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A93576 The hidden things of Esau brought to light, and reproved in an answer to a book intituled A true relation of a dispute between Francis Fulwood, minister of West Alvington, in the county of Devon, and Thomas Salthouse, as it is said, of the county of Westmerland, before the congregation of them called Quakers, in the house of Henry Pollexpher Esquire, in the said parish of West. Published in the truth's defence, and sent abroad in the world, to pursue the unknown authors imperfect relation. By a follower of the Lamb in the war against the Beast and false prophet, known to the world by the name of Thomas Salthouse. Salthouse, Thomas, 1630-1691. 1657 (1657) Wing S473; Thomason E912_4; ESTC R204852 26,539 40

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to the Lord then the cutting of a Dogs neck Isa 66.3 or offering Swines blood so long as thou art not justified by Faith therefore give over Divining for money and Preaching for hire and let all fl●sh be silent before the Lord for he that exalteth himself will the Lord a base and bring down that no flesh may glory in his presence Fulw. But let me proceed to demand of you satisfaction in one thing Pray how do you prove the Ministers of England preach an other Gospel then Paul preached for that was one of your marks of the false Prophets Answ I own and have union with the Ministers of England and elswhere that declare freely unto others that which they have heard and seen tasted and bandled of the Word of Life 1 John 1.1 which they have received neither of man nor by man but by the revelation of Jesus Christ and I have nothing to say against them But if either thou or any other man in England or an Angel from Heaven preach another Gospel then that which the Apostle preached let him be accursed Fulw. I receive the Gospel from Paul as the Galatians did even from the same writings of Paul Ans Even as Paul said to the Galatians so say I to them who believes thy testimony O foolish people and unwise I who hath bewitched you to believe such a lying spirit or to own such a one for your Minister Is it a like thing that Fra-Fulwood could receive the Gospel from Paul as the Galatians did It s manifest that Paul had preached the Gospel to the Galatians before he wrote that Epistle to them from Rome and the Galatians had also received it before that Epistle was written And these writings are not called the Gospel which he saith he received the Gospel from and if they were he is found but one of them that steal the Word from his neighbor and from another mans writings So it is but death and destruction that speaks of the same and therefore receive no such into your houses neither bid them God speed least you also be partakers with them in their evil deeds for all such filthy dreamers and men of corrupt mindes are sure to have their portion with Jannes and Jambres and their Forefathers and Brethren in iniquity Corah Dathan and Abiram although by this craft they prosper for a while and get much wealth which is but the wages of unrighteousness Fulw. Come come Sir you have told us That what you delivered you have by revelation from Heaven wherein I tell you you blaspheme the Lord you have said to the people That the false Prophets meaning us in the Ministery deny the light that is in all men Ans It is not blasphemy to declare what I have received by revelation from Heaven but it is blasphemy for false Prophets to call themselves Christs Ministers For me to declare against false Prophets as I am moved of the Lord is neither blasphemy nor railing discourse as thou accountest it and in as much as thou deniest the sufficiency of the light to lead to salvation or eternally to condemn thou maist apply it to thy self to be one of those false Prophets that rebels against the light Job 24.13 whose pernitious ways many have followed by reason of whom the way of truth is evil spoken of for thou sayest the light spoken of in the Scripture will be found to be onely common and not saving Here the nature and operation of the light is by thee denied and the Scripture perverted and with the light that never changes art thou comprehended judged and condemned Christ saith John 8.12 I am the light of the world and he that follows me shall not abide in darkness but shall have the light of life And Christs Ministers bear testimony to the same light and this is the condemnation That light is come into the world and men loves darkness rather then light because their deeds are evil For whatsoever is reproved is first made manifest by the light and whatsoever makes manifest is light Ephesians chap. 5. And his light turned to believed in loved and obeyed is sufficient to lead to salvation And for this purpose were Christs Ministers sent forth as sheep among wolves to turn men from the darkness to the light that shined in the darkness which their dark understandings did not comprehend before they heard Preachers that were sent and of this light I am a witness and this is the Message I have to declare That God is light and in him is no darkness at all in him was life and his life was the light of men And this is the true light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world The Law of God also is called a light Prov. 6 23. and the Commandment a Lamp and the Word of God is a Light and a Lanthorn and his Covenant a light as it s written Behold I will keep thee and give thee for a Covenant of the people for a light to the Gentiles that thou mayest be my salvation to the ends of the earth Christ Jesus is this light as it is written Lord now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace according to thy Word for mine eyes have seen thy salvation which thou hast prepared before the face of all people a light to lighten the Gentiles and the glory of thy people Israel and in vain is salvation hoped for from the mountains and from the hills for upon him that is mighty is salvation laid who saith Look unto me and be saved all ye ends of the Earth Fulw. There is no means sufficient to salvation but what Scripture asserts to be so but we do not finde in Scripture that the light is sufficient to convince of sin if improved if it be shew it Answ The grace of God which bringeth salvation hath appeared unto all men and this grace is sufficient 2 Cor. 12.9 And the Scripture declares there is no other name given under Heaven whereby men can be saved 2 Cor. 4.6 but by the name of Jesus who saith I am the light and God who commanded light to shine out of darkness bath also shined into our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ And we have this treasure in Earthen Vessels since it hath pleased the Father to reveal his Son in us unto whom he hath freely made known what is the glory of the Mystery that hath been hid from ages and gene●ations Christ in us the hope of glory 1 Col. 27. in whom is life and this life is our light and this light is within for that which may be known of God is manifest within But this is a mystery to you whose wisdom is earthy and your understandings darkned and unto such is our Gospel hid whose mindes the God of this world hath blinded among whom we have had our conversation in times past But our light is come
and upon his right eye ●ch 11.7 his right arm shall be quite dryed up and his right eye shall be utterly darkned for the Lord is arising in his glorious Majesty to shake terribly the Earth and to bring down the mighty from their seats and to exalt that of low degree The time is come that iniquity shall have an end the Crown shall be removed and the Diadem taken away the thrones of iniquity shall be cast down that the antient of days may sit to whom all judgement is committed the government must be upon his shoulders that he alone may rule and reign even the Captain of our Salvation and Prince of our Peace who is King of Kings and Lord of Lords God over all blessed for ever The flying Angel is gone forth with the Everlasting Gospel ●ev 14. to preach unto all Kinreds Tongues and Languages of the Nations and unto you hath the Call reached that long hath groaned under the dominion and oppression of the Prince of the air the hour cometh and now is in the which the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God and he that heareth shall live Arise and shine for you light is come you that long have slept in the dust of the earth accept of deliverance Come forth of the prison houses shew your selves salvation and strength is come the Kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ the knowledge of the glory of God is arising that shall cover the face of the Earth as the waters cover the Sea Seek not ye the living among the dead for in vain is salvation hoped for or expected from the Mountains or from the Hills it is laid upon him that is mighty even able to save to the uttermost all those that come to the Father by him Therefore cease from man whose breath is in his nostrils and heap not up unto your selves Teachers believe not every spirit but try the spirits for many false Prophets are gone forth into the world in these last days and perilous times But God who at sundry times and divers manners spake to the Fathers by his servants the true Prophets hath in these last days spoken by his Son whom he hath appointed to be heir of all things by whom also he made the world whose day Abraham saw and rejoyced of whom he hath said Let all the Angels of God worship him And if the word spoken by Angels was stedfast and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward how can ye escape who neglect this great salvation O that you knew in this your day the things that belong unto your peace which so long have been hid from your eyes A Prophet hath God raised up unto you like unto Moses and Pastors hath he sent forth according to his own heart rising up early and sitting down late saying Turn ye turn ye why will you die He that hath an ear let him hear this is the day of Zions deliverance the Lord is gathering in the out-casts of Israel and the dispersed from among the Gentiles and out of the heaps of rubbish is he raising up living stones to build unto himself a Spiritual house and other Foundations can no man lay then that which is already laid Jesus Christ the Rock of Ages the same yesterday to day and for ever who is now come a light into the world and whosoever believeth on him shall never be ashamed This is our God we have waited for him who by his own arm hath brought Salvation and plenteous Redemption who came and preached peace to us that sometimes were afar off and hath shined into our hearts by the light of the glorious Gospel and hath made us nigh by the blood of the Everlasting Covenant To whom be glory and honor throughout all ages world without end Amen Tho. Salthouse IF Ja. Godfreys Queries to Geo. Pitt which is added to this Relation had been all answered then F. F. might have expected an answer to his Counter-queries but I shall leave them to him to whom they were directed That if he see any thing worth an answer he may write to it if he be free And seeing they are of so little weight arising onely from a busie minde 1 Tim. 6. I shall take the counsel of such a one as Paul the aged in this particular to shun prophane and vain bablings which genders strife and tends to more ungodliness not doting about questions and strife of words whereof cometh envies evil furmising and perverse disputing with men of corrupt mindes reprobate concerning the Faith and destitute of the truth who do suppose that gain is godliness But to me it is no advantage to fight with Beasts if the dead do not rise neither would I be found as one beating the air or boasting in another mans line or answering a fool in his folly But if any ask a reason of the hope that is in me I am and shall be ready with meekness and fear to give an answer as God gives a mouth and wisdom whose counsel and direction I still wait for And so unto him in weldoing I commit the keeping of my soul as unto a faithful Creator Tho. Salthouse FINIS