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A75419 An answer to Doctor Chamberlaines scandalous and faslse [sic] papers. Philalethes. 1649 (1649) Wing A3357; Thomason E605_5; Thomason E597_3; ESTC R205847 5,306 8

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desire of resolution of the sprinkling of infants Doctor Gouge should return answer the question was weighty he would take advise in it when your own letter ready to be shewen to any that desires it hath not one tittle that can possibly bear any such sence but plainly required leave to speak to us in publike or that it might be a question between him and you in a full auditory whether the sprinkling of infants were of God or man and to this to the busines of disputation he returned that answer knowing how little such disputes hath profited how much the Church of God hath been torn by them how express the spirit of God is not to trouble the weak with vain disputes what became of the late dispute betwixt Mr. Goodwin and Mr. Simpson or what one single person of either of both opinions was brought to the knowledge of the trueth though managed by men of far greater abilities then Dr. Chamberlaine t is certain many mens spirits are more imbittred by it and greater distance between them and their members then before to take no notice of the non-sence in the rest of the letter what a strange pride of heart if it be not a fault in his head doth that challenge shew when Dr. Gouge Mr. Case Mr. Calamy Mr. Marshal Mr. Goodwin nay and the whole assembly are foolishly or childishly dared into the contest all serious men and sober Christians must pity you as a man distemperd in mind or laugh at you for your vanity ther 's good counsell in the proverbs which I believe these wise Godly learned men will make use of in this case but al this while why come you not to D. Gouge with a friend as you are offerd when certainly you may have ful satisfaction in that or any other thing you desire we cannot but beleeve that 's not desired otherwise you would have come to him at first before you troubled your self in Print or at least you would have come now invited t is possibly you may believe amisse in what you hold about sprinkling infants very wise godly men have and you your self in other things even in your own profession as I may have occasion to shew if ye continue troublesome and then a private sair debate were best to your self you know what the wise man saith Prov. 14. 33 13. 16. and in your own art he that should set forth himself with such high flown bragging language proclaming to the world what knowledge rare secrets he hath got strange cures he can do would be counted an Empyrick a mountebanke an impostor and few wise men would have to do with such a one me thinks the respect due to Dr. Gouges yeers his piety his learning might have kept you from these uncivil unchristian declamations vain idle suggestions weak and foolish insinuations what is the 21. 25. of Matthew pertinent in this case or to your purpose the priests there came to ensnare our Saviour Christ with this question by what authority dost thou these things who knowing their hearts and their wicked designe interrogates them thus the baptism of John whether was it of heaven or of men Dr. Chamberlaine Craves leave to vent his unsound opinion concerning Baptisme in Dr. Gouge his congregation in one paper and a resolution to this question whether is the sprinkling of infants an ordinance of God or Man in another Dr. Gouge returns answer to the first that he will advise on it to the second that if he please to come to him he will endeavour to give him satisfaction what can that text make for you unless you think the Doctor fears you as the text saith the Priests did the multitude certainly Sir you are not so terrible yet and I believe you will not be much higher neither but because I believe you will hardly finde leasure to come to Dr. Gouge knowing that tumults and branglings must be your best weapons which you will want if you come single or accompanied with a few consider seriously of these following arguments for baptizing infants letting sprinkling alone till I have more leasure Whomsoever Jesus Christ willeth to be brought to himself must not be kept from Baptisme but Jesus Christ willeth little children to be brought to himself therefore little children must not be kept from Baptisme The Major is undeniable the Minor is clear from Matt. 19. 14. Mark 10. 14. Luke 18. 15. 16. To whomsoever the kingdom of heaven and the covenant of grace belongeth to them the seals of the Covenant belonged but the kingdom of heaven and Covenant of grace belong unto infants Ergo. The Major is not to be denied the Minor is proved Gen. 17. 7 Acts. 2. 39. These good old arguments I could never see solidly confuted yet But I will end all with a word or two of advise to entreate you to reflect seriously upon your own heart and consider whether some corrupt interest have not steered you in the busines whether the Scripture gives any allowance for such a kinde of deportment for a man in your station towards such an ancient reverend Pious Minister whether your misimploying so many for the spreading your pamphlets on the Sabbath day be according to the rule of Gods word whether your disturbing us attending the ordinances of Jesus Christ your imprudence following us to the very Sacrament can at all suite with the profession of a Christian or a sober man if they do not as certainly you must needs judge if you be true to your self take shame to your self and give God the glory in an humble Christian confession of and repentance for this your foul offence and lastly think sadly upon the heavy judgments God hath very lately laid upon some of your predecessors to instance but in two for I wil not stirr in the puddle of the anabaptists of Munster the til then unheard of impieties of whom much troubled those parts of Germany and interrupted the reformation begun by Luther to look no further then yesterday upon some that very lately trode your steps the first shall be Mr. Cops a man that for a long time pretended both to learning reason and Religion and for some time as I am from very good hands informed walked very strictly til he first fell off from submitting to Church Government after which he suddainly passd through all the forms now in fashion to yours to the holding those Anabaptistical opinions wherewith you and your predecessors have wherever you have had power never been quiet till you turned both Church and State into a flame if not into ashes but he stayed not long with you neither but the next step brought him into that deep Abyss from whence he vomits out in print to the world those horrid blasphemies and impieties then which the world never saw more desperate maintainning swearing uncleannesse in terminis to be lawfull besides other positions which no modest Christian care can without astonishment hear or read The other is the late matron of the Savoy whom the hand of justice in some measure met with lately she likewise not long since walked under the same dispensation with you the Spirit of giddinesse possessing her she as suddainly as the former ran greedily into all manner of uncleannesse and became hardened through the deceitfulnes of sin never rested till she became a hissing and a by-word even to the meanest of the people Certainly Sir you have no promise of support longer then you walk in Gods way which as certainly you are out of at present if you and your actions be brought to the ballance of the sanctuary how sad your condition will be if it should please God to leave you to your self the former presidents with many more then I have leasure or desire to instance in may in some measure make evident it concerneth you as much as your eternal welfare is worth to be true to your own heart not to trifle away your precious time in vain wrangling and disputations but to make appear to the world the hope that is in you by a sober godly life and conversation to direct to you which you have a sure word of prophecie to which you wil do wel if you take heed Philalethes FINIS