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A35120 The counterfeit convert discovered, or, William Haworth's book, entituled (The Quaker converted to Christianity re-established) refuted wherein his absurd assertion, viz. that our (own) righteousness consists in the gifts and vertues which the spirit of God works in our minds &c. is manifested ... / by John Crook and William Bayley ; also an answer to the postscript at the end of William Haworth's wicked pamphlet called An Antidote &c. by C.T. Crook, John, 1617-1699.; Bayly, William, d. 1675.; Taylor, Christopher, ca. 1615-1686. 1676 (1676) Wing C7199; ESTC R24285 95,721 143

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sayest it is a working Faith and if it were not so it must needs be a dead Faith And the Apostle Paul speaks not of a bare believing excluding its operative Nature no more then the Apostle James doth of Works excluding believing but both agree that Justification is by a living working Faith When the Apostle excludeth Works from Justification he excludeth them only under the Notion or Conceit of Merit in which Sense the Jews urged the Necessity of them in that Business There is no Opposition between Grace and Works but a clear Consistency except or unless by Works we understand Merit And to say it receives no Efficacy from its being accompanied with Works is little less in plain English then to say if it did not work it would be as efficacious to Justification which is both contrary to Scripture and this received Doctrine viz. Where Christ removes the Guilt of Sin he also removes the Filth of Sin Justification and Sanctification being inseparable Companions and Justification is never without Sanctification for no Persons are the Subjects of Gospel Justification as ungodly or as in their sins but as being sanctified and the Filth of Sin removed so then justified not in Sin but in the Truth and Righteousness of Christ they being washed c. according to 1 Cor. 6.11 And such were some of you but ye are washed but ye are sanctified but ye are justified in the Name of the Lord Jesus and BY THE SPIRIT of our God according to this Maxim that without Likeness of Disposition there can be no Likeing of each other Haworth Enough if thou wast real in thy Expressions p. 29. c. Crook That the Reader may bear witness to W. H's Acknowledgment that what I have said is enough I shall set down my Words and abide by them to save further dispute about this Point viz. I know and believe Salvation by the imputed reckoned and real everlasting Righteousness of Jesus Christ brought nigh Which Confession of mine he acknowledgeth to be enough if real c. Haworth I had thought that Faith had been the Substance of things hoped for that by Faith Christ dwelt in our Hearts p. 30. c. Crook This he speaks of the imputed Righteousness of Christ brought nigh which is a large Confession to the Inherentness or Indwelling of Christ and consequently his Righteousness in the Hearts of true Believers and that which he calls the Substance of things hoped for he saith is in their Hearts also Now if all these things be so nigh what is the Cause that W. H. and I are so far assunder Haworth This is true plainly understood as spoken pag. 31. c. Crook These are my Words he confesseth unto speaking of the Imputed Righteousness of Christ which in the Fulness of time was manifest in and by him and in due time made mine by the Work and Application of his Spirit in my Inward Parts This is true saith W. H. So that I need take no further Notice of his Cavils against it seeing he hath so fully confessed to the Truth of it Haworth If this Him was to be understood of the true Christ we need not one Word further p. 32. c. Crook My Words are viz And God is well pleased or satisfied in and with Him in whom I am accepted c. Now I do declare it is the true Christ that I intended by Him so that it is needless for me to reply one Word further as himself confesseth Haworth Christ of himself and his Merit is not sufficient unless something wrought by the Light in us doth joyn its Merit with him pag. 33. c. Crook This is scoffingly spoken in Contempt not only of what I have said but also of the Works of the Spirit as appears by his own Words viz. Thou wouldst have the Works that are wrought by the Spirit have some Share in Acceptation What would this man say if he durst speak plainly as if the Spirit in its working did lessen the worth and sufficiency of Christ or as if W. H. contemned that Ancient Orthodox Saying viz. It is not propter but secundum i. e. We are accepted not for nor yet without where there is a Capacity but according to GOOD WORKS But this man would make the works of the Spirit and the work of Christ to be like Israel and Amalek No Acceptation of an Israelite by the Merit of Christ unless the Works of the Spirit like the Name of Amalek be quite blotted out from having any thing to do with it Haworth What the Lord doth is really done c. Crook I Oppose Reallity to thy Imagination not to any Act of God for in the New Creation as well as the Old God saith Let it be so and it is so But I am jealous thou and others imagine that to be so which is not so in this great Case Therefore do not deceive thy self and others by calling the strength of Imagination Reality and a confident Presumption a Living Faith Haworth But indeed this Righteousness is not at a Distance from us but put upon us by the Father's Gift Ye have put on Christ Gal. 3.27 It is the best Robe put upon us c. And all that Righteousness that is within us of Sanctification is but the Fruit of this it was merited and purchased for us by this p. 34 c. Crook I have spoken to this Subject under Title Contradiction and Confusion The Words he so wars against are these viz. Thou believest to be saved by a Righteousness wholely without thee Reckoned but not Real which Righteousness Christ wrought One Thousand Six Hundred Years since not that we undervalue that Righteousness nay cursed is he that so doth really no nearer to thee then the Place where he personally lived and dyed Now I desire the Reader to consider if his Proof consutes this viz. Gal. 3.27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ this is that Righteousness that is imputed to us and procures the Discharge from our Sins or Debts by W. Haworth's own Acknowledgement This being Baptized into Christ is explained by the same Apostle Rom. 6.3,4,5,6 Know ye not that so many of us as were baptized into Christ were baptized into his Death therefore we are buryed with him by baptism into Death that like as Christ was raised from the Dead by the Glory of the Father even so we also should walk in Newness of Life for if we have been planted together in the Likeness of his Death we shall be also in the Likeness of his Resurrection knowing this that our Old Man is crucified with him that the Body of Sin might be destroyed that henceforth we should not serve Sin And this Phrase We have put on Christ is also expounded by the same Apostle Rom. 13.12,13,14 And let us put on the Armour of Light so that we walk honestly as in the Day time not in Gluttonny and Drunkenness neither in
not own that the Wrath of God was upon Christ O repent John p. 29. c. Crook I know not what a great Cross it is for a Debtor that knows his Creditor to be fully satisfied and paid his Debt by another in his stead to believe it to be so But indeed it is a Cross to be stumbled at and a strange thing for a poor Debtor to be told he must believe his Debts are paid and his Creditor is satisfied while his Creditor keeps him still in Prison and calls to him every Day for full Payment this is cross to sound Judgment and good Understanding But if this be all the Acquaintance thou hast with the Cross of Christ I will assure thee thou art far enough from being his Disciple c. But why dost thou dare me William am I all of a suddain changed in thy Opinion from a Knave and a jugling Mountebank as thou callest me unto such a tender-conscienced Man that I dare not speak otherwise then I believe who playes Tricks now William making me believe that if I will own what thou would'st have me then thou wilt believe me yet when I have given Testimony to the Blood of Christ and many other Things even as thy self in Words professest to believe yet for so doing thou callest my Person a Knave and a Mountebank and my Belief a Juggle But thy Speech bewrayes thee for these Words viz. If thou darest c. is their Hectoring Language thou comparest me to But if the Reader please to examine his daring Challenge he will find it to be this viz. to own that the Wrath of God was upon Christ and that God poured out all his Wrath upon his Son and that these Words prove it Gal. 3. He was made a Curse for us for it 's written cursed is every one that hangeth on a Tree this is that he so dares me to and if I will not be convinced by this Proof I must repent of the Thoughts of my Heart though never so right in this Matter viz. I believe that Christ bore our Sins in his Body on the Tree that we being dead to Sin should live in Righteousness by whose Stripes we are healed 1 Pet. 2.24 I dare and do own that what Christ suffered it was for us and that the weighty Sense of the Misery due to Mankind for Sin fell upon him as the squeezing of Grapes in a Wine-press which caused him to sweat like Drops of Blood in his Agony Luke 22.44 all this we believe according to holy Scripture But let us now consider William Haworth's Belief and we shall find this to be one Article of his Faith viz. That Christ when he suffered was not innocent and as guilty God poured out all his Wrath upon him c. Christ had the Guilt of Sin really charged upon him what else is to be understood by these Words viz. he was made Sin for us Epist c. which is more then I dare affirm for what Job said of his own Integrity may much more be testified of Christ's Innocency to wit That he did not let that go till he dyed neither was Guile found in his Mouth And whatever thine and others Conceivings are of the Sufferings of Christ I dare say that no Man can conceive much less express what they were in the deep Travail of his Soul when he poured it out an Offering for Sin and the heavy Sense of Mans Misery fell upon him c. only those that have had Fellowship with him in his Sufferings and been made conformable to his Death in their Mealure are his Witnesses of what he suffer'd by the good Experience he hath given them through the Revelation of his holy Spirit in their Hearts such know something of the Sufferings of Christ and the Benefit of them to their own Souls c. Yet is not the Freeness of Forgiveness nor the free Grace and Mercy of God to Sinners destroyed thereby that truly believe in the Light of Christ Jesus and repent of the Evils that are made manifest to them by the same neither is the Work of Sanctification and Regeneration by all that Christ hath done or suffered made less necessary to the inheriting the Kingdom of God and everlasting Salvation nor are the Exhortations to Men and Women to follow Holiness and to work out their own Salvation with Fear and Trembling either weakened in themselves or made indifferent to Believers nor is the inward Work of redeeming the Heart and Mind out of the World to be fully set upon things above by the Spirit and Power of Christ within to be neglected or disesteemed by laying all the Stress upon what Christ hath done and suffered without us c. For though Christ be both a general and particular Saviour yet the Benefit accruing to Men by him as the general Saviour is known and received only where he is witnessed a particular Saviour for Christ in man becoming the Hope of Glory and Man being changed into the same Image from Glory to Glory even as by the Spirit of the Lord is the Salvation and the Perfection of every true Christian I have been the larger now upon this Subject that I may be excused from writing any more about it in this Reply Haworth What wouldst thou John have more then Faith page 29. c. Crook My Words are these viz. I find thee like the Pharisees of old flying from the Wrath to come by casting all God's Vengeance upon Christ an easie Way if thou couldst so escape it by imagining his doing God's Pleasure and suffering God's Displeasure to be reckoned thine by a bare Belief of it wholely without thee To all which he returns this Answer viz. What wouldst thou John have more then Faith Of which let the Reader judge if this be not his Hope and Belief viz. that he shall escape God's Wrath and Vengeance and consequently be saved by a bare Belief that Christ hath done God's Will and suffered his Displeasure wholely without him in his stead as if we were to understand no more by all Exhortations to Holiness and perfect Obedience to God's Holy Will and Commandments then that Christ and not we is to be only the Subject of all those Exhortations and Commands If it be asked whether a man may escape God's Wrath and Vengeance by a bare Believing that Christ hath done and suffered God's Pleasure wholely without him William Haworth answers What wouldst thou man have more then Faith But the Apostle James answers Wilt thou know O vain man that Faith without Works is dead Haworth He that works not but believes Rom. 4. There it Faith only a bare Belief John what sayest thou to that though that Faith that is justifying will work by Love yet it receives no Efficacy from its being accompanied with Works as to our Justification but from the Object without p. 29. c. Crook I say thou hast answered thy self that it is not a bare Belief without Works for thou
plainly affirmed the thing viz. That God ordained People to be wicked before they were born And whereas he daringly saith If I dare come to the Tryal he offers two Substantial Witnesses to prove that I said The Doctrine of Election was a Devilish Damnable and Blasphemous Doctrine and also to prove that No such thing was said by him as that God ordained People to be wicked before they were born and if I please he will enter the Lists with me and the like I answer That my God is the Living God above all the false Gods whom I serve and reverence in his Name and Power he hath kept me hitherto over the Heads of such Gilded Hypocrites as thou art and I fear not to meet thee nor thy Master's Strength and thy witnesses in the Name of my God in any convenient Place equally agreed on to manifest the Truth of my Cause and to try thy Power and I deny thy Spirit who denies the Power and Heavenly Light of the true God and Christ and callst his Blessed Image and Saving Health the Work of Regeneration Legal Righteousness and a man 's own Righteousness I tell thee I deny thy Spirit and Work and stand up for the true God and his Christ whom thou knowest not but by Imagination nor where he is but by Imagination Thou Dreamer hast thou not lost the Sight of the true Saviour and now thou imagines the Place of his Residence thou knowst not where nor what thou sayest nor whereof thou affirmest a Cloud hath received him out of thy Sight and you are parted if ever thou hadst any Acquaintance with him in any Measure and where he is thou canst not see him with thy blind Eye nor come unto him for indeed the Heavens have received him and the Heavenly Host see him but thou shalt never see him to thy Comfort but Condemnation in that Dark and Wicked Mind thou livest in profess what thou wilt and babble what thou canst in a vain Mind Thou wouldst be disputing about the Body of Jesus where it is and what it is but thou canst not find it out no more then the Devil could in disputing with the Angel about the Body of Moses and thou art sufficiently answered elsewhere as to that Surely the Apppearance Sight of Christ will be to their Condemnation who believe in thy Doctrine of Antichristianism in denying the Light within to be Spiritual and Christian for as the Devils saw him and knew him and were tormented by him in the Dayes of his Flesh as accounting his Coming then a Torment tormenting them before the time so shalt thou and those of thy Spirit except ye repent for your Torments are begun already and your Gnashing of Teeth because he is come to reign and he must reign who is our Joy and your Sorrow must encrease and have no End who are wilful and mad in your opposing of him in this Day of his spiritual Appearance The Substance of his Answer to my Postscript is this First Concerning Personal Reprobation he affirmeth That God willeth to permit Evil by denying Grace which would prevent it As much as to say God having fore-ordained the greatest part of the World to be Reprobated and Damned therefore to bring about his End he denies the Means of their Salvation that is Grace to the End that they may be damned for they must be damned there is no Remedy why Because God hath so decreed before they be born and this Purpose and Decree of his must stand and it cannot be otherwise because the Lord denieth them the Benefit of his Saving Grace If Ely was punished with Death because he restrained not his Sons Wickedness and had not that Indignation against it as it deserved what would they make God to be who as they say restrains his Grace because he hath ordained them to Damnation and also Christ did not dye for them and so it is impossible for those for whom Christ did not dye that they should be saved this is the natural Consequence of such a Doctrine and so it is of the Devil and to make the Lord the hardest of Masters and greatest of Tyrants to require that of man which he hath decreed aforehand it shall be impossible for him to do and yet he must for not doing it be condemned as much as if a Tyrant should first command a man's Legs to be cut off and then command him to go and kill him for not going or put out a man's Eyes and then command him to see and for disobeying such a Command he must be slain In like manner the Lord requires Faith and Repentance where aforehand he hath deprived him of Power to do either on purpose to destroy him because he hath decreed him before he was born to such an End and therefore denyeth him Grace Now William Haworth dost thou believe we can believe this to be Christian Doctrine which hath so much Contradiction and Confusion in it for the Grace of God hath certainly appeared to all men according to Scripture and the Invitation is unto all to believe in Christ that they may be saved without Respect of Persons Thus in short I leave this and pass on to detect the rest of thy Non-sense and Confusion because much hath been writ in this particular by other Hands c. Secondly Concerning Original Sin I said The Devil was the Original of Sin in Mankind and that I understood not how Infents could be guilty of Sin in the Womb c. To this W. H. answers thus That the Devil is the Original of Sin in Mankind i. e. The first Tempter to Sin is a Doctrine we learned from Moses not from the Quakers but what is this ad rem Ergo there is no Original Sin except it be the Devil Astrange Argument saith he Now Reader mark this man's Logick because I said that the Devil alwayes was and is the Original of Sin in Mankind who obey him he makes this Ergo or Conclusion There is no Original Sin except it be the Devil and so the Argument must stand thus The Devil alwayes was and is the Original of Sin in Mankind who obey him Ergo The Devil is Original Sin What abusive Non-sense and Perversion is this But however we say the Devil is the Original of Sin and now I shall look into the Scriptures he brings to prove the Sin of Infants in the Womb. First Rom. 5.12 Wherefore as by one man Sin entered into the World and Death by Sin and so Death passed upon all men for that all have sinned Mark Reader what is this to Infants in the Womb who have not yet sinned read the next verse following the latter part of it viz. Sin is not imputed where there is no Law but where is the Law to Infants in the Womb before they come into the World surely there is none therefore no Sin nor Condemnation it must needs be an Innocent Sinless State so that the state of sinning must