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sinfulness_n of_o their_o schism_n and_o unchristianing_n all_o the_o church_n and_o indeed_o he_o seem_v to_o think_v that_o though_o baptism_n be_v among_o they_o yet_o hardly_o salvation_n and_o his_o argument_n though_o i_o think_v we_o must_v abate_v for_o man_n passion_n and_o temptation_n be_v worth_a the_o separatist_n consideration_n that_o baptism_n that_o destroy_v remit_v he_o call_v it_o not_o sin_n be_v not_o save_v that_o which_o be_v without_o love_n remit_v not_o sin_n but_o schismatic_n say_v he_o have_v not_o love_v for_o nulli_fw-la schismata_fw-la facerent_fw-la si_fw-la fraterno_fw-la odio_fw-la non_fw-la excaecarentur_fw-la anon_o est_fw-la in_o schismate_fw-la odium_fw-la fraternum_fw-la quis_fw-la hoc_fw-la dixerit_fw-la cu_z &_o origo_fw-la &_o pertinacia_fw-la schismatis_fw-la nulla_fw-la sit_fw-la alia_fw-la nisi_fw-la odium_fw-la fraternum_fw-la that_o be_v none_o will_v make_v schism_n if_o they_o be_v not_o blind_v by_o the_o hatred_n of_o their_o brethren_n be_v there_o not_o the_o hatred_n of_o brethren_n in_o schism_n what_o man_n will_v say_v so_o whenas_o both_o the_o rise_n and_o the_o pertinacie_n of_o schism_n be_v no_o other_o than_o the_o hatred_n of_o brethren_n but_o blind_a zeal_n will_v not_o let_v man_n know_v their_o own_o hatred_n when_o yet_o they_o defame_v their_o brethren_n as_o no_o brethren_n and_o endeavour_v to_o have_v all_o other_o think_v they_o so_o bad_a as_o not_o to_o be_v communicate_v with_o and_o separate_v from_o they_o on_o that_o account_n §_o 13._o the_o main_a subject_n of_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o these_o seven_o book_n of_o austin_n be_v to_o answer_v the_o donatist_n claim_v of_o cyprian_a and_o his_o carthage_n council_n as_o on_o their_o side_n and_o to_o answer_v all_o the_o say_n of_o he_o and_o the_o several_a bishop_n of_o that_o council_n the_o plain_a truth_n be_v this_o in_o the_o first_o age_n the_o church_n be_v so_o sober_a and_o charitable_a as_o not_o to_o account_v every_o err_a brother_n and_o party_n heretic_n but_o such_o as_o subvert_v the_o essential_o of_o religion_n and_o some_o of_o these_o corrupt_a the_o very_a form_n of_o baptism_n the_o baptism_n of_o these_o the_o church_n take_v for_o null_n and_o baptize_v such_o as_o they_o pretend_v to_o have_v baptize_v cyprian_a and_o the_o other_o african_a bishop_n know_v this_o and_o be_v much_o trouble_v with_o heretical_a church_n about_o they_o stretch_v this_o too_o far_o and_o rebaptise_v they_o that_o such_o heretic_n baptize_v as_o do_v not_o change_v the_o form_n of_o baptism_n but_o incorporate_v man_n into_o their_o corrupt_a society_n the_o donatist_n take_v advantage_n by_o this_o example_n and_o all_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o council_n to_o go_v so_o much_o further_a as_o to_o take_v the_o catholic_n for_o heretic_n or_o unlawful_a church_n and_o rebaptize_v those_o that_o they_o baptize_v austin_n answer_v all_o the_o council_n reason_n but_o praise_v cyprian_a as_o a_o holy_a martyr_n and_o no_o heretic_n though_o mistake_v §_o 14._o and_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o for_o i_o to_o say_v that_o all_o these_o book_n of_o austin_n have_v not_o a_o word_n of_o what_o he_o speak_v as_o controvert_v infant-baptism_n with_o the_o donatist_n but_o moreover_o he_o bring_v the_o donatists_n agreement_n with_o the_o catholic_n in_o the_o point_n of_o infant-baptism_n as_o a_o medium_n in_o his_o argue_v against_o they_o lib._n 4._o c._n 23._o show_v how_o much_o baptism_n avail_v in_o that_o christ_n himself_o will_v be_v baptize_v by_o a_o servant_n and_o infant_n that_o can_v themselves_o believe_v be_v baptize_v quod_fw-la traditum_fw-la tenet_fw-la universitas_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la cum_fw-la parvuli_fw-la infant_n baptizantur_fw-la qui_fw-la nondum_fw-la possunt_fw-la cord_n credere_fw-la ad_fw-la justitiam_fw-la &_o ore_fw-la confiteri_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la quod_fw-la latro_fw-la potuit_fw-la quinetiam_fw-la flendo_fw-la &_o vagiendo_fw-la cum_fw-la in_o 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they_o have_v will_v that_o prove_v that_o the_o novatian_o be_v seven_o hundred_o or_o eight_o hundred_o year_n before_o §_o 29._o next_o he_o cit_v as_o cassander_n reason_n against_o he_o that_o the_o donatist_n be_v for_o infant-baptism_n the_o six_o council_n of_o carthage_n say_v that_o all_o that_o return_v from_o the_o donatist_n shall_v be_v receive_v into_o the_o catholic_n church_n without_o rebaptisation_n though_o baptize_v in_o infancy_n and_o say_v it_o be_v but_o a_o supposition_n at_o best_a that_o they_o may_v be_v baptize_v in_o infancy_n or_o they_o may_v not_o and_o can_v signify_v nothing_o against_o all_o the_o former_a evidence_n and_o be_v it_o not_o shame_n and_o pity_n that_o so_o public_a matter_n of_o fact_n must_v be_v handle_v at_o this_o rate_n what_o be_v his_o former_a evidence_n but_o such_o as_o humane_a nature_n may_v blush_v at_o to_o find_v that_o one_o call_v a_o man_n and_o a_o christian_a and_o too_o good_a for_o the_o communion_n of_o such_o 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the_o asian_a legion_n or_o who_o else_o be_v not_o know_v and_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o they_o be_v not_o against_o the_o observation_n of_o easter_n for_o both_o they_o and_o the_o scot_n that_o concur_v with_o they_o against_o the_o roman_n do_v strict_o keep_v it_o but_o all_o the_o question_n be_v of_o the_o due_a time_n §_o 31._o nor_o be_v there_o the_o least_o proof_n or_o probability_n that_o they_o be_v against_o infant_n baptism_n 1._o because_o augustine_n the_o monk_n that_o quarrel_v with_o they_o never_o charge_v they_o with_o it_o in_o his_o ep._n to_o gregory_n or_o to_o themselves_o 2._o beda_n that_o be_v downright_o against_o they_o and_o a_o roman_a zealot_n and_o the_o ancient_a writer_n after_o augustine_n time_n and_o live_v in_o the_o same_o country_n with_o they_o and_o know_v they_o and_o describe_v all_o the_o contest_v with_o they_o yet_o never_o lay_v any_o such_o thing_n to_o their_o charge_n when_o yet_o he_o mention_v the_o rebaptise_v of_o one_o by_o bishop_n john_n because_o it_o be_v a_o ignorant_a insufficient_a man_n for_o the_o priesthood_n that_o baptise_a him_z and_o this_o a_o rare_a instance_n 3._o the_o scot_n that_o about_o easter_n and_o other_o contrariety_n to_o the_o roman_n be_v of_o the_o britain_n mind_n and_o refuse_v so_o much_o as_o to_o eat_v with_o the_o roman_n yet_o be_v charge_v with_o no_o such_o thing_n 4._o and_o the_o controversy_n continue_v for_o above_o a_o hundred_o year_n after_o augustine_n time_n and_o great_a stir_n and_o meeting_n and_o dispute_n be_v about_o it_o as_o beda_n tell_v we_o at_o large_a before_o the_o scot_n be_v change_v and_o in_o all_o that_o time_n there_o will_v have_v be_v opportunity_n for_o their_o forward_a adversary_n especial_o wilfrid_n afterward_o st._n boniface_n of_o mentz_n who_o be_v the_o chief_a to_o have_v find_v out_o this_o matter_n of_o accusation_n 5._o none_o of_o the_o historian_n near_o follow_v those_o time_n do_v charge_v any_o such_o thing_n on_o they_o and_o yet_o be_v the_o old_a britain_n against_o infant-baptism_n §_o 32._o but_o to_o put_v all_o out_o of_o doubt_n take_v the_o word_n of_o austin_n to_o they_o in_o his_o three_o demand_n thus_o by_o beda_n record_v eccl._n hist_o li._n 2._o c._n 2._o ut_fw-la pascha_fw-la svo_fw-la tempore_fw-la celebretis_fw-la ut_fw-la ministerium_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la quo_fw-la deo_fw-la renascimur_fw-la juxta_fw-la morem_fw-la romae_fw-la sanctae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la et_fw-la apostolicae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la compleatis_fw-la ut_fw-la genti_fw-la anglorum_fw-la una_fw-la nobiscum_fw-la praedicetis_fw-la verbum_fw-la domini_fw-la that_o be_v 1._o that_o you_o celebrate_v easter_n at_o the_o due_a time_n 2._o that_o you_o complete_a the_o ministry_n of_o baptism_n by_o which_o we_o be_v bear_v again_o to_o god_n according_a to_o the_o fashion_n or_o manner_n of_o the_o holy_a church_n of_o rome_n and_o the_o apostolical_a church_n 3._o that_o you_o preach_v with_o we_o the_o word_n 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other_o and_o what_o say_v they_o baptise_v after_o the_o manner_n of_o rome_n and_o what_o be_v that_o to_o his_o question_n but_o he_o tell_v you_o that_o faâ—â—an_n say_v that_o you_o give_v christendom_n to_o child_n i_o have_v not_o fabian_n to_o examine_v but_o if_o he_o do_v when_o he_o know_v that_o he_o be_v a_o empty_a fâ—llow_n of_o the_o other_o day_n as_o it_o be_v and_o that_o he_o have_v nothing_o but_o what_o come_v from_o gregory_n and_o beda_n and_o that_o in_o they_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n will_v a_o kâ—â—wn_a falsification_n of_o a_o 〈◊〉_d about_o nine_o hundred_o year_n after_o disprove_v the_o yet_o visible_a word_n of_o the_o 〈…〉_z which_o undertake_v to_o give_v you_o not_o only_o the_o seâ—se_n but_o the_o very_a terâ—â—_n §_o 35._o he_o proceed_v to_o prove_v by_o argument_n that_o the_o britain_n be_v against-infant_n baptism_n 1._o because_o they_o
and_o whether_o he_o like_v his_o other_o reason_n quid_fw-la festinat_fw-la innocens_fw-la aetas_fw-la ad_fw-la remissionem_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la and_o whether_o tertullian_n here_o do_v not_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o take_v those_o infant_n that_o be_v baptise_a to_o receive_v thereby_o solemn_a remission_n of_o sin_n if_o they_o have_v any_o sin_n if_o he_o think_v they_o have_v none_o we_o have_v little_a reason_n to_o follow_v his_o opinion_n 8._o whether_o his_o own_o word_n plain_o show_v not_o what_o i_o have_v say_v of_o he_o that_o it_o be_v as_o constantine_n and_o multitude_n delay_v baptism_n for_o fear_v of_o fall_v afterward_o which_o they_o think_v most_o dangerous_a si_fw-la qui_fw-la pondus_fw-la intelligant_fw-la baptismi_fw-la magis_fw-la timebunt_fw-la consecutionem_fw-la quam_fw-la dilationem_fw-la fides_n integra_fw-la secura_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-la salute_v and_o lib._n de_fw-la anima_fw-la tertullian_n say_v apostolos_fw-la ex_fw-la sanctificato_fw-la alterutro_fw-la sexu_fw-la sanctos_fw-la procreari_fw-la ait_fw-la tam_fw-la ex_fw-la seminis_fw-la praerogativa_fw-la quam_fw-la ex_fw-la institutionis_fw-la disciplina_fw-la omnis_fw-la anima_fw-la in_o adam_n censetur_fw-la donec_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la recenseatur_fw-la see_v the_o rest_n there_o for_o infant_n birth_n holiness_n §_o 3._o his_o renew_a reproach_n of_o cyprian_a as_o have_v antichristian_a doctrine_n and_o his_o renew_a question_v whether_o there_o be_v ever_o such_o a_o council_n as_o that_o at_o carthage_n mention_v be_v thing_n so_o audacious_a and_o gross_a that_o they_o need_v no_o further_o answer_v pag._n 90._o §_o 4._o and_o his_o citation_n of_o austin_n pag._n 94._o that_o which_o have_v not_o be_v institute_v in_o council_n etc._n etc._n be_v nothing_o against_o this_o authority_n or_o to_o disprove_v its_o apostolical_a traduction_n for_o it_o be_v easy_a for_o he_o to_o see_v 1._o that_o it_o be_v not_o whether_o infant_n shall_v be_v baptise_a that_o 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confident_o as_o if_o they_o have_v indeed_o be_v against_o infant_n baptism_n of_o which_o before_o §_o 6._o pag._n 105._o he_o recite_v his_o false_a story_n of_o berinus_fw-la of_o which_o before_o §_o 7._o pag._n 106._o he_o recite_v his_o falsification_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o apameae_fw-la and_o turn_v we_o for_o his_o proof_n to_o some_o book_n oft_o call_v the_o dutch_a century_n writer_n and_o the_o dutch_a martyrologie_n i_o suppose_v both_o novel_a and_o anabaptist_n author_n and_o he_o may_v as_o well_o turn_v we_o over_o to_o our_o neighbour_n anabaptist_n to_o tell_v we_o what_o be_v write_v in_o the_o ancient_a historian_n and_o doctor_n when_o we_o have_v the_o book_n themselves_o before_o we_o §_o 8._o pag._n 106_o 107._o he_o impenitent_o repeat_v his_o slander_n of_o wickliff_n refer_v we_o to_o his_o prof_n p._n 283_o etc._n etc._n where_o have_v before_o false_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o write_v another_o book_n call_v trialogia_n beside_o his_o dialogue_n when_o it_o be_v the_o same_o book_n that_o be_v call_v trialogus_fw-la in_o the_o m._n s._n and_o dialogus_fw-la in_o the_o print_a copy_n as_o he_o may_v see_v by_o many_o citation_n out_o of_o the_o trialogus_fw-la in_o bishop_n usher_n the_o success_n eccles_n which_o be_v all_o in_o the_o dialogus_fw-la he_o tell_v we_o of_o a_o great_a many_o of_o wickliff_n word_n to_o other_o purpose_n and_o can_v bring_v one_o line_n or_o word_n in_o which_o he_o deny_v infant-baptism_n but_o only_o 1._o the_o lie_a accusation_n of_o his_o adversary_n to_o that_o end_n and_o 2._o his_o own_o word_n which_o deny_v two_o popish_a tenant_n 1._o that_o baptism_n save_v all_o ex_fw-la opere_fw-la operato_fw-la when_o he_o prove_v contrary_o of_o young_a and_o old_a that_o where_o grace_n concur_v it_o save_v and_o else_o not_o 2._o that_o infant_n unbaptise_v be_v damn_v which_o in_o charity_n he_o think_v be_v to_o be_v deny_v and_o what_o be_v this_o against_o their_o baptism_n §_o 9_o yea_o wickliff_n 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but_o it_o be_v the_o four_o book_n where_o the_o matter_n be_v handle_v as_o follow_v wickliff_n trialog_n l._n 4._o cap._n 11._o et_fw-la primo_fw-la videamus_fw-la ubi_fw-la baptismus_fw-la in_o evangelio_n stabilitur_fw-la nam_fw-la lege_fw-la mat._n ult_n quomodo_fw-la christus_fw-la mandavit_fw-la suis_fw-la apostolis_n item_fw-la docete_fw-la etc._n etc._n et_fw-la hinc_fw-la philippus_n baptizan_n eunuchum_fw-la act._n 8._o prius_fw-la instruxit_fw-la eum_fw-la in_o fide_fw-la et_fw-la propter_fw-la hanc_fw-la formam_fw-la verborum_fw-la christi_fw-la mat_n ult_n ecclesia_fw-la nostra_fw-la adducit_fw-la fideles_fw-la pro_fw-la infante_n qui_fw-la discretionem_fw-la non_fw-la attigerat_fw-la respondentes_fw-la et_fw-la tale_n compatres_fw-la communiter_fw-la faciunt_fw-la quod_fw-la silij_fw-la svi_fw-la quos_fw-la de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la elevant_fw-la sint_fw-la in_o oratione_fw-la dominica_fw-la et_fw-la symbolo_fw-la instructi_fw-la et_fw-la alii_fw-la qui_fw-la discretionem_fw-la attigerant_fw-la dum_fw-la instruuntur_fw-la in_o fide_fw-la christi_fw-la ante_fw-la suum_fw-la baptismum_fw-la vocantur_fw-la catechumeni_fw-la hoc_fw-la autem_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la est_fw-la tam_fw-la necessarium_fw-la viatori_fw-la quod_fw-la christus_fw-la dicit_fw-la nicodemo_fw-la joh._n 3._o nisi_fw-la quis_fw-la renatus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la ex_fw-la aqua_fw-la etc._n etc._n exit_fw-la tanta_fw-la itaque_fw-la authoritate_fw-la fidei_fw-la scripturae_fw-la sunt_fw-la fideles_fw-la generaliter_fw-la baptizati_fw-la et_fw-la ordinavit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quod_fw-la quaelibet_fw-la persona_fw-la fidelis_fw-la iâ—_n necessitatis_fw-la articulo_fw-la poterit_fw-la baptizari_fw-la nec_fw-la refert_fw-la sive_fw-la immergantur_fw-la semel_fw-la vel_fw-la ter_z sive_z aquae_fw-la super_fw-la capita_fw-la sua_fw-la effundantur_fw-la sed_fw-la faciendum_fw-la est_fw-la secundum_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la loci_fw-la quem_fw-la quis_fw-la incolit_fw-la tam_fw-la in_o uno_fw-la ritu_fw-la legitimo_fw-la quam_fw-la in_o alio_fw-la quia_fw-la certum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la corporalis_fw-la baptizatio_fw-la sive_fw-la lotio_fw-la modicum_fw-la valet_fw-la nisi_fw-la adsit_fw-la lotio_fw-la mentis_fw-la per_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la à _fw-la peccato_fw-la originali_fw-la vel_fw-la actuali_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la enim_fw-la principium_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la fide_fw-la quod_fw-la quicunque_fw-la rite_n baptizatus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la baptismus_fw-la delet_fw-la quodcunque_fw-la peccatum_fw-la invenerit_fw-la in_o homine_fw-la baptizando_fw-la et_fw-la quia_fw-la ad_fw-la delationem_fw-la peccati_fw-la requiritur_fw-la satisfactio_fw-la et_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la fieri_fw-la satisfactio_fw-la pro_fw-la peccato_fw-la nisi_fw-la per_fw-la mortem_fw-la christi_fw-la ideo_fw-la dicit_fw-la apostolus_fw-la rom._n 6._o quicunque_fw-la baptizati_fw-la sumus_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la jesus_n in_o morte_fw-la ejus_fw-la baptizati_fw-la sumus_fw-la alith_n sed_fw-la dic_fw-la rogo_fw-la clarius_fw-la quomodo_fw-la christus_fw-la qui_fw-la tantum_fw-la odivit_fw-la signa_fw-la sensibilia_fw-la tantam_fw-la necessitatem_fw-la salvationis_fw-la posuit_fw-la in_o hujusmodi_fw-la lotione_fw-la videtur_fw-la enim_fw-la derogare_fw-la divinae_fw-la liberalitati_fw-la atque_fw-la potentiae_fw-la quod_fw-la deus_fw-la non_fw-la posset_n intercedere_fw-la toto_fw-la merito_fw-la svo_fw-la atque_fw-la passione_n salvare_fw-la infantem_fw-la vel_fw-la adultum_fw-la fidelem_fw-la nisi_fw-la vetula_fw-la vel_fw-la alio_fw-la viante_fw-la baptizetur_fw-la communiter_fw-la infideli_fw-la similiter_fw-la delato_fw-la infante_n fidelium_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la
ut_fw-la secundum_fw-la christi_fw-la regulam_fw-la baptizetur_fw-la et_fw-la deficiente_fw-la aqua_fw-la vel_fw-la requisitis_fw-la aliis_fw-la stante_fw-la pia_fw-la intention_n totius_fw-la populi_fw-la interim_n mortuo_fw-la naturaliter_fw-la nutu_fw-la dei_fw-la videtur_fw-la grave_n damnationem_fw-la infantis_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la definire_fw-la specialiter_fw-la cum_fw-la nec_fw-la infans_fw-la iste_fw-la nec_fw-la populus_fw-la peccavit_fw-la ut_fw-la taliter_fw-la damnaretur_fw-la vbi_fw-la est_fw-la ergo_fw-la misericors_fw-la liberalitas_fw-la christi_fw-la dei_fw-la si_fw-la talis_fw-la proles_fw-la fidelium_fw-la propter_fw-la illud_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la in_o potestate_fw-la eorum_fw-la damnabitur_fw-la cum_fw-la deus_fw-la secundum_fw-la principia_fw-la theologiae_n communia_fw-la sit_fw-la pronior_fw-la ad_fw-la praemiandum_fw-la homines_fw-la quam_fw-la ad_fw-la dammandum_fw-la et_fw-la specialiter_fw-la merito_fw-la et_fw-la passione_n christi_fw-la 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which_o perfect_v the_o title_n even_o so_o the_o heart-consent_n or_o covenant_v of_o the_o person_n or_o parent_n for_o infant_n do_v lay_v the_o first_o ground_n of_o christian_a right_a which_o be_v solemnize_v and_o perfect_v regular_o by_o baptism_n which_o by_o the_o way_n of_o tradition_n or_o public_a investiture_n do_v take_v away_o all_o guilt_n of_o sin_n sacramental_o regenerate_v and_o save_v and_o make_v we_o child_n of_o god_n member_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o church_n and_o heir_n of_o heaven_n who_o be_v so_o before_o by_o a_o private_a initial_a right_n of_o which_o the_o church_n do_v take_v less_o cognisance_n and_o one_o will_v think_v that_o no_o anabaptist_n shall_v deny_v this_o call_v heresy_n as_o to_o the_o adult_n 5._o he_o next_o add_v from_o wickliff_n they_o be_v fool_n and_o presumptuous_a which_o affirm_v such_o infant_n not_o to_o be_v save_v which_o die_v without_o baptism_n so_o full_a word_n it_o out_o of_o cochleus_n answ_n 1._o false_a still_o 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testimony_n and_o so_o that_o almost_o all_o christian_n in_o the_o world_n be_v no_o christian_n 7._o say_v he_o that_o he_o slight_v the_o authority_n of_o general_n council_n as_o fuller_n out_o of_o cochleus_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o false_a again_o as_o to_o the_o author_n 2._o but_o what_o be_v that_o to_o infant-baptism_n but_o his_o direct_a proof_n be_v out_o of_o waldensis_n say_v that_o wickliff_n say_v that_o child_n be_v not_o sacramental_o to_o be_v baptize_v answ_n 1._o i_o have_v not_o waldensis_n at_o hand_n but_o have_v little_a cause_n to_o believe_v mr._n d._n 2._o and_o fuller_n who_o undertake_v to_o recite_v waldensis_n charge_n have_v not_o a_o word_n of_o any_o such_o sense_n 3._o if_o bitter_a papist_n so_o accuse_v he_o be_v it_o therefore_o true_a judge_n by_o his_o own_o word_n indeed_o wickliff_n hold_v that_o sacramental_a baptism_n save_v none_o young_a or_o old_a without_o the_o baptism_n
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to_o infant-baptism_n never_o blame_v their_o baptism_n itself_o 2._o he_o argue_v against_o confirm_v child_n as_o superfluous_a because_o the_o spirit_n be_v give_v in_o baptism_n itself_o &_o confirmatur_fw-la ex_fw-la hoc_fw-la quod_fw-la baptizatos_fw-la nostros_fw-la dicimus_fw-la regulariter_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la accipere_fw-la eo_fw-la ipso_fw-la quo_fw-la legitime_fw-la baptizantur_fw-la that_o be_v and_o it_o be_v hence_o confirm_v in_o that_o we_o say_v that_o our_o baptize_v one_o do_v regular_o receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o that_o or_o by_o that_o very_a thing_n that_o they_o be_v lawful_o baptize_v and_o he_o have_v before_o say_v that_o they_o be_v offer_v to_o baptism_n in_o the_o church_n according_a to_o christ_n rule_n §_o 11._o after_o all_o this_o mr._n d._n add_v wickliffs_n opinion_n against_o popery_n to_o the_o number_n of_o 29._o but_o what_o all_o this_o be_v to_o the_o case_n of_o infant-baptism_n what_o man_n beside_o himself_o can_v tell_v but_o let_v i_o tell_v he_o that_o i_o will_v not_o have_v he_o too_o easy_o believe_v bitter_a adversary_n papist_n lest_o he_o forfeit_v the_o little_a relic_n of_o his_o own_o credit_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o like_a that_o wickliff_n be_v against_o enjoin_v the_o lords-prayer_n as_o he_o cit_v yea_o i_o will_v not_o have_v mr._n d._n come_v so_o near_o the_o papist_n yet_o as_o wickliff_n do_v how_o do_v he_o like_o such_o word_n as_o these_o trialog_n li._n 4._o c._n 22._o fol._n 138._o et_fw-la talis_fw-la est_fw-la triplex_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la scilicet_fw-la militans_fw-la dormiens_fw-la &_o triumphans_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dormiens_fw-la est_fw-la praedestinati_fw-la in_o purgatorio_fw-la patientes_fw-la that_o be_v there_o be_v such_o a_o threefold_a church_n the_o militant_a church_n the_o sleep_a church_n the_o triumphant_a church_n the_o sleep_a church_n be_v the_o predestinate_a suffering_n in_o purgatory_n and_o lib._n 2._o c._n 10._o see_v what_o he_o say_v of_o angel_n and_o adoration_n of_o they_o and_o c._n 11._o of_o angel_n office_n and_o their_o be_v virtual_o every_o where_o and_o what_o he_o say_v of_o king_n and_o matrimony_n quod_fw-la excedit_fw-la alia_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la etc._n etc._n li._n 4._o c._n 19_o 20._o fol._n 132_o 133._o nor_o will_v i_o say_v that_o omne_fw-la quae_fw-la eveniunt_fw-la de_fw-la necessitate_v eveniunt_fw-la as_o fol._n 120._o a._n or_o that_o deus_fw-la potest_fw-la esse_fw-la asinus_fw-la si_fw-la velit_fw-la ut_fw-la fol._n 90._o b._n one_o of_o the_o worst_a thing_n i_o like_v in_o wickliff_n be_v that_o he_o plunge_v himself_o into_o the_o deep_a school-subtlety_n or_o difficulty_n with_o less_o subtlety_n or_o diligence_n than_o the_o case_n require_v and_o than_o schoolman_n use_v and_o indeed_o i_o like_v not_o divers_a of_o his_o conclusion_n as_o lib._n 2._o c._n 14._o fol._n 41._o quod_fw-la deus_fw-la necessitat_fw-la creaturas_fw-la singulas_fw-la activas_fw-la ad_fw-la quemlibet_fw-la actum_fw-la suum_fw-la it_o be_v suppose_v that_o hobbs_n by_o the_o same_o doctrine_n overthrow_v all_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o i_o believe_v that_o his_o doctrine_n there_o fol._n 41._o and_o elsewhere_o for_o merit_n and_o how_o temporale_fw-la sit_fw-la causa_fw-la praedestinationis_fw-la aeternae_fw-la will_v displease_v some_o and_o his_o distinction_n of_o mortal_a and_o venial_a sin_n as_o li._n 3._o c._n 5._o fol._n 52._o and_o that_o he_o make_v final_a impenitence_n the_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o that_o none_o can_v know_v what_o sin_n be_v mortal_a in_o we_o and_o what_o not_o and_o cap._n 6._o concedi_fw-la potest_fw-la quod_fw-la multi_fw-la praesciti_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o gratia_fw-la secundum_fw-la praesentem_fw-la justitiam_fw-la it_o may_v be_v grant_v that_o many_o reprobate_n be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o grace_n according_a to_o their_o present_a righteousness_n praesciti_fw-la autem_fw-la nunquam_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o gratia_fw-la finalis_fw-la perseverantiae_fw-la the_o reprobate_n be_v never_o in_o the_o grace_n of_o final_a perseverance_n so_o that_o he_o hold_v that_o present_a true_a grace_n be_v lose_v by_o some_o as_o austin_n do_v which_o he_o explain_v cap._n 7._o and_o cap._n 8._o again_o he_o be_v at_o his_o omnia_fw-la eveniunt_fw-la necessitate_v absoluta_fw-la review_v what_o he_o have_v say_v and_o conclude_v that_o no_o man_n can_v do_v better_a than_o he_o do_v but_o he_o can_v if_o god_n will_v and_o deny_v not_o sin_n to_o be_v hereby_o necessitate_v etc._n etc._n §_o 12._o pag._n 115._o he_o again_o impenitent_o renew_v his_o slander_n of_o berengarius_fw-la as_o be_v against_o infant-baptism_n concern_v who_o say_v usher_n de_fw-fr success_n eccles_n cap._n 7._o p._n 207._o author_n actorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o author_n of_o the_o act_n of_o bruno_n find_v in_o the_o library_n of_o the_o noble_a baron_fw-fr carew_n of_o clopton_n who_o say_v he_o be_v at_o this_o 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of_o canterbury_n answer_v at_o large_a in_o his_o book_n call_v scintillaris_n and_o as_o to_o that_o of_o deny_v infant-baptism_n he_o answer_v by_o say_v he_o do_v thereby_o oppose_v the_o general_a doctrine_n and_o universal_a consent_n of_o the_o church_n answ_n 1._o i_o have_v not_o the_o magdeb._n at_o hand_n but_o he_o have_v little_a to_o do_v that_o will_v ask_v illyricus_n and_o gallus_n and_o amsdorfius_n what_o lanfrank_n write_v if_o he_o have_v his_o book_n before_o he_o the_o publisher_n of_o lanfrank_n book_n against_o berengarius_fw-la give_v we_o notice_n of_o no_o other_o trithemius_n de_fw-fr script_n eccles_n know_v of_o no_o other_o but_o this_o which_o be_v in_o bibl._n patr._n tom._n 6._o p._n 190._o and_o i_o have_v look_v over_o every_o line_n of_o it_o such_o labour_n do_v these_o man_n put_v we_o to_o and_o i_o find_v not_o one_o word_n where_o any_o such_o thing_n be_v mention_v by_o lanfrank_n but_o only_o his_o accusation_n of_o ber._n about_o 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to_o marry_v 9_o for_o the_o resurrection_n and_o so_o on_o and_o be_v these_o waldenses_n and_o this_o man_n to_o he_o believe_v of_o they_o too_o §_o 20._o ermingendus_n another_o great_a writer_n be_v his_o next_o proof_n answ_n this_o ermingardus_n alias_o ermengandus_n we_o pardon_v he_o the_o misname_a write_v against_o heretic_n that_o hold_v 1._o that_o a_o evil_a god_n make_v the_o world_n 2._o that_o there_o be_v two_o god_n a_o good_a and_o a_o malignant_a 3._o that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o true_a god_n that_o give_v moses_n the_o law_n 4._o that_o moses_n be_v a_o magician_n 5._o that_o marriage_n be_v unlawful_a and_o so_o on_o as_o the_o rest_n even_o to_o the_o denial_n of_o the_o resurrection_n and_o about_o baptism_n cap._n 12._o pag._n 1249._o bibl._n pat._n to._n 4._o part._n 1._o that_o baptism_n profit_v neither_o young_a nor_o old_a without_o the_o imposition_n of_o their_o hand_n be_v this_o a_o good_a witness_n that_o the_o waldenses_n be_v against_o 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leonist_n opinion_n of_o which_o twenty_o be_v against_o the_o papal_a government_n then_o he_o say_v they_o damn_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o church_n and_o here_o come_v in_o the_o word_n cite_v by_o mr._n d._n where_o note_n 1._o that_o he_o make_v they_o say_v that_o catechism_n be_v nothing_o 2._o item_n quod_fw-la ablutio_fw-la quae_fw-la datur_fw-la infantibus_fw-la nihil_fw-la profit_n that_o the_o wash_n which_o be_v give_v to_o infant_n profit_v not_o 3._o that_o the_o godfather_n understand_v not_o what_o they_o shall_v answer_v to_o the_o priest_n 4._o that_o they_o reject_v exorcism_n and_o the_o benediction_n of_o baptism_n that_o a_o priest_n in_o mortal_a sin_n may_v not_o consecrate_v the_o sacrament_n etc._n etc._n and_o let_v the_o reader_n note_n that_o the_o popish_a doctrine_n than_o be_v that_o all_o baptise_a infant_n be_v certain_o save_v because_o baptise_a how_o wicked_a soever_o the_o parent_n priest_n and_o godfather_n be_v and_o that_o all_o these_o 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be_v say_v i_o shall_v say_v no_o more_o because_o i_o will_v not_o stand_v on_o thing_n so_o much_o question_v m._n t._n this_o tedious_a discourse_n of_o mr._n b._n be_v indeed_o serpentine_a reply_v they_o that_o need_v a_o reply_n to_o any_o thing_n here_o say_v shall_v have_v none_o from_o i_o sect_n xlix_o r.b._n i_o come_v next_o to_o prove_v from_o other_o part_n of_o scripture_n that_o the_o fundamental_a promise_n of_o grace_n be_v thus_o to_o be_v interpret_v as_o include_v infant_n 1._o if_o the_o same_o covenant_n of_o grace_n when_o it_o be_v more_o full_o and_o clear_o open_v do_v express_o comprehend_v infant_n as_o to_o be_v church-member_n then_o be_v this_o fundamental_a promise_n so_o to_o be_v understand_v or_o then_o do_v this_o also_o comprehend_v they_o but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v certain_a therefore_o so_o be_v the_o consequent_a the_o antecedent_n i_o prove_v from_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n make_v to_o abraham_n the_o father_n of_o the_o faithful_a which_o comprehend_v infant_n for_o church-member_n the_o covenant_n make_v with_o abraham_n comprehend_v infant_n be_v the_o same_o with_o this_o in_o gen._n 3._o but_o in_o some_o thing_n clearly_o open_v which_o be_v prove_v thus_o both_o these_o be_v the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o free_a justification_n by_o faith_n in_o the_o redeemer_n therefore_o they_o be_v the_o same_o for_o there_o be_v but_o one_o such_o if_o abraham_n have_v some_o special_a promise_n additional_a to_o the_o main_a covenant_n that_o make_v not_o the_o covenant_n of_o free_a justification_n by_o faith_n to_o be_v divers_a that_o this_o in_o gen._n 3._o be_v the_o promise_n or_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o free_a justification_n be_v not_o deny_v that_o i_o know_v of_o that_o the_o promise_n to_o abraham_n be_v the_o same_o be_v evident_a from_o