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A47203 Truths plea for infants, or, Infants right vindicated in a reply to Jeremiah Ives, chees-munger concerning the baptisme of infants. By Alexander Kellie. Kellie, Alexander. 1656 (1656) Wing K238A; ESTC R216626 26,367 49

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which the former people did receive de pec Merit remis lib. 2. cap. 5. All Antiquity hath firmely held that believers Infants do receive remission of originall sin by Baptisme Origen Hom. 8. in Levit. quid causae est cum Baptismus Ecclesiae in remissionem peccatorum detur secundum Ecclesiae observantiam etiam parvulis Baptismus detur Ita Hom. 14. in Luc. lib. 5. in cap. 6. ad Rom. Justine Martir lived in the Apostle Johns time and saith women ought to look to their children for of such is the Kingdome of Heaven And Gregorie Nazianzen Orat. 40. pag. 658. which was concerning holy Baptisme 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Finally Where you close with your service I know no service of yours except it be wherein you are more fit to serve then I to suffer nevertheless to pray for your conversion and to do you good I am yours Alexander Kellie Post-script THe Anabaptists think and say that there is no command for Infants Baptisme being such as do not understand nor make confession of faith or sins and yet we give them Scripture commands many and full though nothing will satisfie them no not when they have good measure pressed downe shaken together and running over as Gen. 17. there is not only a command for Infants that cannot confess but a reason that still holds to wit that the Lord is their God and God threatens the disobedient and this command in the substantials was never abrogated Therefore here is the first Command with a full perpetuall reason and with a threatning and a command of a continuall standing and is the very same with Baptisme in the essentialls 2. When Christ commands Infants to be brought to him to bless them to pray for them to lay his hands on them therein he commands as much and more then Baptisme comes to So here is a second command running over with the wrath of Christ to them that oppose it 3. Matth. 28. Baptize all Nations is a command likewise of a full measure running over for it doth not only reach Infants but all Nations 4. Acts 2. Peter commands every one to be Baptized with a reason reaching Infants for theirs is the Promise and here againe you have both Precept and Promise and yet the Anabaptist saith there is no command What is it to set the Word of God at naught and to cast his Commandements behinde our back if this be none Let such therefore take heed lest the Lord come and teare them in peeces while there shall be none to deliver Remember John Leydan and such fellows Infants have all the graces set forth and sealed in Baptisme therefore are to be Baptized they are justified sanctified regenerated clothed with Christ planted with him added to the Church incorporate in his body entitled in the Covenant to have the Lord for their God dead buried and risen againe with him and had by Gods command for many hundreth years a right to an Ordinance equivalent to Baptisme being then profitable every way and the seale of the righteousness of Faith and were never since put aside from Baptisme but by that wofull generation of Anabaptists here of late since the beginning of Luthers opposing the Pope since which time the Lord hath fearfully blasted that wicked sort of people in many Nations And therefore I conclude that children in their Infancie have an undoubted full and clear right from Scripture for their Baptisme still to this day and shall have till the last day when the Anabaptists shall be judged and convinced to purpose of all the ungodly deeds and speeches which they have done and spoken against Christs Truth And as for the particular graces that I have named as Justification of Infants sanctification c. I shall God willing if I be put unto it easily prove all these graces to belong to Infants in our dutifull and charitable judgement against any Anabaptist in England whosoever he be I could wish with all my heart that the Anabaptists would weigh well and consider what I write without prejudice remembring that it is no shame for them to forsake their errour but rather their honour and happiness to turne to the Truth and stand for it and it is both their shame and sin to be hardned in their hearts against it Better then they have forsaken this error and closed with us Zuinglius who farr excelled all the Anabaptists in the world both for grace and learning Mr. Baxter who may be a patterne for holiness and reading to most of his time he hath not only forsaken the Anabaptists but opposed them that they are not all able to answer him There be many English Books of learned men aganst the Anabaptists as namely Doctor Featly Mr. Marshall Mr. Gerce Mr. Church Mr. Cobbet Mr. Baxter Mr. Cooke Mr Blake Mr. Fuller Mr. Sidenham besides many other excellent men who have written in Latine as Vossius Calvin Beza Bullinger and all our best Lights in the Christian world both Ancient and Moderne These five sheets do not and cannot containe the hundreth part of what I have delivered to my Hearers for the space almost of three years for Infants and against Anabaptists and much more may be said FINIS
Noble Beraean as you would make men believe in the beginning of your Epistle for you give us not one place set down where to find the Scriptures Secondly You bring us Scriptures for what Infants cannot to prove that they should not have that which according to Scripture they can have And wheras you say Infants cannot blesse why is it then said in the 8. Psalme Out of the mouthes of Babes and Sucklings thou wilt perfect praise and in the ●48 Ps Praise him all people old men and babes Thirdly J will bring you places of Scripture where Children are to be reckoned amongst all Nations which bring them into Baptisme more then your Scriptures of all Nations can keep them out As ●en 12. v. 13. Where the Lord promiseth to blesse all the Families of the Earth and their Children are included and this promise of the blessing brings them into Baptisme more then your Scriptures can hold them out and withall this place pronounceth a curse against you Anabaptists for they that curse Abrahams Gospel way in setting the token of Gods gospel-Gospel-Covenant of grace upon Infants they curse Abraham and God hath threatned to curse such so yee Anabaptists are a Generation lying under the wrath and curse and vengeance of God The other places of Scripture comprehending Infants amongst all men and Nations are Heb. 2. v. 9. Where it is said Christ tasted death for every one and consquently for Infants and 1 John 2. v. 2. Where Christ is a propitiation for the whole World Infants are understood and Rom. 5 18. Which place you grant to be meant of Infants where it is said That the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life and yet yee will not admit Infants into the Ordinance of their first entry into any grace Thirdly Where you say Turks Insidels and their Children may as well be baptized as Professors Children it is false for the Infants of Believers are the blessed of the Lord Isa 65. v. 23. They are Gods Children from the Womb Ezek. 16. v. 20 21. They are in Covenant with God Gen 17. And to them belongs the Kingdome of Heaven This is never said of Turks and Infidels and the Infants of Gods people were by God admitted unto the possession of the like Ordinance to Baptisme which God calls the Token of his Covenant Gen. 17. Paul calls it the Seal of the Righteousnesse of faith Rom. 4. and much profitable every way Rom. 3. and Infants continued in the possession hereof for many hundred years and the Lord never put them aside from this long possession no more then he did the aged and therfore of necessity when he commands all Nations to be baptized he commands Infants to be baptized Lastly in Matth. 28. you say 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 must be referred to Disciples Sometimes you speak of Children eight daies old in the Cradle you can no more then one of them find me in the Greek Text a Substantive of the Maseuline Gender to agree with 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 but what do J talk of the Greek Text when you shew your ignorance so grosse as if you had never learned your Accidents putting a Nominative Casein the Singular Number for the Accusative in the Plurall 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and a Noune of your owne devising that was never heard of for a Verb as many times sequitor for sequitur and somtimes a Verb for a Noun as Baptizo for baptasmus or a Noun again for a Verb as Aspersia for aspergo Secondly J proved Infants were Disciples from Isa 54. v. 13. Where the Lord promises that Infants shall be taught of God you answer that they are not Disciples who do not learn if they were taught Herein you and Mr. Tombs and the rest are ●earfully out for John 6. v 60.66 it i● said many Disciples said of Christs Doctrine This is a hard saying who can heare it And they went away from him and would walk no more with him Here then be Disciples and yet they did not learn you would fain make simple people believe that the Moon is made of green Cheese but the Cheese munger hath never a Taster to make us find it so Then you bring in Jerem. 32 v. 33. Where it is said ●od taught ●he● but they refused to receive instruction But had not both they and their Infants the Token of Gods Covenant And did ever any of the Prophets speak against it as a sin And is there not most gracious promises made to the same people in the same Chapter As that he would never depart from them to do them good and that he would put his fear in their hearts that they should never depart from him and that he would plant them assuredly with his whole heart and with his whole Soul and yet them you bring in as no Disciples In your sixth page you say Infan●● in the Cradle are not taught of men therfore not of God As if Gods power sailed in inward teaching when mans faile in outward Secondly You say if they were all taught of God then they should be all saved Answ So you confesse with me that they are saved if they dye in their Infancy but if after their Infancy they should live and prove bad yet in the time of their Infancy we are to judge charitably and so you are fain to do with them whom yee dip who afterward prove stark naught Therfore where the Lord promiseth that all shall be taught Infants must be understood otherwise yee shall leave out a great many of all the Children for many dye in their Infancy and are never afterward taught therfore their teaching must be in their Infancy or else never and if so how shall the promise be true All shall be taught But say you in the seventh Page Why do you teach them to be converted when they come to age We answer The work of Conversion is the work of a mans whole life After Peter had been converted Christ said to him When thou art hereafter converted strengthen thy Brethren Turn your selves and live is a Text that may be preached to the best Convert so long as he lives but then if men become naught say you After they have been taught of God There will be a falling a way from Grace We answer When we say Infants are taught of God we mean the elect Infants who are all taught of God sooner or latter but because we cannot search into God secrets absolutely to determine who are elect and who not we are charitably to judge the best of all the Infants of Gods people and if any afterward prove bad it is but a mistake in our Judgment and no change in Gods Election and yet according to that outward judgment we are to proceed for when in John 15. v. 2. our Saviour saith Every branch in him that bringeth not forth good fruit is out down and cast in the sire He speaks of Branches that