of Christ which is spirituall whose life is the light of men and this is the true light that lighteth every man that comes into the world and this light is pure that Christ doth enlighten every one withall and whosoever doth truth love the Light and brings his deeds to the light to be proved and by the Light