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B08272 Animadversions upon the Antisynodalia americana, a treatise printed in old England; in the name of the dissenting brethren in the synod held at Boston in New England 1662. Tending to clear the elders and churches of New England from those evils and declinings charged upon many of them in the two prefaces before the said book. Together with an answer unto the reasons alledged for the opinion of the dissenters, and a reply to such answers as are given to the arguments of the synod. / by John Allin, pastor of the Church of Christ at Dedham in N. England. Allin, John, 1596-1671. 1664 (1664) Wing A1035; ESTC W19760 64,983 88

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18._o the_o daily_a ordinary_a sacrifice_n and_o the_o more_o solemn_a and_o extraordinary_a be_v for_o the_o whole_a congregation_n leu._n 4.14_o 21._o numb_a 15.24_o 25._o to_o israel_n pertain_v the_o adoption_n the_o glory_n and_o the_o covenant_n and_o the_o give_v of_o the_o law_n and_o the_o service_n of_o god_n and_o the_o promise_n rom._n 94._o and_o how_o do_v the_o lord_n follow_v his_o church_n in_o all_o age_n by_o his_o prophet_n to_o bring_v they_o to_o repentance_n yea_o when_o go_v after_o baal_n to_o reduce_v they_o by_o elijah_n how_o affectionate_o do_v the_o lord_n by_o they_o plead_v with_o his_o people_n jer._n 2._o &_o 3_o micah_n 6._o psal_n 81.8_o etc._n etc._n so_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o other_o ordinance_n be_v give_v to_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o their_o salvation_n 1_o cor._n 12.28_o ephes_n 4.11_o etc._n etc._n and_o discipline_n to_o reduce_v and_o save_v offender_n 2._o consider_v the_o wonderful_a 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