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A87512 The want of church-government no warrant for a totall omission of the Lords Supper. Or, A brief and scholastical debate of that question, which hath so wonderfully perplexed many, both ministers and people. Whether or no, the sacrament of the Lords Supper may (according to presbyterial principles) be lawfully administred in an un-presbyterated church, that is, a church destitute of ruling elders. Wherein the affirmative is confirmed by many arguments, and cleared from objections, especially such as are drawn from the unavoidablenesse of mixt communions without ecclesiastical discipline. / By Henry Jeanes, minister of Gods Word at Chedzoy in Sommerset-shire. Jeanes, Henry, 1611-1662. 1650 (1650) Wing J511; Thomason E618_6; ESTC R202652 58,879 80

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distribution_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n first_o then_o if_o you_o take_v it_o for_o the_o juridical_a and_o authoritative_a admission_n unto_o the_o lord_n supper_n than_o indeed_o it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o lord_n supper_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v give_v unto_o swine_n or_o dog_n they_o ought_v not_o authoritative_o or_o juridical_o to_o be_v admit_v thereunto_o but_o then_o we_o say_v that_o the_o commandment_n be_v not_o give_v unto_o the_o minister_n sole_o but_o unto_o the_o whole_a eldership_n and_o thus_o mr._n bowles_n answer_v the_o place_n praeceptum_fw-la de_fw-la non_fw-la dando_fw-la quod_fw-la sanctum_fw-la canibus_fw-la eos_fw-la duntaxat_fw-la obligat_fw-la quibus_fw-la deus_fw-la a_o sacris_fw-la arcendi_fw-la cane_n potestatem_fw-la demandavit_fw-la &_o haec_fw-la non_fw-la uni_fw-la alicui_fw-la sed_fw-la pluribus_fw-la à_fw-la christo_fw-la tradita_fw-la with_o reference_n unto_o this_o be_v it_o that_o mr._n ball_n tell_v we_o pag._n 204.205_o that_o the_o minister_n if_o he_o have_v do_v the_o office_n of_o a_o private_a christian_a and_o a_o public_a minister_n and_o afterward_o he_o reach_v the_o sacrament_n unto_o a_o unworthy_a communicant_a he_o do_v not_o so_o much_o give_v it_o he_o as_o suffer_v his_o communion_n because_o he_o have_v not_o power_n or_o authority_n to_o put_v he_o back_o he_o reach_v he_o the_o sign_n as_o that_o which_o he_o can_v withhold_v because_o he_o be_v hold_v in_o by_o the_o most_o prevail_a power_n without_o which_o he_o can_v be_v debar_v in_o this_o case_n the_o minister_n be_v neither_o actor_n nor_o consenter_n in_o his_o admission_n because_o he_o do_v it_o not_o in_o his_o own_o name_n but_o according_a to_o the_o order_n establish_v by_o god_n who_o will_v not_o have_v any_o member_n of_o the_o congregation_n public_o deny_v his_o interest_n and_o right_a to_o the_o holy_a thing_n of_o god_n by_o the_o knowledge_n will_n and_o pleasure_n of_o one_o singular_a minister_n if_o a_o minister_n know_v a_o man_n to_o be_v unworthy_a he_o may_v yet_o receive_v he_o because_o he_o can_v yet_o manifest_v it_o to_o the_o church_n and_o for_o the_o same_o reason_n if_o his_o unworthynesse_n be_v notorious_a if_o it_o be_v not_o