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grace_n	covenant_n	deny_v	infant_n	2,377	5	9.5458	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A90872	A true and faithfull narrative (for substance) of a publique dispute between Mr. Tho. Porter, & Mr. Hen. Haggar; concerning infant-Baptism. In the parish church of Ellesmer in the county of Salop, on the 30 of April, 1656. / By one who was present at, and a diligent observer of, the debate.	Porter, Thomas, d. 1667.; Haggar, Henry.	1656 (1656)	Wing P2998F; Thomason E887_1; ESTC R207352	16,499	27

have Christ to be their Saviour Therefore Foundat p. 61. lin 12. The Minor Mr. Haggar acknowledgeth in his book forecited That some Infants are saved by him i. e. Christ all will grant And a little after They i. e. Infants dying in their Infancy are saved by vertue of Christs death And if he should deny it for he is off and on Scripture saith expressely Eph. 5. 23. That Christ is the Saviour of the body and sure that is a visible body where there is use of water and of the word as v. 26. Now is Christ a Saviour of any who is not of the visible body At this the people laughed Mr. Browne The invisible Church is larger then the visible Mr. Porter An absurd expression It 's well known and generally received that the invisible Church contains only the good but the visible both good and bad Mat. 13.47 48. Mr. Tallant Many be called there is the visible Church but few are chosen there is the invisible Mat. 20.16 2. Priviledge Mr. Porter They belong to the Covenant of Grace and the Covenant of Grace to them Whence I argue thus They who belong to the Covenant of Grace may be baptized for they to whom the thing signified belongs to them the initiall signe cannot be denied but some Infants belong to the Covenant of Grace therefore * Deut. 29.10 11 12 15. which was a Covenant of grace 30.6 with Rom. 10.6 7 8 9. some Infants may be baptized Mr. Haggar I do not understand what is meant by the sign and thing signified Mr. Browne We have nothing to do with Arguments you are to bring Scripture Mr. Porter I have affirmed nothing yet but what I have confirmed by Scripture Mr. Haggar Where was it to be read in Scripture that Infants are to be baptized Pure Socinianism I deny any thing to be Scripture but what is written in so many words and syllables in Scripture because Scripture is that which is written as the word signifies Mr. Porter I have shewed you divers Scriptures wherein if you wipe your eyes you may read that it is written Some Infants are to be baptized 2. Scripture is either explicite or implicite that is either expressed or implied as Jam. 4.5 * Many things are said to be written and read in Scripture which are but implyed as Mat. 26.24 Mar. 9.12 13. Luk. 24.46 47. Do ye think that the Scripture saith in vain The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envie The Apostle cals this Scripture but where is this proposition in so many terms or syllables written in Scripture Mr. Haggar It 's written there in that Text. Mr. Porter This is just like your answer to Mr. Baxter who alledgeth Christ proving the Resurrection of the dead by consequence Luk. 20.35 36 37. You answer † Foundat p. 47 48. That the dead are raised is written in Luke a weak and shifting answer Is the resurrection expressely written in Exod. 3.6 or implicitely only and so by consequence You your self cite * Page 20. some of our own Poets in allusion to Act. 17.28 For we are also his off-spring These words are to us Scripture now but were they Scripture when the Apostle spake those words and you cited them out of Aratus So Christ and James call that Scripture which is there by evident consequence and not in express words as those in Aratus But to reassume my argument They to whom the Covenant of Grace belongs may be baptized But to some Infants the Covenant of Grace doth belong as may be proved Act. 2. 38 39. Be baptized for the promise is to you and to your children Mr. Haggar Here Mr. Haggar made a large Exposition to darken the counsell of God by words without knowledge Job 38 2. The question was Men and brethren what shall we do vers 37. The Apostle answers 1. Laying down the duty vers 38. Repent and be baptized 2. The promise And ye shall receive the gift of the holy Ghost This is the promise made to them and only to so many of them as the Lord shall call Now Infants cannot repent nor believe both which are required to Baptism Mr. Porter The promise is the Covenant * Act. 3.25 Gal. 3. often interchangeably are the one put for the other because the Covenant runs upon promises 2. Whatsoever is meant by the promise surely the extraordinary gift of the holy Ghost cannot be meant as you insinuate because those gifts do not pertain to all whom the Lord shall call 3. Peters Sermon was very officacious on the hearts of the Jews his hearers vers 37. So that it is true they cryed out What shall we do Upon which Peter directs them to leave their Judaism and to imbrace Christian Religion and to be baptized To incourage them thereunto he tels them the promise is to them and their children So that that exposition which crosseth Peters intention is not to be admitted But Mr. Haggars exposition crosseth Peters intention Because it is a discouragement from and not an incouragement to what Peter did exhort them unto For they might say we shall be losers by the exchange for as we are Jewer we and our children are circumcised the Covenant and initiall signe thereof belong to us and ours but if we turne Christians we indeed shall be baptized as a signe of our being in Covenant but not our children what shall become of our poor little ones The Apostle answers The promise is to you and your children The Covenant else is contracted by Christs coming contrary to the whole tenor of Scripture Rom. 15. Mr. Haggar Sir If the Apostle had written all this you have said it were true but the Apostle saith The promise is to them and to as many of their children as God should call Mr. Porter The promise is tendered just in the same tenour as to Abraham Gen. 17.7 I am thy God and the God of thy seed These words whom the Lord our God shall call properly belong to the Gentiles when the Gospell is first preached to them For these Jews were for the present under the Call so were not the Gentiles at that time Therefore the first part of vers 39. is set down in the present tense The promise I S and the latter part in the future tense Whom the Lord our God SHALL call Now if this clause were to be referred to the first part would it not have been a grand discouragement to the Jewes for they might well say we indeed are under the Call of God but who knows whether ever our children shall be called Mr. Haggar Children are not capable of being called because they cannot hear nor understand nor can they believe Yet those words Mark 16.16 He that believeth not shall be damned are not to be understood of children 2 Thess 3.10 No more then those words He that worketh not shall not eat Mr. Porter Children are capable of an internall