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A08846 A full declaration of the faith and ceremonies professed in the dominions of the most illustrious and noble Prince Fredericke, 5. Prince, Elector Palatine published for the benefit and satisfaction of all Gods people ; according to the originall printed in the High Dutch tongue ; translated into English by Iohn Rolte. Rolte, John.; Beard, Thomas, d. 1632. 1614 (1614) STC 19130; ESTC S1329 121,244 211

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luk._n 24.26.46_o and_o yet_o it_o be_v his_o good_a will_n psalm_n 40.8_o the_o heaven_n must_v contain_v christ_n act._n 3.21_o and_o yet_o he_o be_v not_o force_v to_o it_o but_o do_v it_o glad_o joh._n 17.13.24_o so_o judas_n must_v betray_v christ_n and_o yet_o he_o be_v not_o enforce_v to_o it_o to_o betray_v he_o neither_o secret_o nor_o open_o but_o he_o do_v do_v it_o glad_o and_o out_o if_o freewill_n therefore_o he_o be_v also_o right_o punish_v everlasting_o for_o it_o and_o even_o the_o same_o be_v one_o part_n of_o the_o special_a unspeakable_a wisdom_n of_o god_n that_o he_o can_v so_o manage_v his_o government_n that_o he_o also_o with_o those_o creature_n which_o yet_o do_v what_o they_o do_v out_o of_o free_a will_n and_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o nature_n can_v do_v otherwise_o yet_o for_o all_o that_o can_v unfallible_o accomplish_v the_o same_o which_o he_o have_v determine_v to_o have_v accomplish_v by_o they_o doctor_n luther_n say_v thus_o of_o this_o matter_n if_o not_o we_o ourselves_o but_o god_n work_v in_o we_o our_o salvation_n then_o can_v we_o act_v any_o thing_n holy_o before_o such_o time_n as_o he_o be_v there_o do_v we_o frame_v we_o and_o work_v we_o it_o the_o best_a we_o can_v and_o i_o say_v we_o must_v do_v wicked_o not_o that_o we_o be_v enforce_v thereunto_o but_o as_o we_o use_v to_o say_v it_o must_v be_v so_o of_o necessity_n without_o resistance_n and_o yet_o not_o by_o any_o powerful_a compulsion_n and_o force_n that_o be_v when_o a_o man_n have_v not_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n then_o be_v he_o not_o as_o it_o be_v drive_v headlong_o by_o force_n that_o he_o must_v commit_v wickedness_n against_o his_o will_n as_o they_o use_v to_o carry_v a_o thief_n or_o murderer_n to_o the_o gallows_n against_o his_o will_n but_o he_o do_v it_o willing_o and_o glad_o etc._n etc._n that_o be_v here_o by_o we_o call_v a_o must_v or_o must_v be_v of_o necessity_n which_o be_v no●_n subject_a to_o alteration_n etc._n etc._n tom._n 6._o wit._n germ._n fol._n 479_o 480._o also_o we_o know_v well_o that_o judas_n betray_v christ_n wilful_o but_o we_o say_v that_o such_o a_o will_n in_o judas_n be_v certain_o and_o unchangeable_o to_o be_v accomplish_v at_o the_o time_n and_o hour_n as_o god_n have_v determine_v it_o or_o if_o we_o be_v not_o yet_o understand_v then_o must_v we_o make_v a_o difference_n of_o two_o necessity_n one_o necessity_n where_o i_o be_o force_v to_o a_o work_n by_o force_n the_o other_o where_o a_o thing_n must_v come_v to_o pass_v at_o a_o certain_a time_n without_o constraint_n &c_n &c_n he_o that_o now_o hear_v we_o speak_v let_v he_o know_v that_o we_o speak_v of_o the_o last_o and_o not_o of_o the_o first_o that_o be_v we_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o this_o whether_o judas_n be_v willing_o a_o traitor_n or_o against_o his_o will_n but_o whether_o it_o must_v come_v to_o pass_v at_o the_o time_n and_o hour_n which_o god_n have_v determine_v unchangeable_o that_o he_o shall_v betray_v christ_n willing_o fol._n 529._o a._n this_o be_v the_o construction_n of_o we_o and_o doct._n luther_n how_o these_o say_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v that_o nothing_o come_v to_o pass_v unless_o god_n have_v ordain_v it_o that_o it_o shall_v come_v to_o pass_v whether_o it_o be_v good_a or_o evil_n and_o that_o it_o must_v so_o come_v to_o pass_v even_o as_o the_o lord_n have_v determine_v it_o and_o that_o the_o permission_n of_o god_n be_v not_o a_o bare_a and_o empty_a permission_n but_o that_o always_o there_o be_v mingle_v something_o of_o his_o work_n out_o of_o which_o exposition_n we_o hope_v the_o god-fearing_n reader_n have_v understand_v so_o much_o that_o by_o such_o speech_n god_n be_v not_o make_v the_o causer_n of_o sin_n but_o only_o that_o the_o honour_n be_v give_v unto_o he_o that_o he_o be_v the_o almighty_a lord_n of_o heaven_n and_o earth_n without_o who_o will_n no_o creature_n can_v move_v and_o stir_v itself_o and_o that_o he_o also_o suffer_v no_o creature_n otherwise_o to_o move_v and_o stir_v then_o as_o he_o will_v turn_v and_o use_v their_o motion_n to_o a_o good_a end_n though_o it_o be_v otherwise_o evil_o intend_v by_o the_o creature_n as_o it_o be_v speak_v very_o plain_o and_o fine_o make_v difference_n of_o about_o the_o mad_a knave_n who_o sell_v their_o brother_n joseph_n into_o egypt_n you_o think_v evil_a against_o i_o but_o god_n dispose_v it_o to_o good_a that_o he_o may_v bring_v to_o pass_v as_o it_o be_v this_o day_n and_o save_v much_o people_n alive_a gen._n 50.20_o what_o be_v especial_o mean_v by_o that_o word_n provoke_v it_o be_v clear_o expound_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n that_o god_n for_o his_o part_n provoke_v no_o man_n to_o wickedness_n but_o satan_n and_o the_o evil_a lust_n of_o man_n do_v it_o jam._n 1.13.14_o 1._o joh._n 3.8_o but_o while_o god_n use_v this_o mean_n thereto_o when_o he_o will_v punish_v sin_n with_o sin_n that_o he_o deliver_v man_n up_o unto_o satan_n or_o their_o own_o lust_n therefore_o the_o work_n which_o these_o instrument_n accomplish_v be_v not_o only_o ascribe_v to_o the_o instrument_n but_o somewhat_o also_o to_o god_n himself_o as_o the_o often_o mention_a example_n of_o david_n do_v witness_v of_o which_o it_o be_v write_v in_o one_o place_n that_o the_o devil_n stand_v up_o and_o provoke_v david_n to_o number_n israel_n 1._o chron._n 21.1_o and_o in_o another_o place_n it_o stand_v the_o lord_n move_v he_o thereunto_o 2._o sam._n 24.1_o namely_o through_o the_o service_n of_o satan_n for_o all_o thing_n be_v servant_n to_o he_o psalm_n 119.91_o and_o there_o be_v more_o example_n to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o scripture_n which_o do_v say_v that_o god_n do_v
to_o the_o former_a say_v hierome_n pammach_n high_a ad_fw-la pammach_n and_o even_o in_o like_a manner_n be_v it_o with_o the_o seal_a grave_n stone_n though_o it_o can_v be_v show_v that_o christ_n do_v arise_v till_o such_o time_n as_o the_o angel_n have_v roll_v the_o same_o away_o even_o as_o matthew_n express_o write_v that_o he_o roll_v it_o away_o chap._n 28.2_o it_o be_v believe_v also_o say_v doct._n luther_n 460._o tom_n 3._o fol._n 460._o that_o christ_n be_v also_o so_o bear_v of_o his_o mother_n answer_n it_o be_v not_o every_o where_o believe_v and_o there_o be_v no_o necessity_n to_o believe_v it_o for_o it_o be_v not_o write_v any_o where_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n this_o be_v write_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o christ_n be_v conceive_v supernatural_o without_o the_o help_n of_o man_n only_o by_o the_o power_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n but_o that_o he_o shall_v be_v bear_v supernatural_o and_o come_v out_o of_o the_o body_n of_o his_o mother_n be_v close_v that_o stand_v not_o at_o all_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o much_o more_o the_o clear_a contrary_n be_v write_v therein_o for_o the_o law_n be_v express_o refer_v to_o christ_n which_o say_v every_o man_n child_n that_o first_o open_v the_o womb_n shall_v be_v call_v holy_a to_o the_o lord_n luk._n 2.23_o and_o what_o need_v much_o dispute_v christ_n himself_o clear_v it_o luk._n 24.39_o where_o he_o say_v behold_v my_o hand_n and_o my_o foot_n it_o be_v i_o myself_o handle_v i_o and_o see_v for_o a_o spirit_n have_v no_o flesh_n and_o bone_n as_o you_o see_v i_o have_v by_o which_o word_n he_o most_o clear_o show_v that_o the_o second_o manner_n of_o be_v somewhere_o namely_o to_o be_v unseen_a and_o unpalpable_a be_v not_o common_a to_o body_n but_o belong_v to_o the_o spirit_n therefore_o this_o opinion_n that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n shall_v be_v unuisible_a and_o unpalpable_a as_o the_o spirit_n be_v have_v not_o only_o no_o ground_n in_o god_n word_n but_o be_v also_o 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presence_n of_o christ_n together_o in_o many_o thousand_o place_n that_o be_v in_o all_o place_n where_o the_o holy_a supper_n be_v celebrate_v by_o the_o second_o manner_n of_o be_v in_o a_o place_n namely_o as_o the_o create_a spirit_n be_v in_o one_o place_n can_v never_o be_v defend_v and_o maintain_v but_o will_v a_o man_n have_v the_o bodily_a presence_n of_o christ_n alike_o in_o many_o thousand_o place_n then_o must_v he_o also_o of_o necessity_n ascribe_v to_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n the_o three_o manner_n which_o manner_n be_v to_o be_v alike_o whole_o and_o altogether_o in_o all_o place_n now_o doctor_n luther_n confess_v that_o this_o manner_n be_v proper_a to_o god_n only_o tem._n 3._o fol._n 457._o b._n where_o he_o say_v this_o manner_n be_v only_o ascribe_v to_o god_n as_o he_o say_v by_o the_o prophet_n jeremy_n be_o i_o a_o god_n at_o hand_n 23.23.24_o jer._n 23.23.24_o and_o not_o far_o off_o do_v not_o i_o fill_v heaven_n and_o earth_n etc._n etc._n see_v reader_n there_o doctor_n luther_n confess_v and_o prove_v it_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o the_o three_o manner_n of_o be_v namely_o to_o be_v whole_o in_o all_o place_n entire_o belong_v to_o god_n himself_o and_o yet_o nevertheless_o where_o he_o see_v ubiquity_n mark_v reader_n the_o fountain_n of_o ubiquity_n that_o the_o bodily_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o bread_n of_o the_o holy_a supper_n can_v otherwise_o be_v maintain_v by_o he_o he_o let_v the_o heat_n of_o contention_n and_o desire_v of_o the_o victory_n so_o far_o bear_v sway_n that_o he_o add_v against_o the_o present_o forename_a knowledge_n and_o confession_n of_o his_o own_o and_o say_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n have_v also_o the_o three_o manner_n upon_o it_o of_o be_v somewhere_o tom._n 3._o fol._n 459._o 460._o etc._n etc._n and_o clear_a yet_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v every_o where_o tom._n 3._o jen._n fol._n 457._o and_o be_v at_o that_o time_n every_o where_o when_o he_o walk_v upon_o the_o earth_n tom._n 3._o fol._n 354._o 493._o also_o yea_o he_o be_v in_o all_o place_n from_o his_o mother_n womb_n tom._n 3_o fol_z 464._o also_o it_o be_v all_o through_o and_o through_o full_a christ_n even_o according_a to_o the_o manhood_n tom._n 3._o jen._n fol._n 458._o also_o heaven_n and_o earth_n be_v his_o sack_n as_o the_o corn_n fill_v the_o sack_n even_o so_o fill_v he_o every_o thing_n tom._n 2._o wit._n fol._n 115._o b_o spirit_n b_o in_o the_o sermon_n against_o the_o swarm_n spirit_n also_o he_o be_v over_o all_o in_o all_o creature_n so_o that_o i_o can_v find_v he_o in_o stone_n in_o fire_n in_o water_n or_o even_o in_o the_o snare_n as_o he_o be_v certain_o there_o tomis_n note_n this_o sermon_n be_v leave_v out_o in_o the_o jenish_a tomis_n tom._n 2._o wit._n fol._n 96._o b._n yet_o suffer_v he_o not_o himself_o to_o be_v catch_v and_o lay_v hold_v on_o he_o can_v well_o deliver_v himself_o etc._n etc._n tom._n 3_o jen._n fol._n 355._o this_o be_v in_o truth_n 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