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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A81734	The Quakers folly made manifest to all men: or a true relation of what passed in three disputations at Sandwich, April, 12, 13, 19, 1659. between three Quakers, and a minister, viz. Mr. Samuel Fisher, George Whithead, Richard Hubberthorn, and Thomas Danson wherein many popish tenents were by them maintained, and by him refuted. Occasioned by an imperfect and (in many things) false relation of the said disputations, published by R. Hubberthorn, one of the three Quakers, which said relation is also censur'd and amended. Together with a brief narrative of some remarkable passages. / By Tho. Danson, late fellow of Magd. Coll. Oxon, and now minister of the Gospel at Sandwich in Kent.	Danson, Thomas, d. 1694.	1659 (1659)	Wing D215; Thomason E2255_3; ESTC R34492	40,882	71

the Law and by Christs righteousness that which is in Christ made his by Faith G. Whithead Then it seems you make two righteousnesses of Christ whereas the righteousness of Christ is but one T. D. Yes so I do what of that Do you think that the ri●h●eousness which the Apostle calls his own was not Christs Had he any righteousness which he had not received and yet that righteousness which was in the Apostle never was in Christ as the subj●ct but was wrought in him by Christ as an efficient cause And Christ had an inherent righteousness in respect of which he is said to know no sin and to be a Lamb without spot and blemish Are not here then two righteousnesses and they serve for two different ends the one for our just●fi●ation the other for our sanctification the one gives us a right to the inheritance of the Saints in light and the other makes us meet for possession G W●itehead Let me ask thee a question then are not we just●fied by Christ within us T.D. I answer no but by Christ without us G W●itehead If we are not justified by Christ within us then by another Christ and so thou preachest two Christs whereas Christ is not divided and thou dost that which thou chargest upon us preach another Gospel T. D. I did foresee the catch you intended ●n your question and answered you the more carelesly that I might see how you could improve your supposed advantage by i● But now I will answer you more punctually The Scripture by Christ w thin us understand● not the p●rson of Christ but h●s operat●ons the cause is put for the effect by a Metonymy a word too hard for your capac●ty Compare Col. 1.26 ●r st in you w●th Eph. 3.17 That Christ m●y dwell in your hearts by Faith And therefore it follows not that we make two Christs For we acknowledge that one and the same person just●fi●s us by a righteousness inherent in himself and sanct●fies us by a righteousnesse which he works in us by his Spirit So that when I deny justification by Christ within us however the words may sound to your ears yet to the judicious the meaning is obvious viz. that we deny our justification by that righteousnesse in us whereof Christ is the author but not that I make two Christs Two things are indeed expressed by the name of Christ his person and his operations in us and I deny the latter but assert the former for our righteousnesse to justification The Scripture speaks of two Christs Christ personal and Christ mystical if I should say not Christ mystical but Christ personal is our Saviour would you not speak wisely think you to say oh you make two Christs This distinction you may find Ch●ist pe●sonal Col. 2.8 9. not after Christ For in him dwelleth all the fulnesse of the Godhead bodily Christ mystical 1 Cor. 12.12 As the body is one and hath many members c. so is Christ meaning the Church which v. ●7 he calls the body of Christ G. VVhitehead I will prove by the Scriptures that we are justified by our sanctification whi●h thou saiest does but make us meet not give us a ●itle which thou shalt see it does to the i●heritance Acts 20.32 And now Brethren I commend you to God and to the word of his grace which is able to build you up and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified Gods grace gives an inheritance Here there was some disturbance among the people which occasioned VVhiteheads addresse to them and though I call'd to him often to take an answer he would not but at length Mr. Fisher started up and urged another Scripture and so this was omitted to it therefore I shall now return a brief answer That the Participle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 cannot refer to grace as this man would have it or if it did yet grace in●ends not sanctification but the favour of God which is the subject matter of the word which the Apostle cals v. 24. the Gospel of the Grace of God but it refers to 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 God and should be read who is able c. and so it is nothing to his purpose Mr. Fisher I will prove we are justified by grace or sanctification Tit. 3.7 that being justified by his grace we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal l fe The grace by which we are said to be justified is the same with that which is called washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost v. 5. T. D. You are much mistaken Sir the grace v. 7. is not meant of sanctification but of the favour of God which is manifested in the donation of his Son to us imputation of his r●ghteousnesse and acceptance of us as righteous in him G. VVhitehead I shall prove that we are justified by Faith as the cause of our justification by the plain words of the Apostle Rom 4.3 Abraham believed God and it was counted to him for righteousness T. D. But pray observe how well this agrees with your former Doctrine that we are justified by a personal conformity to the whole Law and now you will prove that a conformity to one part will suffice You interferr and cut one leg against t'other and are not sensible of it Does not the Apostle oppose Faith and Works Now if Faith be considered as a work there 's no opposition between them And does not that opposition exclude Faith as a work Yes surely and is boasting excluded in justification by Faith as a work no but there is more ground of boasting in the vertue of Faith were that equivalent to universal obedience Read Rom. 3.27 Where is boasting then it is excluded By what Law of works nay but by the Law of Faith and chap. 4.5 To him that worketh not but believeth c. which plainly int●mates that Faith is opposed to it self as a work in the businesse of Justification and as for the words of the Text the act is put for the object to which it relates as if it had be●n in expresse terms Christ whom his Faith laid hold upon was imputed to him ●or righteousnesse But that Faith is imputed to us a● be●ng nstead of a perfect righteousness● personal or that 't is the meritorious cause of our justification I utterly deny G. Wh. Thou dost darken counsel by words without knowledge and pervertest the Scripture by thy meanings T. D. That 's your usual charge but I deny it the Scriptures attribute our just●fication to the righteousnesse of Christ in the same s●nce that th●y deny it to works Receiving of Christ and remission of sins is the Office of Faith and not to merit them _____ Here we fell into a discourse very abruptly about several Arminian points which for the Reasons mentioned in the Epistle I omit An Account of a Discourse April 19th between two Quakers Mr. FISHER R. HUBBERTHORN AND THOMAS DANSON THe first Question debated on was

When as he had no such plea for himself till it was put into his mouth and the generality of the people did then hout at Mr. Fisher for a lyar and did then and do still affirm that the man spake the former words And as for the matter whereof Mr. Fisher was accused part of it he denied not namely that he had been at Rome but that he received a Pension from the Pope he utterly denied which yet that is probably as true for I have it from very good hands that in his late travel to Constantinople and thence to Rome he had as good Bills of exchange as most Gentlemen that travel and yet 't is well known that he hath no visible estate And the Quakers who came to hear the dispute who I suppose would not bely him did report that he did bear his witnesse against the Pope and Cardinals at Rome and yet they suffered him not to be meddled with which how unprobable it is let all men judge but how much more probable that the true cause of his safety was his compliance with them the Doctrines which he broaches among us and as he saies in all other places being theirs and a fair inlet to their Bag and Baggage And to assure the Reader of the likelihood of his compliance with the Antichristian Faction thou maist please to know that the 12. instant English account two honest and credible men of Sandwich had some discourse with Mr. Fisher at Dunkirk Mr. Tho. Foxton Jurate Tho. Barber Cooper and he told them that he looked upon the Jesuits and Friars there to be sounder in Doctrine than those we call the Reformed Churches This they are ready to testifie at any time upon call Another passage I have to acquaint thee with viz. that the aforesaid Mr. Fisher in conference with the above-named Sandwich men at Dunkirk Mr. Tho. Foxton Jurate Tho. Barber Cooper May 12. English stile did affirm that he himself is above Ordinances and that there is no more use of them in this life to many persons than there is of a Candle-light when the sun shines and he gave instance in the uselesnesse of Baptism and the Lords Supper And the same witnesses were credibly informed at Dunkirk that Mr. Fisher hath great Bills of Exchange from a Quaking London Merchant and may take up four hundred pound if he will And hundreds of people can testifie how light he made of the charge of Popery on the first day of the Dispute John Boys Esq Mr. Ch. Nichols Mr. Th. Foxton c. when I pluck'd Amesius 4 Tome against Bellarmine and offer'd to read part of it out of the Latine into English and with a gesture of derision he replyed that Bellarmine held many Truths which must not be rejected because he held them and he gave for instance that Christ was the Son of God And as for the state of the Qu●stions two of them viz. The light of Nature and Perfection I need not produce any witnesses to prove because they constantly affi●m them but as for the rest they are wont to juggle equivocate about them Henry Oxenden John Boys Esq M. Nath. Barry Mr. Tho Seyliard Mr. Ch. Nichols Ministers The terms of the third Question were Whether good works be the meritorious cause of our Justification which was expresly affirmed by them And this being so grosse and Popish Luke Howard one of the Quakers present at the dispute Mr. Nath. Barry hath since denied that they did so affirm And in the Fourth question Mr. Fisher denied that the Books commonly called the Old and N●w Testament were appointed of God for a standing Rule of Faith and Life Henry Oxenden Esq M● Tho. Seyliard Mr. Ch. Nichols Min. Mr. Antho. Oldfield Mr. Tho. Foxton Mr. Tho. Rumsey Jurates And for the last the infallibility of their Ministry the three Jurates of Sandwich in the Margin will testifie that they did affirm their Ministry to be infallible To conclude all I shall give thee a tast of the craft even of the female Sex in evading Scriptures One of them was challenged for breaking the rule 1 Cor. 14.34 Let your women keep silence in the Church for it is not permitted to ●hem to speak c. To which challenge she replied that is spoken of the women that have husbands at home to learn of v. 38. but I have none but am a maid Another who was a wife being also challenged for preaching publickly Mr. Tho. Foxton and that Scripture urged against her I suffer not a woman to teach nor to usurp authority ov●r the man c. 1 Tim. 2.12 She readily replied that was spoken of the woman who was in the transgression but I am not one of them meaning it seems that women who are perfect had the liberty of teaching which was denied to other women And I had some private discourse with a Gentlewoman a Quaker Mrs. Dor. Gudderson and ●ging her with that Scriptur● M●rk 7.13 M●king the Word of God of none eff●ct which is spoken of the fifth Commandment v 9 12. part of the wri●ten Word to prove that the Scripture cals it self by the name of the Word of God and perceiving her at a losse I p●ess'd her for an answer in stead whereof she put me a question Mrs. Mary Paramour wouldst thou not have ●e imitate the man Christ in ●ll things To which when I answered yes in such things as are intended for our imitation she replies the man Christ did not alwaies answer such cavilling questions as were asked him neither will I ●nswer thee And when she was urged with those Scriptu●es Rom. 16 and other Epistles which enjoyn Saluta●ions she pretended that she not being a Roman nor Corinthian what Paul wrote to them was nothing to her unlesse the Spirit within her did prompt her to do the same things And that thou maist see how great a str●sse they lay upon small matters I will tell thee a true story which perhaps may move thy laugh●er that a Kinsman by marriage of the same Gentlewomans making offer to salute her at his own house April 12 1659. she went two or three steps back with these words I have renounced the Devil and the Flesh long since prethee forbear that custom of the World These things I thought good to add at the desire of some worthy persons which else I had omitted that the world may take notice not onely of the wickednesse but of the absurdity of these peoples Principles FINIS BOOKS sold by John Allen at the Rising SUNNE in Pauls Church-yard Viz. Mr. Caryl's 5th Vol. 7th Vol. 8th Vol. 9th Vol. on Job Beza Novum Testamentum Fol. Mr. Allens Scripture Chronologie 4º Mr. Baxters Call to the unconverted 12o. Mr. Lukins practice of Godlinesse 12o. A Catechism of the chief Heads of Christian Religion by Mr. Davenport Mr. Hooke of New-England 8º The Faith and Order owned and practised in the Congregational Churches in England agreed upon and consented unto by their Elders messengers at their meeting at the Savoy Octob. 12 1658. Mr. Cottons Treatise on the Covenant of Grace Johannes Becoldus Redivivus the English Quaker the German Enthusiast revived A Defence and Justification of Ministers Maintenance by Tythes and of Infant-Baptism Humane Learning and the Sword of the Magistrate which some Anabaptists falsly call four sandy Pillars and Popish Foundations of our Ministry and Churches written by Immanuel Bourne Pastor to the Congregation at Waltham in the County of Leicester Pre●bytery and Independency vindicated in answer to Mr. John Tympsons Treatise of a free admission to the Lords T●ble It s now in the Press Mr. Gatt ker against judi ial Astrology The vanity of judicial A●●rology written by Gassandus Mathemetical Prof●ssor to the Ki●g of France Several Case● of Conscience concerning ASTROLOGY and seekers unto Astrologers answered bo●h from the VVord of God and from the Testimony of our most godly and eminent Divines published by a Friend to the Truth in which Book Judicial Astrologie is proved to be 1. Expresly fo●bidden by the VVord of God as a grand offence and ought not to be practised countenanced nor tollerated D●u 18.10 11. Lev. 20.6 Isai 47.13 14. Jer. 10.2 The Reasons why it is so expresly forbidden are 1. It is a practice whereby men do assume to themselves that which is peculiar unto God viz. Judgement concerning future events either concerning Kingdoms or Persons Isai 41.22 23. 2. Because it draws the hearts of men from God the Father and Christ his Son from considering the VVorks of the one hearking to the words of the other Isai 5.12 Col. 1.8 18 19. Deut. 18.10 16. 3. Because it is false delusive and uncertain Isai 44.15 4. Because it nourisheth vain and forbidden hopes and fears Jer. 10.2 All which Considerations published are to this end 1. As an alarum that the Consciences of those that study it may be awakened that they may be fully convinced of the great evill that is in it that abhorring such an abominable evil that is so hateful to God and a reall trouble to the Consciences of good men by leaving the sin they may avoid the punishment 2. That Conscientious Magistrates may know how nearly it concerns them to do their duties in vindicating the Glory of God by putting a period to the study of Judicial Astrology a practise indeed that brings the honour of God into so much contempt in the world 3. Lastly That all those that have a desire to learn it and those who enquire of Astrologers what good or ill Fortune as they term it shall happen to them in the course of their lives may through Gods Grace stifle such unlawful desires all which through the Grace of God shall be the prayers and supplications of him put up in the name of the Lord Jesus who is their friend to his power JOHN ALLEN He that converteth a sinner from the errour of his way shall save a soul from death and shall hide a multitude of sins James ● 20